Messages

How are they not canceled though ? just look at what they were on the wrong side of history for .
Are you justifying them ?

No.

They've a shameful history.

Which they repudiated more than 50 years ago.

Its a shame for everyone that the GOP eagerly swept up what the Dems abandoned.

that doesn't hold up to the standards of today they need to go .

How are they not canceled though ? just look at what they were on the wrong side of history for .
Are you justifying them ?

With all the cancel culture it's amazing how the the Democrats are not canceled for their party's history
Voted against emancipation of the slaves , voted against allowing blacks to be citizens and voted against allowing freed slaves to vote  all 100% against.
Even Nancy's father oversaw the dedication of stonewall Jackson and Robert e lee statues in Baltimore when he was mayor  and now she calls for removing statues but won't comment on her father . They birthed the kkk and had a former klansman as it's senate leader a few decades ago . Interned people of Japanese and German ethnicity.

You could go back and forth on this for weeks can we do a poll on it ?

Should police in all countries not be upholding the law and protecting property instead of concerned citizens  whatever their views are .

Turns out the warlord of chaz has a history of homophobic tweets , you couldn't make this stuff up ha ha bunch of clowns .

Assuming it's true.

Apparently Fox News has been manipulating photos a wee bit and playing a little fast and loose with the facts.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/?amp=1

tweets are not altered that's for sure

Turns out the warlord of chaz has a history of homophobic tweets , you couldn't make this stuff up ha ha bunch of clowns .

One of the statues being pulled down fell on someone last night and the guy is in critical condition, statues of black civil war soldiers and Lincoln are being vandalized, not very well educated activists.

[the line "where does it stop?".]

I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

I largely agree with Sid on this, it should be possible to discuss whether or not something is offensive or not without getting into ridiculous whataboutery. I personally don't think a lot of these things should be banned and the idea of having a notice at the beginning of the films seems like a good one.

That said, I'm not the one being portrayed in a negative light in most of these films - if the people who are being portrayed in a negative manner consider something in a film to be offensive then I might change my opinion on it.

It's much easier for not very bright people to argue against a straw man than to argue actual issues.

The right-wing culture war humanity is under attack from is based on only ever arguing against straw men.

The straw men are designed to evoke a visceral reaction from straight, white men that their very existence is under attack.

The straw men are designed to destroy critical thinking and make everything a tribal war based on fake anger and offence on the part of the right-wing culture warrior.

The right-wing culture war and its straw men are designed to turn any assertion of rights on the part of traditionally marginalised groups in society, into an imagined "attack" on the straight, white male, ie. it deliberately distorts reality, in fact it turns reality completely on its head so that right-wing cultuure warriors are fooled into believing the opposite of reality.

The attack on so callled "political correctness" and the line "where does it stop?" are classic examples of this right-wing culture war fake victimhood.

Quite the neat trick the designers of this right-wing culture war have pulled off, really, and thoroughly depressing how many people are fooled by it.

why don't you give us a list of movies , books ,tv shows , statues that are offensive? We can argue each one .

I propose all images of Che Guevara be banned as he interned gay people in concentration camps and tortured them

dont tell ghat to Mick wallace

I'm really intrigued by the amount of people here who have unironically used the line "where does it stop?".

It's like they cannot whatsoever comprehend the difference between deliberately using racist tropes to ridicule black people, and accurate depictions of racism which are an integral or perfectly legitimate part of a story.

Using this logic, there is literally no difference between the Black and White Minstrel Show and, say, Spike Lee's "Do The Right Thing".

It bears out completely what I say about how right-wing culture warriors use simplistic, nonsense arguments when nuance is needed, yet try to introduce false nuance when something is a case of the bleedin' obvious.

It makes me wonder: what exactly are these right-wing culture warriors afraid of?

you are concentrating on racism towards black people everyone else is broadening the scope to include all the other things people can be offended by , don't be so selective in your outrage.

[Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges]

Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.

so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesn't agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?

not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

Of course its a shocking figure.

I've no idea what BLM does on the ground in Chicago, or if they do anything.

But I'm pretty sure there are all kinds of people in the black community there working their arses off to try to fix the social and gang problems in that city.

Have you looked into that at all?

Or is this just another "black on black crime", "Chicago" attempt to change the subject BLM are trying to address?

Have you heard any of the call between the mayor and the dem alderman there she says in the call that she couldn't give a fu$k what's going on in the street as he begs for help controlling his district  , a shambles of a mayor and a disaster for the already under siege black community there .  Better for her to say fu$k the police than do something constructive for her city . Paint slogans do nothing

Fawlty towers would have a few too many stereotypes , o brien the chancer builder I think was one

[Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges]

Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.

so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesn't agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .

And?

not hearing anything from blm on this do blm not natter for any of these murders and shootings. and is the figure not staggering to you ?

[Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges]

Lock him up. And impeach the nakedly corrupt William Barr. Lock up all the corrupt criminals in this corrupt, criminal regime, actually.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/10/gleeson-flynn-sullivan-barr-justice-department-311018

Ex-judge tapped to review Flynn case blasts DOJ for 'pretextual' effort to drop charges
The retired judge, John Gleeson, said the Justice Department had improperly bowed to the will of President Donald Trump.

By JOSH GERSTEIN and KYLE CHENEY

06/10/2020 12:36 PM EDT

A former judge selected to advise on a path forward in the criminal case against Michael Flynn is accusing the Justice Department of distorting the justice system to protect an ally of President Donald Trump by attempting to shut down the prosecution.

The former federal judge, John Gleeson, is recommending that the judge handling the case instead proceed to sentence the former Trump national security adviser on the false-statement charge he admitted to two-and-a-half years ago.

"The facts surrounding the filing of the Government's motion constitute clear evidence of gross prosecutorial abuse. They reveal an unconvincing effort to disguise as legitimate a decision to dismiss that is based solely on the fact that Flynn is a political ally of President Trump," Gleeson wrote in a filing Wednesday with Washington-based U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan, who formally tapped Gleeson to weigh in as a friend of the court.

so the left leaning  judge who appointed another left leaning judge to look over the matter doesn't agree with the right leaning Barr wow ,
Something I rarely comment on but I think it is relevant with Blm so much in the news these days 18 black people were murdered in Chicago on May 31st and over weekend 24 were killed and 85 injured by gunfire pretty staggering numbers .