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#1201
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 10, 2017, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: honthecounty on October 10, 2017, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.

From what i heat Lynch has the option to be included and is taking time to think about it. Has been a great servant for his county.

Don't understand why Heavron isn't on the panel, he's been one of if not the our most consistent performers. Really strange call

Perhaps himself and McErlean had a rift a club level, only thing I could maybe think off.
#1202
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 10, 2017, 02:27:20 PM
Sean Brady is not on panel.

Can confirm it is not an initial panel with senior players to be added as Chrissy McKaigue, Ciaran McFaul, Enda Lynn, Karl McKaigue, Carlus McWilliams and others are on it.

Also talking to a club mate of one of the high profile players left out. He said the player found out through one of the players who had been asked up to the panel and has heard no word from management yet as to why he was left out. I don't expect squad players who have been called up close to championship to get a personal phone call as to why he hasn't been picked the following year but if a player gives 6 or 7 years to the county and is one of the more dedicated players and leading performers within the group surely a phone call from new management is the way to go?
#1203
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 10, 2017, 01:16:58 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 10, 2017, 01:06:59 PM
You can add Emmett McGuckin on to the list of absentees - also not called up


So far Lynch, Kielt, Heavron, McGuckin.

Wonder what goalkeepers are on panel, was Postie asked back?

Don't know how a starting player can go from main player to not needed within 2/3 months. I know all managers will have difference in opinion on certain players but to not make a 30-40 man panel is some drop.
#1204
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 10, 2017, 10:24:36 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 10, 2017, 09:02:54 AM
Quote from: lenny on October 09, 2017, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: honthecounty on October 09, 2017, 05:02:21 PM
I hear a few big names not included in senior panel, biggest surprise being benny heron after a very good championship, any truth in this ?

It'll be very interesting to see this panel. If Benny heron and Danny heavron aren't on it will be a major shock as they are the prototype athletic modern day footballer and both are top quality players.

Hearing last night that Herron nor Heavron have been included in the Derry panel and that neither have been spoken to in any regard by the manager. These two lads along with James Kielt have been probably our best and most consistent operators in the Derry jersey over the past few seasons! What is the thinking behind it? Surely they'll be returning/called up for the league? Correct me if i'm wrong but arent these players all around the 25/26 year old mark? Prime age!

Benny would be 25/26 I think and Kielt and Heavron around 28 as both were on the same minor team. Not sure the thinking behind it at all but if Damien expects to do well with the majority of his squad being u21 then it's just as naive as playing 40 yards of space in front of Clifford. Also if Slaughtneil come out of ulster again that's another 4/5 key players missing the first few league games which could have a lasting impact on the season.

Saying that, in Barton's two years they pulled Tyrone out of the hat in first round of ulster. A kinder draw this year could maybe help Derry gain a bit of confidence but from what i'm hearing early on the signs aren't good.
#1205
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 09, 2017, 10:06:33 AM
Quote from: NatSoSaff on October 09, 2017, 09:18:05 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.

Any big shock omissions or additions/returns to the Derry senior panel?

Heard Mark Lynch, James Kielt and Danny Heavron aren't part of it. Very youthful squad
#1206
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 05, 2017, 12:37:13 PM
Hearing Damien McErlaine picked/met his panel on Tuesday night. Couple of Coleraine men on the panel, however not as many as I'd have liked. Obviously still early yet.
#1207
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 03, 2017, 02:16:54 PM
Quote from: drillsergeant on October 03, 2017, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.

No Greenlough players toby47?

Ah, genuine mistake. Loughlin in for Conway and Lynn in the unlucky pile. People might say more deserve a say but we have to remember they beat Glenullin (just promoted) and Banagher (just relegated)
#1208
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 03, 2017, 08:36:32 AM
1)   McMullan – Slaughtneil
2)   McKaigue – Slaughtneil
3)   Rogers – Slaughtneil
4)   McNeil – Slaughtneil
5)   Feeny – Slaughtneil
6)   Mckaigue – Slaughtneil
7)   Brooks – Newbridge
8)   Bateson – Newbridge
9)   Bradley – Glen
10)   McGrath Slaughtneil
11)   Bradley – Slaughtneil
12)   McGuigan – Slaughtneil
13)   Sammy – Slaughtneil
14)   Herron – Screen
15)   Conway - Quigan


Unlucky to miss out - Sweeny (Newbridge) Sweeny (F'vale) McFaul (Glen) McBride (Screen) Burke (Newbridge)

Also never seen any junior championship matches this year so can't include anyone.
#1209
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 28, 2017, 05:06:08 PM
Quote from: Walter Cronc on September 28, 2017, 04:54:43 PM
Quote from: toby47 on September 28, 2017, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: Moortown Spuds on September 28, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 11:46:42 AM
Quote from: Club boi on September 28, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on September 28, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 28, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.


