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The winners won't come from the Armagh vs Tyrone game if Armagh win. We're capable of beating Tyrone, we're not capable of putting 3 back to back wins in Ulster!! Its been awhile since Armagh put in 2 good displays in a row in the championship. I fancy Tyrone or Down.

Anybody putting Toner in their team needs a serious examination, offers nothing.  What has happened James Lavery - was it not him who was not so long ago labelled as the best full-back in the country?

I don't think your opinion on Toner can be valued when you go to say that about James Lavery. Hes an average midfielder as best who doesn't offer anything apart from fielding, I also have no recollection of him ever playing at full back!!

And I can't see for the life of me Paddy starting Morgan!! I'd expect to see McKenna take the number 4 spot. For those with P Duffy in their team, as he not left the panel? heard he retired for personal reasons.

Caolan Rafferty would be ahead of McParland, McVerry and TK

Does he offer much from play? we have plenty of free kick takers so we dont need to carry one

He was one of our best finds in the league! Can win his own ball and never took frees

it cant be that team did hearty not retire or did i read that wrong in the paper?

poor team overall, wont keep the ball kicked out to tyrone.

No midfield and no number 14!! On 2nd thought I think Hanratty will get his place on the team.

I can imagine our fowards being pushed out to the wings and having no other choice but to fist pass it backwards. Points from play could be scarce.

Any word on Toner?

Armagh

1. Paul Hearty

2. Andy Mallon
3. Brendan Donaghy
4. Declan McKenna

5. Aaron Kernon
6. Ciaran McKeever
7. Kevin Dyas

8. Charlie Vernon
9. Malachy Mackin

10. Aidan Forker
11. Brian Mallon
12. Anto Duffy

13. Jamie Clark
14.
15. Caolan Rafferty

I'd expect that to be the team that starts against Tyrone. Who takes the other foward spot is up in the air. Anyone of Kingham/BJP/McParland/Grugan/Duffy/Moriarty/Stevenson could claim it. Personally I'd like to see McParland there.

In fairness there's a limited number of places on the squad. It would be unfair for the lads that got us this far in the league to then  be  dropped for the final game. I think 3 Cross lads is a fair number for the Donegal match. With more coming in for the Tyrone game.

I'd say that, while most in Tyrone have enjoyed the performances during the league, we aren't expecting much this year.  Hard to see this team coping with the physicality of the likes of the Dubs at this stage.  While defensively sound, not clinical enough with our scores-R O'Neill will be missed.  Armagh on their day can beat anyone and we could well be threw out the back door on the first day.  I think that this would be a better route for this fledgling team.  I see Ricey was already talking about "Next Year" in a teamtalk interview-that's an indication as to where Tyrone are right now.
Can't see past The Dubs and Kerry-the only thing going against the Dubs is the chance of a fussy ref.   Donegal, Down, Armagh,Tyrone and Kildare are just behind them.   Mayo, Cork,Derry are next with Fermanagh as the dark horses for a quarter-final spot. 

As biased as I am... I don't see how Armagh can be rated above Cork and Mayo in anyone's book.

Armagh have shown that they can beat the big teams and are afraid of no-one-still have the Cross boys to come back.  Mayo haven't a hope-attitude stinks, and Cork are on the wain-depend a lot on Goulding being fit.

Far be it from me to stick up for our noisy neighbours but have Mayo not beaten more big teams in championship footbal in recent years than Armagh have?

Outside of Connacht, Just Cork last year! The O'Mahoney years were a disaster! You have to go back to 2006 under Mickey Moran when Mayo beat Dublin.

That's still better then Armagh. We haven't been in the quarterfinals since 2008 and you have to go back to 2005 for our last semi-final appearance. Armagh haven't beaten a massive team since the Ulster final against Tyrone in 2005.

I'd say that, while most in Tyrone have enjoyed the performances during the league, we aren't expecting much this year.  Hard to see this team coping with the physicality of the likes of the Dubs at this stage.  While defensively sound, not clinical enough with our scores-R O'Neill will be missed.  Armagh on their day can beat anyone and we could well be threw out the back door on the first day.  I think that this would be a better route for this fledgling team.  I see Ricey was already talking about "Next Year" in a teamtalk interview-that's an indication as to where Tyrone are right now.
Can't see past The Dubs and Kerry-the only thing going against the Dubs is the chance of a fussy ref.   Donegal, Down, Armagh,Tyrone and Kildare are just behind them.   Mayo, Cork,Derry are next with Fermanagh as the dark horses for a quarter-final spot. 

As biased as I am... I don't see how Armagh can be rated above Cork and Mayo in anyone's book.

I would love nothing more then Paddy O'Rourke to lay a successful ambush of Tyrone. I doubt we'll ever see Stevie in Armagh colours again  though a couple of our young forwards are showing well particularly Rafferty, if we can get our midfield sorted out we ill have a chance!!

If we win and Laois beat Down we could be in the semis..

We would have to annihilate Donegal, as in score over 35+ points.

Thats not right!! If Dublin or Kerry beat Mayo, we beat Donegal, and Laois beat Down. Would I not be right in saying that would leave us in 4th place?

Beat Donegal and were safe. Easier said than done. If Mayo lose to Kerry and Dublin (quite possible), and Down beat Laois, Armagh are safe regardless.   

you have got to assume at least one of those results will go against us. Its going to be a real battle up in Donegal. To be honest I'm pleased just to be in with a chance of staying up at this stage, giving all the troubles Armagh encountered in this campaign.

I am sorry I didnt do a screen capture. Dive of the year. It was an afterthought at that.

the penalty was given because a Down man touched it on the ground!!

Radio coverage, anyone?

http://www.destinationnewry.com/video/latest-video/down_v_armagh_live_

In fairness for me the most disappointing thing to come out of that game last week, was the response of the Armagh players... although they did show some signs of a comeback in the second half.

you would have thought the injustice of it all would have driven them on to victory playing with intensity and getting a few big hits in... and when i say injustice I don't mean the McKeever incident... I mean the general incompetence of the ref giving seemingly every decision to Loais... I applaud the Armagh players and management for restraining themselves and not giving him a good punch!!

Its not an isolated incident.. the Kerry fans give wild abuse at Armagh players calling them Brits