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["no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my]

"no doubt they'd win inter",is a massive exageration,in my opinion.i said they'd beat the majority of teams,and in div2,they've been in or around the top half,this year,and the two years before that?i think a decent inter team would be a more accurate description.

Aye I'd agree... They hold their own just about in the last couple of years

Dont really want to start a debate on this but our seconds have beaten two of the intermediate semi finalists this year and only for 2 goals in injury time would have beaten Knockbride as well so I think they more than hold their own at intermediate.

I presume Enda Reilly from Mullahoran will be in with the U21s as well. Saw Barry Reilly in the semi on Saturday evening and he is very good player - lovely dummy on him! I would expect him to make an impact with the senior set up next year.

I have to agree with Dougal about McClarey! A brilliant footballer, is strong, very quick, can win his own ball and kick a score and more importantly is a team player. He always in front of his man as well. Would love to see him start the final.

Put it up no offence taken, actually quite the opposite. Totally agree with you - our lads standards have dropped, I just hope they can get back to where they were in the past. They have not played well in the championship to date so they better shake up or they will be out on Sunday, no doubt about it.

If, as PIU has said, other clubs tried to get standards up that would be better for football then. Now I know every club does that to some extent but its more beneficial to exceed the best team at any given sport than to hope to beat them.

Nevertheless, it is pretty tough for clubs this weather. If thats true about Crosserlough then fair dues to them for still being senior (for the time being anyway!)

Ah lads no need for that - I thought the whole county was behind us! 

Actually C4sam, you say it would be better for Cavan football but this is a statement that I never really got. Take my Gaels bias out of it for a moment so firstly I am not on a rant about it being against us - its a common statement said about pretty much every successful team. It never did Armagh any harm when Crossmaglen were winning every year, nor do I think hurling in Ireland has deteriorated after Kilkenny winning 4 in a row. Just wonder your thoughts behind it! Was I the only one wanting Kilkenny to win last weekend? - 5 in a row never been done before so it would have been good to see history made. Probably just for neutral I suppose its better, but better for football in the county - I dont think so.

As for predictions - Gaels and Kingscourt to win in senior semi's. I reckon Drumlane will take the leaguers in the replay - they appear to be missing McKiernan a lot. Swad to win the junior out.

when will the semis be?cant wait for the gaels v mullahoran.havent seen mullahoran at all this year,so its hard to know if they can beat the gaels,but i think they should.

Well if we play like we did in the first half on Friday evening then the dreadnoughts will hammer us. We havent played one good championship game this year. Bit worrying but great draw for us all the same, will see where we are at.

Good to see two relatively big teams back in the semis in Ramor and Kingscourt. Reckon the stars will pip that one - I believe Ado Cole went off with a hamstring injury at the weekend so if he is out then he will be a big loss.

Is it definitely true about King being a selector? I have heard the same as what Myles is describing. Are we scraping the bottom of the barrel? I think so. If we have joint managers, do we need a selector? I thought all we would have needed was a trainer if that was the case.

I dont think joint managers work full stop. We need one man calling the shots. But best of luck to them. Some of the items Louth Exile mentions are very worrying but for some of them (the food for example) I am sure are handled by some other party within the management team. I am sure Val himself (nor any manager for that matter) is ringing up and organising food. But point taken that he should have been on top of it and making sure someone was appointed to that task.

Any word on a trainer then? If they got Flanagan in that would be a real boost and for me would be as good as getting in a Pete McGrath type manager.

I'm with you on the joint managers lads. Don't care who it is but there really needs to be one man in charge and thats it. Andrews is a likeable character though. Doesnt appear to be a me man (unlike Carr) and maybe might get more out of the players. I dont know if many of the players will even listen to Hyland though.

Heard its going to be replayed as well. Seemingly referee put a score down for Ramor instead of the Gaels. Announced at end of game Ramor won by two, but then later noted he had made a mistake.

Drew with Ramor today - poor performance from our lads. Ramor were well up for it and could have won it if they took their goal chance in second half. Leaves us on 3 points, Ballinagh on 3 and Ramor on 2. Lavey out. Tight for second now - we nee to beat Ballinagh so on that will go for Ramor to pip second.

Oh God PJF please say your joking. This is a backwards step for cavn football if its true. They are stuck in the tactical mindset of the 90's, and football has moved on a lot from that. From personal experience with Hyland, his training methods and tactical approach to a game are basic and outdated.
Also I dont believe in having two men in charge, there needs to be one boss and one selector, or coach, or whatever title you want to give him. But this pairing is not the way to go.

Totally agree BigMac - this is a massive leap backwards, never mind a step backwards. I could imagine a lot more players not committing to the panel if this was the case.

Could someone get me a price on Kerry/Tyrone/Cork/Kildare accumulator? Cant get it here at work.

Well we are always going to put out our best team. I dont think there is any shame in that. Other players have plenty of games to prove themselves before championship.

And anyway neither are going to be guaranteed first team players this year. Cormac carrying few injuries and is always  injury prone, and Martin is away and will do well to hold down a regular spot. McClarey is going to be there or there abouts when he is back.

I can understand that frustration and I actually thought it would have been discussed here more. That was the first league game wasnt it and I dont think the seniors were out that weekend.

Few problems here though:

1. Are you talking about changing the rules because we have better players eligible to play second team? Just because a team starts doing well doesnt mean rules should be altered.

2. Any rules change would affect other teams as well, we are lucky that we have the numbers (most of the time ) but how would this affect other teams? Not very well I would imagine.

I am guessing your most pressing concern was with the fact that some weekends our seconds is full of senior players, and other weekends its not. Unfortunately, its the luck of the draw from what I see. What better way can we do it?

OK right we will step back a bit here before everything gets out of hand - I may have crossed the line with that comment so i'll hold my hand up for that. Bad morning today.

Firstly, the root of the problem was when we were placed in to the intermediate. We didnt win the junior championship the year before so we should not be in the intermediate championship. Now I dont know the numbers that we had but after the Senior game on the Friday night I think we had lost a few more which would have resulted in a lot of minors playing. Sure we could have fielded a team but executive was trying to save a lot of minor players from playing in the intermediate. One or two is ok but the numbers they were talking was unacceptable. We can only blame ourselves for this debacle anyway..

With regard to the younger lads learning from it I think it was more of a case of protecting them from a humiliation which may affect their football/confidence in the future.

Now now Terry, dont turn this into the Hoganstand with your childish "everyone is against us, but we don't care because it's Gaels against the world and we are going to win anyway, get over it" attitude. 
And please just read over your post, acknowledge it was a bit childish, and forget about it. Dont get into a hissy fit, and start a bitching session.

Now when did I turn this into a everyone is against us arguement. I mentioned one person. I wont start a bitching session but this a forum so I'm allowed to voice my opinions. Don't tell me what to write or not to write.

I acknowledged in another post that we fu**ed up. I can totally understand why cavan4sam might be pi**ed off but other lad just got to me. I have calmed down now anyway so we'll move on.

BTW that ref from Meath is a shocker. We had him once for a game and I think both sets of players were going to take the head off him which is a bad sign.

Ballinagh v Lavey - Ballinagh
Denn v Belturbet - Belturbet
Castlerahan v Killygarry - Castlerahan
Lacken v Crosserlough - Lacken
Ramor Utd v Cavan Gaels - Gaels
Kingscourt v Blackwater Gaels - Kingscourt
Cuchulainns v Redhills - Cuchulainns
Gowna v Mullahoran - Mullahoran