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#16
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 22, 2018, 05:02:45 PM
Quote from: Localexpert on October 22, 2018, 03:53:07 PM
WHAT A DAY!!!!!!!!!

great to see the lads put to bed all the shite talking people have subjected them to about lying down and no balls etc etc when for example carrickmore lost 3/4 finals this decade you wouldn't hear that levelled at them (and rightly so because they're a great club).

2nd win this decade and only omagh can match it and shows every club that you can do it with your own club volunteers instead of spending a fortune on jokers who only care about the cash they're taking off you. 

Don't know where the bad behaviour of coalisland supporters and management are coming from I'd like to hear the examples on that one.  I was in the stand but heard last night that 2 middle aged eejits 1 from coalisland and 1 from killyclogher had a bit of fisty cuffs but that was quickly broken up by supporters so can hardly tar everyone with the same brush as 2 people.

Great party had by all just a pity ca$hidy isn't still with clonoe to lead the guard of honour next week  ::)


Its terrible you cant even take your win with a bit of dignity. Id say nobody around coalisland has much time for you! Clonoe were beat in the first round and Cassidy isint the manager any more, your win has nothing to do with them. Let it go and move on.  I wouldnt think yous will get any guard of honor next week either but could be wrong.
#18
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone County Football and Hurling
August 27, 2018, 04:25:38 PM
Does anybody on here have any predictions for the game on Sunday? how do you see it going personnel and tactic wise?
#19
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
July 05, 2018, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: The Trap on July 05, 2018, 11:17:55 AM
Another incident caught on camera in Dromore last night. Dromore v Dungannon minor championship trouble on sideline and in crowd......no wonder these things are happening all too frequently when nobody ever seems to get punished. And when they do a la Under 20 final the majority of people get off!

Not the first time Dromore have been involved in that kind of stuff.
#20
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 09, 2018, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on April 09, 2018, 09:18:22 AM
Quote from: Moortown Spuds on April 08, 2018, 10:30:54 PM
I heard he was judased from behind and that he's not a bit well.

Damian Barton is fine, just to stop that particular rumour.

What Bigtogs leaves out is why Barton was on the field 10 minutes into the second half, Clonoe had just scored a goal to take it to a 4 point game, Edendork then scored a goal of their own. After that goal two Clonoe players had wrestled and tore the Edendork player to the ground attempting to hit him off the post - he, rightly was worried about the safety of his player.



If the above incident doesn't happen, the absolute mess of the following ten minutes doesn't happen. The game was lucky to be finished, I thought it was going to be abandoned.

Wrong!! Thats not why Barton was on the pitch that particular time, but he was on it so often its easy to get confused!
#21
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 28, 2017, 12:25:54 PM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 28, 2017, 12:04:55 PM
Surely you are not telling the truth?

You are claiming one club in Tyrone are paying an inside man to manage their club - unbelievable if true...?

It should be classed as an honour to manage your own club, you should be well aware of the pro's and con's of doing the job but to ask for payment is scandalous. 

Do you know this for a fact or is it just a rumour you heard?
What division of club is it?

With the amount of time required and the amount of pressure placed on top managers nowadays its only fair that they get some sort of compensation. Im sure if there is a manager taking money from his own club its only a small amount to cover him for his time and effort.
#22
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 22, 2017, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: In hiding on September 21, 2017, 11:56:18 PM
Isn't it great how well behaved the ardboe lads are when you get them away from the loughshore.

Great insight there lad
#23
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 15, 2017, 08:36:43 AM
Quote from: Mikhailov on September 14, 2017, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 14, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: redhandofgod on September 14, 2017, 03:41:26 PM
id say moy v cookstown and pomeroy v clonoe will be on together probably in edendork.

I have to say I find Edendork a terrible venue for a match - too open to the elements and there is little atmosphere created during games due to the vastness of the terrace.

Surely Senior championship games should be played at venues with a bit a shelter for the patrons - I can think of 10 better venues:



Pomeroy
Omagh
Carmen
Dungannon
Dumoyle
Killyclogher
Galbally
Augher
Loughmacrory
Coalisland

To that list you could add the following who have covered terracing;

Moy
Donaghmore
Greencastle
Kildress
Ardboe
Kileeshil
Trillick
Beragh
Fintona

Admittedly a few of them are not located centrally to accommodate games but I would travel the extra distance if it meant I was going to be sheltered...

