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A shocker smurfy. And the fact Monday night is only being used for a senior and intermediate double header in newry is mind boggling.
What are ballyholland and bridge players expected to do when they arrive? I'd say all spaces in car park will be gone by the time they start arriving. Point and stone supporters along with their players will have spaces filled and will be starting to park around burren at that stage.

Burren kilcoo looks very tasty and both teams will fancy themselves of course. Kilcoo to win this one.
Point and stone is another tight one. I expect the point just to have too much for the stone.
Clonduff and carryduff will be tight again but carryduff youth and pace could take them through.
Bridge and ballyholland will be another battle. Ballyholland to nick It I reckon.

When Down u20s won the Leo Murphy Cup, there was a single post here congratulating the team but making no mention of the management.  It's pretty difficult to see how this amounted to eulogising anyone or claiming that Deegan was the new messiah of Down football. There's no doubt that our underage record has been very poor for many years, and probably hit rock bottom in 2016 when our then u21s lost by 22 points to Armagh in Newry.  Yesterday, our u20s were away to Tyrone, probably the favourites for the competition, and lost by two points. Some of our other development squads have been getting decent results of late, so, while we have a very long way to go, we are certainly not in the position we were three or four seasons ago.

Derry got to the all Ireland final and beaten by a David Clifford inspired Kerry while Cavan were beaten by a David Clifford inspired Kerry in the semi final at that age at minor level so they would be the favourites at u20s for ulster.

The silence before the Mayo game is nearly as bad as the silence afterwards. Our 'big' players really let us down today. Mc Kernan is well and truly finished costing us dearly both at the back and going forward, Harrison was well held, O'Hare was anonymous like he has been all Summer, Darren gave us so much as always but was rash and got a stupid black. Mooney kept us in the show and was the only man going direct. Our keeper is still a disaster, costing us scores again today and I wonder does the manager ever get anyone to practice frees. The huge investment, financially, in Tally has shown a limited improvement this year but he has blooded a number of new players who will benefit from their experience and I still need to be convinced that this way of playing football is best for us and suits the players we have available to play it. In must say that I have never seen a Down team yap as much at referees, umpires and linesmen in my life.  I mean, it's a mans game, get on with it you were doing the same to Mayo and they never questioned anything. Mayo gave us a lesson in this respect and our players have alot to learn with Tally's Tyrone tactics certainly not working today.

4/10 for the year and I can't see us getting out of Division 3, if the changes then go through for the championship by my reckoning we will in a 'B' championship next year.

You are one clown

Surely Glenn would be clear favourites for that game?

For what game?? Saval?? It could be 20+ years from Glenn have beaten Saval in Saval and managing this without Niall McParland the 2 Millars,Denis Murtagh and more is some achievement. Credit where it's due to the players and management who have started the season extremely well. But tougher tasks lie ahead no doubt.

Will these lads be back later in the year??? Otherwise you can't say they were without them. Saval could say they were without Niall madine etc. In that case

They won the dalton or cor na og a couple of years back beating maghera in the final. Think Jim McCartan took the team. Young lad McGovern from ballyholland was on the team. I also know they'd a lot of their teams coming up short in numerous finals and semi finals. Mcaleenans year group from the point was star studded from what I remember with all on Armagh or down county minor panel. Treanor from burren his team the year later was very similar with most on county minors. Maybe star studded is the wrong word but they all played county minor football so the ability was there.

Tell that to anyone who has played MacRory at the Abbey for the last ten years.

Shocking that Jody still gets to take this team. Since hogan success has yet to pass the quarter final stage. This is a huge under achievement by the school and the one common denominator is Jody to be fair. Many of their teams have had success down the school and then Jody takes over and it doesn't go as well. Maybe someone else should get a go within the school???

What decade you in target man??? Or should we say century???

Downjim- unhappy burren over in ballyholland yesterday rumour has it?? Any truth to these rumours?

Hardly downs benefit cuan if he's playing for carryduff? If it was down's benefit he'd be playing for down. Still a disgrace that carryduff are happy enough for their own players to sit on the bench and not get any football but take in other lads from other clubs and give them football. What are carryduff gonna do with their seniors this year? Heard they are looking Donal o'hare in. Wonder will they get him?
Fact of the matter is east down football bar kilcoo is in a shambolic state currently and this is only going to continue and the gap is only getting bigger.

5 of the 11 clubs in ACFL1 are from East Down.

I believe they'll be joined in the SFC by Liatroim, Bredagh and Carryduff.

