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This type of anti football makes corner forwards like lee Brennan redundant. This is the sole reason they become anonymous. Any manager in Tyrone could set a team up like this! This begs the question is coaching in Tyrone of poor standard? You can have all the talent you want but if your relying on Mickey Harte an Fergal Logan for inspiration you can forget about it. This will continue just as the empty seats in Healy park.

So who can get us playing positive attacking football now that Harte, Logan/Canavan, McGleenen and ORourke have been ruled out?

Based on some of the previous suggestions Jim mcguiness could be next

The only manager ever to win an All Ireland with a group of players who were nowhere near the best in ireland. Indeed only for a bad kickout would have won two

This is the biggest myth in GAA peddled by romantics and idiots. I spoke to a well known coach around 2010 and I remember him saying if there was one team in Ireland he'd want to coach it was Donegal as they had unreal talent but were underachieving massively.

Anyway, heading for game tonight. Expecting us to win by 5 or 6 minimum.

Hopefully we get at least a draw. With a draw it would mean Donegal are still 2 points behind us and no head to head advantage. That and a home win against Mayo would do nicely!

Not at all. Tyrone will win by 6+ points.

Any sign of a Donegal team? Rory Gallagher never in a hurry releasing it

The Armagh captain is only after getting released from Jail after last night. Young rafferty is in a serious hanlin'.

What happened the lad?

Considering this team got stuffed by Donegal at minor level and failed to score against them in the 2nd half.
Then I would say they are not doing too bad to get a replay and almost beat a fancied Donegal team
Who reached an AI Final at minor. Many of the Donegal players are on their senior panel and they still failed to beat a young Tyrone team at this level.
Also I would say if they played a nice open game 15v 15 one on one then they would have got tanked
Like they did at minors ( and most on here would not be happy) Instead the management have shown that they can take a limited enough group and make them competitive. No one complained about their style of football when they won the AI, you have to work with the material at your disposal and they have shown that they can do that.

Monaghan beat them at minor level in the cship, not Donegal. We severely underachieved 3 years ago.

The time, energy and money that has gone into this u21 side has been phenominal. Fergal Logan can be proud of last night, now to next Wed night to finish the job.

Knew looking at the team that started, wouldnt be too long for a few boys to be found out and get the hook. No idea why it takes to the first competitive game for this to be the case.

McLernon, McNabb both should be starting from what i can see. Podge McAnenly?? another that has more to offer. Thought midfield was quite poor. and Lee Brennan really was poor, bar few frees. No surprise why he's barely featured for tyrone, despite being in the squad for nearly 4 years. DD Mulgrew looked twice the player imo.

Agree with this. Brennan is a class act but was no where to be seen last night. Other sub's had big impact. Brian Kennedy is nowhere near the standard required. Not convinced by Ben McDonald either. A black card merchant

In Omagh watching the match last night. Hoped to see good game. What rubbish. That'll do me for county games. What is these super coaches doing with these cubs kept under lock and key for months? And as for all the men cryin bout harte and looking the u21 managers installed - you'd just be getting even more negative garbage!!!!!!!!

Get a grip of yourself. Logan has the boys very well drilled and I was impressed with us last night. Should have won the game and left it behind us. The only problem I had is that we seemed to start a team weaker than the one that finished. We mightn't get away with that again

Donegal have been going well but in fairness they've only beaten the bottom two teams in the division Roscommon and Cavan with a surprise draw against Dublin. It would be know surprise to see them loosing their remaining games starting with a good hammering this weekend!

As someone who was actually at the game maybe a few facts would be useful instead of the exaggeration and speculation included in previous posts.

Firstly, the game was played in great spirit and in a very sporting manner. There were two black cards. Both Tyrone.
The sidelines had Brian Dooher running in front of the Donegal kickout which was dealt with quickly by the officials. I would never condone these types of antics. On the Donegal side there was definitely something going on here. Balls were coming in from behind the goals as keeper was taking his kickout. From where I was it looked like kids but hard to tell. What I can state was the final Tyrone attack was met by two mystery balls rolled on by their water man around the 20m line. It was ignored by the ref and didn't impact on play however this is poor and unsporting behaviour. Yes Tyrone also kicked a ball down into an attack to their keeper for quick kickout at one stage but it looked very innocent.

