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#16
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
August 17, 2022, 02:29:12 PM
United are a laughing stock at the minute.

They're being linked with a new signing every few hours.
#17
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 17, 2022, 10:58:31 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 17, 2022, 10:32:29 AM
Quote from: Throw It Up Ref on August 17, 2022, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 17, 2022, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 17, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
I think the Michaela McAreavey chant this summer was a watershed moment.

Sing songs are not being tolerated anymore by anyone. Even in my own experience from one's at work, friends etc, they would have went to the Wolfe Tones unapologetically in previous years, yet now cringe at the thought of it.
Can we really ignore the Fleadh and Wolfe Tones chants after the (completely justified) outrage at Dundonald Orange Hall?
Unbelievable to think there are nationalists out there who are so conned by the latest media facilitated "unionist fury" campaign, that they would actually attempt to draw an equivalence between the singing of rebel songs and the singing of a sectarian song celebrating the murder of an innocent woman on her honeymoon.

Not sure I agree with you there Snapchat. It's not being conned, it's being able to look at things objectively. We can't cry that singing of that song in Dundonald was abhorrent and in the same breath sing songs that glorify a terrorist organisation that killed hundreds of civilians. Murder is murder
You might call the IRA a terrorist organisation. I most certainly would not. They were no more a terrorist organisation than were the Volunteers of 1916 or the Tan War. But that's neither here nor there - singing along to a rebel song is not the same as singing a song which gloating about a death of a Catholic girl who was murdered on her honeymoon. If you really believe that they are equivalents, I really do despair.

You're fully entitled to hold that opinion. Not sure why you would despair at what my beliefs are. Everyone's beliefs are formed through their upbringing and life experiences.

IRA murdered innocent civilians in the protestant community (and our own)  - Nationalists and Republicans sing songs glorifying them

Catholic girl murdered on her honeymoon - Unionists / Loyalists singing songs glorifying them
#18
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 17, 2022, 10:26:29 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 17, 2022, 10:04:51 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 17, 2022, 09:44:19 AM
I think the Michaela McAreavey chant this summer was a watershed moment.

Sing songs are not being tolerated anymore by anyone. Even in my own experience from one's at work, friends etc, they would have went to the Wolfe Tones unapologetically in previous years, yet now cringe at the thought of it.
Can we really ignore the Fleadh and Wolfe Tones chants after the (completely justified) outrage at Dundonald Orange Hall?
Unbelievable to think there are nationalists out there who are so conned by the latest media facilitated "unionist fury" campaign, that they would actually attempt to draw an equivalence between the singing of rebel songs and the singing of a sectarian song celebrating the murder of an innocent woman on her honeymoon.

Not sure I agree with you there Snapchat. It's not being conned, it's being able to look at things objectively. We can't cry that singing of that song in Dundonald was abhorrent and in the same breath sing songs that glorify a terrorist organisation that killed hundreds of civilians. Murder is murder
#19
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
August 17, 2022, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: gallsman on August 17, 2022, 06:08:30 AM
Elon Musk to the rescue. Enjoy the ride!

I don't think you can take anything Elon Musk writes on twitter seriously. The man has a strange sense of humor.
#20
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 16, 2022, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: marty34 on August 16, 2022, 03:05:40 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 16, 2022, 01:57:24 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 16, 2022, 01:40:42 PM
When ever ye get round to scaling down ir stopping mimicking "Loyalist" carry on can the first step be to abolish those godawful "republican flute bands"?
They're an insult to our thousands of years of great Irish music heritage.
Absolutely, they're horrendous

I agree 100%.

Fully agree. Penalty of death for anyone found guilty
#21
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 16, 2022, 09:17:40 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 09:04:31 AM
Quote from: Throw It Up Ref on August 16, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 08:33:45 AM
I see the Derry bonfire making the headlines, aping the 12th bonfires...

Crazy own goals

Own goals is the most is the most apt way to describe it.

