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#106
Ye're being hard on the teams. It was a nasty game, there was a small bit of stopping runs etc. No belts thrown, no dangerous tackles, maybe one but it was ok for January!
Sending off was wrong. I was possibly nearest spectator. Conway def checked Cavanagh twice, first time near linesman should have flagged it and the second wouldn't have happened. The second was frustrating but harmless. Yellow card max.
Karma intervened then as Cavanagh broke a rib or two almost immediately after in an innocent tangle.
Both teams will be bog players before year is out. Lots of absentees, but Tyrone's newcomers impressed most.
#107
Any player who would go golfing the morning of an Ulster Championship game or come into a dressing room and tell a couple of new young lads to get out of his seat can be done without and won't add much to any other team.
#108
McMahon's introduction was as important as the sending off. Added greater physicality to Tyrone. Great to see Paddy Bradley recover so well; he was on fire early on but the supply dried up and he couldnt get onto the ball in the second half.
Tyrone won't be too far off the pace. Nor Derry.
Be a bit worried for Derry's mentality; Tyrone look a tighter, more united outfit. Derry lost their way, leaders were lacking and just though the body language of players being subbed was indicative of individualism. 'Taking me off?'
#109
GAA Discussion / Re: Crokes call for segregation!!!
January 28, 2012, 12:16:59 PM
A poor week for the GAA thanks to the scandalous whinging and moaning from Kerry Clubs. They've had it too easy for too long thanks to a provincial system that has protested them and given them an easy ride to All Ireland Finals.
Shame on them for the headlines they caused all week and are still causing in today's papers. A black day for the GAA.

Crokes though take the biscuit. How come they didn't put forward a motion on this to Convention since their concerns about safety arose a few years ago? How come they release statements on the issue to the media instead of raising the issue directly with Croke Park? Now backtracking at a rate of knots.

Sickening carry on. A slur against great GAA people in other clubs and counties. On a par with our Taoiseach's comments in Davos this week.

Always followed Kerry football. Used to always.
#110
GAA Discussion / Re: Crokes call for segregation!!!
January 26, 2012, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: ziggysego on January 26, 2012, 11:25:17 AM
Quote from: AZOffaly on January 26, 2012, 11:08:49 AM
I don't know where it is endemic. All I said was it is not endemic in Kerry. I'm explaining why Dromid were 'caught on the hop' if they experienced what they said they experienced. I am not having a dig at Tyrone or anywhere else. I would say that I experienced more off the ball stuff in Offaly, and in my opinion there is more bad blood at games in other counties that I have attended, (none in Ulster, relax) than I've seen in Kerry.

Caught on the hop? Dromid started the whole disgraceful scenes off. Derrytresk never should have let it get out of hand, but don't be making out that Dromid were innocent lambs in the headlights.

Ah now! Thats not true. Clearly the Derrytresk mentor 'interfered' with the Dromid player who retaliated.

Look the bottom line on this is that Kerry are trying to be too cute, using the media to colour any investigations and dare i say it attempting to have their opponents thrown out and t=be reinstated themselves!! That isn't on!
Followed up by Crokes deliberate attempt to influence match officials in advance of their game....
No sorry but these actions diminish Kerry football in the eyes of many neutrals.....
#111
GAA Discussion / Re: Crokes call for segregation!!!
January 26, 2012, 11:01:06 AM
The whole point of this topic is to highlight the hypocrisy of the media statements emanating from Kerry this week.
There was a very bad breakdown in discipline last week but the kerry angle is of complete shock, that it was unheard of down there way. The statements were sanctimonious and self serving.
Tyrone and Cross do not deserve to be subjected to these cynical attacks on their character or on their units.
Where do you stop with this megaphone stuff?
Kerry folk should recall the Kennelly incident at the start of an All Ireland Final and their poor disciplinary record in recent times before going to the pulpit and preaching.
They would do themselves far more credit by leaving the matter to the proper authorities to deal with instead of issuing press releases.
If they have serious concerns let them bring forward motions to amend the GAA disciplinary code (which maybe wouldn't be such a bad idea).
Bad enough the Club doing it but the County Chairman rowing in too and volunteering to assist an investigation!
#112
GAA Discussion / Re: Crokes call for segregation!!!
January 26, 2012, 10:38:37 AM
I too have been at Kerry Club games down the years - always an enjoyable experience and by and large games always played in the right spirit.
This week though reflects very poorly on the Kingdom, this whinging to the media is distasteful in the extreme and I must say, as a Leinster man, the attempts to portray Ulster football as the demons of the GAA smacks of petty jealousy.
At inter county level Tyrone have given Kerry a horrid time in recent years while Cross have consistently been head and shoulders about the Kerry Champions.

