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They dont want an outsider in

What are you basing that conclusion on?

with every post you illustrate your lack of objectivity - there's a new manager almost every year who delivers all ireland club titles and a multitude of factors in them achieving that. are these all suitable for county management?

now, you never answered the question about other management experience.

Ask the Ballinderry men - sure did they not tell you all about him ? 

You're not Dromintee by any chance ? 

Hardly - what would that have to do with it?

The point here is that you are making this a personal issue and those who don't know brian should butt out, that couldn't be more wrong. i'm judging the man on perormance and obviously the donegal clubs are too.

with every post you illustrate your lack of objectivity - there's a new manager almost every year who delivers all ireland club titles and a multitude of factors in them achieving that. are these all suitable for county management?

now, you never answered the question about other management experience.

Dublin's Cheryl Aherne

Tyrone's Michelle O'Neill

Ciara staunton

Any relation of Cora's ?

sister - you can see the resemblence

Is oldham still playing?

Miceal o'se dominated midfield against cross for vincents. a bit like tyrone though, cross' midfield inferiority doesn't seem to phase them.

Sorry, should have said "all ardboe lads should excuse themselves". in fairness lads, you're hardly offering objective opinions.

i've never met brian mcivor, 'm smply relating the opinions of those i know who have.

had brian any other managerial experience before or after ballinderry?

This may be herisy(sp) here but i don't think McIvor is good enough for county management. lads who have played under him at ballinderry openly describe him as a decent manager who had the foresight to have great men like dessie ryan in his back room team and a lot of them had a much healthier respect for barton. a decent club manager is hardly a ringing endorsement for stepping into county managementand in my view he has made no progress with donegal.

Orangeman - you should excuse yourself from this discussion as you are obviously related to McIvor.

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Just a bump!

Game coming up on Sunday. admission is free and a great day is promised.

All proceeds go to a good cause!

how do you plan to raise money?

I was impressed with skinny McKeown and if he's out he will be a big loss but McKenna in the middle of the field can be replaced easy with Tony or John Mac or the midfield pairing against Dromintee (can't remember who it was).

one area i would disagree with this sentiment about cross is at midfield. dromintee have cleaned cross out at midield 2 years in a row now and that is very uncross like. hanratty looked a few levels below senior championship last weekend and tony mcentee was not in the game at all. If McKenna gets back he can bolster the area but they may have to bring john mcentee in there.

It was a disppointing weekend of football overall. wasn't at the ogs game but it sounds like they were very impressive with jj clarke adding quite a bit of scoring power. cruppen in particular disappointed but harps did their job very profesionally. the cross game was a funny oul game - a very eerie atmosphere with little or no fire to it. the cross goal effectively ended the game at a very imprtant time and it was never a goal from my viewpoint. cross look very vulnerable with tony mcentee, hanratty and donaldson manning central positions and looking very poor. could be a big chance for clans!

Ciara staunton

McCain can pull a master stroke here and nominate a woman as his running mate to woo the disenfranchised hillary fans

declan brennan doesn't even know much about gaelic, never mind aussie rules!