I'm not sure what you use for your baramoter, but it would appear to be somewhat flawed.

Brilliant 5 of 11 in division 1. Really going well then. Kilcoo leading the flag so east down is brilliant. Castlewellan couldn't even have their own u21 team they had to amalgamate. A big club like this shouldn't be happening. Byransfords senior are going backwards as is their youth with no championship winning teams in recent years. Downpatrick are just about in division 1 but would most certainly not say they are excelling currently. Loughanisland in fairness seem to be up and coming. With a young senior team performing very well in last years championship however with the gormley appointment I can only see them playing 15 men behind the ball football.

Clonduff brought in players for u21 for years. Carryduff allowed Laverty to play for them to benefit the lad and the boys around him got to play in an Ulster final. What better way to improve your senior team than get your young players playing at the top level? Even better news is they have 13 boys back next year to do it all again.

What about the other 10 carryduff lads that were sitting on the bench??? Maybe I'm wrong but my club try to develop and improve every player within the club and not just the "best" players. Just think if Burren had have taken that strategy then Kevin mckernan probably wouldn't be playing football

Hardly downs benefit cuan if he's playing for carryduff? If it was down's benefit he'd be playing for down. Still a disgrace that carryduff are happy enough for their own players to sit on the bench and not get any football but take in other lads from other clubs and give them football. What are carryduff gonna do with their seniors this year? Heard they are looking Donal o'hare in. Wonder will they get him?
Fact of the matter is east down football bar kilcoo is in a shambolic state currently and this is only going to continue and the gap is only getting bigger.

Down won a good amount of their own kick outs ye idiot. Yes they didn't clean catch them in the air but they were broken and the down lads won the majority of the breaks. Was evident this was a tactic of downs and it frustrated the Donegal players greatly. Good few short kick outs also taken today but I dunno maybe yous don't realise but down are in division 3 and Donegal in division 1. Both teams performed well below their capabilities obviously. Downs biggest problem today was their ability to be clinical in front of goal no doubt about it. Should have had two goals, even the ones they'd too many fist passes they should've worked it out. Their point taking again was poor but bloody heck it's January. All about the league and aiming for promotion. The players by then should be really well prepared for what will be an interesting championship campaign I believe for this group as down will cause upsets and go far.
Anyone who believes different obviously not a down supporter.

No burren players on the current McKenna cup squad because the ones from last year are getting rested like the Mooney's and ohagans. There are also a couple of them on university squads including Steven fegan who's with uuj. Surely yas would know this if yas followed down football at all instead of typing crap on this all the time.

McCartan would be a huge boost for yous smurfy, would add to an ever improving team.

Dawson along with Mark Doran at the town. Another club

Clubs cannot force players to go to play for the county. It's about the want of the player. As I said before and I'll say again the boys who aren't there will win nothing with down and that's a fact so stop giving them the time of day whereas the boys that are there have a real chance of getting silverware this year. Yes surely would be great to have everyone putting their foot to the wheel but they aren't.

New lads in
Devlin Kilcoo
Kane Kilcoo
J Johnstone Kilcoo
McCarthy Saval
Havern saval
McClement Loughinisland
Mason Loughinisland
Brady Mayobridge
McClorey Mayobridge
Quinn Mayobridge
B O Hagen Clonduff back
Parr Rostrevor keeper
Francis bredagh
Burns Castlewellan
Harney Saul
Murnin Clonduff
Collins RGU


Old
McAleenan CPN
Donnelly Tullylish
Poland longstone
McKibbon Bryansford
R Johnstone Kilcoo
McArdle Annaclone
Wells Bryansford
O Hagen Clonduff
McGrady Downpatrick


Only 3 starters from last years squad on the panel o Hagen McArdle and Donnelly
No McKernan Mooney Harrison Maginn OHare and lots more
A very inexperienced squad to put out

Yas looking to move forward and bring new lads in to help us develop and become a better team???

No point picking the same lads Who've had a chance and proven not to be good enough. Can't believe rooney was even mentioned he's 30+ and hasn't been around with down squad for a few years. Mcclements from loughanisland was as exciting as any midfielder within the county last year and yas haven't gave the lad a mention. Talk about who's there and not the boys who aren't.

Get behind the bloody team for once and stop being so negative.

Personally I think it's brilliant the amount of new and young players in the squad and knowing the fact that there are also a lot of brilliant u20s involved with the senior squad also this year is something to be excited about.