Trillick??
But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

I was going to list the teams "I" believe/have heard are paying their management but it would take all day. Much easier to list who isnt

Fire Away ............

I know of one club who are paying their own club man. Its to be expected that outside managers are getting compensated.

In this county??


Bellaghy paid Damien Cassidy once upon a time

Nothing new there. Do they not currently pay Joe Cassidy?


Could well do. Have heard of a couple of managers more recently taking money off their own clubs. Its getting more common
#1210
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 28, 2017, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 11:55:55 AM
Quote from: Moortown Spuds on September 28, 2017, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 11:46:42 AM
Quote from: Club boi on September 28, 2017, 11:40:36 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 10:55:26 AM
Quote from: Under Lights on September 28, 2017, 10:48:44 AM
Quote from: vallankumous on September 28, 2017, 10:40:45 AM
Quote from: tothetop03 on September 28, 2017, 10:36:39 AM
. Every club in the top 7 in Tyrone have all underachieved!!!!!

Couldn't agree more.


Trillick??
But not all paying a man top dollar.
That's the real point.

7/8 teams paying dollar surely....

I was going to list the teams "I" believe/have heard are paying their management but it would take all day. Much easier to list who isnt

Fire Away ............

I know of one club who are paying their own club man. Its to be expected that outside managers are getting compensated.

In this county??


Bellaghy paid Damien Cassidy once upon a time
#1211
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
September 27, 2017, 02:08:45 PM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on September 27, 2017, 01:40:38 PM
Two things
Toby, it's none of your business whether we put in an u21 or not but I don't agree with it

Wild weasel . I've been reliably informed that the fat Douretrasna referee had a long conversation with Harry Tohill after that game

Lol, ratty. Joke club
#1212
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
September 27, 2017, 11:14:47 AM
I see Bellaghy haven't entered a team into the Derry u21 championship as they said it would hinder their chances in the minor championship.
#1213
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
September 26, 2017, 04:26:16 PM
Quote from: Red Hand Man on September 26, 2017, 04:11:13 PM
I really hope that's true, and more importantly, that the kid is ok.

Agree - absolute thug. A vile act on a defenceless young lad standing with his hands by his side. Any reports on how the fella is doing?
#1214
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
September 25, 2017, 02:14:09 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on September 25, 2017, 01:44:57 PM
Quote from: toby47 on September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.

Maybe something they've worked at continuously since the Corofin game?

I would imagine so. They are twice the team now compared to the one vs Corofin.
#1215
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
September 25, 2017, 01:06:04 PM
Slaughtneil really impressive, better than the past few years.

I've seen a lot of football in Tyrone over the past 2 weekends and have also saw Cargin 2/3 times this year Slaughtneil are heads and shoulders above any of them. The runners they have (McKeagues, Roger, Feeny, Tad, Meehaul McGrath) coming from deep and the amount of support runners is unreal.

As someone mentioned already I also think they won very close to 100% of their own kickouts which is the base for their composed possession type brand of football.

Shé McGuigan/O'Doherty will not kill you on the scoreboard but are two great ball winners and will feed Sammy/Shane all day helping them rack up scores. On top of this they have a county standard defence. Karl McKeague is a great man marker, Chrissy leads everything, Feeny is tenacious and full of running, Rogers quite similar only a bigger build and Paul McNeil goes massively under rated, class act. Throw in The leadership/experience of Paul Bradley, Patsy Bradley and McEldowney and you have one hell of a team.

An absolute sure thing to dominate Derry football for the next 6-8 years. And if they continue to dive them selves on and don't loose hunger I honestly think they can go one step further than last year and will an AI club championship.

On a side note - Mullan was very poor. Didn't effect the result at all but some really questionable decisions. None more so than the foul on Anton Kelly in the first half that was a stone wall penalty.