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Carlow will be no pushovers,  would be worth going just to see Poachers' actions!!  He's a cute hoor, !

Carlow will be very tough to beat. 15 men behind the ball is tough to break down. they are an upcoming team. it will be a bad match to watch. unless tyrone get a good start and build a lead. then they can play ball out around the middle and force Carlow to come out of their defensive 15 men set up and chase the game which will free up space for tyrone.

a big start is very important for both teams here. If Carlow get an early lead of 3 or 4 points tyrone will struggle to come back and win that.

Pomeroy trillick and aghyaran all struggle without their county men. Other teams have a wee bit more depth to their panel such as errigal or coalisland. Good to see owen roes doing well without cathal McShane especially in division 2.

alot of the players haven't been in form. I would personally like to see more changes to create more competition. Rory Brennan in at half back could be an option. Harry loughran looked sharp up front when he came on against meath. Oneill had a good game in nets the last day. Has to stay in for the Carlow game.

[They can only use official footage]

If u caught on video striking a player you hardly a leg to stand on! Punishment should be doubled for wasting peoples time!

They can only use official footage. So if they suspend players based on something that was videoed from the stand on some c***ts 3310 they very much have a leg to stand on.

Official video?? Any video footage can be used as long as its deemed reliable and unedited

To be used in the gaa hearings it has to be official footage which they have. the game was videod from start to finish. Phone footage I believe can not be used in the gaa hearings. I had learnt this from another incident recently.

send me video footage of a tyrone man striking in this game and prove me wrong. I hope you can prove me wrong. there is plenty of evidence and footage of the other boys but.

was at the game and Amragh would be very close to deserving 10 suspensions. Armagh did all the fighting. I seen atleast 6 at the time striking. On 2 occasions with a tyrone player being held by an Armagh player and being struck by another. I didn't see any tyrone man throwing a punch nor backing up or standing up for their own team whilst watching them get beat up and out numbered. Although I didn't see a tyrone man striking in video footage or at the time, the goal keeper did throw the ball off the managers head (in retaliation for hitting a tyrone player) and the corner forward diving in. Personally I think tyrone got all their examples for being involved and being on the pitch when they shouldn't have been. Rightly so. Make an example out of both teams.

Looks like the rumours of Kyle Coneys return are true.

Wheres this coming from? was he at training over the last few days or something?

There seems to be some confusion. Can somebody clear this up:
For the period in question, should Tyrone have had more men on the field than Armagh, if the rules had have been applied correctly?

If yes, the appeal is justifiable.
If no, the appeal is pathetic.

My understanding is no.

My understanding is yes. Tyrone should have had 13 players and Armagh 12

Going by this it says Armagh had two players sent off but I was near sure there was 3?
http://www.hoganstand.com/Tyrone/Article/Index/286502

That article there looks bad in fairness

There seems to be some confusion. Can somebody clear this up:
For the period in question, should Tyrone have had more men on the field than Armagh, if the rules had have been applied correctly?

If yes, the appeal is justifiable.
If no, the appeal is pathetic.

My understanding is no.

My understanding is yes. Tyrone should have had 13 players and Armagh 12

At the end of extra time Armagh had a third player sent off (after the row and the equalising score). They commenced extra extra time with 15 players when they should have had 12 and Tyrone 13.

I have stated this numerous times.. one argument above was that one of the players was already subbed off..

read my post again.

Ok  fair enough though you do say we are capable of beating Mayo or Kerry which I see nothing to indicate that.

Beat both of them comfortably in the league? surely that's an indication that its possible anyway.

immediately following the row, both teams had 2 players sent off. Armagh also had a management member sent off. Play then resumed, Following the next whistle to end the period another Armagh player was sent off after the whistle. This would suggest they should have had a player less on the field than tyrone when they resumed. I'm assuming tyrones appeal is based on this.

Was there an issue over red cards and Armagh restarting with 15 in extra time?

From Damian Harvey on Twitter:

Lots of confusion around the eligibility of players in extra extra time. It appears that both teams resumed phase two with 15 players each. That shouldn't have happened.  Both phases are treated as one game. Not two new games. Replay anyone?

Or take the beating like men?

So no team was at a disadvantage? Why would a replay be required.

Armagh had 3 players sent off and tyrone 2?

Didn't tyrone play Carlow in a challenge game at the beginning of the year and were beat?

Why should he leave the panel? There's some generation of snowflakes on here. He did nothing the last day to keep his place, he's a talented lad but he has no devine right to named in the starting 15. This is knock out football and you can't be picking lads just incase they have a hissy fit and walk off the panel - anyway people are doing Ronan a disservice  to say he is even that type of character, he might just have a little more resilience than people are giving him credit for. I like the starting 15. We've added a bit of physicality and it's good to see Ritchie back. Hopefully Paudie can make the most of his chance, he's been on the panel long enough now and has all the physical attributes to be a decent midfielder.

Great post BH. In Dublin/ Kerry/ Mayo etc if a player wasn't starting after not playing well the last day there wouldn't be a word about him leaving the panel. And if Ruairi Sludden is needed in the second half of the game on Saturday he should come on, regardless of whether it might upset some of the lads on the bench. Some Tyrone 'supporters' (if you can call them that) seem to want to keep the team in a perpetual state of crisis but I suppose the only way to change this is to win games.

As other posters have said it would be very short sighted for anyone to drop off the panel at this stage if Tyrone win on Saturday. 2008 and 2015 are two prime examples of when Tyrone were knocked out in the first round of Ulster and there was panic stations within the county and talk of wanting Harte out. These years show that all it takes is a win or two to get morale up and get a bit of momentum again. Meath is a great opportunity to start this off this weekend. Tir Eoghain Abu!

Well said! Totally Agree!!