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An average team doesn't reach back to back Ulster club finals and potentially winning back to back.

See they just posted two other roles:

Head of recruitment and scout covering county Derry area....

Shows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

GPOs? Fair played to them.

Without the official title yes.

Shows how little togetherness and community their is in their club, theres a number of people in my own club do this without without having to be asked or taking money.

And im sure many other clubs are the same.

As I have no experience of how these things are decided, however the natural lift of the elbow after the impact I suspect would be enough for the ref to justify his decision in hindsight and the ban to stick

As much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.

I wouldn't imagine so, if the ref report states about the elbow and video evidence disproves it, this means the ref may have give the red card for a fair reason which he thought happened. But should be lifted because the ref was wrong.

As much as I believe the red card should not have been given I would be extremely surprised if it were to be lifted, however I suspect a lot will depend on what is in the ref's report. If he says he believes Tomas led with the elbow or intended to lead with the elbow then it sticks, if he says hands up I made the wrong call it gets lifted

But surely with the video evidence that he didn't lead with his elbow then it should be lifted. Ref's report or not.

[Arva (Cavan)]

Ulster JFC Semi Final Results

Blackhill (Monaghan) 2-10 Fintona (Tyrone) 0-07
Arva (Cavan) 1-11 Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 0-04

Pretends to be shocked...

[Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with]

He's been there for a few more years under Cassidy

Personally speaking, one of the easiest managers to get on with

Doesn't surprise me one of the nicest men about, you have opened a can of worms however, who was the hardest to get along with and you would have heard you had to ref and rolled your eyes.

Past managers of course couldn't be on here naming managers you don't like who are in current charge.

Lets be totally honest the only reason what so ever this has happened is to avoid St Enda's dropping to Div 2.

There's no logical reason behind it. If anything its making the County weaker.

On another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

What is the thinking behind this?  As you say, if our best Intermediate team is way off the pace, what will weaker sides be like?   

Im guessing there is some logic or strategic to this? is it to improve the senior league somehow?

Maybe the only logic behind it is so certain teams don't have to drop down cough st endas cough

If anything it makes Div 1 weaker cant see how the top teams would benefit off playing weaker teams.

On another note, What the f+ck is the point in the restructuring of the leagues, all its going to do is make our intermediate and junior leagues weaker, going to lead to more dead rubber games at senior level.

Our "best" intermediate teams got hammered by a poor glenuillin side what the hell will our 4th best team not be like...

https://thesaffrongael.com/2023/11/12/213299/amp/

Please see 4th image of link exact moment contact is made, very clear no contact was made with the player at all. So all this elbow to the head bullshit can stop. No red. We have every right to feel hard done going by that image.

As for Tomas' I highly doubt he went to the Irish news looking to moan.

Onto next year. As for glen can't see them getting beat in ulster but unsure if they can topple the crokes

[Killyclogher]

When did Killyclogher win?

What I do notice in Ulster or further on, is the refereeing is totally different to what you are used too (good or bad)

Good prep would be to have games ref'd by the Ulster/national referee's in challenge games leading up to an Ulster run, Cargin have to gamble in that regard and should always be preparing for Ulster, rather than just winning Antrim, that may come across as being arrogant, but the reality is, at the minute, there isn't much to beat in Antrim.

Intercounty referee's are constantly being assessed, those assessments determine whether he gets another game, yellow cards that you wouldn't get in league games with 'normal' ref's will happen in the Ulster games.. 

They didnt, slaughtneil beat them in 2016.

[fouled mouthed]

Tomas' red simply wasn't a red, ref had no view of it for a start the linesman give it, Tomas movement with his arm is a natural movement with you shoulder, this talk about the elbow to the head is just false his arm moves in a natural position when taking a hit. If it is any other player on the pitch its not a red the fact McGuckian is 5 ft nothing it makes it look worse. He runs directly at tomas what else is he supposed to do get out of the road? The main reason he got sent off is where it happened on the pitch right infront of the glen supporters who all went mad. Another Point if connor Glass makes this tackle nothing would be given. Clearest decision of the day is Glass' deliberate drag down stopping a counter attack but nothing was given because it is connor glass. Besides the awful red card decision. John Carron's yellow card and the 13 yard free given against Justin Crozier was a clear indication early in the game Glen were going to get all the decisions in their favour. Strange the one people who seen it as a clear red are glen supporters or Derry people from other clubs who bum up glen which i find strange. I would be happy to see someone else from Antrim do well but not if their support is as arrogant, ignorant and fouled mouthed as that glen support. I attend alot of Derry games and have always said it their support is rotten.

Just very dishearten as Cargin supporter the performance we put in with 14 what maybe could have been with 15 on the pitch. But that's football onto next year.

You must not be at any of the games I do    Baldy wee cnut seems to be the staple language 

Come on MR2 I would not shout such a thing    

[which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.]

Cargin are at this level, of that there is no doubt.

They have got beaten by a very good team past couple of years and things certainly didn't work in their favour yesterday- rightly or wrongly.

I don't see any imminent challenge for them in Antrim which means they continue to experience Ulster and the experience of being there many years just further plants them in that mix.

Hopefully see them break serious ground very soon - they really are not far away from it.

They need to start winning games. They have won 7 of the last 9 Antrim championships, but only won 1 game in Ulster. That's not a dig either, just with Kobo, Crozier, Laverty, Tomas, mick, Paul, Gerard McCann all ageing, Cargin won't be getting any closer year on year.

Cargin's record isn't great in Ulster but outside of 2016 and 2019, we have been knocked out by the eventual winners and will likely be the same case this year.