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#1
General discussion / Re: Greencastle Gold
November 28, 2017, 03:53:09 PM
Quote from: rosnarun on November 28, 2017, 03:29:25 PM
b**tard trying to package a gold find  as a good news story  what will the spindoctors think of next

Mongander  if you are part of a Lobby group . please declare your interest

As anyone with half a brain, or even anyone who has access to the internet will tell you, gold mining is one of the most toxic processes in the world.
There are NO examples of clean/environmentally friendly gold mines in the world.
The only thing universally associated with this industry is pollution and destruction.

I would have thought that someone with ties to Mayo, after all the people there have suffered at the hands of Shell, would have understood the threat of mass industrialisation and the theft of natural resources by foreign investors.

I live locally - that is my interest.
I am environmentally aware - that is my interest.
I do not want to see my football club destroyed due to a toxic gold mine less than a kilometre up the road from it - that is my interest.
I want to protect my community and local area - that is my interest.
I want to see my children and grandchildren live and prosper here, without the threat of cyanide, arsenic, or any other poisons hanging over their heads - that is my interest.
I do not want to see Ireland's natural resources being stolen to profit a foreign company or the crown estate - that is my interest.
I believe that Tyrone would be better suited to the promotion of sustainable tourism rather than the proliferation of toxic gold mines or monstrous wind farms - that is my interest.

Is that enough rosnarun, or should I continue?

Love Tyrone and Ireland is Not for Sale are two other Facebook pages you can check out for more info.

#NoToxicGold
#DalradianOutOfIreland
#SaveOurSperrins
#2
General discussion / Re: Greencastle Gold
November 28, 2017, 03:19:48 PM
All that glitters is not gold.

The threat this planning application presents to Greencastle, and to the surrounding areas (initially in Counties Tyrone, Derry, Donegal & Antrim) are devastating.

Dalradian have tried to package this as a good news story - quoting job creation and ridiculous amounts of money (based on no actual evidence - a point even noted on their own PR literature).

The reality is very different - there are limited jobs for a limited period of time.

At the end, what we are going to be left with is the total destruction of Greencastle village - this proposed "mine camp" (Dalradian CEO Patrick FN Anderson's own words), toxic processing plant and waste dump is to be located less than 1km from the local football pitch, primary school and play group.
The waste dump alone is bigger than the entire centre of Greencastle village.

The toxic processing plant, if passed, will become the epicenter for dumping and processing toxic heavy metals not just in Ireland, but in Europe and most likely beyond (with Brexit the area will not fall within the jurisdiction of the EU, and will therefore not be obliged to follow EU legislation).

This Canadian Company have already been granted discharge rights (by a Civil Servant in the absence of an operational government here) to dump numerous toxins - including arsenic, cadmium, chromium, lead, copper, zinc & others - into one of the most protected waterways in Europe (the Owenkillew River, a tributary of the Foyle).

No true Gael can stand idly by whilst this threat hangs over our heads.

Check out Save Our Sperrins or Greencastle Community Voices on Facebook/Twitter (amongst others) for updates and more information on this, that you mightn't necessarily hear from the mainstream media.

Dalradian greed will not succeed.

#NoToxicGold
#DalradianOutOfIreland
#SaveOurSperrins
#3
Quote from: blewuporstuffed on August 21, 2009, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: longrunsthefox on August 21, 2009, 03:52:14 PM
FFS.... is this all to appease Nelson McCausland and his cohorts who would close every GAA ground in the country if they could? It  would be scapegoating of the worst kind if Galbally are punished as loads of clubs hold tournaments to IRA volunteers etc. Also a lot of clubs in Tyrone mentioned the Galbally commemoration in their club notes... should they all be punished as well? If Galbally get punished Tyrone clubs should make some form of protest action.
have to agree with you there fox

good point well made...
...at least someone on this topic can argue a point.
;D
#4
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:50:26 PM
Im not in the same camp as Maggie Thatcher, the British, the Tory party, etc. etc. camp 

why do you insist on quoting entire posts of mine, then refuse to answer any of the questions posed directly to you in your replies?!?
:o

you can insist all you want that you're not in the same camp as Maggie Thatcher all you want, but as long as you keep repeating the same rhetoric as her you are only convincing yourself a chara.
#5
Quote from: Hardy on August 21, 2009, 03:40:03 PM
Hmmmm ... tell that to Jean McConville's family. Or to the families of the hundreds of other Catholics they murdered and "disappeared". Some defending.

ah yes, the "hundreds"...
...hard to beat a concrete argument/statistic like that.
well done.
#6
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:38:41 PM
Typical, just because someone disagrees with you, at least you don't shoot people for that anymore, or do you?

