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He never said anything after his Limerick side assaulted Waterford!

Starting to think like a winner would be a help, Fergal, instead of adapting a defeatist attitude. Don't be afraid until you're made afraid.
For the rest of the hurling counties in the wake of yesterday, next year starts today.

More than just that I'm afraid, every county needs to get their structures right! Do you honestly believe Limerick went out expecting to lose? KK are light years ahead of everybody when it comes to club structures. It's not about getting the best 20 guys in the county and giving them the best coaching etc! Wexford train as hard and do as much gym work as KK like evry other county but KK has such a competitive club championship that these guys are use to developing their skills in a hard hitting and full blooded games, in most other counties counties the county players have time and space on the ball in the club championship.

okay finishing up at work for the week so i'll throw my prediction in for what its worth

Kilkenny to win easy

Kilkenny 2:18
Limerick 1:12

Not far away,

that was the main problem with the hurling final, as anthony daly (IMHO the best hurling pundit for sheer enthusiam) said it was all too predictable.

but nonetheless a terrific hurling championship, worthy champions and gallant losers,

Also the form of Tipp, Cork, Galway & Dublin at underage suggests the great Kilkenny will be tested plenty in the years to come.

Problem is- Tipp Galway and Cork always have strong underage teams, but Tipp and Galway never deliver on that talent! Those Tipp boys will spend the next year celebrating their win with free pints in every pub in the county! plus it's a massive step up from being an underage star to a senior star. Never judge KK on their underage talent, I've played many times against KK county underage teams and there was always just a puck of the ball between us, the club structure is fantastic in KK and guys seem to improve leaps and bounds in their early twenties - while the rest of us are out boozing and picking up women. I honestly can't see their dominance being broken.

Waterford and Cork gone.....I don't think so. Cork will win at least one AI in the next 3 years and Waterford have at least another one or two years in them. Also Waterford are a much better team than Limerick and would have done much better today.

Cork are gone for a few years, could/should lose some crucial players due to retiremnet, frankly the news guys that have came in over the last two years are not up to replacing them. Waterford are just not up there! Bit like the Irish rugby team, they are either great or terrible!

As I expected, Limerick just didn't have the ability to come anywhere near the cats. All this shit about Waterford taking KK is pure shit!! Waterford would have lost by more than Limerick did today, purely because KK would have played in a higher gear than they did today!! All this muck about Munster hurling, It's in a bad state and getting worse - Cork gone for a few years, Waterford gone also.. Tipp are the only ones that can do anything but they are so messed up in the head!!!! currently they are arguing about who to select on this manager selection group!!

This you Rocky?

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I know he will miss the Under 21 but surely it should be a game ban, at the end of the day if Dublin were not in the U21 final this would be a meaningless ban!

Everyone knows my old view on Limerick but John Allen has made me change my ways. It really hit home how I am every bit as evil as al-Qaeda.

So my view on the final is - whoever John Allen tips I'll go with that.

None of these stipulations from leinster like Galway cant get any home games (which was the reason Galway gave for not joinging leinster before before but was bizarrely ignored by the media), Just open draw, first team gets home advantage, simple.

The Leinster championship is run on a neutral venue basis so I can see why it wasn't allowed!

Wexford on the way back up..............................................................shit creek !!

So you when we arrive there

Good God, goes to show the rubbish that the Examiner churns out.

Put Kilkenny into Munster.
Let them try it for a few years .
If they find it too tough put them back into Leinster.

Stupid idea but to be honest I'd love to see it just so KK could prove that they would dominate Munster as they do Leinster. Munster teams are slipping back further behind KK but in their own tunnel visioned mind they can't admit it.

To be honest Munster would never agree to any changes in the championship concerning the removal of the Munster championship. I think they should leave Munster alone and let them continue with what they have.

Enter Antrim and Galway into Leinster but play the championship on a league format with the top two going into the Leinster/Connacht/Ulster final

Kilkenny
Galway
Wexford
Dublin
Offaly
Antrim
Laois
Westmeath

Great interview with Considine on Off the Ball on Newstalk.

Both barrells on "mafia type person" and his sleveens on CCB.

He didn't hold back, McDevitt sounded like he was taken totally by surprise by Considines frankness

Well i'm a fan of the league but in a packed calender maybe the league is something that could give way, only if someone can come up with a better championship format.  then maybe have a longer more drawn out provincial + all ireland series and allow clubs more weekends during the summer. overall less games maybe, but more meaningful ones.

Why not adopt the same format as the Camogie, they play in a two group format but retain the provincial championship as an add-on to the All-Ireland series. I'm sure there could be some way of tweaking it so that the provincial could still mean something in terms of the All-Ireland

Seems very harsh considering the players at his disposal at the moment, methinks theres more to it then results.

Agree, I thought they would have given him another year considering what he had to work with.. Do you reckon the rumours of Fitzy going to coach Tipp was enough to make them panic and decide to get rid of Tony in hope to lure Fitzy away from Tipp into the Clare hotseat?