It has all the sound of begrudgery at the cheek of those northerners to refuse to roll over at the sight of Kerry jerseys. Those days are over.
#113
GAA Discussion / Crokes call for segregation!!!
January 26, 2012, 09:08:41 AM
What is going on with our Kerry colleagues? Dr Crokes have requested that supporters be segregated for their All Ireland semi final clash with Crossmaglen Rangers in Portlaoise on Sunday week.
I think this is an outrageous request that goes against the whole ethos of GAA.
A very very small number of our games result in trouble between supporters and the GAA Supporters of all counties and clubs are rightly lauded for their ability to mix freely at games without incident.

This is pure gamesmanship designed to put pressure on their opponents.

The over the top reaction to events at last week's game also reflect poorly on Kerry GAA people. Having looked at the video I can say with confidence that the incident looked much worse than it actually was. I agree fully that the Derrytresk subs and supporters who got over the barrier acted shamefully and deserve the maximum punishment possible under rule and if Gardai have grounds to act they should do so.
But most of what happened was either shoving/pushing or trying to pull lads away.

Dromid haven't helped their cause with their hysterical media comments.

One would think this type of thing never happened in Kerry when the opposite is true. I can recall an incident a few years ago between two neighbouring South Kerry Clubs who are located only a stones throw from Dromid that ended up in a court of law over a vicious assault.

Kerry are rightly considered football purists but they have had their fair share of club incidents down the years and always had a few hatchet men to shore up their back line. If my memory serves me right their great team of the seventies were involved in a running battle v Dublin in New York (?).
#114
You can have all the opinions in the world but the rules are explicit on this issue. He cannot play for another county while playing CLub football for his home club. If he completes an inter county transfer to a county he is now resident in he can play for his new club and his new county or his home county. There are no other options.
Apart from submitting a motion to the next Cavan Convention seeking the rule to be changed, have it passed and onto the Clár at the 2013 Congress!

In the meantime he can drop into his local filling station in Straffan (only shop there) and buy a dummy to suck for the year.
#115
No way. I don't for one minute believe that Seanie Johnston is living in Straffan and commuting each morning to teach in Cavan and is willing to continue playing with Cavan Gaels.. The rule is clear. He hasnt a hope.
let him transfer to a Kildare club and then he can line out for the Lilywhites.
Even if McGeeney wants him there is no way Kildare Co Board or Clubs will tolerate a non native coming in and taking a jersey off a Kildare man if he is not playing in the County.
Another inter county prima donna?
#116
GAA Discussion / Re: Leinster club final
December 18, 2011, 08:03:09 PM
The Goal looked a clear square ball to me; given he had blown an earlier square ball which was less obvious I think the ref had a poor game. Add to that the ridiculous yellow cards he dished out (as usual) and the missing of the the third man in at the melee.....the free at the end was prob correct but marginal and dont think it should have been given. Inconsistency is the bane of football; he blew one handpass today which was no different than 90% of the others... why?
#117
The Eire Og Club in Carlow have been running a Leinster version for about ten years now. They are at the Final stage now with Celbridge Kildare playing host Club in the Final on Friday week. They have tried to have the tournament officially recognised by the provincial Coucil but they don't want it going ahead and restrict it to just 8 counties! So much for the grass roots..
Wouldnt it be nice if the four provinces ran it culminating in an All Ireland Final?
#118
GAA Discussion / Re: John Morrison for Cavan
September 14, 2011, 11:47:09 PM
He does indeed have a degree in psychology and also one in geology. As far as I know he has others too.. A man of great life experiences - ran a youth club in Armagh during the troubles, counselled in schools and prisons.......
Very sharp, and an encyclopediac knowledge of coaching but better still, very practrical and not one who knows the theory but wouldnt have a clue how to conduct a session.

His weakness is possibly that he knows he is good and won't tolerate bureaucracy.
Can be over powering too and maybe too inclined to challenge players who often are not as open as they think they are... he thinks deeply and different!

Inclined to 'take over'; can sometimes go beyond his brief.

They're my opinions from close observation.
Decent guy, much misunderstood and maligned by detractors.
#119
GAA Discussion / Re: John Morrison for Cavan
September 13, 2011, 11:36:33 PM
Mickey was always a gentleman to his finger tips while Morrison was never afraid to speak his mind. On a one to one basis Morrison did excellent work on improving a players game. Never given credit he deserved - even among his coaching peers who were never shy about using his ideas.
A great man to have on your side and a man to challenge the status quo. Always a players man too without pampering them.
#120
GAA Discussion / Re: John Morrison for Cavan
September 11, 2011, 08:20:21 AM
Far comment Lar Naparka.
It's also true to say that Brady was always difficult; not only M&M had problems with him - every Mayo manager found Brady to be a handful to say the least. Piry because he prob never realised his full potential.