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Plenty of snow in Killeavy - but hardly a flake in Crossmaglen - these boys are fierce quick on the draw - I blame Sludden - just for the craic.

I have heard so many rumours over this appointment - wanted to see if any might be confirmed or denounced here.
On the five man player committee th ratify POR's appointment, out of R Clarke, Stevie, Marty OR, Ciaran McK and an other, only stevie wanted POR. they have worked together before I think. THis would suggest Stevie MIGHT stay on, but the fact that he is keen to start a club management career would argue against it.
Hughie Morgan asked the Armagh strength coach (rugby dude, his name escapes me) how he would like working with POR THREE Weeks ago.,yet everyone at the Ulster Writers do on Friday night was as surprised as the rest of Armagh at the appointment.
Ciaran McK was livid at the thought of playing under Pete McGrath because of his Down heritage - how will he react to POR?
POR will be a figurehead, and the driving force of the management team will be the "Dream Team" of Marsden, McGrane,and  McConville - POR has proven himself to be tactically niaive and mallable by those around him in previous appointments, and will let them dictate tactics.
Hey, it is the only thing anyone is talking about in the county, just wanted to air some of the sentiments.

Done

Thanks for a measured response, I wish I had been as considered in the middle of the night.

The fact that clarification was posted of a horrible rumour, and this information could then be dissimenated back to its purveyors to dispel these rumours, was, I thought, one of the most valuable usages of this forum I had ever seen.  

As has been said, real emotions were at play, and I thought the thread helped to allay real real fears. That was the thrust of my at times rash postings

Once again I understand that if I don't like it, go somewhere else, but sure that is a handy rebuttal.

All this crap aside, if the family wanted posts pulled - pull the post.nuff said.  No offence meant.  

Yes you are - but as long as you are happy, sure isn't it handier than thinking for yourself.

It is though, a discussion board, and I am not demanding an explaination from a moderator, i am throwing open the issue of censorship on this board.  The circular arguments you make have worn me down

I should not however have used this particular instance to raise the issue, it is keeping it alive, and that is not my intention.

This is not a board for free speech - kow tow to the moderator, Message received. I will revert to lurking until I learn to behave as you do, say as you do, do as you do.

And they gave out about the regime in China!!!

It is not too hard to boggle you mind is it?

People on this board KNOW that there are people on this board well placed, in this instance, to confirm/ deny/ comment on this particular rumour.I would have thought you, the guru, woudl have at least known that.  That was one of the points of the post in the first place - do keep up!

It is all about the specifics, not the generalities and "whatiffery" that you are boggling yourself with. This was a massive rumour today, all round this area, and all over the country.

People did not need to go on-lne to hear it. Pick holes in my sentiments all night,  but this was a specific posting on a genuine matter concerning a much loved and respected figure-head in this area.

Am I not allowed to ask why it is not allowed?  It is a discussion board after all.

What is mind-boggling to me is that you have no clue what I am on about - and I am the immature one.

To J7upyourownhole0 To continue this he-said she-said bullshit, I never said you said you were the voice of the board, you just ooze that self-important self -rightousness. I am NOT a "newbie" and despite your probably much coveted "hero"  status, I have been on this forum in its various guises since 2001 or there abouts, and I can bombastically proclaim that "I think I have a feel for what is and what isn't accepted at this stage", but I feel it would make me sound like a tool, so I won't bother.

You look down on valid questions from your perch of gaaboard omniscience, I hope it is warm up there, but I just wish you would actually read and respond to what I said, and the reasons I bothered my arse to say it.
Ban it, delete it, down with this sort of thing - you are a "hero", I bet you have the badge to prove it, so mature!

Thanks for a reasoned response, but is it reasonable in this instance?

As I said before, the speculation was rife all over s Armagh. so friends and family had much more chance of hearing it off-line than on this board. Anyone who knows Joe and who read the board could immediatley verify or scotch the story, and, once the truth had been posted, what is the harm in people knowing that a false rumour was in circulation and has been put to bed? Also as I said before, a report of the RUMOUR made the tv news, and they did not see it as censorious to broadcast it.