Ulster Cship starts this week. Predictions.

Monaghan v Derry / Monaghan have a game played
Tyrone v Donegal / 50/50 Draw Donegal have 9 starters inj
Cavan v Fermanagh / Cavan dark horses in Ulster
Armagh v Down / Armagh easy. Down are not good

I was at the Slaughtneil game. I thought we won by a couple of points no? It was a tight enough game. It was abandoned by the referee after 15mins after a melee. Ref had to be persuaded to come back.

What's the expectations for the u21s this year?

We haven't pulled any trees at minor level in the past 3 years. One win against Down back in 2014 and three defeats to Monaghan, Donegal and Derry. Apart from Brennan, Mulgrew and McKernan there wouldn't be too many players there who would be weighted in expectation for the future as well, that I know of anyway.

On the plus side we have a good management side in place and they will have had full access to the whole panel in preparation to the build up in comparison to Donegal say who will have had a lot of players involved with seniors and who have picked up injuries as well.

Could well turn out to be a very good side but a lot of them would be unknown of players as of yet in comparison to previous U21 sides.

I've seen the 21s a few times this year cos of nephew in the panel and I'd be impressed with the set up. We beat a lot of very good sides including Dublin, Cork, Down, Slaughtneil and Kildare. Make no mistake we're very well prepared for this game. Donegal should be equally strong but most definitely haven't been going as well. The reliable word is they've struggled to get players together and have half a dozen key men injured.
I don't really know what to expect but from what I've seen we are in a damn good position to win this one.

Anyone hazard a guess at the starting line up

Can some one explain how to use the ignore function on gaaboards. Cheers

Ill give it a go.
1. Benny Gallen
2. Darren Devlin
3. Peter Teague
4. Niall Kelly
5. Michael O'Neill
6. Michael McKernan
7. Eoghan Murray
8. Ben McDonnell
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Fergal Meenagh
11. David Mulgrew
12. Ryan Loughran
13. Lee Brennan
14. Ryan Coleman
15. Pauric McAnenly

Not bad superstar.
Jody McGlone will start at wing back. Going well. McKernan key man at 6 and probably Paudi McGirr at left half. Ben McDonald and Fergal Meenagh likely to start in middle. Muldrew likely to start at 11 and move to wing back during game . Big Brian Kennedy will probably start at 14 with Coleman or Loughran. Brennan has a free role.
The bench is good with loads of game changers.

Donegal lost to Sligo during the week and they have injuries to key men so I'd give us an excellent chance here. Should be good game.

The Donegal team is serious, they could literally win it out. Those in the very west of Tyrone have been hearing the noises the last few months.

What noises? Tell us more

Some stuff being talked about Harte.
We're top of Div 1, favourites for Ulster cship, playing well but still some people say things aren't right!

Anyone hazard a guess at the starting line up

Can some one explain how to use the ignore function on gaaboards. Cheers

Ill give it a go.
1. Benny Gallen
2. Darren Devlin
3. Peter Teague
4. Niall Kelly
5. Michael O'Neill
6. Michael McKernan
7. Eoghan Murray
8. Ben McDonnell
9. Conn Kilpatrick
10. Fergal Meenagh
11. David Mulgrew
12. Ryan Loughran
13. Lee Brennan
14. Ryan Coleman
15. Pauric McAnenly

Not bad superstar.
Jody McGlone will start at wing back. Going well. McKernan key man at 6 and probably Paudi McGirr at left half. Ben McDonald and Fergal Meenagh likely to start in middle. Muldrew likely to start at 11 and move to wing back during game . Big Brian Kennedy will probably start at 14 with Coleman or Loughran. Brennan has a free role.
The bench is good with loads of game changers.

Donegal lost to Sligo during the week and they have injuries to key men so I'd give us an excellent chance here. Should be good game.

Kerry odds on favs for All Ireland despite struggling over Clare last night. Interesting.