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I've electric, love it. The big initial concern is the range, but having had it for over a year now inclined to think thats somewhat of a red herring. As Seafoid says, charging is done at home; the public network is generally for getting you home, if you look at it that way then 15 min on public charger is often enough when required. Obv won't suit some people; most of my driving is within 20 miles of home tbf, but there are regular enough longer trips and also have had it in Kerry for a week.

Did you get the proper charger at home or just the 3 pin plug?

Proper charger,  would say that's a must. The 3 pin did rightly for the week in Kerry though

I'm leasing johnnycool - I think it makes sense even if not most financially efficient; the tech is changing rapidly so risky to rely on good second hand value imo

I've got a few months to sort out a charger, 6 month waiting list, so I'll get some prices. The 3 pin charger is handy to have if you're stuck though.

Malachy Clerkin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pK4DkCcAWA

That's the first I heard Donal Og's rant. The 'nephew knowing all the Liverpool team' is a complete nonsense argument. He more than likely knows the Liverpool team through FIFA and stuff like that. My lad is 12 and can't sit and watch games but he knows players from everywhere through the playstation or else through youtube shorts/tiktok. The days of everyone round the TV on a Sunday afternoon are gone. Kids are bombarded with small snippets of information at all times and if the GAA can't break into that area somehow it's not going to get noticed.

I've electric, love it. The big initial concern is the range, but having had it for over a year now inclined to think thats somewhat of a red herring. As Seafoid says, charging is done at home; the public network is generally for getting you home, if you look at it that way then 15 min on public charger is often enough when required. Obv won't suit some people; most of my driving is within 20 miles of home tbf, but there are regular enough longer trips and also have had it in Kerry for a week.

Did you get the proper charger at home or just the 3 pin plug?

Extension lead out the window will do the trick. 

I'm looking at a Kia all electric one, the Niro, but not sure I want to buy it outright... A three year deal and then hand it back is something I'd normally not entertain, but with the battery car I'm in two minds.

I went with the lease - first time I've done it. I looked at the Niro but went with the Volvo XC40. The Audi Q4 was nearly an option but the new model came in and pushed it out of my price range.

I've electric, love it. The big initial concern is the range, but having had it for over a year now inclined to think thats somewhat of a red herring. As Seafoid says, charging is done at home; the public network is generally for getting you home, if you look at it that way then 15 min on public charger is often enough when required. Obv won't suit some people; most of my driving is within 20 miles of home tbf, but there are regular enough longer trips and also have had it in Kerry for a week.

Did you get the proper charger at home or just the 3 pin plug?

https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2023/0503/1380408-eu-ban-petrol-diesel-cars-2035-emissions-standards-euro-7/Ultimately, the ban in 2035 won't kill the majority of petrol and diesel models, but it will be caused by a simple financial decision by automakers as they react to tightening emission standards and fleet average efficiency requirements. This is already clearly reflected in the long-term development plans for the majority of manufacturers. Mercedes-Benz, Stellantis (Chrysler, Fiat, Peugeot, Citroen), Jaguar, Volvo, Ford and VW Group (Audi, Seat, Skoda) all plan to cease the sale of petrol and diesel models far ahead of the ban.

I have had very bad experiences with electric vehicles and the lack of convenient and working charging points in recent years which I've found to be a real pity. My wife has a plug in hybrid and it's a complete joy to drive. With the mileage I cover and the nature of my driving I think I'm at least one car away from going fully electric and even at that I'm still concerned. I think the infrastructure really needs to keep pace with the car development now.

EV cars will never be mainstream. Anyone buying one would need their head looked at. They'll be obsolete before they catch on. Another fuel most likely hydrogen will outstrip them just purely because of the ease of refuelling. Who the f**k has time to wait on a car charging up? Not me anyway.

Of course they'll become mainstream. Seafoid has explained it well. Why would any manufacturer invest in 2 sets of technologies and maintain 2 sets of production plants and processes, when their customer only needs one?

Car manufacturers aren't controlled by petrol heads. They're controlled by accountants.

Neil deGrasse Tyson said on a podcast (think it was Rogan) that over the next 20 years the change to EVs will be similar to the move to motor cars from horse & carriage. It's just going to happen whether you agree or not.
As stated by NAG1 business fleets will be the driver behind the change because. This will also have a knock on effect on the petrol/diesel vehicles available to buy 2nd hand in 2/3/4 years time.
I debated between petrol/hybrid/full EV and went with the EV. It drove better than the hybrid and it was nicely kitted out. Just ordered so don't have it yet but I think it makes sense in the long run. It'll be used by herself mostly and I'll have a diesel for my work stuff for a while yet.

Eire Og Craigavon Co Armagh. (Young Irelanders)

Ballela in Down are also Eire Og