At least the surface is good in Edendork which in my opinion is more important than having a covered stand, you mentioned the Moy here it is one of the worst surfaces in the county a lot of others you mentioned would hardly be suitable for championship football. Edendork has been a championship venue for a long time and will continue to be.
#24
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 16, 2017, 12:41:57 PM
Quote from: In hiding on June 16, 2017, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: Up The Middle on June 16, 2017, 08:45:18 AM
Quote from: In hiding on June 16, 2017, 08:42:06 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on June 16, 2017, 05:20:32 AM
Quote from: In hiding on June 15, 2017, 09:48:11 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on June 15, 2017, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: In hiding on June 15, 2017, 07:57:27 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on June 15, 2017, 09:55:14 AM
Quote from: WT4E on June 15, 2017, 09:42:36 AM
Two players going at it is tolerable

Mentors getting involved with players should not be tolerated and good to see Daisy getting suspended.

But non playing non coaching people storming the field is a disgrace and there should be a far heavier punishment for this as it sends out a message that this is okay!

Also would be good to know if Clonoe as a club would discipline grey hoodie as he was way over the line.


To be honest i would think not....no point telling a lie about it.... But i know there has been a meeting about it and field security was top of the agenda....
Just on a note on field Security....you hand an away team and your own team 5 passes... the left overs stand outside the wire a while and then just hop over the fence...You can maybe monitor your own people but you have no chance with an away team....

I will give you an Example we played Omagh in Clonoe last year... Their Senior players and management refused to even wait to the reserve match was over....some ignored our man doing the gate entering the field most just hoped the wire and started warming up with about 10 mins of the Reserve game to go...

Did they warm up on the pitch while the reserve game was still on ???

Actually was that the game where the clonoe substitute/water carrier hit one of the Omagh players. One of the gallaghers I think


Might have been, a future county trainor hit him i think and then searched the country for some man to take the blame because he was a school teacher...

Didn't realise anyone got blamed for the strike. Don't think it was caught on camera, or maybe it was

It was the same day when your senior team warmed during the reserve game yes...

What a crime, warming up during the reserve game. Behind the goals I presume ?

No from what I remember it was in the bottom corner of the pitch and up and down the sideline. At least 20 of them and the reserve game still going.
At least 20 !!!

That's a lot of players to be holding back from playing reserves. But I'm sure that you are not exaggerating

If you go by under lights thinking on this "SOMEONE COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED!" a reserve player could have ran into one of the lads warming up and killed him
#25
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 15, 2017, 11:53:14 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on June 15, 2017, 11:18:22 AM
Do you not see me on my high perch, face dry, absent of tears. I condemn both clubs, particularly Clonoe in this instance. Not Just or man enough to stop non-players entering the field of play but willing to punch unconscious men in the head. The County's Justice would suggest they should have had two men suspended and their field closed for a period of time, a month say. 300 Euro fine wouldn't even cover two training sessions for their paid manager. This reaks of corruption.

Pitch closed over a one minute scuffle with about 4 punches thrown?? lol wise up
#26
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 14, 2017, 04:49:30 PM
Quote from: Under Lights on June 14, 2017, 03:32:31 PM
Quote from: blackball on June 14, 2017, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 14, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
All the apologists are out in full force I see.

The book needs thrown at both clubs for this.

The total incident lasted less than a minute, Daisey threw two punches at the clonoe player, he then got knocked down with a shoulder and hit one punch on the ground. There was no other fighting after everyone saw that he was knocked out. All the players shook hands and walked off. There was no reason to abandon the game never mind throw the book at both teams.

'Supporters'/Non Togged out players enter the field of play and cause a melee.
I'm not over reacting here when I say someone might have been killed in that incident.
This needs a stern hand from the CCCCCCCCCC. Anything else will be injustice to Drumquin.

Someone could have got killed alright but it wasnt very likely. Few punches threw and players sorted it out and got it calmed down themselves because the man that was supposed to be sorting it out ran into the changing room.
#27
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
June 14, 2017, 03:28:20 PM
Quote from: Taylor on June 14, 2017, 02:18:29 PM
All the apologists are out in full force I see.

The book needs thrown at both clubs for this.

The total incident lasted less than a minute, Daisey threw two punches at the clonoe player, he then got knocked down with a shoulder and hit one punch on the ground. There was no other fighting after everyone saw that he was knocked out. All the players shook hands and walked off. There was no reason to abandon the game never mind throw the book at both teams.
#28
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
April 27, 2017, 12:59:50 PM
Quote from: redhandefender on April 27, 2017, 10:16:18 AM
Quote from: The Golden Years on April 27, 2017, 09:00:29 AM
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Quote from: The Golden Years on April 27, 2017, 07:42:57 AM
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Quote from: redhandefender on April 26, 2017, 09:12:19 AM
Quote from: Fuzzman on April 25, 2017, 02:53:46 PM
I never see any club games any more as live in Dublin but from the games played so far are there some teams moving away from the overly defensive systems and lining out more traditionally?

