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Given that the advanced mark is coming in this year in Championship I am surprised we haven't brought in Ryan Coleman to have a look at him. We don't have many real standout target man forwards in the county right now. McNulty seems to have went really well over the club Championship but you'd have severe questions over his fitness given his past injury problems.

Not sure on this post but is McShane not the best equipped Target man in the county at the moment ? How many target men do you need.

Dungannon hurling lose on penalties!! Tyrone clubs are the English of penalty shootouts!! Rather depressing 

Dungannon played exceptional

No way to decide an Ulster Final..Hard luck to Dungannon.

Dinny you've replied to my comments on why 17 year olds drop out of sport, by citing an article about an under-14 policy in a club falling down with players.

This is not the same thing.

There may be come correlation here, but unless Nemo are also keeping their stronger juvenile players on board as well, and playing junior football while their old teammates  "jump ahead" of them, then it's the same situation anyhow.

You were talking about teenagers when I quoted you not specifically 17 years old. I think your attitude is wrong and symptomatic of why clubs are struggling with numbers. Unless a kid is competitive at x, y, z age he won't play adult sport to me is simply mind boggling. Since when did playing sport solely become about winning? No wonder clubs are dying on their feet.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/sport/493869/open-letter-a-young-player-s-view.html

Very hard to keep 16/17 year olds involved if there isn't some sort of ambition of winning games and competitions
Might as well be at home on the couch otherwise

Theres a difference between being competitive and winning. If skills have been developed properly from an early age then lads should be equipped to compete at u13/15/17/19. Doesnt mean they need to be winning everything but winning has to be possible. If they dont develop these skills they will take hammerings in these grades and soon fade away. We need to equip these lads to be able to compete.

Sorry Dinny your Non compete methods aren't getting much support on here. The whole grading ethos is there to ensure teams can be competitive at their level. The Gaa is built on competition and winning. When you remove the possibility of winning lads lose interest.

12-19 is a horrible tanking but is probably reflective of SEM and SPAD drawing last week. Top place will go to score difference and unfortunately the two new comers are in a group together against schools who have been competing at this level for ever.

Dinny you make some excellent points in this post. The one however that I would strongly disagree with is the element by which you seem to put a lot of emphasis on not instilling a winning ethos into the underage system.  I personally think that by taking this element out you begin to introduce a 5 a side sunday league mentality into underage which will ultimately take the edge of some players. My experience is that this competitive nature is what drives most youth players into senior football. I suppose it comes down to what clubs want do the want to provide a sporting outlet in their community for youth or are they in the business of creating success at senior level. My club experience is that the latter is the over arching reasons for clubs having youth teams.

Not ever player is going to play senior but a healthy club is going to be me more than your senior team. Your volunteers all come from this base, not every kid is cut out for it but maybe that's the kid down the line that will be a great coach, great administrator a great volunteer. You should always be prepared to lose matches but you shouldn't be prepared to win matches at the cost of losing players.

I don't believe competitive underage sport drives winning cultures, there is far too much emphasis on the result and not enough on the performance, if you focus on the performance and work on intrinsic motivating factors, you will find your level and become competitive as a result. It takes time and patience and teams need to be prepared to lose, what's better a for a club an u14 Feile Title or a County Minor Title?

Dinny again you make some decent points here and I admire your very holistic approach to player development but again I think you fail to address the reason that clubs put so much effort into youth development it is not to provide youth activities. Regardless of the rights or wrongs of it the primary reason is to channel footballers capable of playing senior football. Any club to be sustainable at senior level requires 2-3 players to bridge the gap to adult football. each year It is not to provide 10 pub league players each year with little or no competitive edge.

Dinny you make some excellent points in this post. The one however that I would strongly disagree with is the element by which you seem to put a lot of emphasis on not instilling a winning ethos into the underage system.  I personally think that by taking this element out you begin to introduce a 5 a side sunday league mentality into underage which will ultimately take the edge of some players. My experience is that this competitive nature is what drives most youth players into senior football. I suppose it comes down to what clubs want do the want to provide a sporting outlet in their community for youth or are they in the business of creating success at senior level. My club experience is that the latter is the over arching reasons for clubs having youth teams.

Without doubts the greatest team to ever play the game.I don't care how much money they have that is the best team I have ever had the pleasure to watch hats off up the DUBS.

Not one for stating the obvious  by just read Peter Canavans article  in the Belfast Telegraph on Friday this man was probably the greatest footballer of his age and possibly of any age but his football  commentary is right up there with his article "Why Mayo can Defy all logic and progress to semi final" I have been around football for 40 years and played against the errigal man a good few times but his call on Mayo was one of his best.

Harte has had his critics but that defeat today had nothing to do with Harte but rather it simply laid bare the lack of quality in that Tyrone squad. They were deficient in the basic skills of the game and had run out of ideas before half time. The score line completely flattered them.

