I must have been off school the day the covered the part where the Men of 1916 anally raped the teenagers at a music festival
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna141789
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Show posts MenuQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 08:08:56 AMQuote from: Itchy on May 22, 2024, 08:01:00 AMQuote from: johnnycool on May 22, 2024, 07:50:17 AMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 06:30:38 PMI'm sure people are going to go ballistic (no pun intended) when I ask this question, but what exactly did Hamas hope to accomplish by the attacks on October 7th?
Was it a revenge attack for decades of oppression on the Palestinians?
Was it an attempt to start a war?
Was it an attempt to derail the normalization of relations between Israel and other Muslim Countries?
Netanyahu was like Tyson Fury on Saturday night and would likely have been removed from office. Why did they give him this lifeline ?
On a scale of 1-10 how did they think Israel would respond ? (1 being do nothing, 10 being dropping a nuke)
All of the above.
If you're living from one aid drop to the next, being picked off and slaughtered day and daily by the IDF in both the Gaza strip and even still in the West Bank you've nothing to lose.
Did it play into Netanyahu and his ultra right wing partners in government hands? To an extent but it may well suit the Palestinians in the longer term with how Netanyahu has went on a genocidal rampage in the Gaza strip.
Those who have turned a blind eye to the atrocities carried out by the IDF for decades can no longer sit by and watch and now I think we're seeing the start of something better for Palestine as there's no way Netanyahu and the Israelis can be seen to have benefited from this genocide.
The Us can no longer be seen to be neutral in this conversation as it never was.
Couldnt all Whiteys questions be similarly asked of Irish rebellions. We were a small, poorly armed peasantry resisting the biggest empire in the world. Could we not ask why did our crazy ancestors rebel in 1641, 1798, Robert Emmett, 1916, Tan War, Troubles. Sure didnt we know what would come to us?
Which makes it all the more galling to see anyone with an inkling of Irishness in them supporting Israel in any form.
We've all been told for decades who the terrorists were whilst those who called us such we covered in the blood of innocent Irish people.
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 21, 2024, 09:15:30 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 08:45:33 PMThere is, as far as I'm aware, no evidence of this gang rape/mass rape thing. Its also pretty much accepted that Israel shot up a large amount of their own people. If they gave a damn about hostages they would gave negotiated their release, instead they carpet bombed civilian areas. You need to think of Israel as Nazis to understand the evil you are dealing with here.
I have no doubt that Israel wilfully murder and starve Palestinians - it's clear from their actions.
Though hasn't the ICC also accepted that Hamas fighters used sexual violence? I'd imagine they must have seen evidence before stating such.
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 21, 2024, 07:28:26 PMQuote from: theskull1 on May 21, 2024, 07:00:07 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 06:30:38 PMI'm sure people are going to go ballistic (no pun intended) when I ask this question, but what exactly did Hamas hope to accomplish by the attacks on October 7th?
Was it a revenge attack for decades of oppression on the Palestinians?
Was it an attempt to start a war?
Was it an attempt to derail the normalization of relations between Israel and other Muslim Countries?
Netanyahu was like Tyson Fury on Saturday night and would likely have been removed from office. Why did they give him this lifeline ?
On a scale of 1-10 how did they think Israel would respond ? (1 being do nothing, 10 being dropping a nuke)
There are thousands of Palestinians detained by the IDF. I believe the intention was to take hostages so as to negotiate prisoner swaps.
Personally feel like this was a setup and Israel wanted an atrocity to react to so they could flatten Gaza and claim it for themselves.
You think that Israel was somehow behind Oct 7th?
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 21, 2024, 06:00:32 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 05:32:33 PMWhy does he have to take a side? What about the side of justice?Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Biden (or the US for that matter) had no hand act or part in starting either of those wars.
Once they started he had to take a side
Arm a country committing genocide?
By the way it started long before last October.. but you know that.
Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:29:09 PMHow do you square the fact that since old Genocide Joe came into Power the world has seen two new major conflicts in which he is stuck in the middle of?
Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is a total piece of shit and not fit to hold any office. I just think Biden is also a piece of shit and I take great offence that he tries to draw a link to Ireland as if he is some part of us.
