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If Armagh are beat by Cork and Monaghan win. Armagh are relegated based on pts difference. As it stands Galway are relegated more than likely. So basically we need to beat Cork next Sunday.

What annoys me: We have lost three quality forwards in Stefan Forker, Ryan Henderson and Kevin ORourke- all since POR has taken over, simply because he doesnt "rate" these lads. We need the likes of these lads who are going to pose a scoring threat on the opposition. IMO its worrying that we have absoultely no HF line and ff aren't doing much either.

Some positives to be taken from last nite but unfortunately a lot more negatives.

How'd clann eireann do? Or Keady?

Howd keady v Sarsfields go tonite?

Think it would be fair to say that Kevin orourk should also be given his chance. IMO he was disregarded far too early by POR. Joke the way forker was treated.

How'd keady do?

St Michaels beat Silverbridge. 1-7 to 12pts.
We missed alot but St michaels were all over us. Kevin O'Rourke scored 6 points from play.

He was told he wasn't good enough and I heard this from a reliable source. Good to see Marty O'r back. Swift at number 11 for sunday i hope

Was martin o'r injured or not on the panel? Also heard Kevin o'rourke is to be brought back on panel. Hope this is true should be a big boost for us in the forward line if so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jVOtyoKaDQ

He knew before taking the job, Armagh had a lack of scoring forwards but gets rid of Kevin Orourke, who was miles ahead of Henderson and Forker last season in my book, and also Steven Kernan who would also be capable of a score or two? This is simply laughable.

[But who gives a f**k about the league anyway.]

Load of shite.

Playing catch up from McEvoy's Heartyesque fcuk up. Can't afford to let any team run up an eight point lead, never mind a hyped up Down side on a roll. Did well to get back into it, but the sending off killed our chances and the game as a spectacle. What was it for, no one had a clue in the crowd? Ref definitely seemed like the officious sort who wasn't for letting anything go, maybe he was right to but it didn't help the game. In addition to their decent forwardline, Down have a good blanket defense defensive system and there are few teams that'll beat them easily. But we're no great barometer at this stage, so although they're moving in the right direction, talk of Ulster titles or anything else is a bit premature.

Even allowing for being a man down, we were very flat and unimaginative. Only McDonnell offered any scoring threat in the second half after the withdrawal of Henderson and Forker. The management did not come out well with these two changes. The introduction of Vernon stank of panic. Charlie wasn't fit to fart tonight and we were effectively playing with 13 men with him on the field. His move to midfield didn't help either as it took Austin, who'd been doing well, away from there. Although Mackin did alright, we needed Forker, or at least another forward on the pitch. We'd 5 or 6 midfielders and one FF after that change. It made no sense, we weren't doing too badly around the middle, but were struggling up front.

Still a solid shot at promotion, two wins should secure second spot, but a wee bit of a reality check for any that had allowed themselves to get carried away by the last three wins. We're still very much in the infancy of any revival.

But who gives a f**k about the league anyway.

Dunno maybe it was when mckeever stood on him? Had the kids with me tonight such a role model mckeever is.

Apparantly marty clarkes ribs broke. Mckeever must be proud. What a dirty act it was.

any links for todays game?

Yes. What did tony k do in the 1st half that KOR couldnt have done. I think the switch could have been held out to half time. It was a bad act and cowardly on Peter Mcdonalds behalf. Why didnt he start Tony K instead of waitin on one of the forwards to make a mistake and humiliatin them by taken them off after nine minutes?