ah yes, because me calling you an idiot for your incoherent 'argument' is so much worse than you calling me an idiot after claiming i said something which i clearly did not...sound logic.
i notice you failed to answer any of the actual questions posed in my response...google/wiki running a bit slow for you today?
;)

shoot people?
:o
sure did you not hear about decommisioning!!!
:'(
#7
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:22:16 PM
Quote from: Mongander on August 21, 2009, 02:42:47 PM
The 1981 Hunger Strike was a pivotal and emotional time for all Gaels on the island of Ireland, and the lives of the ten brave men who lost their lives deserve to be celebrated. WAS IT REALLY, WAS IT, WAS IT, WAS IT? I am a Gael carrying a Gaelic surnname, a clan that has been in this area for at least 1,500 years, if you DARE say I'm not a Gael you truely are an idiot.
True Gael this, true Gael that, bloody hell what racist drivel. Its often people with feck all Gaelic ancestory that spout this.

another great point well argued.
where did i claim you weren't a true Gael?
& how could such a thing be classified as racist??

one thing we will agree on, you are an idiot.
;)
#8
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:17:46 PM
Ya & I can tell you anyone calling themselves the IRA after 1922 are terrorist criminals in my mind.

...and what part of the six counties are you from mo chara?
The Bogside?
The Falls?
South Armagh?
South Derry?
Somewhere in Tyrone perhaps?

The Provisional IRA were the defenders of the Catholic population since their emergence in 1969 when people were being burnt out of their homes whilst the Free State 'Government' "stood idly by"
How an army born to defend an oppressed and under seige native community can be branded "terrorist" is beyond me...
???


Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:17:46 PM
The Irish people voted for the Treaty, the Irish people voted for The Good Friday Agreement.

yeah...where did i say they didn't?
what is your point here?!?
???

Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 03:17:46 PMI am not spouting Thatcher I am saying that Terrorism is a criminal act, if she said the same, then that means that wow 2 people in a planet with 6 billion people once said the same obvious thing.

it was quoted before, and i'll say it again, "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter".
Without those who gave up their lives on the 1981 Hunger Strike there would never have been such a thing as political status for prisoners - republican or otherwise.

as for being in the same camp with Maggie, whatever makes you happy..it just was not so "obvious" for myself and the majority of my community during the Troubles...
#9
GAA Discussion / Re: AISF Aug 23rd Tyrone v Cork
August 21, 2009, 03:08:37 PM
can't wait for Sunday, gonna be a cracking game, and im fully confident the mighty Red Hands will do the business and make it back-to-back Final appearances come September 20th.

Tír Eoghain Abú!!!!
#10
Quote from: Hereiam on August 20, 2009, 05:16:45 PM
1995 All Ireland Final against Dublin. We were robbed that year.

Paddy Russell, Charlie Redmond, the disallowed point, Canavan's performance - Tyrone robbed of our first All-Ireland...sad times.
:'(
#11
Quote from: Son_of_Sam on August 21, 2009, 12:53:13 PM
OK I might be out here on my own about this one, but where these people not convicted terrorists? Alot of people consider terrorism a form of criminality. So you could say that criminals should not have special status!

great stuff!
someone with a Michael Collins avatar spouting Maggie Thatcherisms.
:o
Just what a GAA forum needs.
well done muppet.
#12
Quote from: Maguire01 on August 19, 2009, 06:34:44 PM
Surprised this hasn't been posted already...

why were you surprised this had not already been posted?
surely the blighted views of Nelson McCausland merit no mention on a GAA forum?

Quote from: Maguire01 on August 19, 2009, 06:34:44 PMIt's a shame yet again that some people have felt it appropriate to use a GAA ground for such activities. And all it does is give the DUP another stick to beat the Association with.

why is it a shame?
and for who?
surely this is a decision for the people of Galbally, and the GAA community in County Tyrone to decide upon.
how does it affect you what the club facilities in Galbally are used for?
The 1981 Hunger Strike was a pivotal and emotional time for all Gaels on the island of Ireland, and the lives of the ten brave men who lost their lives deserve to be celebrated.
County Tyrone lost Vol. Martin Hurson during the Hunger Strike and the people of his local community (and the wider republican family) are completely within their rights to celebrate this young man's life within the locality.

Obviously this is another act of political point scoring by the DUP who are only concerned in the seeming rise in popularity by the TUV following the recent European Elections.

Shame on the SDLP for lowering themselves (once again) into siding with hardline unionism, and commenting on yet another 'non-issue'.

Tír Eoghain Abú!!
TÁL!!