Quote from: Itchy on May 21, 2024, 04:10:10 PMQuote from: whitey on May 21, 2024, 02:46:52 PMQuote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 02:10:15 PMIt's degree lads. The Republicans want to give carte blanche to Israel. They're going mad at Biden for even pausing the shipments of 2000 lb bombs, with the House officially "rebuking" him recently. They're on tv arguing that the Gazan civilians are fair game because they elected and support Hamas. You think it's bad for the Palestinians now? Just wait till Trump wins and the GOP take back the Senate this autumn.
I know of Republicans who wouldn't care if every single resident of Gaza was killed
Their logic is that the Palestinians voted in Hamas, so they now need to live with the consequences
You don't think their are democrats that think that too?
Quote from: J70 on May 21, 2024, 02:10:15 PMIt's degree lads. The Republicans want to give carte blanche to Israel. They're going mad at Biden for even pausing the shipments of 2000 lb bombs, with the House officially "rebuking" him recently. They're on tv arguing that the Gazan civilians are fair game because they elected and support Hamas. You think it's bad for the Palestinians now? Just wait till Trump wins and the GOP take back the Senate this autumn.
Quote from: From the Bunker on May 19, 2024, 12:28:04 PMSF are on the slide. They were the rebellious vote. But are no longer in that mould.
A rebel without a cause. And not even a rebel anymore!
Quote from: burdizzo on May 16, 2024, 08:08:33 AMSF down 5 points in latest opinion poll.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:34:10 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:31:38 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
No-that's not what I said
I said their FPV % would drop by 25-33% off their 2020 GE FPV% where they got 24.5% of FPVs
General elections and Co Council elections 2 different things.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:30:19 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:22:26 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:15:14 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 07:11:55 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:59:56 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 06:47:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 06:32:45 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:32:02 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:29:52 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 04:09:27 PMQuote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 04:05:44 PMQuote from: whitey on May 15, 2024, 03:25:12 PMSinn Fein got 24.5 % of all FPVs in the 2020 GE
Anyone want to guess what their FPV % will be in the upcoming Local Elections
I'm going to say they will come in at 18%
You know we have proportional representation in elections don't you? So let's see do their seats go up or down. Let's see how the racists get on too.
Yes
But FPV% is a clearer indication as to whether top line support has gone up or down and it's bang front and center in every report written about the results of that election
https://www.irishtimes.com/election2020/results-hub
Just listened to the Gript Podcast-Peasar Toibin very impressive. Hermann Kelly-very unimpressive
haha, Gript again but now with Hermann Kelly.
Listen lad, the only metric that matters is number of seats. Its very simple, even for you.
Well if their FPV% collapses, there a good chance their seat count will too (but not guaranteed)
So your prediction is a collapse in Sinn Fein vote in the local elections. You predicting the same in the European elections?
Yes and yes
1/4-1/3 of the people who voted for them in 2020 will not vote for them this go around
Now due to PR, they may not lose 1/4-1/3 of their seats, but they will lose some
Which is scandalous considering they are the main opposition party to an historically unpopular government
OK, Sinn Fein in South currently has 1 MEP. You think they might lose that but if they don't it'll be because of PR.
What if I told you SF are nailed on to get 3 MEPs with an outside chance of 2nd seats in the 3 constituencies? You are saying that im wrong.
I'm saying Sinn Feins FPV % will fall by somewhere between 25% and 33% over what the received in 2020
How many MEPs will they lose/gain and how many co councillors will they lose/gain. Surely a man with your local knowledge knows enough to make that prediction.
Don't know because it depends on Turnout and transfers which no one can predict
Well it's great we found something you don't know. If you were in Ireland you could have watched a harrowing 3 part series into the deaths of 48 people in the Stardust fire. Lynn Boylan has worked with those working class families for years to secure a new inquest which in the end finally brought truth to the fore. Lynn Boylan will top the poll by a mile in Dublin. At the same time the people you seem to have similar beliefs to, are out burning buildings. Think about that.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.
Quote from: Itchy on May 15, 2024, 07:23:53 PMIn addition. In the last council elections SF got 9.5% of first preference votes and 81 elected councillors. You are predicting their 1st preference votes will drop by between 2.3% and 3.1%. That's a brave call.