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Having finally conquered a much weakened version of their arch-nemesis last Sundau (albeit just about), supporters of the 'Kingdom' rejoiced, cried, hugged each other. This was their All-Ireland. They know what lies in store.

Their defensive coherence akin to that of the Red Sea's, the 'Kingdom' will be found out by a superior force in the final, be it Dublin or Mayo. Eamonn Fitzmaurice can only carry his beleagured troops so far. If he can seal victory with the worst ever two-in-a-row winning team in history, he deserves the height of credit. But maybe even the Lord can't make this happen for the 'Kingdom'.

With the exception of the parodical Il Bomber Destro, the Tyrone support on here have taken their beating very well. Credit it to them. Tyrone played very well. Not well enough, but they did their county, and themselves, proud.

Tyrone played very well. They were also tough but fair, for the most part, and that's not a twisted statement on my behalf. MOST teams are tough but fair for the MOST part. There was nothing exceptionally cynical about Tyrone today. They weren't the better team, but could still have won the game. They did their county proud.

Lads the hyperbole is ridiculous. Tyrone do some stuff they shouldn't, no doubt about it. It's disappointing to see and I actually don't think they need to do it. But all this stuff being shouted from the rooftops is nuts.

Good to see this AZ. Some of the stuff on Saturday was really poor - McCann in particular - but the guff on here about Tyrone as the masters of darkness or something is laughable.  Its been going on for a while now and is very unpleasant.  Some in the media peddling this line should have a look at themselves.

Speaking of the media however I read Colm Keys calling on Tyrone to come out and make some kind of statement,  an apology indeed, over the McCann incident.  I would support that, it was an embarrassing moment and they should say he regrets it greatly - I'm sure he does - and that it won't happen again.  Letting it pass without comment is wrong.  Who knows, it might even start up a proper conversation about how widespread this shite is getting and how to to stop it, in 32 counties rather than just 1

I take it from your username that you're a Tyrone man. Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU. I have never seen a Tyrone supporter providing such a balanced response.

Is it hyperbole on all of our parts? Possibly. I have never claimed that Tyrone are the only county doing it, of course they aren't. I would claim that they're the worst at it. That might be down to opinion. But they have generally been the common denominator in all the biggest incidents for 12 years or so. Or close to it.

I have also been infuriated by Tyrone fans responses over the past 12 years. They refuse to acknowledge that they are cynical at all, or brush over by pointing to other incidents by other teams. Does the term 'two wrongs don't make a right' mean anything to them?

They're a bloody good footballing county, and would have won the game the last day even more comfortably if they hadn't acted the bollox for the final ten minutes. Stick to the football lads. You're good at that. And your reputation will improve, thus helping your situation with referees. As it stands, I think they may get a very tough time up against Kerry the next day out.

We'll need to be very disciplined in this game and not let Kerry and their antics interfere with us imposing our footballing game on them. The Southern media will be in overdrive after what happened yesterday, we need to win this one for the Derrytresk lads and for the biased and hypocritical horseshit that has been circulated in the media over the years about Tyrone.

I have a feeling this poor creatur is serious!

This would be Ulsterman from Hogan Stand forum.

It's fairly clear lads ...

1. Tyrone dominated Monaghan from start to finish no question.

2. Cavanagh tried to decapitate a Monaghan player and then tried to proclaim his innocence for some unknown reason.

3. Monaghan (particularly Finlay when he came on) lost the run of themselves and should have had at least 2 men red carded.

4. Tyrone lay down like Children... Cavanagh (what? No he's not a diver)... The lad who got black carded who actually changed the angle of his run to collide with Hughes and tried ed to get him black carded... McCann (well covered and still no reasonable defence from the inbreds).

5. Trampish behaviour from McNabb digging McManus in the ribs and McMahon being generally a cnut throughout the game.

Anyway all we should be taking about is number 1 but Tyrone just can't do winning with grace. They were well on top in the game why the nonsense?? Also why does Saint Mickey Opus Dei I'm wile Holy Harte send his players out to do this shit? Its been going on for 12 years now how do hos hands continue to be kept clean with this nonsense he sends his players out to execute?

The blanket defence is one thing but sending your players out to sledge/dive/sly dig the opponent is not in the spirit of the game and while you can understand it when teams are getting beat well I find it hard to condone when your team is winning comfortably.

The only salvation is Tyrone are not at the Kerry/Dublin/Mayo level... Thank God!!!

Hmmm.

The reaction of the in-breds and the apple chompers is amusing.

What Finlay did was worse than anything that went on elsewhere.

ALL IS FORGIVEN THEN!

For the record, Tyrone were without question the better team. I just think they're classless, that's all.

Come on lad. What county are you from?

Kilkenny! Issue?

You are a Kilkenny man that loves Liam Hayes and hates Tyrone?

Kilkenny man that loves hurling AND football. Hates Kerry and Tyrone. Issue?

Gesundheit.

But why Liam Hayes?

He ain't a Kerry fan

Come on lad. What county are you from?

Kilkenny! Issue?

You are a Kilkenny man that loves Liam Hayes and hates Tyrone?

Kilkenny man that loves hurling AND football. Hates Kerry and Tyrone. Issue?

Come on lad. What county are you from?

Kilkenny! Issue?

I can't believe I'm saying this, Kerry have my backing for this one.

[So where would be place Tyrone on the scum level then? Presuming Directors of Genocide to be at the top, followed by murders, rapists, drug dealers, thieves, drunk drivers. Where would Tyrone fit in there?]

Will be great to see what a proper footballing team like Kerry will do to a team of cynical cheaters who can only win games by dishing out cheap blows on the opposition and getting opponents sent off, there is very little football ability in them, if there was all irelands for dark arts they would be going for 13 or 14 in a row

but that's the thing, there is football in them, they were excellent today and have been one of the most consistent teams in the country for 15 years. that's what makes it so disappointing when they revert to the crap.

Tony McCann shouldn't have went down like that and he should get a ban but there were 2 teams out there today.

Naw - not this time. It just won't cut it. Monaghan's problem was they just didn't know how to be as cynical

Monaghan's problem is they don't score enough. Same as ever. They have a template to win an Ulster Championship.

They have no template to win AI Titles.

They need to focus on underage and get winning them at that level first.

I don't necessarily disagree with that but it wasn't my point (its not a perfect formula either - look at cavan). I'm sick of watching football where the perpetrators are a few steps ahead  of the ref. That's Tyrone all over and Cavanagh in particular. Duffy never stood a chance

Look Tyrone have never been any different. At times they are pathetic in the way they drag the game through the mud. They truly can be a disgrace at times in the manner in which they drag the game to a base level typically seen in a Games of Thrones Episode.

But they have a brilliant manager and great development system which we ended up copying. They produce multi-adaptable , highly skilled and conditioned players in sufficient numbers to excel at inter county level. I genuinely admire them for that. When they have a weakness in an area of the pitch they put emphasis on it in the development system to ensure it doesn't happen again. That's why they are so good.

Unfortunately though they also teach some of their players to be scumbags. Why I don't know. But it's a pity because it allows everyone to forget how good some of their players are. But only they can change that

Scum is as scum does.

So where would be place Tyrone on the scum level then?

Presuming Directors of Genocide to be at the top, followed by murders, rapists, drug dealers, thieves, drunk drivers. Where would Tyrone fit in there?

When that's your defence, you might just have a problem.

Why would it need to be original? You still haven't taken in the original point!

Judging by your posts its pointing south!

By no means.