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If this game was being played anywhere but Killarney I would say Mayo without a shadow of a doubt.
The fact it's in Killarney gives Kerry a far better chance I think.

Current Kerry team are afraid of Mayo

The u20 is a joke competition and they sooner they change it back to u21 under the old structure the better or drop it completely. Once again the rule about not playing u20 if you play senior discriminates against the smaller counties with limited playing panels.

I forgot this competition was even going LOL 
Seems like I didnt miss much.
Even the Super 8 structure makes it impossible for small counties.
its like the GAA are in self destruct mode

Do Mayo fans seriously consider this boy to be a marquee forward? He's not in the same league as lads like Murphy or McManus. Would be a great shame to see him become all time top scorer on the back of hundreds of gimme frees.

I'd be interested to see how much he scored from play against Dublin versus the Goochs tally

Iwhy do people forget what Games are actually about that is the team that scores the most wins, And that's what cillian brings to mayo for years mayo had good team but no free taker and teams felt free to pull and drag them at no cost . Cillian is the the most effective forward in the country over the last 7 or 8 years and crucifies poor team whose  defenders 1st thought is to foul.

I agree with most of this except being the most effective forward in the country over the last 7/8 years. Surely rock has been more so?

Rock is actually two years older which I was amazed at, COC averages 7.1, Rock 5.2, Rock has played 10 games less (50 v 40) but is 150 points behind. I thought they would have been much more comparable because they are very similar

Anyone who questions COC just needs to look at this point and then f*k off and accept they know f**k all about f**k all when it comes to football

https://youtu.be/AHMVIKM7wCg

Thats 10 seconds away from the end of seven minutes of injury time and he kicks it from just inside the 45, for his 7th point in an all ireland final.

And if right was right he'd have been given the chance to kick his 8th when Small picked the ball clean off the ground

But Rock plays with a higher scoring group of players
so he will score less than COC (Mayo need him more)
That video clip is not a great example. Because Mayo should have won that game by about 5 points
But, in the end Dublin were leading by a point before that kick. It kind of sums up that Mayo sqaud if anything.

[On at least 3 occasions we gave the ball straight back to Armagh. O'Shea's free to Treacy, McLoughlin's pass to Boland and Clarke to Durcan.]

                                                           
                           Clarke
O Donoghue         S.Coen     Harrison
Higgins            Boyle         Durcan
                     Vaughan  O Shea
Mc Donagh    Cillian     Mc Loughlin
Carr           Doherty     D.Coen
   

Boyle was sweeping for the majority of the game on Saturday. People give Horan a lot of stick for poor tactics but that wasn't the reason we nearly lost a 5 point lead. On at least 3 occasions we gave the ball straight back to Armagh. O'Shea's free to Treacy, McLoughlin's pass to Boland and Clarke to Durcan.

Stephen Coen did well the last day but unless Comer or Conroy start in the forwards I don't see which Galway player he could mark. He wouldn't be quick enough for OLaoi, Burke, Cummins etc. Higgins, Boyle and Barrett played the full game against Down and Armagh so you'd worry about their legs in the 2nd half. With Keegan out they'll probably have to start.

I agree about the players panicking and giving the ball away but at 1 stage with about 5 mins to go we were 2 on 2 in our fb line.Kamikaze stuff and Horan has to take some slack for it.I think Coen is our best option for fb especially if Comer plays.Harrison is not a fb and is getting exposed here and with Higgins not doing well in the corner it makes sense to move Harrison here.

I thought Aiden O'Shea is out for the Galway game ?
Along with Keegan.  Thats what I am hearing from people in The West

Wasnt I same league as Colm Cooper, Peter Cananan or Kieran McDonald.

Colm Cooper only produced the goods when his team were playing well.
I saw him in Croker one day, and he didn't want the ball
Canavan and McDonald could pull their team through a tough game

Technically, I suppose they were the two best teams, but it was a foregone conclusion the Dubs would win. Probably the most likely AI win in recent times. I can't recall one as certain as last years. And I don't say that just to piss Tyrone folk off. I'd say many of them would agree.

Yep, that was the first reasonably comfortable All Ireland final win for Dublin.
You must be very young if you can't remember Kerry waltzing All Ireland finals. Or Kilkenny in hurling.

This is as anecdotal as it gets because it's a sample size of one, but it's the first All Ireland final in living memory that I didn't watch, because I knew it was a foregone conclusion. I never felt that about any Kilkenny or Kerry final, and I don't ever recall any final featuring either of those two where it was impossible to find any decent pundit even entertain the possibility that an upset might happen.

