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#22636
Can you just do it by surname or do you need more detailed insight ?
#22637
Chuck met Jamie and they both agreed Fearon was an a hole
#22638
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 25, 2016, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on May 25, 2016, 03:56:21 PM
Could Mourinho win the CL with United? Of course he could, ffs City nearly got to the final this year. Also, does someone here really believe that Pochettino and Tuchel (evenhad to Google him) are better managers than Mourinho? Seriously deluded if true.
They are more likely to win stuff in the future. Is Murray better than Federer?
#22639
GAA Discussion / Re: London v Mayo 29th May
May 25, 2016, 04:45:55 PM
Quote from: Mayo Club 51 on May 23, 2016, 03:41:24 PM
We've gathered up some information for any travelling fans to London this weekend.

http://mayoclub51.com/london-calling/

If anyone knows of any other events happening over the weekend, let us know and we'll add it in
Great stuff you put together
you really deserve the all Ireland at this stage
#22640
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 25, 2016, 02:50:10 PM
Quote from: stew on May 25, 2016, 02:35:12 PM
Quote from: seafoid on May 25, 2016, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
Its funny how some clubs fancy winning the CL over winning their domestic league first....
the CL is a money racket. Man U has been conspicuous by its absence from the tournament.

Really? How many tines have they missed out since its inception?

A lit if excellent clubs have missed out a lot more than united, why the fixation on them?
It is not a club, Stew. It is more than that. It is the theatre of dreams. 
#22641
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 25, 2016, 01:59:37 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 25, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
Its funny how some clubs fancy winning the CL over winning their domestic league first....
the CL is a money racket. Man U has been conspicuous by its absence from the tournament.
#22642
They could play league finals in Belfast. Why not?
38k would suit more than CP does.
#22643
GAA Discussion / Re: Joe McDonagh
May 25, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-joe-mcdonagh-was-ideal-face-of-modern-gaa-1.2659394

Joe McDonagh was laid to rest in Rahoon Cemetery yesterday. His death last Friday came as a shock to many, who weren't aware that he had been unwell and particularly because he was just 62.

There was also the eerie coincidence that saw the death of his predecessor as GAA president Jack Boothman less than a fortnight previously.

It may have been a statistical detail but it was also apt that McDonagh led the association into the new millennium more than 16 years ago. He was the youngest president in modern times, elected at 42, and had the further distinction of still being a player – captain of the Ballinderreen junior hurlers – at the time of his election.

The president is the face of the GAA and the demeanour of the office holder will influence, for better or for worse, the public perceptions of the association. It was a role made for McDonagh. He had a cheerful energy and the ability to communicate fluently that was invaluable for the GAA.

His charisma wasn't built on a relentless "look at me" insistence. He was a natural performer – he appeared on stage at An Taibhdhearc in Galway – and was always called on to wrap up annual congress by singing the national anthem.

Like many gifted orators he could go on a bit, which prompted a mordant if affectionate reference to him as "The Guffnor" but typically when told about this some time later, he erupted into laughter.

That typified his quality of being able to articulate high-concept speeches when required but with an underlying sense of mischief that cut through the pieties of official duties and protocol.

He was of course famous for singing The West's Awake after Galway's historic 1980 All-Ireland hurling victory but it could have been a bittersweet moment for someone who had been a mainstay of the county's revival in the 1970s – an All Star, which would be another distinction on the CV of a president – and who had captained the unsuccessful team a year previously but was now an unused replacement.

Exuberant rendition
If Galway had won in 1979, Joe McDonagh would have had the victory platform from which Joe Connolly gave his immortal speech 12 months later. Instead he was game enough to deliver an exuberant rendition of the haunting Connacht anthem.
Being GAA president isn't, however, three years of music and laughter. His initiative in trying to rid the rule book of the ban on British security personnel was controversial.

He bounded on to the podium of the 1998 annual congress and said he would propose the suspension of standing orders in order to debate the deletion of rule 21. After a few years of dithering, the GAA had its collective mind concentrated fairly sharply.

It became clear after walk-outs had been threatened at a lunchtime Central Council meeting that this reforming blitz wasn't going to work. Instead a special congress was fixed for a month later

McDonagh was quietly – and not so quietly – criticised for spooking the horses and neither bringing the Ulster counties with him on the topic nor listening to the more experienced voices in the North, who could have sympathetically advised a more cautious approach.

The history of GAA reform has, however, always involved initial defeat and although the special congress ended in a watery compromise, the rule was gone little more than three years later after the insistence by McDonagh's successor Seán McCague that the association could not be seen to undermine the formation of a new police force, the PSNI.

A less well-known intervention came in 1999 when, on the first trip to Australia of the resumed International Rules series, a racism controversy broke out involving Meath's Graham Geraghty, who had used a profanity along with the word "black" and directed it at an AFL Academy player.

The incident clearly caused commotion during the match with Australian team officials, led by the late Jim Stynes, protesting that such language was absolutely unacceptable.

