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Who is Rostrevors new managaer?

DJ morgan , did well with carryduff getting them promoted to div 1 and so far as i know a senior final also

i get the point , my point is it makes more fiscal sense for a club to pay down their own loans as the repayments will be much higher than the fraction they contribute to fix the county boards mess. thankfully jp had the foresight to make sure it goes to clubs so its irrelevant really 

Your numbers don't add up to me Skattie.

JP's maximum donation per club is slated to be circa €24k, or about £21.5k.

It's a very welcome donation, but let's be honest, it will make only a small impression against the outlay required for a modern GAA capital expenditure project ie the ones we all get loans for.

Whereas if half of each donation was sent upstairs, that tally from 40+ clubs would wipe out the county's debt in full, and remove the levy we've all been paying for a decade.

JP might have been right to state it was for the clubs. But by the same measure our clubs have the right to use it to pay off our county's debts.

 a 100k loan having 20% repaid off it would save a club considerably in repayments so my numbers are fine . clubs provide the county with players , pitches and gym facilities in some cases. In other counties the clubs are making great use of county provided facilities which is how it should be in my view.

you are right in saying clubs have a right to do as they please with the donation. there wont be many id wager sending it back to the county board.

i get the point , my point is it makes more fiscal sense for a club to pay down their own loans as the repayments will be much higher than the fraction they contribute to fix the county boards mess. thankfully jp had the foresight to make sure it goes to clubs so its irrelevant really 

Short memory Wobbler. It's not long since the debacle of Burrenbridge that cost £500k. Paid a massive non refundable deposit of £450k. Who do you think paid for that and are still paying? THE CLUBS.
Why do you think similar could not happen again?
Waken up and .........

So your agreed it would make sense for the clubs to pay it down now rather than continue to pay interest on the county debt to the banks. 

you know alot of clubs have debt of their own right ?

Is that figure correct of €8,065 per club in Down? Seen that figure doing the rounds but thought it's a bit lower than what was to be expected?

Anyone any idea if that's correct and if so how? Would mean there'd be just under 124 clubs in the county???

I believe it's a payment per code.

So my own club are looking at 3 x €8k. Others more, others less.

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I do believe the right thing to do here is wipe out the County's loan repayments then divvy the rest up pro rata.

This would cost us all less in the long run.

An excellent concept, but many clubs wouldn't see the wider picture

explain the wider picture

why would clubs pay off the counties debt ? has the county ever paid off a club debt ?

When do they start caring about these clubs and when do they stop? The answer is: when that club starts paying them and when that club stops paying them. Then, as if by magic, they start caring about another club and another 22 year old.
The fact is that they are doing it for themselves. They want to succeed as a manager and each club is merely a vehicle for them to do so.

any manager taking any team wants to succeed as a manager even in club  , if you think they give up endless hours of there own time  and listen to abuse from parents/supporters/players just for the love of the club you are living in fantasy land.
of course they want to see the club do well but 99% of in house coaches have a vested interest,  be that a kid on the team or using the team underage or senior to further themselves for the future by gaining experience.

what would you like to see happen ? 

a very well articulated post

success is completely relevant to circumstances, one teams success could be surviving a league or a promotion in second place or reaching a certain point in a championship. the 1 cup logic is flawed .

the reason they dont stay within their own clubs is only 1 group of men can take a senior team and as ive said before there is a need for outside managers . they provide a service . if the need goes away then so do the "mercenaries " . like supersub said most are good men who love gaa and care about furthering the teams they go in to. most , not all

on the manager discussions , managing a senior team at any level now from div 1 to div 4 is a huge undertaking. the reason there is a "merry go round" is that within most clubs, in-house managers dont want to step up and take the senior job.
many reasons like the time involved or the lack of confidence at the level or simply having seen that in some clubs in-house men get zero thanks. The reason outside "mercenaries" exist is because there is a need and they fill it. Make in house coaching more attractive and perhaps this will change 

Delighted to see Paul Faloon refing the Ulster final. Well-deserved, tho there's alway a risk Kilcoo won't turn up in protest

Agree, so just hypothetically here. Would Ulster have folded the way Down did if Kilcoo have had made the final? I doubt it very much.

i doubt very much that ulster gaa would have put a down man in charge of a final containing a down team

Mark Poland, Jerome Johnston, Steven Poacher, Cathal Murray, Donal O'Hare, Shorty Trainor

eamon morgan and also bernie ruanne and micheal magill might still be there

john boyle staying in point

surprised michael walsh hasnt surfaced somewhere

are all management teams now in place ?

do they use in house management all the time ?