Is part of a forum like this not to communicate truths and verify facts within this community?  the knee-jerk response is to decry the posting - and it is down to personal opinion as you say

But if I was one of Joe's friends or family, unable to get in touch with him or his, because they were flying - (as correctly stated), then I would have thought the fact that apparently reliable and well-placed sources had exposed the story to be a lie, would have been a welcome and useful service to the wider GAA community.

I know I can leave the board if I don't like it - I don't need idiots to tell me that little gem of wisedom. All I am asking is why immediately throw the "baby" of free speech out with the "bathwater" of political correctness and forum regulations?

The whole COUNTRY was talking about this today, it was not a few comments in a bar in Crossmaglen. The family and freinds were inundated with calls about it, as I have later learned, so where is the disrespect in asking if anyone on this board could shed light on the issue? If you can explain how questions on here, voicing genuine concern,  show disrespect for the Kernan family, then I will stand corrected.
Your comment on the rules of the board are just plain stupid - once again, what rule was broken by the thread? I know what rules MIGHT have been broken if the thead was being used to spread malicious rumours, but it was NOT. Your imagined rule breaches do not actually count.
Your committment to debate is pretty impressive in itself I must say. You do not address the initial premise of the argument, instead you lapse into a knee-jerk reaction to percieved disprespect that you have no knowledge of, because it might have happened, it might have been that way. Is the committment to debate best demonstrated by telling people to dissappear to another forum if they are not happy with the status quo - I would love you on my debating team - what a winner!

If you had read what I said, you would realise that it was exactly NOT being used as a vehicle for "spreading wild, unsubstantiated rumours"

Were the words too big for you, or the concept too difficult?

Stories fly about, truth established, stories stop flying about. Does that make it easier.  

And who made you the voice of this board anyway.  You find another board if you find my comments objectionable.

Can anyone tell me what is wrong with using this board to query if a very strong rumour has any basis in fact. There were wild stories flying around all day about the health of Joe Kernan. People were genuinely concerned, and as a community of gaels with connections to clubs all over the country, what better way to establish the veracity of the stories, and, as thankfully turns out to be the case, to scotch these rumours as soon as possible, to reduce the obvious negative effects they could have on family and friends, than to post a query on this board?

No-one on the removed thread said definitively that the stories were true, all were asking the question  if it was true or not, and some very good souces came on to he spread light on the claims that had the whole of south Armagh (at least) chatting round water coolers, or whatever passes as such in their respective places of work.

So,when, as I said, the truth is revealed, the board falls over in a heap, and all references to the stories, the true facts etc, are wiped. 

WHY?

there was no reference to that bullshit about the Tyrone performance having anything to do with it, there was no malice in anything I read on the removed thread, and yet you had slabbers on here shouting about how it should never have been posted. People were ringing into the bloody Newry Reporter to ask them was it true, it was on the TV news later today that these stories had been spread, and that they were false, the Kernan family were inundated with calls to make sure it was not true, and yet here, on a forum for communication about all these related to Gaelic Games (or so I thought) we are not allowed to speak of it.

Knee-jerk - "you can't say that" "how dare you even raise the question" why - it was NOT meant to be malicious, it was not spreading lies, it was looking for truth, and it was pulled. Joe is a hero, a legend, and I am delighted that it seems to be a case of mistaken identity, but come on moderators, a wee bit of moderation.

Absolutely NO CRAIC about this game at all on here  I would have expected a bit of banter from the Fermanagh heads - some sweaty hands or squeaky bum stories  on their first shot at Ulster in thirty seven million years or whatever it is.
There are a few flags flying round the hills of south Armagh, but to be honest they are looking a bit ragged, having been put up to annoy the auld enemy before the Down game, rather than to celebrate the upcoming final
I remember very clearly the feelings on the run-up to Armagh's first Ulster in years, and the unswerving belief that we were going to be bate, again, and that there was no point in getting excited.
Years on, is this the overarching feeling in Fermanagh camp, or could you just not be arsed posting?

My brother was dancing on it last Friday - nothern team bate again by the locals.  Did any one tape it by any chance because we missed it.

Maybe still stirring an empty pot, but I keep hearing that all the O'Rourkes have walked out of Dromintee (not sure if that includes Malachy btw) over Loughran-gate.

Any truth in the rumour