Unionism was on its knees 3 months ago, slowly but surely through incident after incident they're being handed political points. You can see the DUP's game clearly they never intended on forming an executive. They're aiming to make it to October for another election hopefully picking up as much support as they can regaining the first minister title. At the minute it's being made far too easy for them.

I said earlier, I think some parties on the nationalist side actually don't want a UI

I'm not saying I agree with with you but our politicians are there to line their pockets. Same as everyone in a job. A UI would do two things:


  • Remove one of the corner stone aims of their political party making them somewhat directionless having to deal with real complex issues as opposed to the current tit for tat outrage politics we see at the minute

  • Instigate a complete restructure of the political institutes on the Island possibly resulting in less available seats

#22
General discussion / Re: Feile an Phobail
August 16, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 16, 2022, 08:33:45 AM
I see the Derry bonfire making the headlines, aping the 12th bonfires...

Crazy own goals

Own goals is the most is the most apt way to describe it.

Unionism was on its knees 3 months ago, slowly but surely through incident after incident they're being handed political points. You can see the DUP's game clearly they never intended on forming an executive. They're aiming to make it to October for another election hopefully picking up as much support as they can regaining the first minister title. At the minute it's being made far too easy for them.

#23
General discussion / Re: Cost Of Living
August 11, 2022, 10:44:53 AM
Quote from: seafoid on August 11, 2022, 06:55:18 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 10, 2022, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 10, 2022, 02:56:07 PM
Inflation could be over in 12-18 months.
At some level of interest it will stop.
It's not a permanent change.

Does deflation ever happen?
it does. We had d of the last deflation for most of the last decade. There is too much debt . It will probably happen when interest rates go down again., say at 2%

Would it not entirely depend on what is driving you're inflation? The basic economics are if you have high inflation you increase interest rates to discourage spending until it's under control again. The problem at the minute is that inflation is being driven by soaring energy costs making everything else more costly to produce. The governments don't want to see inflation slowing until it's had the effect of greatly reducing any borrowing during the pandemic.
#24
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
August 10, 2022, 02:56:56 PM
What are the playoff spots? How many straight up and down?
#25
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
August 09, 2022, 01:42:58 PM
Quote from: consigliere on August 09, 2022, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 08, 2022, 10:53:45 PM
Quote from: consigliere on August 08, 2022, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on August 07, 2022, 10:31:44 AM
Four Sundays in the year isn't too much to ask. Fridays are good at the start but with light fading becomes a rushing match to fit them in. I'd say Sundays suit more people than Saturdays. Lot of boys work on Saturday evenings and there's a lot (particularly reserves) who play soccer on a Saturday.

The GAA should not be accomodating soccer when scheduling games.

All well in theory, but if you put players into a position where they have to choose between the two and in the end a significant amount decide to go with playing soccer over Gaelic football then it's likely some teams will fail to field, depriving game time not only of their own players that are willing to play but also their opponents. Communication between all involved is needed.

Slippery slope. Over time this will give soccer clubs all the power, the GAA clubs need to make a firm stance early.

What are you taking a stance against? Young athletes that want to play multiple sports?
#26
GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin v Kerry AISF
July 06, 2022, 02:01:30 PM
Quote from: Hound on July 06, 2022, 08:08:05 AM
Anyone ever have a 'hairline fracture'?

This seems to be Con's injury. Presumably on a leg/foot/ankle. Happened around 3 weeks ago.

Would have a bit of experience in it. It would take 12 weeks from the incident to a full recovery. It's the sort of thing were if the player was far enough along you could strap them up and get them through a big game but it would put them back.
#27
Quote from: weareros on July 06, 2022, 01:45:25 PM
Intriguing game. Two of the best and most versatile forwards in Ireland in Walsh and McGuigan. I think both teams will sit back, play cagey, hope to score on counter, but that would be worse for Derry because I feel Galway have more players that can pick off long points in that defensive type of game. Both teams have had a tougher route in that Derry beat 3 division 1 teams and Galway beat 2 plus 1 new promoted team (not that we were any great shakes). But well earned spots. I'll sit on the fence a bit more on this one before I enter predictions.

