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Who's the new captain? - Dooher, Ricey and Cavanagh out.

Is it just my connection but I thought the Cavanagh statement on the BBC was heavily edited to make it sound like a speech by cutting out any questions from an interviewer?

A very dangerous way to deal with interviews!  If it is edited it makes Cavanagh sound much different than in an interview format.

Yes, definitely edited. Fairly repetitive and unnnecessary I thought.

How could it be a nothing story when Stevie comes out and states that those who criticise him 'know nothing about football'. I think McDonnell is being harsh here.

[All Ireland Club Semi Finals]

All Ireland Club Semi Finals     
            
2/5    Crossmaglen    8/1    St Brigids    5/2    Sun    14.15
8/15    Dr Crokes    8/1    Moorefield    7/4    Sun    14.15
                              
NFL Division 1A    
                    
4/7    Fermanagh    8/1    Limerick    7/4    Sun    14.00
                              
Dr McKenna Cup Final     
             
4/11    Tyrone    7/1    Donegal    5/2    Sat    19.30

NHL Division 1A     
                        
10/1    Down    20/1    Clare    1/66    Sun    14.30
1/8    Cork    16/1    Offaly    11/2    Sun    14.30
15/8    Wexford    17/2    Waterford    8/15    Sun    14.30
                              
NHL Division 1B    
                  
1/66    Galway    20/1    Antrim    12/1    Sun    14.30
14/1    Dublin    22/1    Kilkenny    1/100    Sun    14.30
1/3    Tipperary    10/1    Limerick    5/2    Sun    14.30

TYRONE v DONEGAL         
DR McKENNA CUP FINAL       
      
MATCH                            
TYRONE    4/11    
DRAW    7/1    
DONEGAL    5/2         
                                         
                                         
HANDICAP BETTING            
TYRONE -3    4/5         
DONEGAL +3    5/4         
TIE    7/1         
                                               
                                               
DOUBLE RESULT       
      
TYRO  TYRO    4/6    
TYRO  DRAW    18/1    
TYRO  DONE    13/2    
DRAW  TYRO    12/1    
DRAW  DRAW    66/1    
DRAW  DONE    25/1    
DONE  TYRO    7/2    
DONE  DRAW    20/1    
DONE  DONE    5/1    
      
WINNING MARGINS       
TYRONE v DONEGAL       

1-3 PTS                   3/1    5/1
4-6 PTS                   11/4    7/1
7-9 PTS                   7/2    14/1
10-12 PTS                  7/1    25/1
13-15 PTS                  14/1    50/1
16PTS +                   14/1    80/1
      
CROSSMAGLEN v ST BRIGIDS         
ALL IRELAND CLUB SEMI FINAL       
      
MATCH                            
CROSSMAGLEN    2/5         
DRAW    8/1         
ST BRIGIDS    5/2         
                                               
                                               
TO QUALIFY FOR FINAL                  
CROSSMAGLEN    4/11         
ST BRIGIDS    11/5         
           
                                               
                                               
DOUBLE RESULT       
      
CROS  CROS    4/6    
CROS  DRAW    18/1    
CROS  BRIG    6/1    
DRAW  CROS    10/1    
DRAW  DRAW    50/1    
DRAW  BRIG    22/1    
BRIG  CROS    4/1    
BRIG  DRAW    20/1    
BRIG  BRIG    9/2    
      
WINNING MARGINS          
CROSSMAGLEN v ST BRIGIDS    
   
1-3 PTS                   5/2    4/1
4-6 PTS                   9/4    13/2
7-9 PTS                   5/1    20/1
10-12 PTS              10/1    33/1
13-15 PTS              16/1    80/1
16PTS +               14/1    100/1

DR CROKES v MOOREFIELD         
ALL IRELAND CLUB SEMI FINAL       
      
MATCH                            
DR CROKES    8/15    
DRAW    8/1    
MOOREFIELD    7/4         
                                               
                                               
TO QUALIFY FOR FINAL                  
DR CROKES    1/2         
MOOREFIELD    8/5         
                                                     
                                 
DOUBLE RESULT       
      
CROK  CROK    11/10    
CROK  DRAW    18/1    
CROK  MOOR    4/1    
DRAW  CROK    16/1    
DRAW  DRAW    66/1    
DRAW  MOOR    18/1    
MOOR  CROK    5/2    
MOOR  DRAW    20/1    
MOOR  MOOR    4/1    
      
