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Well if you care to give a cursory glance at any index for either of these categories yuo will find that the 26 comes out ahead of the UK most times in most categories. And these are measured on a UK wide basis, you can be sure that the scores for NI as a  stand alone entity is not within a beagle's gowl [sp] of the figures for the UK as a whole. As far's I can see this is a no-brainer.


The quip about your profession was childish, my apologies.

Anyone postulating that the standards of living or the quality of life isn't higher south of the border needs their head examined, theres no comparison between the respsctive economies and thats with England shovelling money into NI to prop up a basic standard of living. 

That is a load of nonsense. Unless I am in the minority - and I don't think so here - there is nothing wrong with the quality of life in NI. Anyone I know who works in a comparable profession in the south of ireland certainly has no higher a quality of life and I would argue less so.

That is not that I am saying there is anything wrong with the quality of life in the "free state" but your statement is nonsense.

You seem to be confusing standards of living and quality of life there mate. I know I spend a few weekends every summer down south [as do 100's of thousands of other people], to get away from the rampant sectarianism in all it's bilious forms in NI. Glad it doesn't affect you in your 'profession'   

[Ireland is a better country to live in than the UK when it's all said and done.]

Vote for UI without hesitation. Ireland is a better country to live in than the UK when it's all said and done.

I am amazed that people can't see that.

Outside of London and the south east, much of the UK is a complete kip. It remains a very class based society where everyone knows their place and there are many glass ceilings. Unionists desperately subscribe to this class based society as it elevates them above their Catholic neighbours (certainly in their minds).

I find some of our friends from across the water have a remarkable innate sense of entitlement. They may be brand new in a job, but they feel they should be promoted immediately and should have the best pay. Before they have lifted a finger. Hidden in that thinking is that they look down on everyone they work with, because they come from a higher class. Not all of them are like that, but far more of them are than any other nationality I have dealt with. For example Americans view their prospects based on hard work as far as I can see. Almost all of them have a complete absence of that sense of entitlement.

Most of the EU is far less class oriented than the UK and this is probably part of the problem for the Tories.

Is it?!! The Health System is completely fucked and expensive! The public sector is massively over subscribed. We would have to pay a "Universal Social Charge" whatever the f**k that is. Throw that in along with the Water Tax, the insurance levy, the price of accomodation buying or renting. The Banking system is inherently flawed in the mortgage market as there isn't enough competition.

Everything's relatively expensive compared to UK ... rent, gas, mobile phones (Way more expensive than UK), Sky, Internet, general food, clothes, alcohol.

In general it's going to cost me more to join a United Ireland. Yes of course I'd love to be free from British Tyranny and for ideological reasons I'd love to be part of a United Ireland but at present it certainly does not appeal to me!!

Anyone postulating that the standards of living or the quality of life isn't higher south of the border needs their head examined, theres no comparison between the respsctive economies and thats with England shovelling money into NI to prop up a basic standard of living. 

Re relegating your ideals to an accounts sheet, Groucho Marx said 'I have my principles and if you don't like them, well i can always change them'

I heard Colin Bell on the radio this morning talking about the work the trust does, some of it in close harmony with the Claddagh Association, sounds like a truly wonderful organisation.

Yes it appears there were 5 deaths in the Irish ex pat community in Perth over the last week. Apart from the 2 lads yesterday, [RIP], there was a further construction related accident, a car accident and a sudden illness death also.


Must be an absolute nightmare for the families to get that call. The wee lad from Omagh had only gone out there a month ago.

No mention of that in the rules at all afaik. But it's hard for 2 lads to shoulder one person at the same time. Amusingly this happened to me one time and the 2 lads bounced of me like a rubber ball leaving me relatively unscathed, forces of equal and opposite mass and all that lol

Contact with another player is only permitted shoulder to shoulder. All other physical contact resulting in a foul. Maybe some whizzkid can cut and paste the relevant rule. Again.

Any contact with another player other than shoulder to shoulder is deemed an illegal tackle and should result in a foul. I think.

In the good old days a 2 man tackle would have automatically resulted in a foul. This seemed to change around 2003 when Tyrone perfected swarm tackling.

Howabout implementing a rule, as in 7's football, of no backwards handpassing in your own half. Relatively easy to referee in comparison to counting number of passes. It would also encourage teams to pressure the ball carrier coming out of defence high up the field.

Eliminating the practice of more than one player tackling at a time should also be enforced. At the minute it appears to be allowable for a number of players to put their hands on the player with the ball, which is an illegal tackle according to the existing rules. It inevitably appears to result in an overcarrying penalty for the player in possession, in contrast to when a player is being tackled 1 on 1 when any contact whatsoever is deemed a foul in favour of the attacking player. A more robust enforcement of mutilpe tacklers and a less strict interpretation of the 1 on 1 tackle might result in less massed defenders and more scope for flair players to do their thing.

The 20 metre kickout has merit too.

PS Haven't read all of the thread, so if someone else has posted similar my apologies.

[fainted]

Never had a feeling of sickness over any footballer before except for Pogba the past 3 years.  Still can't get over whiskeynose not getting over his stubbornness and giving Pogba want he wanted, which in reality was very little.  It was clear then that he was on his way to being a world beater and in essence United just let a player go who in all likelihood will be the best player in the world in 2 or 3 years.  I saw only 5 minutes last night in the second half but there was a passage where he hit a pass over the defence for Martial to run onto, it was sublime.  10 seconds later he fainted at the edge of the box and hit a shot that nestled on the top of the net, but the dip and power he had on the ball was unreal.

