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This was my point exactly do not go into detail as to why they were sent off but at least reference that they were, instead KH reported how a PG1 man was black carded but did not reference a red for his own club, why the disparity?

I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned, then you have a situation where a guy can get lambasted but the reporter may not have seen the incident as per the ref's view, and he will certainly not have any access to the referee's report. KH will not have a clue about what the referee has put the guy in for, it might be rough play and a 2nd yellow, but the report might say something completely different.
I refereed LD last week, issued 2 straight reds, KH was there. I'm glad they weren't mentioned because it was a juvenile match, I wouldn't want a kid to read something bad about himself, especially as the reporter, any reporter, might say something different from what actually occurred.

This surprises me Tyrdud "I'm quite happy these incidents don't get mentioned" considering your past experiences?

True, what I meant though was don't get into the particulars of an incident, and just mention "Player X was sent off". It's the "innocent until proven guilty" angle not the "guilty and wrong thing mentioned or wrong perspective put on it" I don't want. And ideally not mentioned at all in juvenile games. We don't know what's going on behind scenes on in kids heads these days.
And for the record, mine was an exceptional circumstance

For once you not knowing what to say or saying nothing may make a change

Red cards, fights and aggression are part of the game and reporting of these incidents can help the reader who may not have had the opportunity to attend a game  to get the full picture of what has gone on and not the pre-watershed version, if it is the mission statement of GAA journalism to sanitise and promote the game in a reporting manner which does not reflect reality then so be it, however I do find it laughable MR2 that you will be the first to have a pop a Country Bumpkin for any bias towards our boys  [

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On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother

I don't know what to say to that, would we want pictures as well? Kevin and the rest will try and be positive rather than having our negative part of the game.

I'm not being funny but what would we get out of it? The ref puts in a report on any issues I don't see how reading about fights in every game will promote people into allowing their kids to play the sport.

I've seen reports that will say in a ill tempered game, that's code for dirty lol..
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On another aspect of this I find it frustrating at the bias reporting on the SG (don't get me wrong, they do a fantastic job covering the games and are an asset to the county), Kevin Herron 'reporting' on the LD v PG1 game last night, does not mention one aspect of aggression barring a black card for a PG1 player with a few mins to go, report the games warts and all Kevin or do not bother

I do not doubt your version of events Barnish, however one part I am struggling with is that someone as cowardly as Lynch would have the b*lls to strike someone twice

MR2, TNN are complete saints sure.

Never said they were.....but by not punishing a player for two punches thrown early on in the game, then the ref allows the game to get out of hand because all players on the pitch see that if one player can get away with it why cant they.

Maybe i am wrong but is striking not a straight red card?

To do it twice right in front of the ref surely merits a red and then the players know to cut out the nonsense.

Course I am not.........................

As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

You aren't from the same club, who do you think you are kidding??

As much as it saddens me to say it we have a real discipline issue in the county with players mouthing off to officials, my own club man has gotten away with it for years but on Saturday he got the lesson intercounty refs will not stand for it and picked up a silly yellow for it and then a justified second yellow

I am in no way justifying the poor performance of the ref on Saturday, however it appears the basics are missing

  their free taker could be busy with frees within 30 yards

anyone heard who is going into full back tomorrow?

Declan Lynch

I did hear NMK had a bit of a chip on his shoulder (not my words, the fruit man's)  the other night doing a bit of mouthing, throwing a ball over the wire when he was unhappy talking cheek to St galls men over the wire

I heard last night Niall McK is talking about appealing his red card from the other night? Am I missing something as from the RC men on here it was clear as day he was striking

I take your point BS, however two things:

1. I have some sympathy for refs in instances like this as they are on their own in league games with no neutral umpires or lines men so can only see so much.

2. I know Niall may get targeted, however, I have seen him in action and he is no angel either 

Our game with St Galls was played in a sporting manner with zero bad feeling or controversy until the incident where Niall Mc Keever got sent off.

He was struck twice by his opponent (with closed fist and then head) before he retaliated by sticking up for himself. When the referee first saw the incident which was off the ball, both were going at it, so referee had no choice, he saw both players striking at that stage.

However....what is a player supposed to do in such a situation? Nialls discipline has been excellent all year, despite being constantly targeted on and off the ball. Referees need to be wise to this. It left a very bad taste with us, and yes, tempers got a bit frayed after that.

Where you not on duty last night MR2 or are you now a ref's assessor?

I believe from what I am hearing the second half was a bit tempestuous, big McKeever sent off? Was it justified or was it the usual for the ref in question to be throwing out cards like he is the production line of Moonpig?

We contested for 30 minutes, that's were we are at, we've kids and if (big if) we can keep them in div 1 or even if the leagues are restructured keep them in a div 1 b league then the work will be done to improve their gameplay.

We need to improve on lots of things, composure on the ball, picking the right pass, confidence, maturity, support play. We've had a pretty lean spell and that's what happens to a lot of clubs. There are no panic buttons being pressed just yet and if we allow Burnsy and Paddy time to get things right it might set us up in a better place.

We've one player from the All Ireland winning team left playing at senior level, if any club had a complete wipe out of its previous senior teams then they will also struggle for a period, especially with no successful winning juveniles coming through.

As for Portglenone, they have an intensity to their game and a pace that for this time of year is pretty good, whether they are gunning for a league title and what happens in the championship as a bonus we won't know until they play Creggan or Cargin with both teams with their full pick available.

Standing on the sidelines gave a different view from being in the middle, Ports warm up was an intense 30 minutes, I'd say they are a bit busted for about 5 ten minutes of a game, but finish strong, could probably go for goals more. Bit more niggle in last nights game from other games I've seen them.

Good break for teams now, no doubt a few will have challenge games lined up

What do we think of Chris Kerr coming back to the County fold? Good to have some experience back in there, however should management maybe have looked at someone like the TNN keeper he made a few good saves in the final last year and believe he is playing well this year in Div 1?

Are Moneyglass in intermediate this year?

I merely realised that no matter how much you engage with some you will never get the better of (their egos) them, everyone knows the truth no need to argue it on here

I find it incredible that he can be so obvious about it and still get sent to ref us in such big games

I think to an extent PJ is correct, I think we should move on and leave out the personal stuff, MR2 can do his talking on the pitch and CB on the SG.

Let's talk football and not personas of the thread

The Road to Damascus is truly wonderful.

I think to an extent PJ is correct, I think we should move on and leave out the personal stuff, MR2 can do his talking on the pitch and CB on the SG.

Let's talk football and not personas of the thread