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I just asked you to list the 54 titles won so I could turn them into a screensaver. No need to go off on a mad rant. You've got way too much time on your hands.

Have the dubs really 54 titles since 2005? You have to list them out otherwise how can anyone belive you. Could be just one of those urban myths like the dub players don't have jobs.

No, you came in with another of the Dub responses, question why every other county hasn't tried to emulate Dublin's regime. I kindly informed you of why. You had no response to this.
Also, you are clearly uninformed on this whole topic. 54 titles is easy to back up, in fact I have a table done on it.

To quote the psychiatrist in Fawlty Towers, "there's enough material there for an entire conference".

And that's without even getting to the rest of your posts.

You could probably base an entire year's worth of lectures on them.

Fighting injustice is a complicated matter. It's never straight forward.

So it's like Scooby doo then??? Dubs would have got away with of it wasn't for you pesky kids. Can you list the 54 titles the dubs have WON? That would make an awesome screensaver for my computer in work. If you could spread them out to fill the screen that would be great

You can't even attempt to argue against the case I put forward. I know it's hard to accept. Everyone wants their county to win things fairly. Unfortunately it's not the case with Dublin. 54 titles have an asterisk beside them. If a proper investigation is undertaken then Dublin could get stripped of them all.

Did I use too many words and you got tired reading and couldn't get to the end???

I made the perfect reasonable point that before a county board is given a grant they should have to show how they'd spend it.

It's what state agencies do if you apply for a grant and I think it makes sense. When you grow up and start work you'll learn things like budgeting and planning. You can't live off mammy and daddy forever. It's a big bad world out there once you leave the classroom. It must be nice to still have your innocence like you though

Personal abuse - check
Deflection - check
The usual Dub response. 

I'll have to spell it out for you. Other counties went to Croke Park with costed plans but the door was slammed shut on them. This was for money within the association. You and others can try to ignore it all you like but the majority of Dublin's windfall has been provided by public money, by ordinary citizens. This was not possible for any other county as none of them disgraced former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern on their side. He was the king of dodgy deals and this one has bought Dublin 54 titles since 2005.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Dublin

We're not an amalgamation, those "counties" were created as administrative areas. In the 90s. Not 1890s. 1990s.

Lot of thicks on the board about Dublin these days. Apparently, pointing that out means you are a financial doper, cheat, one-eyed etc.

No, this is Dublin's financial doping:

Dublin had a short term/long term plan for their funding. How many any other counties can say that? No point just throwing money at a  county and expecting them to magically improve. You only have to look at the HSE to see just throwing money into a black hole doesn't work.

If I was in charge of funding the bare minimum requirement before handing over a cent would be an outline of how the grant would be spent. I'd also have a review every few years to see if the county board are actually spending the money as they suggested and if the ir plans are working

So you don't think the money should be spread? Keep it all for Dublin GAA?

The GAA, Dublin county board and the government of the day (Bertie Ahern) made the plan. There was numerous highly paid people put in place to ensure the plan came to fruition. This is a major scandal, it needs to be investigated fully. It could be argued that this whole episode has seen Dublin GAA bring our games into disrepute.

Dublin GAA were granted major funding by disgraced former Taoiseach Bertie Ahern with the backing of the GAA. Most of this money comes from public funds. It was granted under the pretence of developing Gaelic Games participation in Dublin. What has happened is that Dublin GAA have set up a professional system of developing elite talent along with providing most clubs with paid full time coaches, some with more than 1.
How many new clubs have been formed in Dublin since 2005? What new areas have Dublin GAA being able to increase it's playing numbers? Where is the data on it's fight against sports such as rugby and soccer? We have seen and an investigation will show that the money has developed elite level athletes at all grades and levels. Underage hurling and football, club hurling and football, senior hurling and football in both mens and womens versions of our games.
The money has been used to create a professional set up. The Gaelic Athletic Association is an amatuer organisation. At a minimum Dublin GAA has defied the ethos of the GAA. I think it go further than that, as i said it needs to be investigated but I'm off the belief that Dublin GAA have contravened the rules of our association.

I'm not not blaming you for your opinion, but I have to disagree.  The Money, Dublin & the gaa thread is nearly 100 pages at them moment and you can be certain it will go over 100 pages. Most of thes post posts vary from criticising dublin's funding, claims of professional players, sponsored cars to meals being delivered to players homes/workplace I could go on.

If people spent more time coming up with a plan for improving GAA participation/training/coaching in their own county/club and less time obsessing and researching how much money the dubs get, how it's spent etc it would be far more beneficial.

Why are nearly all the Dublin forwards for example two footed, but Mayo's forwards for example are not?

Why haven't Mayo brought through a top class forward in the last 15 years with all the clubs they have and underage success at minor and U21?

Derry are in division 4 of the league next year and at an all time low. What is the GAA participation rate in Derry city for GAA and what can be done to improve it?

Typical Irish attitude to knock/criticise those at the top rather try to improve your own standards

The issue with money and Dublin is serious, very serious. We're meant to be an amateur sport, once county going professional is wrong. This needs to be faced up to.

How do you think other counties will improve their standards? How do you think all the Dublin forwards became two footed? It all goes back to finance. With the millions of euro they received, Dublin have set up a system where elite players are first identified, coached and developed to the highest standards. Their elite player pathway is designed to have a huge number of athletic, strong, fast, skillful players leaving the system and joining the senior ranks. It's basically a copy of the Leinster rugby system. That's a professional system and so is Dublin's.