That made me laugh. What a player!!

NAG
I think this is the real start of the Energy war. The west has kept this place in turmoil for the last 40 yrs to help control the supply of oil and the people in this region have woken up to what is going on. Its the same in Africa, Nigeria is a real hot bed at the minute as well and its only a matter of time.

So do you think this has nothing to do with radical Islam?  They just want the oil?

Well for the West it sure as fook is!!

I must say that some of the comment on these issues is the must ill-informed prejudicial nonsense I ever read.

Lets start with President Hollande who yesterday laughably declared his intention to go to war with ISIS.

U were already at war with these people when u started started dropping bombs on them and arming their enemies u  imbecile. The transparency of his feeble attempt to cover up his inaction since the Hebdo affair, by dropping bombs on Raqqa, is pathetic.  And no word of how many civilians got killed in those attacks. Oh sorry that's "collateral damage". Not terrorism.

And anyway it was done from quite a distance away. So the guy pushing the button to drop the bomb isn't a murderer or a savage. In fact he's a hero. And so is the guy who ordered him to do it. And anyway killing god knows-how-many non-combatants by bombing doesn't really count. Unless they're white and live in a western city. And bombing will definitely solve the problem. Even though that was what started the problem.

Cameron comes on talking about vicious ruthless evil yadda yadda yadda. How many deaths are you responsible for, not to mention previous British governments who were critical in starting this whole mess. Just because someone is sitting in Chesterfield pushing the button to bomb somewhere in Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria/Anywhere but Saudi Arabia doesn't make it any less of a murder. Sickening hypocrites. Same for the Obama and the Americans substituting Fort Meade. The hyprocisy of these f****** is breathtaking. You have no high moral ground here as you have more blood on your hands than any ISIS leader, and wearing a sharp suit and tie doesn't change that.

The only 2 people I have heard even mention the fact that ISIS is a Saudi sponsored faction [as was Al Quaeda] is Nigel Farage and Jeremy Corbyn, admittedly an unlikley pair of bedfellows, but at least they recognise the source of the problem and are asking what is going to be done to address that. The rest of them are crying about savages and cruelty and innocent civilians and inhumane and bloodthirsty whilst at the same time and without the slighest blush of shame, sending shiploads of weaponry to Saudi and Israel every month.

How does anyone believe a single word these clowns utter? I suppose when you see and hear the public reaction online and other media it becomes clear how such hypocritical lying assholes get voted in.

And the clowns on FB, OMG these people sicken my hole. Spoutin nonsense about stopping immigration. The problem isn't Syrians coming here and starting killing people. It's people from Birminghan and Blackburn and Cardiff and Derry and countless other places going out to the middle east to kill all around them. Not to mention the 1500-2000 French citizens who travelled to Syria to particiapte in the war there. So if you are talking about immigration as a cover for people travelling to kill citizens of a country its a one way street so far. Maybe if Syria had stopped English and French people going to Jihad in their country they mightn't have had such a big problem.

The number of nationalist/republicans I have seen liking and sharing posts from organisations like Britain First [neo nazi group] is amazing. And people on here expressing the exact same far right views. Can they not remember or do they not care that this was the sort of shite they were coming out with about you not that long ago?

[it wasnt that long ago that there were more irish born living around the city than left in ireland]

9/11?
Forget for a moment that ireland and new york are closely linked, it wasnt that long ago that there were more irish born living around the city than left in ireland. Forget for a moment that we lost several of our own citizens in the attack and forget that the most famous victim was father mychal judge just one of many many irish americans to die.
9/11 was such a huge event with casualties from around 70 different countries (again not just white folk) i think its pretty to save to say that everywhere around the globe sat up and took notice.
A fairer comparison would be one of the big college campus shootings which usually does involve a lot of white affluent kids and guess what within a day noone over here could care less

WTF?  When was this? What are u smoking??

This is nothing to do with immigration.

Of course it does. Stop deluding yourself. This is the result of immigration from years ago.
The seeds of the next phase of immigration issues are being sewn right now. And the liberal idiots of Europe are waving flags welcoming them to their countries. Fools.

I wouldn't be surprised if one of the irish navy boats ferried one of the paris attackers over. There's always the chance they did.

What a great idea that was.

Maybe I've got this completely wrong, but are you not an immigrant?

No.
Just stop diesel laundering, cigarette smuggling, cattle rustling for s start.
Not much of that going on outside a small number of areas

I  see you neglected to mention sheep stealing.

[Very hard to get proof]

I suspect they wanted the cuts blocked long enough to get them through the 26 Co General Election on their pie in the Sky anti everything platform.
I presume SF will be delighted with the proposed cross border police unit to tackle all the criminal activity in the SF controlled areas??

There are no SF "controlled" areas. Before you gloat criminality is as big a problem in Dublin and other urban centres in the South.

Criminality in Dublin and the Munster cities isn't intrinsically linked to supporters of political organisations. The same can't be said of fuel laundering, cigarette smuggling, cattle rustling, credit union robbery, not making tax returns , intimidation etc etc.

Nor is there any proof that those linked to criminality in the north are linked to SF. This is a spurious allegation made by some with no proof.

Very hard to get proof. They hardly leave a calling card behind or issue a statement saying who they are.
But the bushes and drumlins and locals know and it's time for SF to grow up and do their bit to stop them.

Ah well that's all right then, we'll just try and sentence large groups of people without it. Gossip and innuendo will suffice. Or even better don't bother with a trial, reintroduce internment, it worked well the last time.