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#106
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
 
Quote from: full back on June 26, 2007, 03:53:17 PM
It's not just teams in Armagh that have problems stopping Cross
To use them as an example is wide of the mark

sit you down

they are going for i dont no exactly 11/12 in a row this is a disgrace armagh football needs a strong competitive senior championship, for the benefit of both the county team and club football across the board

Quote from: maddog on June 26, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Quoteand if you take tyrone as an example theyre senior team is going to be challenging(unfortunatly) for all irelands for the next 3/4 years and they have a healthly senior championship where realistically anyone of 4/5 teams can win it, and they use this system, in armagh whos gonna stop cross

When we had teams like the Harps, Ogs, Sarsfields, Maghery, Mullaghbawn etc all winning senior championships, we couldnt win an argument at county level. Cross are an exceptional team, thats all there is to it. I agree with the earlier point about having b matches before senior matches, its the best way of showcasing players to make the step up and probably helps creates more comraderie within a club.

if im not mistaken armagh took the eventual all ireland champions to a replay in 1993, ulster as whole was very strong in the early 90s, and there was no back door system as there is now
#107
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 03:42:20 PM
do u not see how these poorer standard players benefit from training with better players increasing the overal standard, training with poorer players isnt going to lessan your own ability, but give u confidence, so where as you started with 18/20 good players you now have 26/27, and your overal panel has improved. we in armagh need to improve club football as a whole there are teams in our intermediate championship that would struggle in the junior in tyrone and derry, and if you take tyrone as an example theyre senior team is going to be challenging(unfortunatly) for all irelands for the next 3/4 years and they have a healthly senior championship where realistically anyone of 4/5 teams can win it, and they use this system, in armagh whos gonna stop cross
#108
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 03:19:31 PM
increasing competition, increases quality, improves teams, improves players, have you ever coached or trained with 7/8 players compared to 32/33 look at the numbers on the tyrone panel this year 38
#109
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 03:08:18 PM
in theory both teams train together boosting numbers at training, the one management team take both teams, so those playing well get their chance with the seniors, vice versa if someone is lacking confidence they play with the reserves. do away with this naming 15 players(load of bollicks) that cant play B league if you played for the seniors in the championship last year u ar ineligible for the reserve championship, its a win win situation players get football at a higher standard that they can improve from, the 18 to 21 age group that is neglected can flourish with both teams training together competition for places meaning a higher stanard across the county
#110
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 01:42:41 PM
maybe the more practise the refs get the better they might become ;D
#111
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
June 26, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
yes it is the top 4 from each but imo it would be more beneficial if it was like i said in my first post
#112
All County B league imo the intentions are good, and to improve as a footballer you need to test urself against higher quality opposition, but imo the way forward is to create a reserve league with matches being played on the same day as the senior team, for example if all teams in their respective leagues/ divisions have two games on a sunday ie harps reserve team play their counterparts from crossmaglen at 1pm and the seniors play at 2 30pm, this imo would raise the standard of  football within each club and across the county, lord knows something has to be done.
#113
Armagh / Re: The Harps Thread
June 26, 2007, 12:56:14 PM
uladh, i agree that the intentions are good, and to improve as a footballer you need to test urself against higher quality opposition, but imo the way forward is to create a reserve league with matches being played on the same day as the senior team, for example if all teams in their respective leagues/ divisions have two games on a sunday ie harps reserve team play their counterparts from crossmaglen at 1pm and the seniors play at 2 30pm, this imo would raise the standard of  football within each club and across the county, lord knows something has to be done.
#114
Armagh / Re: The Harps Thread
June 26, 2007, 12:29:43 PM
yes understand that but should these young lads be subjected to in unlikely event of 16 players heading to the bridge and killeavey etc and getting the sh** kicked out of them.
#115
Armagh / Re: The Harps Thread
June 26, 2007, 12:06:35 PM
so if the harps Bs win their next two games they will quailify for the all county league, is this the way forward? ???
will they get a team out week in week out to travel to lurgan and south armagh