What sort of deluded post is this..... How can anyone watch that today and concluded that this had nothing to do with the man that has been in charge of the team since 2003. . no doubt you believe that all Ireland wins where all Mickey but any defeat had nothing to do with him ..  Catch a f.....g grip and catch yourself on. Mickey Harte has been a beaten docket for years now and today was just another example of his lack of ability.  Tyrone will continue to promise at the highest level but will continue to fail due to the lack of managerial ability they are now the Cork of the North....This is a tough post I have been following Tyrone through thick and thin for near on 50 years now but over the last 10 years it has been really difficult due to the family take over that Tyrone has been subjected too..... Roll on the post Harte era....Tyrone Defenders no.longer can play one on one and all natural forwards have been eliminated from Tyrone panels over the past 10 tears (that is not a miss print)

General question here what is the feeling about the level of referring  in the county. My understanding is that we have lost a number of referees to other counties this year and I would wonder what the general feeling is for the level of officiating this year.Given that we have lost what is in my mind a couple of decent refs over the last few years.

I think the county board have lost the run of themselves. U14 county development squads are a complete waste of time and resources. Nothing more than a job creation scheme for The family.  This county needs to wise to f up.

The last 2 years have been very misleading. Yes we reached the semi final and then a final but we had easy runs. I dont recall tyrone beating Kerry, Mayo or Dublin in the later stages of an AI for a long time now. Point is we are way behind the top teams.

Theres no shame in losing but its the manner of our losses that bother me. Consistently trying to defend while we are getting beat by 3-4points. Would rather tyrone go all out and playing attacking football and get beat by 10 points than watch them defend a 3 point loss.

This is why i have for years said its time for mickey to go. Hes far too stubborn to change, watching tyrone year after year with the same issues at fault is like ground hog day.

Common question is who will replace him? My answer is who cares. So we dont win the mckenna cup big deal. With monaghan, armagh and donegal improving Tyrone wont win ulster with thr current style of play

Honestly think this post sums it up for me. I am just tired watching Tyrone play in the robotic way of the last few years and people wanting to keep a failed system of play because Mickey wants to stay on in his job.

Imagine when he leaves and we drop down to the same level as some of the other previously successful counties like Down, Armagh or Derry have done in recent years. There will be some yapping done then, god help who is in charge at that point. The issue is we hit a golden generation of players in the 2000s and combined it with a great manager leading to unbelievable success for a county like Tyrone. This has lead to supporters being spoilt.

We have still did well in recent years and 25 plus counties would love to be in our position. It's easy when a county is doing less well after such success to have someone to blame like the manager. It's an easy excuse for not supporting the team when they aren't winning All Irelands.

My God that is some rant. I have nothing personal against Mickey and I understand we got to an All Ireland last year but let's face facts our run to the final last year was hardly laced with outstanding victories against top opposition. We were beat 3 times in the champions in one year....for what it's worth it is my opinion that the time for change was a few years ago and we have got ourselves into a position that the management of our county has become a full time post in which we have allowed people to become dependent  on to allow them to earn a living and it becomes very difficult for either party to let go. It is only an opinion don't shoot me for it.

1    Niall Morgan           Éadan na dTorc
2   Michael McKernan   Oileán a'Ghuail
3   Ronan McNamee   Achadh Uí Aráin
4   Hugh Pat McGeary   Cabhán a'Chaortainn
5   Tiernan McCann           Coill an Chlochair
6   Rory Brennan           Trí Leac
7   Peter Harte           Aireagal Chiaráin
8   Brian Kennedy           Doire Lochain
9   Declan McClure           Cluain Eo
10   Matthew Donnelly   Trí Leac
11   Niall Sludden           An Droim Mhór
12   Kieran McGeary           Cabhán a'Chaortainn
13   Darren McCurry           Éadan na dTorc
14   Cathal McShane     E. R. Uí Néill
15   Lee Brennan           Trí Leac
16   Benny Gallen           Achadh Uí Aráin
17   Frank Burns           Cabhán a'Chaortainn
18   Kyle Coney           Ard Bó
19   Conan Grugan           An Ómaigh
20   Conal McCann           Coill an Chlochair
21   Aidan McCrory           Aireagal Chiaráin
22   Ben McDonnell           Aireagal Chiaráin
23   Ciaran McLaughlin   An Ómaigh
24   Conor Meyler           An Ómaigh
25   Ronan O'Neill           An Ómaigh
26   Liam Rafferty           An Gallbhaile

Was Mickey even at the game last Sunday?

Mickey ran out off ideas many years ago. To long in the tooth. Should have been gone years ago but the wise people in the county board bottled it no doubt Mickey will be there next year the year after and on and on.......

really disappointed to hear young canavan has joined the panel. whats the rush? in 2 years time harte will be gone and that's the time for the new manager to bring this lad in as a 20 yr old ready for action. harte just doesn't know what to do with these talented youngsters. young canavan could end up the latest potential star that never made it.

Starting to wonder if I am not a parody of STG but I have got to agree young Canavan was a super youth player. But putting him straight in is not advisable give him a year or two to mature.