No one believed Geraghty was a racist but he had, however, heedlessly trod on a landmine in respect of the AFL's attempts to eradicate racist abuse from the game. An attempted cover-up was blown when the Age newspaper spoke to the young player's family, who had emigrated from South Africa, and broke the story.

Much to the disgruntlement of Ireland team manager Colm O'Rourke, who felt Geraghty's apology should be enough, McDonagh in consultation with the GAA management committee insisted on a suspension for the first Test.

He said at the time that he was as much influenced by the message the GAA needed to send to the growing immigrant communities at home as the urgent need to address Australian sensibilities.

Recalling that he had trained a juvenile side in which a black kid was getting racially abused during a match, McDonagh said he would never forget the sense of anger and shame he felt when the player, panicky about the humiliation, pleaded with him not to take the matter further and that he didn't mind the abuse.

Joe McDonagh's death leaves the GAA bereft of the ease and good humour through which he communicated his passions for the language and broader Irish culture. Yet above and beyond all that, he was a decent and humane man, who brought honour to the community he served.
#22644
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 25, 2016, 09:30:28 AM
Does anyone think Maureen can win the CL with the theatre of downsized dreams ?
#22645
There is no orange citadel in armagh anyway. Monaghan can go up there any time they want and beat the team off the pitch.
#22646
If you want to design a great intercounty football team, what would be first on the list?


Dara Ó Sé: If you want to design a great intercounty football team, what would be first on the list?



Football doesn't stand still. You'd have to wonder why people are surprised by the different tactics that come and go in the sport, as if nothing new had ever happened before. Pat Spillane was dropping deep into his defence from the forwards 40 years ago, Jack O'Shea the same. Evolution didn't just fall out of the sky in the last few years.

The requirements for surviving at the top of the intercounty game are different now to what they were even 10 years ago. Imagine sitting down with a blank piece of paper and trying to build a team from scratch. What would you look for?

If you want to understand how football has changed over time, just look at the Tyrone team that beat Derry and compare it to the early Tyrone teams Mickey Harte won All-Irelands with. Look at the body shapes. Look at the fitness levels. Look at what roles players carry out in a game.

I played against Seán Cavanagh in those days. Back then, he had diplomatic immunity from tracking back. Nowadays, he's far more likely to pick up the ball on his own half back line as in the Tyrone attack. He gets back, takes on responsibility for breaking up play like everybody else and then gets forward to be a weapon in front of goals as well.

Running game
So let's take this blank piece of paper and set up our team. What do we need? If you want a starting point for what has changed the game, fitness is absolutely top of the list. I don't think people really understand the levels of fitness needed now. When I played, even the top teams were carrying a couple of players who were fitter than the average member of the public but would be blowing hard in the final quarter. Those guys don't exist now. Not tolerated.
More than ever, it's a running game. The buzzword this year is "transition". Don't be fooled: transition is mostly running. For the best teams, it's running and kicking long at the right time. Either way, you need ridiculous fitness to survive. So at a certain level – top four, top six – that fitness is taken for granted. It's non-negotiable.

The next item on the list is personnel. No point having fit players who won't do what you need them to. I've been in dressing rooms with players who are getting instructions and it was obvious that if you could see into their heads like you could with Homer Simpson, there'd be a monkey riding a bicycle across a tightrope. Maybe the monkey would be whistling to himself.

You can't have that these days. At a certain level, these systems are basic enough. You get men back, you break up play, you attack at pace and you cover for the men who go forward. You'd be surprised how difficult it is to drum that into some guys. It takes putting ego aside and cutting down on individuality. That's no picnic, especially when you're dealing with guys who are the best players in their clubs.

This is not a new problem. I remember playing the Dubs one time in Croke Park and our number one priority for the first 15-20 minutes was to take the sting out of the game, quieten down Hill 16 and basically make it a tight, boring game. Don't give them anything to get excited about. That was our mantra going in.

It all worked fine – for about three minutes. Then, my midfield partner decided to be a hero and go on a big solo run. Nothing wrong with that, except that my man wouldn't have been a noted solo-runner. Basically, he got a rush of blood, ignored the plan, soloed high above his head and presented himself as a nice, juicy target for two Dubs to line up and absolutely poleaxe. The Hill went bananas.

After he peeled himself off the advertising hoardings, he jogged back over towards me with a big confused look on his face. "Jeez, I wasn't expecting that!" he said. I nearly hit him myself.

So you need the right type of people. As for the type of players you need, that's also changing all the time. Let's start at the start. Goalkeepers. You never saw a goalkeeper in white boots. They were never good enough footballers to get away with it. They were solid guys, maybe a bit mad, definitely braver than the rest when it came to throwing themselves in front of the ball.

