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Shocking result, would be acceptable for hurling... not football.
Can't find any match report or lineup anywhere.

and theres the issue right there

some in the Football Fraternity labouring under the impression that football in the county is better than what it actually is

The Footballers got torn apart by a Division 4 Team today

Thats the level they are at

I read that as it's more acceptable to lose by that margin in hurling than football not the way you did.
Anyway, I really doubt there are very few from the "football fraternity" who think our football team are currently anything other than in a bad way. We've haemorrhaged players from last year's squad and have seen countless lads turn down Sheehan's invite to play. I'll be thrilled if we stay up, beat Wicklow in championship and maybe win a game or two in the second tier championship.
It was a tough day for the lads who are on board yesterday. Not many bright spots. James Finn looks a good addition. And good to see his clubmate Sean Moore playing the full game. The more county football he gets, the better. Mark Barry was good too. He knows where the posts are. Hopefully we'll see a few more faces Wednesday night and also next Saturday.

Yep, thankfully someone's has the brains to realise I was obviously referring to conceding 6 goals and losing by that margin to a traditional hurling county.

Ye Laois boys crack me up

Wexford have more of a recent and historical tradition in football than what Laois has, appearing in all ireland semi final in 2008

It must be nearly the centenary of ye last reaching one soon ?

but you wouldn't have "the brains" to know that either

I guess you'd have tipp down as a "traditional" hurling county too even though we have a much richer recent and historic football past as well

Bottom line

Ye seem to have this misguided notion that ye are more of a football county than Wexford

stop fooling yereselves

Ok but I asked you because you seemed to be indicating that you knew more about it.

Obviously you dont or I presume you would tell me here.

It turns out that neither of us know so we are both in the same position but at least I know where I stand.

I asked questions. I wasnt implying there was no plan but merely hoping you could provide further information.

Maybe you also need to seek further information instead of lauding a plan that you seem to know nothing about?

I've seen the document

I know what's involved

What don't you get up off your hole and get it

Rather than mouthing on some forum

Overall I would say the Offaly idea above is lightweight with little progress for players or any accountability. Its an easy catch all that will have very minimal impact. Better than nothing but miles away at same time.

It's actually the opposite with buy in from the clubs,GDA's GPO's and the county management teams

There's a document circulating as well which outlines what needs to be done at the various juvenile age groups

But as usual the Laois lads who don't seem to realise they are miles behind Offaly at this stage seem to know it all and be critical without having a clue what they are talking about

Are you the Tipp man from the same category you mention above?

My point regarding the dev plan in Offaly for 13s to 17s is that its 40 burpees, x number of press ups and run for certain number of minutes. Grand to get club players moving but if theres no follow up or progression it will merely a drop in the ocean and will have little impact.

How is this being implemented/organised? Is there a structure to it.

It's fairly obvious you don't have a clue what's going on in Offaly

So here's an idea for you

Seek out someone that's involved with juvenile development in Offaly,

Get the plan off them,not just the plan for this month

implement it in your own club

And stop trying to pick holes in a county that's doing something when laois is doing nothing

Overall I would say the Offaly idea above is lightweight with little progress for players or any accountability. Its an easy catch all that will have very minimal impact. Better than nothing but miles away at same time.

It's actually the opposite with buy in from the clubs,GDA's GPO's and the county management teams

There's a document circulating as well which outlines what needs to be done at the various juvenile age groups

But as usual the Laois lads who don't seem to realise they are miles behind Offaly at this stage seem to know it all and be critical without having a clue what they are talking about

[Leinster Senior Club Championship Winners since 2000]

You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

Deflect Deflect Deflect

How many times have laois clubs beaten kilkenny clubs in senior intermediate or junior Leinster club championships?

How many times have kilkenny clubs beaten laois clubs in this 3 competitions

Since the junior and intermediate Leinster club championships were brought in,how many times have laois clubs won it?


We all know what Laois clubs have done in the senior club championships,one Leinster final appearance in 20 years.

Maybe look at the actual facts Son and stop deluding yourself

So after endless pontifications which have been dismantled you finally come up with numbers and somehow this makes your original argument where you belittled our two best clubs valid??? I don't think so. How do these numbers mean that CB and BIK would be dragged into relegation in KK. They don't. You are of course correct in that Laois clubs haven't won these competitions or beaten KK clubs along the way but that was not your original point which was way off the mark. Tipp haven't won a club all ireland in God knows how long. Are they deluded too?

Deflection is right!

