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#1246
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 19, 2016, 08:53:28 PM
Quote from: imagine on May 19, 2016, 07:00:04 PM
Quote from: Smurfy123 on May 19, 2016, 06:06:35 PM
Yawn?
It's a discussion board you fool
Have a look at your own comments then talk about yawn
Just my opinion.


Then you would be better articulating it rather than taking the piss out of someone who has written a fairly lengthy counter argument to a previous point.
#1247
General discussion / Re: Query for Ulster folk
May 19, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 19, 2016, 11:40:59 AM
Thon One
Yon One
Don Juan


You forgot Chung Wan.
#1248
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 18, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on May 18, 2016, 10:53:05 PM
LVG is a bluffer. I never was convinced about him, but if he'd at least be honest and admit things will take time, we're in transition etc, then fair enough. But he's trying to bluff everyone and nobody is buying his crap. For the guts of the last 2 seasons, I mute every interview he does and don't read anything he says (That'll show him!). I can't be arsed listening to his crap.

Then how do you know if he hasn't said it'll take time? I think he has said something along those lines this season?
#1249
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 15, 2016, 10:22:21 PM
You couldn't make it up.
#1250
General discussion / Re: Irish News
May 15, 2016, 05:51:49 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 15, 2016, 05:47:44 PM
Quote from: Arthur_Friend on May 15, 2016, 05:31:57 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 15, 2016, 05:01:08 PM
Rubbish,it's the doctrine that matters not the human people.No one defends the likes of Brendan Smyth.

It's still optional to accept or reject belief in God,and if the Catholic Church were tinkering with doctrine to increase popularity then your argument would have an element of truth.

Does it sayanywhere in the Bible priests should be celibate?

Must be just in the catholic bible

Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe that in medieval times, priests were allowed to marry. Therefore you would have to assume that the New Testament doesn't have much to say about it.
#1251
GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin
May 15, 2016, 04:55:47 PM
Quote from: Beffs on May 15, 2016, 04:10:00 PM
Yeah, that worked out real well for the Cork footballers, didn't it?  ::)

You can do plenty of team bonding at Carton House or Fota. Or at any number of other venues around the country. You don't need to get on a plane and fly to Portugal to do that.

I said that was the benefit to the teams from a training/tactical point of view. As I said in a different post, I wouldn't begrudge IC players a week away after all that they put into the game. Is going abroad that much more expensive than Carlton House? Honest question, is the place not meant to cost a fortune? Besides, anyone can turn up and watch what you're doing.
#1252
GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin
May 15, 2016, 03:38:29 PM
Quote from: Beffs on May 15, 2016, 02:59:26 PM
I'm having a hard time seeing how a 5 day, warm weather training camp in the middle of April is going to benefit you massively in August or September. I understand the sports science behind them, but there is such a big gap between when these training camps take place and the champo really gets going, can they really be of that much use, in the heat of championship? I think it's interesting that the Dubs don't go on them.

I think the primary benefit of them would be the team bonding aspect that comes with it.
#1253
GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin
May 15, 2016, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 15, 2016, 02:27:13 PM
Quote from: Zulu on May 15, 2016, 02:01:53 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 15, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
You can monitor it effectively.
The way around it is all the external funding that bigger counties are able to bring in, that would allow them to bypass the 'transparent' funding pathways.
Your solution Zulu, is no solution.
The money is not there to bring most counties anywhere near to Dublins standard, although it's not purely a question of money.
By your rationale, if one of the Sheikhs decided to hand Kildare a blank cheque every year it would be up to everyone else to find some russian oligarch or chinese tycoon to bankroll them.
It's a race to the bottom and to be honest I find it immoral that counties would spend exorbitant amounts of money preparing one team.
That money could be put to much better use developing and supporting the game within their own county.

How do you expect the GAA to be able to enforce a €500,000 cap for all 32 counties and in both codes? It's impossible.

I'm also not saying we should be spending huge sums of money on IC but I don't see how capping spending so that we all can only invest X amount is a workable solution to anything.

Where should we force counties to cut down their spend - on S&C? On medical care? On travelling expenses? On gear or food for players?

I think the training weekends abroad should be banned personally.Not necessary.


