Messages

Sad to read how deluded mayo people are on here, last summer mayo bullied cork with every nasty trick in the book the ref was one of those "let it flow" types, cork did not expect  such a battle and were unprepared and wilted as the game went on, this time cork played in the mayo stlye and how did mayo respond? By diving in such a numerous and pathetic manner that I have never before seen at a GAA match and never hope to see again. This "physical toughness" is all we are hearing from Mayo for the last year but it only works if the opposition are willing to lie down and allow themselves to walked over, when they stand up to Mayo they have nothing, and that diving lark won't con anyone anymore after the dreadful show ye made of yourslves last sunday.
Phony tough guys.

Just after watching the game ....
The moment in the game that sticks out in my mind the most is Noel O'Learys complete scumback act of trying to lift Donal Vaughan up of the ground - should have got a straight red. Another one was Michael Shields throwing the ball on Andy Moran as he lay on the ground injured ..... not near as bad as O'Learys but just shouldn't happen and should be a red too imho.
Hope the referees committees or whatever clamp down on this..... ditto the diving (Donal Vaughan, for a man as hard as steel you looked a fool for taking a dive)

Update: 'snap' Benny !

That same Mayo player got Mark Collins sent off in the earlier league game by diving and clutching his face, no doubt that was in Noels mind. And Shields threw the ball after the Mayo man "clutched his face" after zero contact, looks like refs aren't buying it anymore.

Is this the new Mayo "hard edge" we keep hearing about, act tough but when you get it back hit the deck clutching your face ala Rivaldo?

Looks like Kerry have lifted their boycott on Tohill. But no sign of Galvin? I'd have liked to see him try some of his finger tricks on the aussies.

Brolly the bluffer is like a broken clock, with all his bluff occasionally he hits the mark.

Sweeney said with Corks loses it would be impossible to retain Sam, Kerry were beaten out the gate last year at the same stage by down. How far would they have gotten this year without their 3 best forwards?

Well done Mayo, much the hungrier team and deserving of your win.
If you bring the same intensity and aggression to Kerry you will beat them, theyre no great shakes, they should hold no fear for you now.

Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.

Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Yes, I did read it and is why I said "Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect". My post was attempting to explain what I thought was the rationale behind what he was saying from a football point of view. He is a media figure and will use language to wind people up. Part of the terriority. It's also an objective opinion and not to be taken seriously. It's opinion, not fact. Anyone taking grave offence at that needs to grow up. Glad Donal Og got his way. There would probably have been some class of a strike had he not.

Youre right, its not to be taken seriously because it was a load of balls.
Cusack sent Brolly back to derry with his tail between his legs and now he fires pot shots at cork from the safety of his newspaper!
What happened to Tohill this year, did the Kerry mafia take him out? At least there was one good pundit from Derry.

[And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.]

Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

is that made up or can you back it up - I honestly don't know, it's just that since pauld kindly provided some stats on Cork half back scoring, i'd like to see figures from now on.
League and championship separate of course and number of games played will also be essential.

http://eircomsports.eircom.net/News/Stats-that-July-28.aspx

Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

What's insulting? Please detail these grevious insults.

If you call a man a c**t it might be insulting. Calling a system of play 'primative' is hardly insulting. His basis thesis is that if Cork adopted a more 'modern' system of play which didn't rely so heavily on the two guys on the inside line, they'd be near unbeatable. The fact that they win playing what Brolly terms 'primative' football where they 'bore' their way through teams should be taken as a complement as to how good they could be. His basic point is that Cork are winning despite themselves. He said that they beat a mediocre Down team by a point, and that's a fact.

As usual people just latch onto any word like 'primative' and run away making their own stories up. I'm not fan of Brolly as a pundit but he is correct in this case (imo). Anyone taking offence needs to step back and think about what he said and wrote. Don't also forget that he will embelish the words for dramatic effect. If he said 'traditional' instead of 'primative' would the offence be as great? It's also his own objective view which he is paid to present. Noone should take it too seriously, amateur or not.

Did you read the original article or not? If you you did you would see that the whole thing was in a mocking insulting tone, there was nothing constructive
in it. Read it and see.
Brolly was in a debate with Donal og Cusack about the GPA in the cork opera house a few months ago by all accounts Donal ran rings around him, Brolly is all bluster no substance.

Murphy knocked the ball down to colm oNeil to win the penalty against the dubs last year. I think he could do huge damage laying it off to kerrigan running thru, also will take the Mayo focus off Donnacha who's bound to get some special treatment given his form.

Stephen Lucey will start I think, he did a great job on the basketballer last year, Limerick will play an extra man back at least, kerrys halkbacks are vulnerable and stephen Kelly is very hard to stop, Ian Ryan is showing the form he had 2 years ago so limerick have 2 good scoring forwards.

I don't think limerick will win but there could be good value in limerick +5 at near 3/1.

Brolly being the talented QC that he is, outmanuevered the hapless Davis,
he said the article was taken out of context but the original article in gaelic life was far more insulting than the extracts on the examiner.
Davis failed to call him on it.
Brolly also wants to be an honourary kerry man his sycophancy towards them is cringe worthy.
And Cork half backs scored more than kerry HBs in the last 2 years.

Down were very physical, there were an awful lot of these high slaps on cork players as they were going past their men.
Cadogan, Walsh and o' Leary got punched off the ball, Cadogan had to go to hospital for suspected broken rib. And O' Driscoil was shouldered in the face in a blatant penalty but was completely bottled by Duffy.

No doubt kerry will try their usual tricks, in the munster game between these 2 counties gooch dived looking for a penalty even though they were up by 9 points,
the kerry diving culture is so ingrained in him he couldn't help it!

All the provinvial finals (With exception of Munster) have been abysmal for the neutral to watch. Leinster was like watch a basketball match.... kick pass seems to have died up there. Connaught - both finalists will be exposed when they meet a good team. Ulster final was so negative it was brutal to watch (Granted conditions were poor) Donegal take blanket defence to a whole new level

We in Kerry have been warning you of the pernicious influence of puke football for a long time and have only received abuse in return. Now you are seeing the effects as it spreads to the other provinces and is taken to yet another level again of negativity in Ulster.

Players like Colm Cooper are a dying breed. Would a nine-stone-and-nothing 18 year old playing in a purely forward role have made it in any other county ?   He'd never have been given the chance !. We need some other teams to step up and remain true to their principles and play football the way it was meant to be played otherwise we are headed for disaster.

Shure poor Gooch is such a weak little lad 

He's 6' and 13 stone, ask young o' Donovan from Balliniscarthy who was  grounded and then choked by the "tiny" Gooch on his debut.

Are there any Cork posters on this board?

Id say Cork believe this game is already won and they wont bother with postings or even attending.
Sure its a poor Down team they will be facing
On another note will down have a new horrible yella jersey for saturday night or will they appear in an all black number

Hardly!

We only barely beat you in Sept. and this time we lack Sheehan, Colm O Neil, Nicky Murphy all played a big part
in that win. Still tho' Down seem a bit off last years form.
Cork defence will be rejigged after the Kerry game and I hope the midfielders and half forwards will actually track their men this time.

The examiner said it will be a double header in croker with the kildare game