Admittedly I would have watched it if it was Dublin against Monaghan, since I felt that Monaghan were in a good place last year and I would have given them a genuine 5/1 or 6/1 chance of causing a shock. But that didn't happen so I went down the road and watched Portumna hurling against Loughrea instead. I'll do the same for this year's final as well unless some county shows a huge upturn in form in advance of the decider, because right now, there is no county out there that would stay within six points of the Dubs. 

Moreover, it's not like watching Dublin is even enjoyable - they aren't six points better because they display a huge array of skills and deliver breathtaking scores. That's not to say they're not able to, it's that they choose not to. We see low risk football, lots of running, lots of movement, retain the ball and wear the opposition down type stuff, until eventually someone can get a clean shot away from 30 yards out. I don't blame Dublin for that, it's very effective - but it's painfully monotonous. I'd watch Ciarán Kilkenny play for Castleknock all day, because he's allowed use his full range of skills. Watching him play for Dublin is incredibly dull.

When Dublin are tested, they still get the scores though
From positions, that other teams rack up huge wide counts from
I will admit, that they are being tested less and less
They seem to move up a gear and get those crucial scores.
I thought they would have run out of steam by now. But they are producing more talent
to keep the team ticking over.

When I played club football in Dublin in 90's. There was not a single person in my job who played GAA
And most people I knew were in to soccer and rugby. Its all changed
GAA pitches everywhere you look and you see all the kids on Luas heading to practice.

Roscommon were cleaned out at midfield in the first half of both games, absolutely destroyed. It's hard to comprehend how a team can come back from that and function with essentially no midfield

Ros could have been torn apart by half time against another side. They were like statues at times
Great win though. Always good to win Nestor Cup
Any chance of some Mayo midfielders transferring to Ros for super 8

Kerry are afraid of them
Then again so are most teams

Willie Joe's blog makes entertaining reading this morning. "Galway always target the league and will be pooped come August" after Galway beat Mayo while missing 2/3rds of their panel. "I'd rather lose than play as defensively as Galway tonight". This is a game where Galway with 13 players scored 1-1 against a Mayo side that funneled everyone back to defend that 2 man advantage. In fairness you get weirdos in every bunch, they just seem to have a high number count over there

There is a slow denial going on here in Mayo. The three Connacht Championship losses to Galway in a row are seen as sort of flukes. Many don't see that the 2012-2017 group is in decline and it's just a case of adding one to five new faces and we are up and running again.  Many in Mayo  have forgotten that Mayo have fallen back into the chasing pack (if not behind) and Galway are in the chasing pack. Problem is the Chasing pack are all well behind Dublin.

I went to see them in Croker last week
Mayo are still a pacy, and very physical team, which will get them past most sides
Dublin were technically better in every position and never looked in trouble
Today against Roscommon again they looked comfortable because of their technical ability

Back where it all started v the Rams, I wonder will they film the Rams walk through again?

They have a saying in the US
If you ain't cheating some way then you ain't tryin hard enough

Assuming he doesn't get injured between now and then Brady will have played in 17% of all super bowls by the end of the season. I think the discussion about him being theGoat is over but is he the best sportstar of his generation?

Pats have 12 draft picks too
Its gonna be a long 2019 for all the haters

Awful stuff from Ros
Junior B

Still havent seen anything to keep dublin players up at night

Whilst Tyrone undoubtedly are in great phyiscal shape, it's not all about the S&C. You need players who are prepared to put in the hard graft during matches, make the long lung bursting runs to create space or get back into a defensive position. A lot of this work is done unselfishly for the good of the team. Tyrone have about 20 of these type of players. With Roscommon and a few other teams they don't have enough players prepared to do that. I'd say physically, Roscommon lads are probably not far off Tyrone if they were to lift weights or run around a track, but the attitude on the pitch is much more important. The desire the Dublin lads show to get up and down the pitch is phenomenal and what most teams can't match. Whilst not wanting to single anyone out, Enda Smith is a wonderfully talented  footballer but fro the few times I've seen him play against Tyrone he is  not prepared to put in the hard yards which would enable a player of his talent to dominate a game, not just pop up on the periphery with a decent score from time to time, give me a Frank Burns or a Paudie Hampsey any day of the week.

Benny it's sad that someone who had seen so little of ros football can pick out that trait when a lot of rossies fail to see it.  The knifes are out for management again and they are a contributing factor but they cannot make a player track back in a match or get into position quickly. You should be able to run forward as fast as you can run back.

Just watching Rossies warm up then watching Dublin
it was like Minor v Senior
Huge gap

Mourinho was having a go at Belgium
Said Hazard worked his socks off and the rest of them stood and watched him

He also said tiredness will play in England favour
also that Croatia midfield similar to France so will be interesting to see how England cope