So instead of criticising other counties, why aren't Dubs saying, let's spread the money out? We've got enough of it. Why are no Dubs standing up and saying, enough is enough, this can't continue. Let's have some fair play in our association?

Not as much belittling other counties though.

You mean they don't belittle other counties as well? I think they do. Especially when the whole financial irregularities are pointed out. They can't argue against facts so they pick on the county the person is from and attempt to belittle them. They also like to go on personal attacks. It's all apart of the guilt complex they have. I don't know, it must be their way of dealing with it.

It's the recent All Ireland final losses by a point each time that is annoying me. And the 'let's-all-belittle-Mayo' element of their support base which annoys me so much, and there's a good lot out there.

There is a nasty element among their support, of course there are many decent fans as well but, the failure to even acknowledge any financial assistance in their current senior football teams dominance and improvements elsewhere is really strange. This is not a conspiracy theory, the money they received is real. Let me just post the actual Dublin county board accounts from 2016 again:






I think some of the nastiness that comes from Dublin supporters is out of a form of guilt. They obviously know about the money, deep down they know that their recent All Ireland run for example, has been bought. It's difficult to face up to this so they've attempted to convince themselves that it's all myth, it's all lies, this all comes from hard work and a one of bunch of players etc. With this they also lash out, especially at counties like Mayo. This is because they know they've robbed them of All Ireland's, it's some form of physiological response, a study should be done on it.

  It's everybody against the poor Dubs. They're getting treated worse than the blacks in the deep south of America. Why won't anyone give them a break? Or hang on a minute. Haven't Dublin being given millions of all of our money for over a decade? Haven't their footballers played every championship game at home bar 1 for over a decade? Haven't they had access to state of the art training facilities paid for by all of us? Haven't they been using one of the biggest stadiums in Europe as their home which was also paid for by all of us?

That makes it hilarious that the Dubs are playing the victims when they've been handed everything on a plate! Spoilt and entitled!

The only unprecedented thing is the multi million euro professional set up within Dublin GAA. It's something that has never been seen and the results reflect that. 54 titles since 2005 at all grades and levels. Dublin won 51 titles between 1966 and 2005. So more titles in the 13 years since the huge funding than in the 29 years before that!

It's a good thing the internet wasn't about when Kerry were winning all before them!

And it's strange that no one was asking Kilkenny to split in two during their domination of hurling!

Theses things come in cycles, ask Cavan Gaels Crossmaglen and Naomh Gall about dominance in their domestic club competition, it doesn't last forever, the same will be for Dublin

Kerry and Kilkenny haven't got 1.3m people within their boundaries.

Or receive 2.5 million per year to fund their underage system.

Has anyone had a read of this thread? It's hilarious! Here's a few quotes from the early pages, this was 5 years ago!

And how do you propose to split Kilkenny?

Why Split them, come back to me when they win 10 all-Irelands in 15yrs or something, winning 2 in 3 hardly counts, Kilkenny killing teams for yrs, nobody talks of splitting them!!

How many people living in Dublin aren't from Dublin? How much funding coming to counties is due to funding due to Dublin?

How much do the Kilkenny county board spend on the footballers?

This bullsh** starts up every time Dublin wins and it is really sad. There is no way there should be a spilt in Dublin. Let counties get up off their own asses and do the work that the clubs continue to do at underage club level.

time and again you claim Dublin got 7 million yet time and again you fail to provide evidence

Imagine Spain or Brazil being told they had to split their country for the World Cup because they were too good!! Ridiculous

Anti Dubs will always be just that.

If you don't like the smell of pig shit, and your sisters crack, then become a Dub, and enjoy the free life.

Get over it.

Jesus lads, its about getting off yer hole and putting it up to the Dubs. Kerry do it regular, Mayo did it recently but not Sunday, we handed them their asses a couple of times. Splitting Dublin is ludicrous. The real issue in the GAA is that hurling is on its ass, a few counties are there year in year out and no word of it.

This is vague unsubstatiated nonsense. The reason you don't have any detail is your making it up. 7 million of taxpayers money my hole!

Nobody knows anything about this 7m except you.

I know exactly how Dublin have made incremental improvements. And money was the least of them!

The only substantial improvement offered from the GAA was to increase the number of GPO's from 14 to 50 and half their salary is paid by the club itself!

So you haven't a rashers what's going on.

7 million  . This is quality entertainment.

In the mid 90's Dublin went up to Tyrone and went down to Kilkenny. They looked at their development teams and brought the concept to Dublin.

That's the root cause of our success recently. Nothing to do with 7m mythology

Sorry do you or do you not admit that your original assertion of us getting 7m of taxpayer's money was untrue.

How do you know we received 3m of Govt money. Give me proof and I'll believe you . I promise!

Lads lets be serious here the Cluxtons, Flynns, Connolly, Brogans of this world are players who come along every 20 years. Dublin are having their purple patch. I'd be shocked if the players who replace these lads in 5-6 years are of their standard, despite the recent underage success.

Tyrone won 5 All Ireland minor titles (I think) in the 2000s and we've seen those players arent of the 97/98 standard.

The same excuses, the same deflection, the same abuse is now happening to those who call out this farce as back then. Only now I think more people have caught onto it. The Dubs used to deny the existence of any taxpayers money going into their underage system, the truth was there was more than was first thought.

Dublin GAA is killing our games. They took the money, no one forced them too. They were happy to accept the titles that came with it. They can't complain when the inevitable split happens.

  Why is this freak copying my posts and pretending their his?