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#16
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
Quote from: Mayo4Sam on September 03, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
Leo, you say Offaly would back it but from the outside looking in it seems all the Leinster delegates vote year in and out for Dublin to be kept in CP for the championship, I think assuming unity of opinion with these lads is a stretch.....unfortunately

Only one county consistently opposes Dublin having every championship match at home. The rank and file vote in delegates though, it's time they were sent a message.
#17
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 03, 2015, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: deiseach on September 03, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
It would be nice to have a reasonable conversation about money in the GAA. It's not going to happen though when one party to the conversation always demonstrates naked hostility towards one county in particular.

True, and ironically it means the very topic they would like discussed, doesn't get a proper airing.

This thread is fair and balanced.
#18
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 12:00:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on September 03, 2015, 11:18:48 AM
Underneath the hyperbole, Teo has a point. It's extremely hard to stomach lads on the Sunday Game saying smaller counties should 'get their houses in order'. That's an easy thing to say from an ivory tower, when those counties don't have money for coaches, or to run effective development academies. Spending on senior squads is crazy, and counties need to be held to account on money they are wasting on external managers or the like, but at the end of the day, if you don't have enough money to maximise the resources you do have, it's just not fair to be told to get your house in order.

It needs to be sorted at the top and we need to let them know that we want them to sort it. Once this happens we can talk about fair distribution of funds, sorting out every county with plans to ensure the money is spent wisely and so forth. I know Uibh Fhaili would back this campaign for sure seeing where they are now in both codes.
#19
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: Hereiam on September 03, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
Is Ulster not worth a mention  >:(

I was giving the Ulster boyos a pass but you still complain. :) There's reasons I wont be mentioning British funding.
#20
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 03, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
I can tell you that Mayo have a panel this year of 32 only. Lots of guys who were in Horan's squads were left off by H&C.
E.g. only 2 goalies. Most top teams would have 3 in the squad. No room for 3 in Mayo as they budget is too tight.

Add that to the expense of playing late into the Summer and Autumn and you can add on thousands. Finally I don't know why Mayo are being compared to Dublin and Kerry. I did a check of the Elverys stock price there and found it was $0.00.

Elverys is not a global company like Kerry Group or AIG pumping whatever revenue is required into the setup.

You're comparing Mayo with Dublin and Kerry, I'm comparing Mayo with Leitrim and Roscommon. There's no doubt that Dublin are far ahead in this financial doping. That doesn't mean that other counties should go unnoticed too. It all needs to be looked at seriously. Counties are going into huge debt just trying to keep up with the big boys.
#21
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 11:12:58 AM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on September 03, 2015, 11:04:37 AM
Good post Teo, I agree with every word

Thanks.
#22
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 11:12:20 AM
Quote from: screenexile on September 03, 2015, 11:02:33 AM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 03, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
What are your exact figures for Mayo, Dublin and Kerry?
Back up the claims with factual figures and not some nonsense like "everyone knows" etc....

Also many Counties have wealthy businessmen to tap into. Just because other counties don't have the ability to tap into it like others do well that's their own problem really! Donegal was one of the worst hit counties during the recession yet McGuinness was able to get funding to prepare his team to the highest level!

Wealthy businessmen are part of the problem. All finances need to be looked at. Do we want everyone competing on a level playing field or not?
#23
GAA Discussion / Re: Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 11:10:41 AM
Quote from: Nihilist on September 03, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
What are your exact figures for Mayo, Dublin and Kerry?
Back up the claims with factual figures and not some nonsense like "everyone knows" etc....

And how do you think I'd have access to the exact figures? We know Kerry raised 4 or 5 million in America nd Britain, Cake Curran said Mayo were spending 12k a week on their team, I think his estimation was low. We can be more sure about Dublin. Their aig deal is well known, we can't know for sure what they get off their 11 or so other sponsors but some of them are big names. We know what they get off the GAA yearly because the GAA release their accounts.
If you don't have a clue about this topic then maybe you should do some research and come back then.
#24
GAA Discussion / Money is Destroying the Game
September 03, 2015, 10:48:01 AM
The 3 remaining sides in this years All Ireland football championship are 3 highly funded, professionally prepared teams. All 3 have spent huge sums on getting to this stage of the competition. Their resources come from many different sources. Most will know of the high profile sponsorship deals and fundraising expeditions and of one of the counties getting 1.5 million euro yearly off regular GAA folk like you and me to fund the development of their underage players.

