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That type of thing is out of order, but it's hardly in Mullen territory. Even still, Doherty was more guilty on the day. He's an awful hot-head and will need to keep his temper in check if Derry are to challenge for honours this year. Dick has shown everyone else how easy Doherty is to wind up and you can bet other teams will try to take advantage.

Oakleafer, on this occassion Doherty was worse than Dick, why can't you accept that? Of course Dick's no angel by a long shot but he simply wound up Doherty and he took the bait several times!

The Bradleys may have been getting abuse before the throw-in but sure they weren't the only ones. Barry McGoldrick reached around and hit Finlay in the head, easy to focus on the incidents you want to.

The Moen's have been at that for years.

Sure Dessie's only been a defender for a couple of years, all that fending off boxes from opposing defenders before that must have helped him learn quick eh?  

The Bradleys may have been getting abuse before the throw-in but sure they weren't the only ones. Barry McGoldrick reached around and hit Finlay in the head, easy to focus on the incidents you want to.

I suppose the fact Tommy was running in at an angle made it worse, but still he just took him out, very cynical but it would have been a freak accident if anything like a broken leg happened imo. I'd say Mullen's knee was more dangerous in fairness, he drove it in with force.

Rory Woods was the most dangerous player on the field yesterday. Every incident that he got involved in had nothing to do with him, always the 3rd man.

Eh? Come on! Rory Woods can be hot headed and shouldn't get involved in such incidents, but how was he "the most dangerous player on the field yesterday"? Did he kick anyone? Did he headbutt anyone? Did he grab anyone by the legs? Did he knee anyone in the groin? I'm open to correction if i missed something, but the most he did was pushing and shoving - in comparison to some of yesterday's incidents... foolish yes, but hardly dangerous.

Nah, as I said before Freeman's challenge on McGuigan was the most dangerous by a mile - lucky that serious injury wasn't suffered.

A headbutt more dangerous than a knee in the groin, by a mile?

I think he's on about the challenge on Barry McGuigan where Tommy ran across him and pulled him down on the run. Cynical, most definately. One of the most dangerous yesterday, not close.

[club championship]

how many more biters is saffronsam gonna get before you realise its a windup?

schkite we are all waiting on you coming back to us with a game that was abandoned recently? sure its a regular enough occurrence

I just think it's a sad indictment of the state of Monaghan football that they've had to abandon a club championship game in the last few years - is this what banty's reign has brought to Monaghan football - where will it all end??

Just to clarify, it wasn't a championship game, twas a league game. Not that it makes any difference at all but when we're picking holes in posts here I thought I'd join in.

Jesus...right first of all I didn't say it was a regular occurrence.

And I was only talking about that game as one that had alot of suspensions out of it, I wasn't on about it being abandoned. I misread bingobus' post, so shoot me.

[It seems a regular enough event in Derry]

There hasn't been too many club games abandoned (bar one) over the last few years in Monaghan. It seems a regular enough event in Derry.

I dont recall any

What about the match between Slaughtneil and Ballinderry last year? That's one off the top of my head.
 
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2008/1009/derry.html

My viewing of the incident was that the ball went out of play and hopped over the fence.  Hughes came chasing the ball and deliberately pushed the spectator.  Looked like he deserved to be punched if that was the case

Yeah just like McManus deserved to get a knee in the balls for the "rugby tackle" 

I didn't see the incident, but if a Derry supporter was acting the bollix and holding onto the ball when we needed it back quickly, Hughes had every right to go in and force it from him. As I say I didn't see it but if he pushed him he had a reason to, he's not a dirty player and you'll notice he didn't partake in any of the bullshit on the field that's we're discussing today, I wouldn't think he'd jump into the crowd and push someone for no reason. But punching a player is wrong, I doubt Hughes deserved it if this story is true.

What's the story with this, is this the Darren Hughes incident?

Monaghan player punched by fan - claim
25 May 2009

The Ulster Council is set to investigate allegations that a Monaghan player was struck by a fan during yesterday's ill-tempered Ulster SFC clash at Celtic Park.

The provincial body will review a video of the game in an attempt to identify the spectator who allegedly threw a punch at the player. The incident took place on the Gasworks side of the redeveloped ground midway through the second half.

Derry won a bruising and foul-ridden encounter by 1-10 to 0-10, having lost to Monaghan in each of the past two years.

Monaghan's All-Star forward Tommy Freeman was at the centre of a similar incident early last year when he was head-butted by a Dublin backroom team member after a spiteful National League game in Parnell Park.

Barry McGoldrick looked like a real mouthpiece alright, always in the thick of it and had something to say. Though Sean Leo did well though.

Is there another midfielder there among the Monaghan team that could step in?

That's the problem, we've very little depth there. JP Mone would be a midfielder for us within the county but he's done well at full back the last few years for the county and would be a miss there. James Conlon had a great year at midfield last year for Carrick, when they won the league and got to the championship final, but to be fair to him he wasn't given a fair go in the league. Played a few games at full-back, corner-back and centre-back but didn't look good in any if them. But he wasn't given a chance in his normal position and the position we need more players in - strange to say the least. Anyway, he obviously got sick of it and left the panel a while back. Apart from that you've Benny McKenna, big lump of a lad but wouldn't trust him there. Finlay can play there but we need him on the forty.

Also - lost in the BS about Mullan and McManus

How far has Eoin Lennons performances fallen?

Frighteningly poor - but travelling to and from Liverpool isn't a good idea - not even training with the team regularly.

Yes the trip to Liverpool has made all the difference, he hasn't been the same since.

On the bright side(if there is one after today), we play Latton in the championship Friday night, hopefully Lennon will be below-par for that too(but back to top form for the qualifiers)!  

[Think there's a photo on sportsfile that you can see it a bit better.]

See the attempt at an eye-gouge by Doherty?

How do you know it was an attempt an that. Clerkin came in to try and out muscle Doc off the ball. Fergal took a dislike and the two choked each other to the ground.

I was just wondering how anyone else saw it. Heard from someone after that was sitting at that far side with a better view and they reckoned there was something in it. All I saw was when Dick was on the ground you could see Doherty's left hand come round to his face, but sure you couldn't see much after that. Think there's a photo on sportsfile that you can see it a bit better.

http://www.sportsfile.com/id/355249/5000/

Yeah that's the one. Not a great view of it but you can make out Doherty's hand over Clerkin's eyes, and that hand was totally missed by the TV cameras. Doubt he'll get pulled up on it.