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#1186
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's
#1187
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 15, 2017, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: thepundit on November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
#1188
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 10, 2017, 11:55:43 AM
Looks like the legend Enda Muldoon has played his last game of football. Originally showed up to Ballinderry's start of season meeting a couple of Sunday's ago raring for another year of football at 40 years of age. But has apparently changed his mind and will not combine playing with managing unlike Paddy Bradley last year.

Going to miss Enda as he was an absolute joy to watch. Ballindery will miss him even more so as he was still a massive player for them. I wonder will deets (wasn't at the Ballinderry meeting) and a few other older fella's call it a day aswell as he was recently linked with a position in the Sligo backroom team, heard very good reports on his training style from Coalisland fellas.
#1189
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 10, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: Derry Optimist on November 09, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
To answer Real Talk's query as to the identity of new Banagher joint manager - known as Honda - according to Michael McMullan of Derry Now he is Declan Mullan from Banagher itself.The man who links up with the legendary Enda Muldoon specialises in Strength and Conditioning and coached Glenullin last year under their manager Liam Bradley.

Anthony Begley also in with Banagher. Strange having 2 men that specialise in Strength and Conditioning.
#1190
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 09, 2017, 11:08:35 AM
Quote from: oakleaflad on November 09, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
See Enda Muldoon and Honda are taking Banagher this year.
Michael O'Kane is taking Swatragh too having left Claudy.

Like Paddy Bradley last year, Enda is probably taking the club with the best chance of winning this coming year.

Must be very similar to Paddy Bradley last year because Enda Muldoon is currently training with Ballinderry for the incoming season.
#1191
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
November 08, 2017, 11:26:41 AM
Quote from: OakleafCounty on November 08, 2017, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: North Man on November 07, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
See Paddy Campbell appointed as u-17 manager.
Hope he will not subject young players the puke football he has subjected the 3 club teams to managed.
F Muldoon and R Rocks were v good forwards, hopefully they will have a big say.

When he managed Slaughtmanus it was soul destroying for the players. It was at least 13 men behind the ball and no kick passing allowed. I remember him subbing a player who was having a good game for kick passing (and that's no lie). A disgraceful decision by the County Board to put this type of coach in charge of our best underage talent.

Ridiculous. Should have been kicked out of the club after that decision
#1192
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 27, 2017, 12:09:04 PM
Quote from: tothetop03 on October 27, 2017, 11:29:28 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager

Must be very recent i know a another Tyrone man they contacted on Tuesday...

He was announced at a committee meeting on Tuesday night.
#1193
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 27, 2017, 08:04:21 AM
Kevin Coary installed as Loup manager
#1194
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 26, 2017, 02:20:32 PM
Quote from: wide as a gate! on October 26, 2017, 02:16:37 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on October 26, 2017, 02:10:27 PM
Quote from: oakleaflad on October 26, 2017, 09:18:28 AM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 25, 2017, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: braveheart on October 25, 2017, 01:02:45 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
Downey loves the easy pounds. But at Quigan he'll deserve every penny.

quigan could be doing with darren conway staying on for another year, still a quality player. young ferris rossas centre back has transferred to them which will be a massive boost to quigan but a huge loss to magherafelt
The young lad that was on the Derry panel a couple times? Reason for transferring?
Not sure of reason for leaving  but his father is from Ballymaguigan
He will be a real boost for the Quigan team, a really good player. if my memory serves me right he played the most of his underage at the Cuigan before transferring to Mfelt around u16/minor age. a loss to the rossas for sure.

According to Rossa men won't be a massive loss. Walked off county panel 3/4 years back and ended up playing for Magherafelt 3rds for half a season. Think there was a lack of interest and is now living in the lough shore
#1195
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 26, 2017, 11:00:34 AM
Quote from: Uncle Phil on October 26, 2017, 10:32:21 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.

Explain.....

They had differences in their opinion on whether to bring Ronan Murphy back onto the panel when he walked away.
#1196
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 25, 2017, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: seanyb1 on October 24, 2017, 10:15:26 AM
May be a bit early for this but anyone know of any club managerial changes for next year?

Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Kilrea, Lavey, Greenlough all sticking with their managers
Screen - 1 off (if not both) Donnelly/Dillon you'd imagine will leave after they had a couple of fall outs this year.
Swatragh, Magherafelt and Loup management teams have all left since last year but heard no news on anyone coming in.
Gary Coleman has left Ballymaguigan with Paddy Downey coming in.
#1197
Tyrone / Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
October 23, 2017, 08:40:53 AM
Quote from: redhandofgod on October 23, 2017, 08:26:46 AM
Cant see Harte with Clonoe, given his reason for not staying on with Pomeroy was that he wouldn't manage a team in the same division as Errigal.

Heard he's 100% staying with Ballinderry
#1198
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 17, 2017, 02:52:38 PM
Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: bigball on October 17, 2017, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 01:22:28 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.

Let me rephrase then, did Glen need many u15s when they won the minors 3 years ago? I agree that the competition should get more of a chance.

The dynamics of minor and U21 are different. Minor teams are made up with 15-18 years olds and generally the wider panel are weaker players. Many of the weaker players drop off due to natural wastage. Others become not available at U21 due different  factors (i.e injuries, study in England, Conor Glass AFL, Mark Doole illness etc)
When it comes to U21's, I would suggest that most if not all clubs would depend on minors in order to enter a team. In Glen's last 3 Ulster winning Under 21 squads, each had several minors involved. This year was no different.

Yeah the usual drop off is easily understood but not to a point where a club withdraws from the comp. I find it hard to believe (doubt i would be the only one) that Glen couldn't field 15-20 players from the 2014 minor winners and 2015 finalists in addition to the 2016 minors even with 3/4 lost to the factors you mention.

That's the way football goes fellas. If we had 10 footballers staying on every year to play seniors or reserves our senior teams would be training with panels of 100. 3-4 coming through each year is what every club is aiming for, but its not what every club gets. Even more so now the way club football is going with S&C sessions, Pitch sessions etc boys cant be bothered coming down the road from uni 3/4 nights a week to play reserve football so massive dropout rates and clubs then struggle to get them out in cold October nights to gather an u21 team.
#1199
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 17, 2017, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: Link on October 17, 2017, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: Rawhide on October 17, 2017, 11:07:36 AM
Is it true Glen pulled out of the U21 championship due to numbers? This is the same team that won the minor title three years ago.

I was told it was due to it being the day before their minor B final.

2 things here, surely glen have enough players u21 (but over 18) and that they could easily compete with most teams in a minor A.

What's the point in entering a competition for the sake of it. If they have Minors that start on their u21 team they should not be made play u21's a day before the minor final. The club u21 tournament gets run into the ground and to be honest is a bit of a joke competition, deserves far more respect from organisers.
#1200
Derry / Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
October 11, 2017, 09:25:23 AM
Only one I was at was the Dungiven thirds vs Slaughtneil thirds last week in Draperstown, boxing on the pitch and in the stands. We all saw the video's of Kilrea vs Ballinderry and I never saw the Ogra/Trasna one. Dungiven/Swatragh supposedly had a right wee rumble last week in the u21's with a supporter or two jumping the wire.

Cannot condone any of these incidents however any club would feel hard done by now with a large punishment when so many previous melee's have been ignored. example, a brawl between Glenullin vs Foreglen a couple of years ago in a playoff in Owenbeg was all over the internet and I don't remember any suspensions or punishment handed out.