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i heard mchugh as well jinxy, he totally wrote off down and talked about how laois are so talented. Down beat laois home and away this last 2 years in the championship. In newry last year laois were dreadful, and the previous year in portlaoise, down were hammering them before clancy feigned a headbutt from dan gordon, and got him sent off. I dont know were he is coming from with his talented laois team.

i would have to agree with glassdrumman and darragh as favourites. Though darragh are an ageing team, the same players still seem to be on the go for the past 10 years. Its very difficult to predict the top 3 in div 3 this year and a relatively low points tally could yield a playoff spot. Bredagh and carryduff havent been very impressive in recent years, carryduff were very lucky to get promoted 2 years ago, but they seem to recruit a few new decent players each every year. I suppose we will know more after 5 or 6 games. Havent said that, division 2 looks extremely competitive this year too.

its the memory unfortunately dundrumite, its must be 10 years since we were in div4, but we usually struggle in Dundrum for some reason. However we give you a good thumping in the championship. Who do you think will claim the 3 play off spots this season?

Fair point.
DD is your man Lennon still with the Ardglass management?

I was talking to Paul Lennon over christmas and i think he is involved with a monaghan team this year, he is married to a girl from there. A very good trainer by the way, Brian Healy i think is taking his role this year and is also very good  and played with the team 2 or 3 years ago when peter oshea was manager.
Division 3 is going to be very tough this year and i think Ardglass's good record at home will stand them in good stead but we are very poor away from home. I actually cannot remember winning a senior game in Dundrum ever, bit of a bogey ground for us.

edward "tit" magee {micks da}, brian healy and ryan kelly are looking after ardglass this year.

i cudnt make the game last night but i havent been that impressed with Garvey either. He took a good score against queens but he gives a lot of frees away and seems a bit slow or deliberate on the ball. I  get the impression he is concentrating on making a bone crushing tackle all the time rather than simply defending, maybe playing to the crowd maybe inexperience.

my starting 15 for kildare would be
mcveigh

rafferty
mckernan
duffin/cole

murphy
colgan
hanna

gordon
rodgers

carr
martin clark
fitzpatrick

hughes
coulter
john clarke

If win your home games and get 8 points away, and you'll finish in the promotion play-offs every year. 30 points is always enough.

I dont think 30 pts would have been enough last year in div 3 only top 3 made the playoffs, i cud be wrong though

i didnt think keyser meant that either. I think a lot of people are feeling very disillusioned  with politicians and politics north and south of the border. I for one am.

Just looking at div 3 fixtures for this year any team that wins their home games and picks up even 8 pts away from home could make the playoffs this year. I dont think there will be a huge difference in points between the last playoff spot for promotion and the 4th from bottom for the relegation playoff.

It will be the same bullshit as before, they will sit up all night ordering takeaways and drinking tea then make a statement the next morning emphasising how hard all the parties worked thru the night{and the taoiseach and the pm of course}, how exhausted they all are and what a ground breaking and unique deal they have all contributed to. The press will come up with a fancy name for it ie good friday agreement, and the circus will carry on again. In the meantime the spotlight has been diverted from peter and gerry, cowen will return to dublin leading everyone to believe he has eventually done something worthwhile and the same for gordon.

will div 2 & 3  begin a month before div 1 to allow for the 4 extra league fixtures this season.

div 2 will be tight this year and so will div 3 with only one team getting promoted. Glassdrumman, carryduff, darragh cross, saul, drumgath, bredagh, ardglass and glenn will all be looking to reach a playoff spot.

I think everyone agrees that mcveigh should be first choice, i wouldnt say alder is a rookie though he must be 25 at least.

I saw the clips as well TH. Both keepers should have done better alright, Alder in particular was disappointing, its not like him, he is usually pretty steady. Id still give him the benefit of the doubt, though but i think Mcveigh is first cchoice regardless.

has the venue for wednesday nights game with donegal been decided yet.