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Scumbags can be killed as well. Going by this and other articles, it's a fair guess to say that plenty of them have been killed already and probably had little plaques erected in their memory in Helmand, Basra and Lisburn.

Or Shoot to Kill websites dedicated to them....

clear as mud? did you even read my post?
what was that about last year when ni players were asked to get uk passports?

Yes I did read your post.  You stated what you believed should happen.  Not what actually has or does happen.

NI players are no longer required to have UK passports.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/2006/0619/passports.html

eg, surely ni wouldnt want to 'force' players to play for them. regardless of what fifa rule (and its more likely they'll take this into account in any decision), fifa are not sovereign and any decision can be appealed to the courts. the courts will HAVE to rule that any citizen of a state has equal rights with all other citizens (if they were to rule any other way the world as we know it is f*"ked). thus under the gfa where we recognised consent the uk recognised the right of people in the north to be irish, irish citizens in the north will be able to play for ireland/roi. this is right and how it should be....

You can play for Northern Ireland by solely holding an Irish Passport.  Therefore you are not being denied your right to express your Irishness by being picked for and playing for Northern Ireland while not being eligable to play for the Republic.

Clear as mud really...

depoliticise the team by removing he exclsuively unionist monocultural trappings and hence produce a team that both communities might be able to owe allegiance to.

Once again I ask you to show me how the Northern Ireland football team or it's supporters display 'exclusively Unionist monocultural trappings'.  .

Are you, by any chance, blind?

OK. I'll ask you then.  How do the Northern Ireland football team or its supporters display 'exclusively Unionist monocultural trappings'?

depoliticise the team by removing he exclsuively unionist monocultural trappings and hence produce a team that both communities might be able to owe allegiance to.

Once again I ask you to show me how the Northern Ireland football team or it's supporters display 'exclusively Unionist monocultural trappings'.  .

The Northern Ireland football team itself is made up of members of both prominent communtiies in Northern Ireland.

Reading 70 pages of OWC waffle is enough to kill a man   

Sure you can make a start after 4.00 when there is nobody here to talk to you

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SP8YysmbV1M&mode=related&search=

The chance would be a fine thing

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For some clarity why don't you read the seventy odd page thread on OWC.  For further clarity why don't you read FIFA's rules.

Why?  Does volume imply clarity?

Seventy pages would indicate that it is a complictated topic.  Reading the thread will confim this.

Happy days.

/Jim.

Nice that you signed off with the name of a Northern Ireland fanzine.  Happy Days indeed Jim

Also there is no such team as the "Republic of Ireland" The scoreboard at Lansdowne Road/Croke Park describes this team as "Ireland" as do the match programmes, and the team can be selected from all 32 counties of Ireland and regulalry features in the squad Derry's Darren Gibson plus a host of others born in the 6 counties in under age teams

So the scoreboard says it then it's true.

It seems FIFA think differently

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.htmll

Couldn't resist posting this link btw

It seems UEFA agree with FIFA

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/standings/round=2241/group=2633.html

As for Gibson.  How many appearences has he made to date?  He can carry as many cones and move as many nets in training all he likes.

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FAI can pick from any of the 32 counties ,hardly partitionist ...... 

I think you will find this is currently being disputed with no ruling as yet.

It may be being disputed but the outcome is quite clear, that the FAI can pick people born on this Island. FIFA are never going to overrrule an act of law i.e what was created by the Good Friday Agreement. If someone has an irish passport then they are an irish citizen and have the exact same status as anyone currently playing for the Repbublic.

For some clarity why don't you read the seventy odd page thread on OWC.  For further clarity why don't you read FIFA's rules.

FAI can pick from any of the 32 counties ,hardly partitionist ...... 

I think you will find this is currently being disputed with no ruling as yet.

Yes I am a fan of the Republic of Ireland and yes in doing so it also recognises the partition of ireland? But it is a better alternative than supporing the North with there being no union jacks, british anthems etc, you have to accept that?

Im not knocking you just interested in your take re supporting the Republic and the partition of Ireland.

Re flags & anthems.  There is a fan driven Sea of Green initiative and people have been encouraged not to take the Union Flag to internationals.  I have already explained the debate around the anthem.  I for one would prefer a change.

They tried to get me to accompany them to a game but i politely declined. when i told them that i couldn't support the North as in my opinion it would be accepting the partition of ireland they accepted my argument. But i wouldn't say any of them used their support as a badge of political identity.

Do you support the Republic of Ireland football team?  If you do does this not show your acceptance in the partition of Ireland?

Not staunch loayalists?

Why then does the following take place:

Use of England's National Anthem.

There is no use of the English National Anthem.  It is the anthem of the United Kingdom.  Don't let facts get in the way of your prejudices.  Just a note on the anthem.  There is a continious debate among Northern Ireland fans on what anthem should be used.  Some in favour of leaving things as they (does not make them Staunch Loyalists btw) and others who would prefer something more specific to Northern Ireland.

Insertion of the words No Surrender into the aforementioned anthem

To be utterly condemned and indeed has been by many on OWC.

Continuous cries of No Surrender during games

Once again utter bollox.

Sacking their captain for organising an innocuous All Ireland team to play a friendly.

Lies

Inisceithleann your argument would hold water if indeed North of Ireland "fans" were indeed football fans. They are first and foremost staunch unionists/loyalists who use a so called international football team as a badge of political identity. Therein lies the crux of the problem

You still haven't explained how Northern Ireland fans display 'exclusively unionist symbols' from a previous thread.