To a certain extent I agree with this, but at the same time it's a nice reward for the players who train hard all year round with little reward.
#1254
GAA Discussion / Re: Dublin
May 15, 2016, 10:13:21 AM
http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2016/0515/788523-longford-determined-despite/


I think Connerton's comments speak volumes really. When even the manager of a county in Leinster is saying there's nothing really to play for in terms of winning silverware, the province is f*cked.
#1255
General discussion / Re: Irish News
May 15, 2016, 10:06:22 AM
Quote from: Main Street on May 15, 2016, 12:42:39 AM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on May 14, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 14, 2016, 09:26:27 PM


It's reckoned that around  half the catholic priests are gay. There are a higher % of priests who are gays  working in the Vatican,


I suppose you've done the surveys yourself on this? What's the breakdown in figures?
You don't take issue with the Vatican owning italy's biggest gay sauna? ;D

The research stats go from 30 to 60% of catholic priests are actively gay, gay inclined or had homosexual experiences.
"Beyond these estimates, of course, are priests who remain confused about their orientation and men who have so successfully denied their orientation, that in spite of predominately same-sex erotic fantasies, they insist that they are heterosexual."



https://xcjournal.org/the-errors-of-catholicism/homosexual-priests/

Surveys sent to 500 random priests by Rev. Thomas Crangle,  a Franciscan priest in 1990 received 398 responses, with 45% confirming that they were gay. Other surveys and estimates reflect a percentage of between 20 and 50 percent. An NBC report found that anywhere from 23 to 58 percent of Catholic clergy have homosexual orientation."


"An estimate of the number of gays in U.S. seminaries and the priesthood range from 25 percent to 50 percent, according to a review of research by the Rev. Donald Cozzens psychologist, and Catholic seminary president  and author of "The Changing Face of the Priesthood." 

Roman Catholic Gay Priests: Internalized Homophobia, Sexual Identity, and Psychological Well-Being
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257635776_Roman_Catholic_Gay_Priests_Internalized_Homophobia_Sexual_Identity_and_Psychological_Well-Being
Using convenience sampling, a national sample of 156 actively ministering or
retired Roman Catholic priests was obtained. One hundred and five (105) of these priests
identified as gay/homosexual (67.3 %


Fair enough then, I stand corrected. As regards the sauna, I wanted to challenge what I believed was a sweeping statement with made up stats (just disproved), rather than whether they owned a sauna. It is hypocritical however.
#1256
General discussion / Re: Irish News
May 14, 2016, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 14, 2016, 09:26:27 PM


It's reckoned that around  half the catholic priests are gay. There are a higher % of priests who are gays  working in the Vatican,


I suppose you've done the surveys yourself on this? What's the breakdown in figures?
#1257
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
May 12, 2016, 10:27:48 PM
Quote from: Line Ball on May 12, 2016, 08:35:29 PM
I too expect us to get close to Monaghan . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . actually close to Clones before we realise that we are going to get a hiding.  We'll be lucky if it doesn't get into double figures.

Unfortunately I think that you mightn't be too far from the truth here. I think the fact that 'a performance' would be cited as a positive really shows where things are in the county. Hoping for a win obviously but I don't think it's going to happen.
#1258
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 10, 2016, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on May 10, 2016, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: GJL on May 10, 2016, 07:30:52 PM
West Ham fans smash up the Utd coach outside the ground with team inside it. The club will be in bother over that I guess.
Match delayed until 8:30 lucky it wasn't postponed after that carry on from West ham supporters.

Unless you're the West Ham vice chairman who believes the police were 'kind' to United and a 15 minute postponement would have been ample.
#1259
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 07, 2016, 01:43:47 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 07, 2016, 01:38:12 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on May 07, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 07, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
At least Martial is up top.

Curse of the GAA Board commentator.

I know. And boy how he has been missed. Playing with no striker (Rooney standing up there nominally) as Rashford is not even on the bench. I understand resting players but fail to win here and you're done. Should have had him on the bench at least. Rubbish so far.

The first half of the game has confirmed to me that LVG needs to go. It's not that he hasn't brought the results, but that the style of play is simply awful, and it doesn't look like he's developing a team. With the exception of Martial, almost all the imports have been ruined by him - Di Maria, Falcao (arguably finished anyway), Depay and Darmian were all well thought of before coming to Utd. And the young players that have excelled have done so through necessity - the likes of Pereira, Wilson and Januzaj can't get into the team or are away on loan when they should be playing with United and forming a side for the future. 
#1260
General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
May 07, 2016, 01:03:08 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on May 07, 2016, 12:14:45 PM
At least Martial is up top.

Curse of the GAA Board commentator.