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As far as i know If the referee deals with the issue then it cannot be acted upon - for example if the ref puts in his report -
"i saw frankie swing and hit yer man but because he shud not have been on the field i decided not to book frankie" then i dont think the GAA can suspend him - its a crazy rule. Video evidence should be allowed especially in cases where the ref messes up - still dont think frnakie shud get a suspension though

He should not have been patroling the sidelines without a bib on and he should not be on the pitch even with a bib on without the refs permission. End of story. At couty level you will only ever see managers with a bib on the sideline - the rest must stay in the dugout.
Your entitled to your opinion but i think the world has gone mad if a player gets suspended for hitting a guy wit no official clothing enetered the pitch when he should not have and initiated the altercation and swung first. Common sense

And there in lies the problem - absolutley no sense of common sense or justice in them. Totally designed to protect the rulemakers at every turn.
Whoever was in charge of this game, (connaught council was it?), should suspend themselves for allowing so many mentors on the sideline and the guy who came on the pitch should get 6 months for even putting his nose over the line without a bib on him.
The mentor did go to swing first even if it was a pitiful attempt but the point is as far as Frankie was concerned his nest swing could have been a lot better - the mentor, theoretically could have connected with the next punch and put frankie out of the game.
common sense tells me that he should not be suspended - although cos the GAA is what it is it will fudge it and give frankie a month and he will be back for the next game anyway

ok...so a fan comes on and starts swinging at a player, who then retaliates and hits the fan am i right in saying that the player shoud be sent off for retaliation?

How did he know he was a mentor??? That is the point here! if the guy who was hit wants to bring him up for assault then fine - go ahead. What wud you all think a player shud do if a fan came on the pitch confronting him - do you think that if the player hits the fan he should be suspended by the GAA? What if the fan hit the player first and puts him out of the remainder of the game, do we commend the player for not hitting even though this lead to him not protecting himself and getting a broken jaw.
The fact the guy had no bib on is the main point. If the GAA authorities who were in charge on the day allowed the guy on the sideline then im sorry it is there fault. Everyone is quick to blame Frankie without looking at where the problem started - namely bad officiating.

double standards - catch a grip - this fella comes on from the sideline. Is not a player and has no bib on to say whether he is an official (not that this would change things much) and starts something with a player on the field.  Frankie should not get suspended for this, im not condoning him either but certainly not blaming him. Hopefully a bit of common sense will prevail. Yer man had no business on the field.
You cannot compare this with what happenned in the International Rules - chalk and cheese - although there have been other incidents in club games in recent times that hav been as bad if not worse than the international rules

josey - just incase that was a dig at me i did not say that weights slow you down - i simply said that if the wrong type of weights are done then it could lead to over bulking and as a result slow you down. As i said weights need to be done in a controlled manner with the right programmes adherred to.

The first post shoudl explain how it is related to the GAA.
It is very easy to lambast the use of gyms and weights, esp if you do not really know anything about them. From my small knowledge I would say that, as others have said, it is important that the right weights is done. For example I presume it tould be counter productive for a corner forward to bulk up massively and as a result slow down - it would be better for him to be doing toning strenght work that will increase strenght but not neccessarily bulk.
However whatever work in the gym needs to go hand in hand with work with the ball on the pitch. I think this is where todays players are going wrong - spend a few months in the gym but forget how to kick a ball

did you or have you played a lot of ball wobbler cos u speak an awful lot of sense.
Tyrone were at time spectacular winning those two All irelands particuarly the 2005 crown.
Both O'Neill and Mulligan gave an exhibition of winning the ball that day and every time they did there was somebody thundering past them to take the ball off them. Yes they defended in numbers but they also attacked in numbers. It was super stuff IMO.
On the issue as a whole i would say that a good gameplan is probably more important at the highest level as skill difference is not as apparent. At club level however the most skillfull team can still win.

As far as i know there are a few variations of the test - did around 130 in last year of  school once - did level 13 two years ago.  Dont know which was better, all i know is i could not walk for about ten minutes and could not speak for about 20 mins after each of them. Its a killer cos no matter how fit you are it should effect everyone the same.

I dont think there is any hidden agenda by the GPA - well certainly nothing that the ordinary members would be privy to. Do you really think Skull that over 1000 people could keep a secret agenda secret! Come on we are talking about young gaelic players here not the CIA and the cover up when the JFK was shot.
But on the other hand there is no doubt that, like any organisation, the direction they take is driven from the top. I actually think that the majority of GAA intercounty players are pretty apathetic towards the GPA - they take the attitude that of they get them grants then great but if not then they will just continue to play

I think most forwards suffer from poor footwork when it comes to tackling - james mccartan was the best forward tackler i ever seen. Another drill i recall is being made to keep our hands behind my back while a player soloed u at about 3/4 pace - I had to back backwards without leeting him past and without crossing my feet - after players had mastered this then you could use your hands and just shadow a player going near enough flat out - then the last drill was full contact with a player going at top speed but encorporating the feet and the shadowing.
Another gem is to count the steps - there is no point trying to dispossess a somebody as soon as they get it when you know they will have to solo or bounce, count how many steps they take and try to get a hand or hit them as they solo or bounce

When you talking about youngsters the two most important things to do is to get them tackling with the near hand and also not to cross their feet when a player is coming at them.
Tackling with the wrong hand is a killer - as BC has said it allows the forward to grab it and get a free but also the natural thing to do when tackling with the far hand is to put the near hand on the players back - a stone wall free.
The old foot crossing is another killer - remember a coach telling us to move like a boxer so that we never crossed our feet. Even tied string between some of the boys feet - if they crossed them they ended up going head over shite but if they moved just sided to side like a boxer they were ok.

Depends how much you train and play an lark - if you play alot of football with no rest and have no off season then this is more likely the result of your hamstring pulls and strains.

As a seperate idea on its own I would have to agree with MH.
But I think that these sorts of ideas should not even be entertained until the club situation is sorted out. We are obssessed with rewarding winners in the GAA - the best players play for the county - the county teams get focused on more than any other unit.
The best club teams win their respective competitions and as a result should be rewarded with trips away.
We have lost track of what makes the GAA tick - the average club player  plays for 20 years and wins nothing or at the most one or two medals. This is the person shit upon byt he GAA at president.
We should cancel the International rules, put ideas like Mickeys on the back burner until the farcical club situation is sorted out.