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Mark Durkan who is getting all the grief at the minute and gave the project the green light is in the SDLP. Likewise plenty of photos on The Casement facebook page of Carál Ní Chuilín with Tim Attwood SDLP at the launch of the project. The only elected representative I know who has made it clear he was dead against this project is Gerry Carrol of People before profit.

The purpose of a planning JR is not for the judge to assess the planning merits of a decision but more so to judge upon whether the planning authority took into account all materials considerations when arriving at their decision. As such Justice Horner has highlighted the issues which were not proporly considered.

The DOE will now have an opportunity to consider those matters and make a new decision. If they properly consider all those matters and arrive at a decision to approve it unlikely that there will any further grounds for review. The residents best hope is that the DOE decide that the information not originally considered sways their opinion on planning merit and that they either seek a reduction or refuse.
This will be the decision of Mark H.

I know which outcome that I would place my money on.

I am no legal expert but you and a few others seem confident this will still happen. If that is the case then surely the residents have been poorly informed. Should they not have been told at an early stage to take the compensation or is this all just some sort of game to try and  squeeze a bit more cash out of the GAA?

So who pays for the JR? Do the residents still get stung for their own costs?

Article in the 'tele' saying the residents will have to pay towards the JR because of the length of time it has taken.

The first 35000 is covered and after that it is from the residents pockets. How much that is I dont know!

The judge has already made it quite clear that capacity for the area is an issue for him so I dont see how a new planning permission with all the i's dotted and t's crossed will make any difference. As noted before also a little concerned that the judge seemed a bit clueless about the GAA. Best to leave Casement altogether, at this rate the whole 77 million will be blown on legal fees.

If its not going to be bigger than 30-32000 then it is pointless. Time to look elsewhere in Belfast unfortunately potential sites are few and far between. Other blogs have looked at Titanic quarter, North foreshore and even the Maze. Cant see Musgrave park being allowed and Im pretty sure the parks in West Belfast are too small

Sports Minister Carál Ní Chuilín has said that the £61.4m of government funding for the stalled Casement Park stadium redevelopment is not in danger of being lost to the project.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/gaelic-games/30524089

Before you all get too excited I seriously doubt the GAA are about to offer money to individual clubs. I still think it will all be ploughed into the one development. The GAA themselves released a strategic plan not so long ago and it definitely involved one quality modern stadium in each province.

Ok here we go Northern Irelands strategic plan

https://secure.irishfa.com/fs/doc/IFA_Strategy_-_Final_proof_19_Nov_2013.pdf

For those who dont want to wade through all the rubbish here is the important bit on page 13

'THE Association has a once in a generation opportunity
to transform its stadia over the next five years.
The £29.2m re-development of Windsor Park into a
state of the art 18,000 seat National Stadium will be
more than a new ground for the national team.
It will be a new home for the Irish FA; a new
conference facility for the city of Belfast; and provide new
social and recreational facilities to local communities.
We hope that its construction symbolises a continuing
confidence in a new Northern Ireland, and in turn
inspires growing confidence and support for our team.
A further £36.2m investment is planned to develop
sub-regional facilities for the benefit of both the
international and domestic game. By improving and
upgrading facilities across Northern Ireland, we will
provide better environments to develop our players and
improve the facilities for fans and supporters who come
to watch the game.
In total, the NI Executive through the Department
of Culture, Arts and Leisure (DCAL) has committed
£61.4 million of capital funding for football stadia and
facilities. The Irish FA is committing a further £4 million
(14% of the total stadium project costs), and we aim to
attract further investment partners both at the new
National Stadium, and for regional facilities.'


'The remainder of the £36.2m allocation will be open
to bids from individual clubs and consortia across
Northern Ireland for community and social cohesion
projects, or to develop their clubs into community
"beacons" with their facilities opened up for use by
local communities, or as part of a social enterprise. '

I think an upgrade of a stadium in Armagh/Tyrone is best, but can't see a brand new stadium being built. When was the last time a GAA stadium was built from scratch? I don't remember any.

Has no one been paying attention to the this the whole way through.

Ziggy said it earlier, this money has been ring fenced for Casement. It cannot and will not be directed to another project anywhere else.

Its Casement of bust I'm afraid.

Incorrect.

The original restrictions still stand, namely that all three sports are to spend the money on one stadium development each.

There have never been any restrictions on whether the stadiums should be refurbishments, greenfield sites, or ties to any given location.

The decision to spend the money on Casement was the GAA's, and the GAA's alone. After receiving (flawed) advice from an unnamed consultancy in 2010 that the site could accommodate a 40k stadium.

The IFA are not ploughing all their money into Windsor. They will have some left over for 'other' projects - likely to be a new Glentoran stadium and a makeover elesewhere. Windsor itself is only costing 31 million

Just out of interest has anyone seen the size of the new proposed Liverpool stand that will affect lots of local residents, it makes casement look like a bungalow. I wonder if that one gets the green light or not, er of course it will.

That new liverpool stand is an ugly as piece of Architecture as I've ever seen! The one decent thing that might emerge from the casement c*ck up is that uncovered section might finally get the boot. I'd love the brains trust to explain that one to me, uncovered seats in Belfast?? Clowns!

Thats GAA design for you. Gaelic grounds was redeveloped a few years back without a roof. Pairc ui Chaoimh is having 70 million thrown at it and the 2 end terraces will barely be touched. The GAA must think this global warming is about to kick in.

Just out of interest has anyone seen the size of the new proposed Liverpool stand that will affect lots of local residents, it makes casement look like a bungalow. I wonder if that one gets the green light or not, er of course it will.

From what i gather today in at work from a person living a street over, the main focus was on 6 houses intitally which i think the GAA tried to buy. 2 would sell, the other 4 were older people who always lived there and were not interested in moving. Some residents think they won the case but the majority in the area accept a stadium of around 30k will probably be built, I think it was down to an issue of right to light and the shadow from the new stadium would have their houses in permanent shade.

In a normal place, where a civic amenity was being built, the city authorities would just CPO the houses, pay a generous fee for them and build the stadium.

The figures quoted that will be wasted if the project doesn't happen is 7 million and rising. That would have bought a fair number of houses in the area

hardstation is paddy heaney talking crap then? about resident getting money?

i seen mark sidebottom on bbc news last night with a document in his hand saying the residents were offered a deal in may 2013 worth just over a million pounds, is this also false?! listen for yourself, link is below!

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/northern-ireland/30479191

Can't listen at the minute but if your description is correct, the residents were offered a pay off in 2013 but didn't take it and continued with Judicial Review. What part of that makes you think that they want a pay off? How can you take anything but the opposite from that?

Couldn't agree on how to divide the money up is what the man said. In fairness the GAA were mad to continue with the plans. Alarm bells should have been ringing at an early stage. Sure even if it was built and they wanted their concerts then it would be more of the Croke Park fun and games everytime there was an event

Well there you have it money, market value of the properties mmm looks like that woman on talkback wasn't talking nonsense after all. 

...but the views and rights of local residents are important whatever the issue...

and the views and rights of the local people who want development?