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#16
General discussion / Re: Student Finance
February 27, 2024, 11:50:13 AM
Quote from: thebigfella on February 27, 2024, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Emmett Greene on February 27, 2024, 09:43:20 AMI think the whole University thing is getting too expensive nowadays. And it's not really necessary for a lot of careers/vocations.

I get the need for it for some intense subjects like Medicine/Pharmacy where the student is also partnering  with hospitals and so on for training as they go along.

But for subjects like IT, industry is copping on and offering apprenticeships along with semi employment for a few years. 3/4 years at Uni for IT is not needed. That's why employers happily take people with any degree who did a 1yr conversion course for IT.

I get the arguments for Uni, life experience, fun, making new friends, keeping employment options open with degrees like Maths but it's a lot of debt for a young person to be burdened with for the first few decades of their working life.

This could not be farther from the truth. IT is such a broad definition and technology is constantly evolving; a degree shows some ability to learn independently and some computer science topics just are too much on the cutting edge for an apprenticeship. Plus some of these apprenticeships are taught by people that should have been roaded by the industry years ago. Also, IT conversion courses require an undergraduate degree and most people I've met that took that route come from STEM subjects.

The vast majority of apprenticeships are set up to produce cheap low skilled coders rather than quality resources with an understanding of the nuances of building modern platforms.

Are university Computer Science degrees  cutting edge these days? If they are things have changed a lot.

If you can convert to an IT course in one year you can learn everything you need to know for industry in one year. Your previous undergraduate course is largely irrelevant.
#17
General discussion / Re: Student Finance
February 27, 2024, 09:43:20 AM
I think the whole University thing is getting too expensive nowadays. And it's not really necessary for a lot of careers/vocations.

I get the need for it for some intense subjects like Medicine/Pharmacy where the student is also partnering  with hospitals and so on for training as they go along.

But for subjects like IT, industry is copping on and offering apprenticeships along with semi employment for a few years. 3/4 years at Uni for IT is not needed. That's why employers happily take people with any degree who did a 1yr conversion course for IT.

I get the arguments for Uni, life experience, fun, making new friends, keeping employment options open with degrees like Maths but it's a lot of debt for a young person to be burdened with for the first few decades of their working life.