Redhand you think that sweepers and blanket defenses arent wide spread in Tyrone?? Catch a grip man. most under 16 and minor teams are doing it! Never mind senior teams!!

I think you are buying in to the southern media fella, some big teams might employ that against certain teams they need to stop and certainly some teams will still play with a sweeper if needs be but I don't think it has ever been a widespread thing in tyrone. Games I have seen have all been enjoyable.

Are you deluded?  We played Pomeroy, Killyclogher and Strabane to date and everyone one of them used very defensive systems.  Its leaving games hard to watch.

Deluded in what sense? How do you know what games I have watched. Pomeroy are only up of course they were gonna try go defensive, strabane had just been destroyed the week before so had to go defensive I don't know about killyclogher. I always found your games hard to watch to be fair, they are generally more about brute strength and defence than football

Your deluded to the fact that you think that the defensive systems used in Tyrone football is a myth created by the southern media. Watch Tyrone play for start, they play defensive system. A lot of clubs play it to because they think it will get them success but all it will do is create a poor spectacle with the stronger team still winning. You also contradict yourself by first stating that some big teams use it when they need to stop certain teams but when I mentioned teams that we played which are not classified as the big teams that play defensive you say that they have to use it. No team has to play that way. Also respect people's opinions with out giving a remark trying to get a response. It shows your level of intelligence. You just go and watch this entertaining football. It would suit you better if you could even tells us what or where these games are and maybe we could have an intelligent discussion on these.

Firstly I didn't say they were a myth, maybe read my comments. I said sweepers were being used but not all the time. Secondly, I have not seen a match where a club set up the way tyrone currently do unless they are in complete desperation. I would imagine as they don't have the players to break like that.

Fair enough, what I meant to say was some teams use it to stop big teams, I may have got that the wrong way around.

Fella if you go look at the Division 1 league table after 3 games, Carrickmore have scored less than anyone in the entire league in fact its 4th lowest in the entire county so I am not surprised you are having a cry. Maybe go see another club this weekend

Do I sense I touch of envy in your posts? And there is you trying to prove your intelligence by using stats. As the famous quote goes "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics"

Envy of what? Being from Caaaarmen hi boy lol. Its football lad, I have a life outside it, I go to games some are good some are bad its not all doom and gloom (unless you are a carrickmore fan) by the looks of it.

Show me the lie in what I said? I provided figures and provided you with empathy for your current plight.

You used the Donald Trump school of retorts!


Redhand you think that sweepers and blanket defenses arent wide spread in Tyrone?? Catch a grip man. most under 16 and minor teams are doing it! Never mind nearly all the senior teams!! very few good games of football to be watched these days at club or county level.
#29
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
February 16, 2017, 12:14:58 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on February 16, 2017, 09:58:58 AM
Quote from: an léirmheastóir on February 16, 2017, 09:03:15 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on February 14, 2017, 06:33:58 PM
Quote from: an léirmheastóir on February 11, 2017, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: Gonzalo15 on February 10, 2017, 08:56:01 AM
http://saoradh.ie/psni-to-train-coalisland-kids-through-gaa-boxing-club-saoradh-nuacht/ any word of this?


Big statement from a grouping with no mandate. Also calling to a pensioners house at 10:30 on a cold winters night, is that not a bit intimidating. Be interesting to know how many really objected to this scheme. I know a few people were not happy when they heard about it. It certainly is a real change in circumstances considering the areas history.


What part of what they wrote did you not agree with...Out of a matter of interest...

Did I say I didn't agree with it?




Good enough...Very sensitive in any Gaa club these issues...

Sure the text message clearly states that if you are not happy to let your child go then its understandable so dont send them to it. Seems straight forward enough
#30
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 31, 2016, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on October 31, 2016, 03:54:12 PM
Quote from: blackball on October 31, 2016, 03:25:18 PM
Quote from: left peg on October 31, 2016, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: blackball on October 31, 2016, 01:14:32 PM
Quote from: left peg on October 31, 2016, 09:36:58 AM
Tiernan McCann to get filled before the throw in, what comes around goes around!!

I think you mean  "What goes around, comes around"
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Yeah thanks for pointing that out

your very welcome

I think you meant you're ;)

;D you're right! thanks for pointing that out