If Galway come out and try to play they're normal game and take risks, Derry could take them for 10 points. I don't mean that Derry are a far superior team but they will punish any team that coughs up possession. Wouldn't be surprised to see a really cage 50 minutes or so.
#28
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
July 06, 2022, 01:51:38 PM
Quote from: Goals_Will_Come on July 06, 2022, 12:58:19 PM
There is little or no doubt the best thing the CCC have done in recent times has been the move to Friday evening games.

Agreed 100%.

I was sitting at a wedding on a Saturday a few weeks ago watching everyone enjoy themselves and I thought to myself that for years there would have been a large portion of the attendees not drinking, watching what they eat and leaving early for the sake of a league game the next day. Madness when you look back on it.
#29
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 28, 2022, 03:09:25 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on June 28, 2022, 02:52:26 PM
Quote from: Throw It Up Ref on June 28, 2022, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: square_ball on June 28, 2022, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 28, 2022, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 27, 2022, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on June 27, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
Round of league games on both the 15th and 17th july? Would that not be the one week in the whole calendar you would think would have no games let alone two  :-\ ::) that's bound to be peak holiday season for club players surely

Double round 29th and 31st July as per website.

Where is 15th and 17th info from?
There is no fixtures on the websitre past this friday as far as I can see.
Why only the one week break? surely this year we had a little more time to play with than previous years?

If you click onto the league table then click onto your club you will see fixtures up until the end of the season not including championship obviously. Double round as Norf said on 29th and 31st July.

Thanks Square Ball. That's been wrecking my head how to find them!

Double fixtures on a Friday and Sunday are a serious physical demand on players. I'm not sure if there's any other sport where it would happen, although I could be wrong.

Final round of fixtures is September 2nd with the Ulster club kicking off November 6th. You would like to think the CCC would be giving teams a free week after the final league fixtures and before the 1st round of championship and having the championship final two weeks before the Ulster club. That only leaves 6 weeks to run off the Championship which you wouldn't want reduced much more. Not sure where else you would fit these games in.

Unfortunately the Friday night travel from one side of the county to another is a downside of the Friday night games. I think everyone prefers having the games on a Friday though as opposed to a Sunday?

According to the Tyrone website the double round of fixtures is on 29 and 31 July, not 15 & 17 July. The fixture for the 15th goes ahead as normal which is absolutely ridiculous as it is holiday high season for that 1 week each year

The County Board appear to have changed the two week holiday break this year to 1st July - 15 July. I could be wrong but I believe the break normally occurs from the weekend of 12th for two weeks?
#30
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 28, 2022, 01:30:41 PM
Quote from: square_ball on June 28, 2022, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on June 28, 2022, 09:14:49 AM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on June 27, 2022, 11:23:12 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on June 27, 2022, 10:40:30 PM
Round of league games on both the 15th and 17th july? Would that not be the one week in the whole calendar you would think would have no games let alone two  :-\ ::) that's bound to be peak holiday season for club players surely

Double round 29th and 31st July as per website.

Where is 15th and 17th info from?
There is no fixtures on the websitre past this friday as far as I can see.
Why only the one week break? surely this year we had a little more time to play with than previous years?

If you click onto the league table then click onto your club you will see fixtures up until the end of the season not including championship obviously. Double round as Norf said on 29th and 31st July.

Thanks Square Ball. That's been wrecking my head how to find them!

Double fixtures on a Friday and Sunday are a serious physical demand on players. I'm not sure if there's any other sport where it would happen, although I could be wrong.

Final round of fixtures is September 2nd with the Ulster club kicking off November 6th. You would like to think the CCC would be giving teams a free week after the final league fixtures and before the 1st round of championship and having the championship final two weeks before the Ulster club. That only leaves 6 weeks to run off the Championship which you wouldn't want reduced much more. Not sure where else you would fit these games in.

Unfortunately the Friday night travel from one side of the county to another is a downside of the Friday night games. I think everyone prefers having the games on a Friday though as opposed to a Sunday?