WINNING MARGINS       
DR CROKES v MOOREFIELD    
   
       1-3 PTS                   3/1    9/2
       4-6 PTS                   11/4    13/2
       7-9 PTS                   4/1    18/1
      10-12 PTS                  8/1    33/1
      13-15 PTS                  14/1    50/1
       16PTS +                   12/1    66/1

FERMANAGH v LIMERICK         
NFL DIVISION 1A       
      
MATCH                            
FERMANAGH    4/7    
DRAW    8/1         
LIMERICK    7/4         
                                               
                                               
HANDICAP BETTING                  
FERMANAGH -2    10/11    
LIMERICK +2    10/11         
TIE    13/2         
                                               
                                               
DOUBLE RESULT       
      
FERM  FERM    6/5    
FERM  DRAW    20/1    
FERM  LIME    11/2    
DRAW  FERM    14/1    
DRAW  DRAW    80/1    
DRAW  LIME    16/1    
LIME  FERM    9/2    
LIME  DRAW    18/1    
LIME  LIME    10/3    
      
WINNING MARGINS       
FERMANAGH v LIMERICK       
1-3 PTS                   11/4    7/2
4-6 PTS                   10/3    11/2
7-9 PTS                   13/2    11/1
10-12 PTS              12/1    20/1
13-15 PTS              18/1    33/1
16PTS +                   14/1    40/1

What interested me most about this was the silence from those who criticised McDonnell in the Louth/Armagh thread:

Bennydorano - pretty wasteful and shockingly greedy
holylandsniper - I thought a dreadful game, and slowly over last year or 2 he's getting greedier and greedier, he wouldnt pass to them. far too greedy today
pintsofguinness - Stevie is selfish
Armamike - McDonnell was having a stinker couldn't do a thing right until that.  He was a bit greedy ,  hiis shooting being woeful - most of the shots he took on were very scoreable

I wish the above would grow a backbone.

This is a fabulous thread - http://ourweecountry.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16231&st=135

That page in question deals with that map (and a few of the subsequent pages), but it's worth trawling through all pages from the start.

Could be Distillery's old Grosvenor ground is correct.

No idea of date though I'd guess between 1930-1950?

Rare form, Mac Eoghain. Can't understand why a Moy man would come on and say Moy's Cavanagh has been dropped from the panel.

Sorry, that's what I meant.

(and it's Cavanagh)

I'll say it again. Cavanagh was attempting to distance the players from the County Boards statement in case it hinders them from benefitting from any GPA gains.

Have the GPA ever released how many are actually signed up members? Cavanagh claims that in 5 years of county football, he has only met one player who was not a member.

Sorry for answering my own question - from their site:

Over 1,500 members in 32 counties. - so on average 40-50 members per county

So what has the association achieved?