Packed defences
If you're starting a county team from scratch now, do you even go looking at the club goalkeepers around the county? Or do you do what Cavan have done with Ray Galligan and convert an above-average free-taker into a goalkeeper? I think more and more you will see teams going that way. Thanks to packed defences, being a shot-stopper is well down the list.
I wouldn't swap places with goalkeepers now. The Derry keeper had a nightmare three or four minutes where he couldn't get the ball kicked out. Tyrone kept coming back at him with scores. By the fourth or fifth one, he looked like a golfer who had no idea where his drive was going.

When it comes to defenders, the man-marker isn't as important as he used to be. You look at the corner backs on the top teams: for their clubs they're centre backs or midfielders or half forwards. They're athletes first and foremost, well capable of leading the charge when the turnover comes and comfortable shooting off either foot at the end of a break-out.

I played with corner backs who you wouldn't embarrass by including in the shooting drills. You'd be afraid they'd get cranky and think you were trying to make a fool of them and they'd take it out on your star corner forward in an in-house game the next night. Nowadays, it's a bad performance if you haven't ended a game with a couple of points from the full back line.

Most important player
But again that's the wrong way of saying it. There's no full back line now. There's a marker, maybe two. There's a guy patrolling the D. There are five or six across the 45, numbers irrelevant. There are no wing backs or wing forwards, just wingers. If Jack McCaffrey is up against Donnchadh Walsh or Lee Keegan is playing on Diarmuid Connolly, who's marking who?
Midfielders don't need to be the tallest guys on the team. You need one giant to contest hop-balls but mostly, in the best teams, midfielders won't be called on to catch anything above their heads. Those converted free-takers playing in goal will be hitting them on the chest from 60 yards away (on the rare occasions they haven't gone short to the converted midfielder playing corner back).

The most important player on the team is the link man at centre forward, which is the one position that is still broadly similar to what it used to be. You need a classy player there, a guy who plays constantly on the half-turn, taking possession while running laterally across the half forward line and sending fast, intelligent ball inside.

Upfront you have one strike forward. You're pushing the boat out if you go with two. At least one corner forward puts his head down and sprints back up the field as soon as the referee throws in the ball and the second one usually isn't far behind. It's everyone's responsibility to work back, it's everyone's responsibility to get up and score points of his own.

There's no hiding place either. The oldest GAA tactic in the book – whipping off the corner forward when things go against you – is dying out. Now the manager has his stats team telling him who has made the most tackles, who has been on the ball the most times, who has given away the most fouls. The curly finger goes to the guy who isn't hitting his numbers.

Wrong personnel
When it's good, like it was with Tyrone on Sunday, it looks great. It's exciting to watch. But it all comes back to personnel. Derry were trying to play a similar game but they don't have the personnel. And as for when club teams try it? Forget about it. That's the main reason people complain about this style of football: they see club teams doing it badly and it looks dreadful. Donkeys in derbies.
Personnel is the key. It comes down to another much-used phrase: "buy in". Everyone has to buy into the game plan. No flakes allowed. People wonder why the championship only gets going in August: it's because a lot of teams make allowances for the wrong sort of personnel. Guys who don't fully buy in but are kept on because numbers are tight when it comes to intercounty quality.

The championship now is more ruthless than ever it was at weeding those guys out. The evolution of football has demanded it.
#22647
Quote from: muppet on May 24, 2016, 05:09:30 PM
Quote from: Duine Eile on May 23, 2016, 03:59:42 PM
Im worried about the Mayo game to be honest. I was giving Kevin the benefit of the doubt but the more stories I hear the less confidence I have, 52 players won't join the panel, they can't all be unwilling to give the commitment you'd think.  :-\

Jebus, are you planning to beat us, or invade us?
the invasion as the other way around. There must be upwards of 5000 Mayo people living in Galway now. We should get a few footballers  out of them eventually to add to the local production
#22648
Quote from: T Fearon on May 25, 2016, 06:00:36 AM
At the end of the day,in an era where there was little hope of success,Ger Houlahan forfeited an FAI Cup Final,money and the glamour of playing at Lansdowne Road,to play for Armagh against Fermanagh.Thats probably why he possesses an All Star something that Jamie will never have.

A lad who turns his back on his county,but can defer globetrotting to play in a soccer Junior Cup Final,is despicable.
I'd want to get away from certain fans too if I were him
#22649
GAA Discussion / Re: Thuggery in the GAA
May 24, 2016, 07:28:56 PM
He writes about other sports other than racing .
I think he's on the ball on this issue  . Refs have very little smacht over violence on the pitch
#22650
GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
May 24, 2016, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 24, 2016, 03:00:50 PM
I've softened on Brian Carthy on the radio in fairness. His voice seems synonymous with it at this stage. I still hate the way he goes 'A sideline to Cork, and Cork have the sideline'. And he rarely gives the scores either.

Canning is just a gowl.
Carthy doesn't have the smarts that the likes of Maloney or MoM have. He asked some Oz sportsman in CP if he agreed that hurling was the greatest game in the world. Christ.