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Just reading through the posts....and no mention of Mageean Cup win for Cross & Passion College. No maybe it wasnt big news but if Maghera won a McRory Cup or Hogan we would certainly be discussing it. Schools play a massive part in our players development. No wonder, you Antrim lads are way behind - no support of schools work. Just an obersvation

SS2 the difference between the Glenullin that Dawson managed to loose to and the current Glenullin team are considerable. And the fact that you are unable to appreciate that shows a serious lack of knowledge of football. Bellaghy have been to 3 finals since 2000...all of these under cassidys management. In other years when other people managed Bellaghy they have been poor and in dawsons cae a total mess...so figure it out. Also, and in my opinion this bit is crucial...none of the players wanted him to go....and in a club where success is everything and managers get shit for not being up to stratch....that in itself says alot. I mean even the beloved paudi O'Shea got hounded out of Kerry

Also reading through a few of your posts where you say to have talked to this player or that about this manager or that manager. All of the players that i have met and talked to about his ability, both with derry as coach in 2000-02 ish to bellaghy  have all said he is county material.

You do make some valid points and I won't dispute anything you say about Frank Dawson's managerial ability. However, I will point out that Dawson's Longstone team reached the Down final last year.. so figure it out.  There are also admittedly differences between the two Glenullin teams, but there are also differences in the way the Derry championship was run in the two seasons in question. In Dawson's era, it was a straight knockout and as such it is not inconceivable that on a one-off occasion, any team could beat any other team. Now, the way in which the system is structured favours stronger teams. Is it unreasonable to guess that Dawson may have hit the same heights last year as Cassidy, had he had the same championship structure in place?

You rightly state that Bellaghy have been to three finals under Cassidy, winning one. As I said before, for a man with a Bellaghy team that is only an average record, and hence based on this, he is an average club manager. Whether or not an average club manager can make the step up to senior inter-county management is the issue here. What you don't state is that two of the loses were to Slaughtneil (their first ever win) and Glenullen (their first in many years). In short he lost finals to two admittedly strong sides, but two with a limited championship tradition.

Paidi O Se was hounded out of Kerry because, by their standards, he was crap. He subsequently proved this in Clare.

I have never spoken to any player who played under Cassidy (it was Brennan I was referring to); I am basing my opinion on cold, hard statistics and the statistics, I feel, bear out my point. It may well be that the players rate Cassidy and that he is the best man for the Derry job, but I don't see it that way.

Saffron Sam - you must have a serious chip on your shoulder. Obviously Cassidy has insulted you at some point in time or else didnt take a job with your club or maybe its cos he turned Antrim job down a few years ago.......

Listen to what the Derry posters say, they rate him, majority of players rate him. Not because they like him as a person, but because they rate him as a manager - tough, ruthless and knowledgeable. He has a set gameplan and his teams stick and play to it. He has win at everything he has ever done - as a player with St Pats Maghera, Bellaghy and Derry. As a coach he was involved when Derry won nationalleague in 2000 and got beat by 3 points in all Ireland semi by eventual champions Galway. As a manager he coached Loughmacrory top their only ever "A" title in Tyrone - U-21. Now if that had of been Carrickmore or Errigal, it wouldnt hold much credit, but fuckin loughmacrory. With Bellaghy he has won one league, one championship, beat in 2 finals,led the only team in to beat Cross in Cross in years, and with cuurrent club Clonoe, beat the Errigal Ciaran in c'ship.

So how the hell can you, try to discredit his creditanials.

But then again - typical begrudger

John Joe are you suggesting that if a certain manager had of got staying on........taht Antrim would have won an ulster u-21 title!!!!

Exactly Brick.....McIlkennon got rid of him last year for same reason....he doesnt want county football enough, neither does pierson! Thats ok but you lads just keep throwing crazy money at outside men.......who wufdnt take the money......u need to start with u-16,s u-14's and breed the winning mentality and what it takes at this age!!

Davis - doesnt even know the players names - when he is referring to players he is busying looking at his notes to get their names!!!! f**k i know there names and im just a gaa fan. he gets paid £400 a night to read players names off a sheet!!!! Brutal....he even said last nite that Kildarew had never won a qulifier until Saturday...bulshit they beat cavan last year!!!

You lads cudnt wait to get rid of McIlkennon & Cassidy last year.......u have done as bad this year......as both of them said...if the players dont want it, it wudnt matter if O'dwyer was in charge!!!!

Downey at Portglenone - my god........they are a real knowledgeable outfit that lot.....

They have had some top managers......Gerry McPeake, Black Eddie, Kevin Kidd and now paddy downey

Enough said. They deserve all they get - People who never succeed at Bellaghy in Management  - add that with the players who they took from Bellaghy reserves - 

Bottom line is that Cavan are not good enough. You can do all the traininig you want but when a group of losers like there is in Cavan at the minute get the heat turned up on them they melt and quit. Hence the reason why Cassidy was not liked!! wait until big Grimley starts telling a few home truths they will run him out of town as well

Sounds like Keoghan is not a manager that will gain respect....up in court facing charges.....Maybe McElkennon n cassidy werent that bad after all

Stand corrected Slim

But still stick with my point - he wudnt get on every team in Ulster

Slim

You are getting carried away with yourself! Yes hes a good player but a bit light to be included in every team

Ballinderry - McGuckian, McOscar, Crozier/Wilson - dont think so
bELLAGHY - mCgOLDRICK, O'Neill, Doherty/McShane

St Galls - McRory, Brady, McLean

Cross - Bellew, Kernan, Hughes


Are you telling me Slim that he would get on any of the above - well if he would why the hell has Jody Gormley not picked him for the county - oh thats right he wouldnt know anythinh.

So Slim dont get carried away - Hes a good wee player that had a decent year. A bit early to be making sweeping statements about him -time enough in 3/4 years before you could make a decent judgement - that is if you could actually make one

Kevin O Boyle is a gud young player but Slim - he was by no means your best player. I thought decent clubs didnt hand out them awards!!

Are you telling me that if he had of got injured you wouldnt have won the championship

Is someone winding me up about Joe Irwin

Please dont embarass yourself your obviously from N Derry. You forgot about Big Plunkett, Brian Kealy, Richard Ferris