Drag Tipperary into it and then accuse me of deflection in the next breath

Irony is lost on you,Son

and FYI a Tipp Club won a Provincial Senior Title 2 years ago

If you want to go down the road of comparing Tipp and Laois, fire ahead

You've already made an ass out of yourself comparing laois to kilkenny

Lets deal in the Facts

Leinster Senior Club Championship Winners since 2000

Kilkenny Clubs 12 titles
Offaly 5
Dublin 2
Wexford 1
Carlow 1

No sign of Laois there

Leinster Intermediate Club Championship Winners since its inception in 2006

Kilkenny 12
Carlow 1
Meath 1
Kildare 1
Westmeath 1

again where's Laois!!!!!

Leinster Junior Club Championship Winners since 2000

Kilkenny 15
Wexford 2
Carlow 1
Offaly 1
Westmeath 1


Total Club Titles won

Kilkenny 39
Offaly 6
Wexford 3
Carlow 3
Dublin 2
Westmeath 2
Kildare 2

And Lads think Laois with a Big Fat 0 number of clubs titles at any grade are in any way comparable to Kilkenny Club teams ?

Laughable

Offaly yet again powering on with their youth development work


https://twitter.com/offaly_gaa/status/1475847626436325379?s=21

You're all over the place.

You started off by belittling our two best teams. I dismantled that argument so you're now gone back to trawling through 20 years + of records. Make up your mind. which is it?

Your a delusional fool

Get back to me when a laois club beats a Kilkenny club at senior intermediate or junior club level in Leinster.

You seem to labour under the impression that the Laois championship is anyway comparable to the Kilkenny one

Leinster club wins speak otherwise

I seem? Don't make assumptions. They make an ass out of you and me. Although, you have managed the first half of that all on your own.

You're now gone on to make yet another separate claim. I suppose we should be thankful that you've accepted that your original claims where you belittled CB and BIOK are bullshit.

Deflect Deflect Deflect

How many times have laois clubs beaten kilkenny clubs in senior intermediate or junior Leinster club championships?

How many times have kilkenny clubs beaten laois clubs in this 3 competitions

Since the junior and intermediate Leinster club championships were brought in,how many times have laois clubs won it?


We all know what Laois clubs have done in the senior club championships,one Leinster final appearance in 20 years.

Maybe look at the actual facts Son and stop deluding yourself

Northerners want to be freestaters? News to me.

Much happier being British subjects with your British traditions such as Boxing Day

https://twitter.com/csblenner/status/1475161417263292417?s=21

"Virtually all the debate on the reunification of Ireland centres on how we integrate the 800k PUL citizens in NI and how we absorb a region that's been in economic freefall for decades. But Joe Brolly's dubious claims suggest the integration of republicans as another snag."

As proven by the vast majority of northern comments on here

They have more in common with their unionist neighbours and despise the south

I think it's more nuanced than that.

Northerners of my vintage and older probably take exception to how we were portrayed by the ruling elites, the media, print, television and radio in Dublin mostly, the church with the honourable exception of Cardinal Ó Fiaich not the ordinary Joe who wanted to make a living for his family in deepest Cloughjordan or the likes.

Scannal showed a documentary of the "dispute" at Holycross Primary school 20 years after the event and seeing some of the responses from the likes of Anthony Daly on twitter almost incredulous that this happened as if he was unaware of it when it was actually happening..

The Southern public were deliberately kept in the dark and fed a "one is bad as the other line" for fear of offending the unionists in the north and the London government I presume..

You presumed wrong on that front

It's like you lot think we didn't have television or just RTE only for our sources of information,when the abomination at Holy Cross was going on.

There are 2 ways to manage a territory with a significant regional minority .

1. Unified with high regional autonomy
2. Partitioned


The national territory was partitioned against the wishes of Unionists and Nationalists in 1920. Tyrone and Fermanagh were thrown in for free. There was no vote.


"For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong"
Mencken.

North Down and Antrim were more developed than the South.

Grace Neill's pub in Donaghdee has a photo from a century ago. Nobody was wearing tracksuits.

Post 1920 the Unionists ran NI as a separate country that was not Irish. They ran an ethnography with systematic injustice against Nationalists.

The UK was at the time richer than the South. In the 50s even Crossmaglen Republicans appreciated the NHS although they felt uncomfortable.
Dublin had zero leverage.

Until the system collapsed into civil war in 1969.

Sunningdale, the Anglo Irish Agreement and the GFA all had significant Dublin input.

The last 50 years have featured the slow dripping away of Unionist power in favour of Dublin influence. The GFA was described as Sunningdale for slow learners by Séamus Mallon.

Over the same time period the Northern economy faded and was overtaken by the Southern economy. 

The institutions of the Southern state  including the LLS are partitionist.  So are the papers. This is not a law of nature. The people aren't necessarily.
The national territory is still divided.

This is a very long game.

For those who seem to believe that the Republic is any way comparable to what they have in NI

A few simple facts

NI currently has a population 36% of the Republics

1.1920 2 counties Down and Antrim had 80% of the total economic output of the Island, today the total NI economic output is 8% of this islands output.

