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#16
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2022
August 23, 2022, 07:48:13 AM
It's that time of the year where Josephs get all excited before exiting in a heroic two point defeat.  Graigue think they are back but that's every year since 1965.  Ballyroanabbey talk about 92.  O Dempsey's are just O Dempsey's.  Courtwood and St Man's realize they are just making up the numbers.  Portlaoise dream of the good old days and Port win a 3rd County in a row. 

Laois Championship and we love it


#17
Kilcavan #futureisbright
#18
Laois / Re: 2022 National Football League
March 27, 2022, 11:48:36 PM
No fault of Billy's or Chris's you must be joking they took the job made an absolute balls of it, stuck Ross in at every chance they could.   

Complete disaster
#19
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Football Championship 2022
December 01, 2021, 12:05:04 AM
Would he get a Senior Club in Laois, man has a neck like a jockeys bollox.

Presume Sarsfields weren't rang for a reference.
#20
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2021
September 24, 2021, 01:21:20 AM
I'd guess by the amount sniffing round this isn't a bad Laois Team. 
#21
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2021
September 23, 2021, 09:11:18 PM
John Sugrue
P J Dempsey
Padraig Clancy
Kevin Doogue
Donnacha Phelan
Eoin Kearns

I think all of them expressed an interest but then Eddie did a fine Job getting beaten by Wicklow, so the review must have been positive from Fergal.
#22
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 27, 2020, 07:11:02 AM
Cork a bastion of Financial probity,  20 Million over 4-5 years in a pandemic.  Maybe not widely overspending on a Stadium might have been a better idea.   Don't think Eddie goes to Dublin but stranger things have happened. 
#23
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 22, 2020, 11:13:46 AM
Seriously Delusional
#24
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 19, 2020, 12:18:11 AM
No eagerly awaiting next year's Leinster Championship,  Hurling fraternity have to be kept happy.
#25
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 15, 2020, 08:23:50 PM
When you can put a couple of good competitive U17/U20 teams out, but if you think Eddie can kick on fair play.  More likely it goes in the what if category which has been going on for most of the last 104 years.


Can't wait to see what the next Messiah does, We are some county to worship at the feet of false prophets.  No substitute for patience and hard work which we seldom want or like in Laois.
#26
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 15, 2020, 02:47:02 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 15, 2020, 01:47:16 PM
Nice skirting around the issues.
Not too many have suggested a blank cheque for the senior set up (I certainly haven't).

Back to your post.

1) Was Cheddar's back room team funded by the CB in it's entirety?
2) Was Cheddar paid the going rate for his time and involvement (compared to Kelly, Brennan, Creedon, Quirke etc)
3) Was a plan he presented to restructure our approach to juvenile coaching rejected by the CB?
4) The glamour you speak of, hinting that CP and EB went for the limelight. Are you for real? Are you at all familiar with the results, atmosphere, position and perception of the Laois senior hurlers prior to the appointment of both?
5) The attitude of "we are doing ok for our size" and "we are spending roughly the same as similar sized counties" is basically what everybody has been calling out. It's defeatist, short sighted and lacking in ambition. Throwing money is not the answer. Striving to improve is. There is no silver bullet , but lying around the fence of the COE, assembling in the tunnel of OMP, clapping each other on the back, and generally sneering at all and anybody from outside who has an idea or "gets above his station" certainly won't achieve much. You seem desperate for us to remain as we are. So do several CB officials. Recklessness, no. Ambition, yes.

To all the above questions has Cheddar ever said that he was messed about by the Laois County Board ?  He may not have been happy that everything he wanted he did not get.  But he won the vast majority of his arguments with the County Board. 
#27
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 15, 2020, 02:16:00 PM
As far as I know Cheddar is not owed any money by the County Board.  I presume at times he put his hand in his own pocket for spending not agreed to by the County Board.  But I don't think in the finish up Cheddar was owed any money.  Eddie Brennan is well looked after in relation to any Laois Manager bar Micko. 

It's not defeatist to run a County within Budget allowing for improvements in Infrastructure development & County Teams.  Of course the County can improve Hurling but it takes time and effort.  Cheddar is welcome back anytime to volunteer his time like any other CB member.  What people seem to want here is to run unsustainable deficits to possibly get some improvements in Hurling.

#28
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 15, 2020, 01:11:21 PM
Was Cheddar out of pocket ? or is that just a perception.  Of course there is mistakes at County Board level, Clonad has said why not have a GPO for Portlaoise Parish. Which Code, Club does the GPO serve ?  Has any Club in Laois made moves to appoint their own GPO,  there is 50% funding available.  County Senior Teams while they do have to be funded are in most instances a waste of money ( My own opinion) the only people who benefit are the "professional setup".  In 2019 we spent 813,000 on Inter County Teams that's well up the table on Inter County Spending.  I would think there is a certain naivety on the part of County Managers as to what is available money wise.

You can see the argument here if extra money becomes available both Hurling & Football want it.  Senior Managers want it but in all reality the best return on Investment is at Underage but you are unlikely to see the results any time soon.  It also requires consistent investment and strategy.  In my view Cheddar should never appointed himself Laois Manager and should have moved into administration but again that's the dirty work for little or no praise.  But it is where progress can be made,  We would all like the glamour of Eddie Brennan's job but how much can he achieve ?   Progress is slow and time consuming and in reality how far Laois can rise is open to question.

If you look at our spend on Inter County Teams, we would be high mid-table (very much in line with our population size)  the fact we are a dual county is very much against us.  But alot of Counties and Clubs are spending unsustainably and do face problems in the long term. 
#29
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 14, 2020, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on November 14, 2020, 10:08:17 PM
Today's Clare result put it in sharp perspective,how close we actually are to becoming a top 6 team

Brennan sees it

The panel sees it

And so do most of the Laois gaa public

My wish for 2021

That Eddie commits and that every player that he deems fit to serve the cause of laois hurling does likewise.

Kilkenny
Limerick
Galway
Cork
Tipperary
Waterford
Dublin
Clare
That leaves us and Wexford possibly we are 8/10 more like 10/10.   How's the Wexford project going,  all going well keep sending more Money.  We are basically where we always are but the delusional want to play out fairy tales.  Fair enough stick money into Minor & U20 get results build on them then start to push it into Senior.  Eddie gets to pontificate but don't doubt the excuses are ready for when the plan doesn't work out. 
#30
Laois / Re: Leinster Senior Hurling Championship 2020
November 14, 2020, 10:50:17 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on November 14, 2020, 10:36:48 AM
Just looking at some stuff on Social Media and there are a couple of small things we would need to get realistic about.

Splitting the pot and fundraising separately for hurling and football isn't and can't be an option. I think hurling would probably suffer here.

Contributions to a supporters fund would be welcome. But if people would elect to do this instead of purchasing €130 tickets etc we are back to square one.
The CB should certainly be more proactive, but it's not quite as simple as some on social media are making out.

People need to calm a little.

Finally some sense,  I await the Vichy County Board for Laois.  When is the coup d etat  ?  Mad to see some former Laois GAA employees throwing grenades on here .  Its a pity they could not solve the problems when they were in the job.