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#106
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 30, 2023, 09:24:54 PM
Original Likud party platform

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

"between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty. "
#107
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 27, 2023, 05:01:40 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 27, 2023, 02:39:25 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on October 26, 2023, 08:50:59 PMA senior Hamas delegation has travelled to Moscow to meet Russian foreign ministry officials in the organisation's first high-profile international visit since it launched a raid in southern Israel on 7 October, killing an estimated 1,400 people and taking another 220 hostage.
They didn't kill 1400 people. The Israeli army blew up houses in kibbutz Be'eri where Hamas were holding hostages because they didn't want them to go to Gaza. Israel is seriously fucked up that it would murder its own people rather than have them taken alive. We don't know about the festival either.
There's being biased towards the Palestinians

and then there's being batshit crazy
#109
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 25, 2023, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on October 25, 2023, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 25, 2023, 09:12:37 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 25, 2023, 04:51:09 PM
Quote from: dec on October 25, 2023, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 25, 2023, 01:13:57 PMWe're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?
The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine



The UN Partition Plan took half of Palestine to give to the Zionists.

there was a civil war in Ireland over letting the Brits keep 6 counties. Imagine the uproar if the UN handed over 16.
If they'd tried to accommodate an Israeli state after WW1 when the UK & France were redrawing country boundaries all over the Middle East it might have had a better chance, but the political will wasn't there, it took the Holocaust to create the political will.

I can't help thinking  the new Jewish state  of israel was  left alone and  given a free reign because of the halocaust . 

In a similar way,  the unionist government  was given free reign to do what  it liked to Catholics after partition

From the perspective of 2023 it looks like the Arabs turned down a very good deal, the Arab state proposed is much larger than anything they are likely to get now.

But from the perspective of 1947 the Arabs made up about 2/3 of the population and got about 1/3 of the land.
#110
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 25, 2023, 02:48:33 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 25, 2023, 01:58:32 PMThe new series of Frasier.

Shite ?
Rodney the Plonker is in it as Frasier's new mate.
#111
Quote from: LeoMc on October 25, 2023, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Brendan on October 25, 2023, 06:28:10 AM
Quote from: onefineday on October 25, 2023, 01:00:47 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 24, 2023, 11:08:45 PMSlaughtneil won Derry hurling final on 17 September, that put them into Ulster final on 3 December  ??? It's like two different seasons
Split split season?

That's ridiculous, all the talk of player welfare, except if you're successful. What's the hold up there btw? Down played last weekend, Antrim the week before. They could nearly play a home and away round robin amongst the three of them and still be finished before November is out.
Derry county board in a big rush to get the hurling out of the way
It would be unfair on dual players to be in laying championship game's every week in 2 codes when opponents could be getting a weeks rest between games.
But building a calendar around dual players is unfair on the vast majority of players who don't play both games.
#112
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 25, 2023, 01:28:43 PM
Quote from: whitey on October 25, 2023, 01:13:57 PMWe're the Palestinians ever offered their own state by the Israelis?
The 1947 UN Partition plan for Palestine proposed an Arab State and a Jewish state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine


#113
Quote from: bennydorano on October 24, 2023, 05:08:14 PMDo u get charged for cash withdrawals ftom atms in the states? Probably the way they'll try to wean us off cash here eventually. They did try to introduce it hear (UK as opposed to NI) years ago but there was a huge back lash & it died a death.
Yes, usually the only ATMs that you can get money out of without an extra charge are those belonging to you own bank.

Just did my largest ever cash transaction, the guy doing a bunch drywall, painting and plumbing work for us wanted to be paid in cash.
#114
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 18, 2023, 12:18:12 PM
I thought it's was interesting that Israel are blaming Islamic jihad rather than Hamas.

On a separate issue I don't think the Arabs should have cancelled the meetings with Biden even in the circumstances.
#115
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 17, 2023, 11:24:03 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 17, 2023, 10:45:42 PMBut no Hamas rocket has even killed anywhere near 500 people, so I await some further information.

Has a Hamas rocket ever hit a target with hundreds of people crowded into a small area?
I think the death toll has more to do with the target than the size of the rocket.
#116
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 17, 2023, 09:25:59 PM
Here is the Jerusalem Post report on the hospital bomb

https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-768879

The IDF confirmed last Tuesday night that Islamic Jihad's failed rocket had destroyed a Gaza hospital, leading to a still unclear number of deaths.

The IDF said that it had multiple intelligence sources that had confirmed that Islamic Jihad, and not Israel, were responsible, despite accusations by Hamas and some other countries.
Only a couple of hours before, the door seemed to be left open by the IDF spokesman's office, which said it needed to study the issue. But already some time into the controversy videos and hints emerged matching a failed rocket launch to the timing of the hospital being hit.

It was also possible that the rocket hit a nearby ammunition depot which then destroyed the hospital.
#117
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 16, 2023, 04:28:51 PM
Prime Ministers questions on sky. Sammy Wilson decides that the most important thing to talk about is the a pro Palestine demonstration at Coláiste Feirste in Belfast 
#118
General discussion / Re: Hamas launch attack on Israel
October 13, 2023, 06:37:43 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/belfast-school-to-be-contacted-by-department-of-education-over-pro-palestine-rally/a401939145.html

The Department of Education has said it will be contacting a Belfast school for "further information" after videos and photographs were shared online of pupils holding a rally in support of Palestinians in Gaza.

Colaiste Feirste, which is the only Irish language speaking secondary school based in Belfast took to the social media website X (formerly Twitter) on Wednesday to share images of pupils holding Palestinian flags with caption 'Tacaionn maid leis an Phalaistin' which roughly translates to 'We Support Palestine'.

The photographs were accompanied by a video of an apparent pupil who gave a speech entirely in Irish where the school reiterated its support for those living in Gaza.

In a statement to this newspaper, a spokesperson for the Department of Education said: "This issue has been drawn to the attention of the Department. We will be contacting the school to obtain further information on the matter."

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The social media posts were later deleted and are no longer available on the school's social media channel but was later replaced with a screenshot from a video of the pupil who gave the speech with a caption translated from Irish stating: "Some students organised a demonstration for the rights and justice of Palestine yesterday, showing the great humanitarian heart they have and their commitment to the people around the world."

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#119
General discussion / Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
October 13, 2023, 02:15:11 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on October 13, 2023, 02:09:14 PMRead between the lines people.
The conspiracy loons seem to have no ability to read the lines so they resort to reading some imaginary nonsense that is hidden between the lines that they think supports their delusions.
#120
General discussion / Re: WHO Pandemic treaty
October 12, 2023, 10:40:01 PM
Here is a recent episode of BBCs More or Less which debunks John Campbells "excess deaths" figures

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0gj8frd