If NI was in any fit state economically, it would be contributing a third or more.

2.The Size of the Republics economy is €400bn odd, the size of NI's is £40bn odd

NI's economy should be treble what it is, £120bn odd

3.Exports

ROI total exports €160bn odd,2020 up 8% on 2019

NI total exports £7bn odd

the reality is that the increase in the Republic exports between 2019 and 2020 is greater than NI total exports tells its own story.

4.Cross Border pre 2021 Exports by value

34% NI exports to the Republic

1% ROI exports to NI


I could go on and on with examples as regards the disparity in wages, educational attainment, quality of life, life expectancy, even social welfare benefits which seems to a preoccupation of some from NI and the likes of gay rights and abortion rights but I wont.

I'm sure the sainted northern NHS will be thrown at me as an example of where NI is better the Republic, but when you look at the thousands on waiting lists up there, it kinda dilutes that claim too.

The reality is that the Republic is a free open and tolerant European country, the North ain't and maybe that's why most nordies on here resent it so much

https://twitter.com/csblenner/status/1475161417263292417?s=21

"Virtually all the debate on the reunification of Ireland centres on how we integrate the 800k PUL citizens in NI and how we absorb a region that's been in economic freefall for decades. But Joe Brolly's dubious claims suggest the integration of republicans as another snag."

As proven by the vast majority of northern comments on here

They have more in common with their unionist neighbours and despise the south

There's wrong'uns everywhere. I spent time living in Munster and a very prominent County footballer give me awful abuse throughout the game. F**k off back to UK you British c**t etc for large elements of the game. And I mean repetitive over and over. We got well beat on the day but I held him scoreless from play so I was happy enough...I actually clipped him at the end when he said something one time too many...the other corner forward came over and told him he deserved it!

Long story short, my whole experience living in the south was filled with the exact thing Joe is talking about. Absolutely clueless with no idea what has happened in the North. It was so infuriating.

If your last paragraph proves anything it proves that the British policy of divide and conquer works a treat

We in the south don't understand you lot and you have more in common with your Unionist neighbours than you have with anyone from the South

A United Ireland is a faint hope

Pure horseshit. Its a long way from Dan Breen you've fallen.

Breen and Treacy would be spinning in their graves with this boy.

If there were any Breens or Treacy's in Tyrone at that time

You lot wouldn't be part of the British State today

17% of the Tipperary population in the IRA less than 5% in Tyrone

Why did the South abandon us whinge the nordies neglecting the fact  that their Grandparents and great grandparents hid under the bed 100 years ago

If Munster had been closer geographically,

we might have saved ye

And you lot are still MOPEing today

Saved ye
You ran away when shit hit the fan and sold out. In typical Tipperary fashion

Boo hoo

If ye lot were any use the likes of Tyrone would be in the Republic but it ain't and it's everyone's fault bar your own and what went before you.

Couldnt get the Brits out of your county during the war of independence

Couldn't get them out during the troubles

Still part of Britain with the scraps of devolution thrown at ye and ye happy with it

Nordies at their favourite pass time - arguing with anyone they can find!

Marching 

Drumming

Painting Kerbs

Hanging Flegs

Suicide by Motorbike

Wanting to be from the South while resenting it at the same time

I'm sure there's lots more Nordie traits that we can add to

We don't want to be from the south.

Unionists saying No

Well done,there's another one

Nordies at their favourite pass time - arguing with anyone they can find!

Marching 

Drumming

Painting Kerbs

Hanging Flegs

Suicide by Motorbike

Wanting to be from the South while resenting it at the same time

I'm sure there's lots more Nordie traits that we can add to

There's wrong'uns everywhere. I spent time living in Munster and a very prominent County footballer give me awful abuse throughout the game. F**k off back to UK you British c**t etc for large elements of the game. And I mean repetitive over and over. We got well beat on the day but I held him scoreless from play so I was happy enough...I actually clipped him at the end when he said something one time too many...the other corner forward came over and told him he deserved it!

Long story short, my whole experience living in the south was filled with the exact thing Joe is talking about. Absolutely clueless with no idea what has happened in the North. It was so infuriating.

If your last paragraph proves anything it proves that the British policy of divide and conquer works a treat

We in the south don't understand you lot and you have more in common with your Unionist neighbours than you have with anyone from the South

A United Ireland is a faint hope

Pure horseshit. Its a long way from Dan Breen you've fallen.

Breen and Treacy would be spinning in their graves with this boy.

If there were any Breens or Treacy's in Tyrone at that time

You lot wouldn't be part of the British State today

17% of the Tipperary population in the IRA less than 5% in Tyrone

Why did the South abandon us whinge the nordies neglecting the fact  that their Grandparents and great grandparents hid under the bed 100 years ago

If Munster had been closer geographically,

we might have saved ye

And you lot are still MOPEing today