    * We have survived against the odds and matured into the most powerful, progressive and highest profile players? representative body in Ireland.
    * We have constructively highlighted the plight of inter county players to unprecedented levels, to the extent that the issue of player welfare is to the fore at county conventions on an annual basis.
    * We actively represent and advise players at local level on various issues in disputes with County Boards on an individual or team basis (close involvement with two teams? high profile withdrawal of services)
    * Our innovative recommendations on various matters including commercial activity, competitive structures, discipline, and suspensions have been presented on an ongoing basis to the GAA?s hierarchy.
    * Progressed the issue of player representation and official recognition of the GPA and it?s members.
    * We have had an Actuaries Report commissioned; the first independent scientific evaluation of the costs involved for inter-county players due to their substantial commitment to teams. The results were staggering. Depending on the duration of service, anywhere from ?100,000 to ?150,000 was estimated as the cost of a lengthy inter county career.
    * The GPA has campaigned aggressively for the introduction of government sports grants for Inter County GAA players. This ground braking initiative has been endorsed by the ISC and warmly received by Brian Cowen Minister for Finance. Progress is anticipated within the coming year.
    * We have campaigned successfully on a host of player welfare issues, with the following results:
          o Provision of a stipulated list of playing gear.
          o Provision of adequate meals after training and matches.
          o Increase in mileage rates for travel - as low as 10p in 1999 to 50 cent from January 1st 2004
          o Increase in the number of tickets to players
          o Introduction of two tickets for All Ireland Final for players who have participated in that year?s championship.
          o Provision of passes for players for National League and Club Matches.
    * The association has met the challenge of drug testing and pro-actively assisted players and the Irish Sports Council through an ongoing process of education and dramatic cultural change for the GAAs inter county players. (see www.eirpharm.ie for lists of banned products)
    * The initiation of the GPAs Hurling Redevelopment Initiative for Weaker Counties? in 2003 resulted in formal dialogue with the GAA?s Hurling Redevelopment Committee (HDC). Our policies, if adopted will enhance the profile of our national game amongst the weaker hurling counties.
    * The commercial landscape has changed dramatically, with the GPA leading the charge for rule amendments to facilitate commercial activity by individuals and team units, an area where we have been remarkably successful to date!
    * We have aggressively campaigned to open up the playing gear market and we are encouraged to see two new forces ? Azzurri and Gaelic Gear adding competitiveness, style and glamour to a previously monopolised marketplace.
    * The Players Awards totally surpass any other awards to date within the GAA with the GPA Hurler and Footballer of the Year receiving a brand new car.
    * The GPA?s Gala and Awards Night, with attendances of aprox. 1000, is now established as the best GAA night of the year, an immensely enjoyable occasion for all.

    * Our recent development of the isotonic sports drink in conjunction with C&C Ireland is a landmark arrangement in the history of Irish sport. For the next ten years, for each bottle of Club Energise sold a percentage of profit goes directly to the GPA to fund our ongoing progress. Various projects including scholarships, club and youth development programmes, and our benevolent fund are benefiting from the proceeds of Club Energise. Club Energise has remunerated 115 players since August of 2003 through it?s marketing and scholarship initiative. This brand continues to grow with new products launched earlier this year.

    * The continuation of our scholarship scheme in 2005 in conjunction with Club Energise, brings the total number of recipients to 60 nationwide.
    * The GPA has successfully contested image rights violations for players whereby companies settled out of court for using our members? images without consent. We have progressed the issue of image rights to unprecedented levels in Ireland, hosting a seminar in conjunction with international image rights expert Nic Couchman (Couchman & Harrington Ltd) who has advised David Beckham and Wayne Rooney, amongst others.

    * The association has actively sought on behalf of, and successfully placed members within positions of professional employment.
    * In April 2005 the GPA announced the historical development of 67 ?Official Players GPA Funds? for each county squad in hurling and football.
    * Revamped website ? www.gaelicplayers.com
    * GPA has established our own texting service which provides members with up to the minute information. Members are not charged for this service.
    * The GPA works extensively with a number of charities and fund raising events in various capacities.
    * The GPA continues to provide players on a regular basis for under-age coaching at club level and Summer camps etc.
    * The GPA is to establish regional coaching seminars specific to physical conditioning in conjunction with Dr. Liam Hennessy for club and county trainers with a view to educating those key individuals with proper and effective programmes for all players.
    * The GPA commisssioned the UCD Centre for Sports Studies to conduct the first comprehensive survey of the views of senior inter county Gaelic footballers and hurlers and as a result a report was published which will have wide ranging inplications for future generations of players within the GAA.

Dropped from the panel, or just rested and on the bench?

Mugsy rested too I see.

What a loss to Down GAA particularly and the nation Clarke is.

Windsor Park to the bottom right, labelled 'football ground' I'd love to know what that was/is. The Celtic park on the left is the old Belfast Celtic grounds. Now Park Centre I think.

For the love of God Ziggy, correct that thread title.

Off on a further tangent, I hear Stephen O'Neill is now preaching from the pulpit. A Clonoe mass-goer told me he was hired to lecture the youth of the parish on clean-living.