The source of their resources needs to be looked at but in this thread I'm focusing on the results of the high level funding and the impact it's having on the game. It is my opinion that if it is let continue it will finish the game of Gaelic football as we know it. The money available to these teams is not just giving them a hugely unfair advantage but it's making teams question the point of competing with them. The only conclusion to this madness will be either the cash rich teams splitting away from the rest to form their own competition or the rest splitting away from them.

Let's have a look at the impact the money is having on teams and competitions already. In Munster Kerry are dominant, nothing new here you say. The difference between now and before is that teams like Tipperary and Clare are putting in huge efforts to improve their standards. Their growth is being stunted at senior level because of whippings they get from Kerry. Let's not forget where Kerry were. No All Ireland since 2009, very little talent coming through, people were even predicting that it would be a long time before Kerry were at the top again. What changed? They got a shed load of money and trained their team to a professional level.

The Connacht championship is being dominated by one side, Mayo are likely to set a record for the number of Connacht titles they win in a row. They've handed out numerous beatings to all teams including a big county in Galway. Similar to Kerry, they are also halting the growth of teams like Roscommon who're putting in huge underage work and beating teams by 20+ points wont be helping them improve. GAA men and women in Leitrim are begging to be put into another competition even, they see no point in entering the Connacht championship and why should they? There's no way they can compete with the money Mayo have available to them.

The Leinster championship is dead. Dublin have won all but 1 of the last 10 Leinster championships. Teams now are beaten before they even get on the pitch. They hand out regular beatings to everyone. No one has got within 7 points of them since 2013. Again here teams are trying to get out of the Leinster championship, there's no point in competing in it. Dublin just use it as a warm up exercise, try out a few players and build up fitness for the later stages. This is a result of years of millions being given to fund the growth of their players and millions being pumped into their senior teams preparation.

Many counties around the country don't have their best players playing for them because the interest is not there. Why train all year to get destroyed in your provincial championship? As I've pointed out, some counties want to be put into a separate competition while the money rich counties are sick of wasting their time beating the poor counties so talk of throwing them into a losers competition is growing. Do we want an elite league where you need money to enter their competition? Is this what the GAA is meant to be about? Also as we seen last Sunday, these teams have no respect for the game. They're all about win at all costs like all professional teams.

Let's call a spade a spade here. This is financial doping, the teams remaining are buying their way to the top. I've already pointed out some of the results that has and will happen because of this but the ultimate conclusion is the game will go professional in these counties. We already see it with players barely ever working, their whole diet/lifestyle/daily routine being looked after by highly paid professionals. This has to be stopped.

The question of how we stop it can be answered later, first we have to let it be known that we want it stopped. There's too much silence on this issue. It barely ever gets mentioned in the national media. Whenever it does it's always shouted down by the money rich counties. Dublin GAA went mad when it was suggested that their yearly 1.5 million budget they get from the GAA should be looked at. We can't let this go on. It will destroy the inter county game, within a decade it will be finished. They'll be an elite league of about 8 playing professionally. We can't let this happen. Let's stop it now!
#25
GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
August 31, 2015, 12:04:43 AM
Quote from: ONeill on August 30, 2015, 11:59:19 PM
Quote from: Teo Lurley on August 30, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Hhahahaha they were doing that actually and I'm sure the Mayo fans can tell you it wasn't so nice when the Dubs were 7 points up and rubbing it in to the Mayo supporters.

Bollocks...it was a sarcastic ole. Dublin were being unadventurous and the Hill responded sarcastically.

Come on, the Dubs on the Hill can't even spell sarcastic.
#26
GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
August 30, 2015, 11:54:58 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 30, 2015, 11:47:53 PM
Is it just me or were the Dubs oléing before HT the  coked up soccer bastids??

Hhahahaha they were doing that actually and I'm sure the Mayo fans can tell you it wasn't so nice when the Dubs were 7 points up and rubbing it in to the Mayo supporters.
#27
Actually you can see here that the little lilies weren't taking the defeat too well and were trying to start it with the young Tipps. The lad that Kennedy tried to tackle was mouthing loads from the moment he came on. He landed a nice punch however.

https://vine.co/v/eI6vrbF0JXM
#28
GAA Discussion / Re: AISF Mayo v Dublin
August 30, 2015, 11:25:11 PM
I heard O'Carroll got gouged so badly that they had to stitch his whole head back on.
#29
GAA Discussion / Re: AISF Mayo v Dublin
August 30, 2015, 11:18:33 PM
Anyway we can get both teams banned?
#30
GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
August 30, 2015, 11:15:35 PM
How did O'Connor get man of the match? He's a good free taker but did barely anything in open play.