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Sorry I forgot to mention. Shane Mcguigan had a brilliant game and deserved the man of the match award. He's a class forward and great to watch. 

 A forward is on a football team to score or create scores. If he doesn't then he is substituted. This is the case in football at all levels , from underage to reserve club teams to county teams. "Leadership" sounds great as does the modern phrase  " the high press" which basically mark your opponent for the kickouts as players have been taught to do for years. It's nothing new  of course but  using terms like this can get you a job  as a manager or a pundit  and hence money.

10 and 12 years old. An outside  coach/ manager brought in to oversee underage teams . Paid for by volunteers raising money. He has all the coaching badges etc and can speak the lingo. Very impressive things  such as : High press ,  mental strength ,  turnovers, percentage pass , shot selection , leadership qualities, game management , shot to score ratio ,  the loop ,  off the shoulder ....blah blah blah.  There's money to be made talking  like this .A lot of money. It's estimated 60 % of  spending  by all clubs is on managers /  coaches. These parasites are contributing to the dire state football is in today.

   

He's a class forward no doubt but showed leadership?Really? Forwards are meant to take on defenders and score,simple. I do hope Armagh revert to the playing style of last year. Mimicking Derrys style will get them only so far before they are embarrassed like Derry were last year against Galway and this year in the div. 2 final against Dublin. Armagh are better than that. They were great to watch until this year. The fear of losing perhaps? Two young relatives  of mine were taken to Croke park last year for their  first  time  to watch the Galway Armagh game and were completely blown away by the spectacle. They started training with a local club this spring and spent every session without once kicking a ball..A modern well paid manager in charge and they were taught none of the basic skills. They watched two games on tv , one involving Donegal and the other involving Derry. They are now playing soccer. This is the problem with people like RG and many others at club and county level all over Ireland. They are destroying a great game and they even don't care.   

Never been on a forum like this before Wildweasel74. Ive only been reading the comments posted here for a few weeks.

Armagh are capable of playing football so they are worth watching in the hope that that they might do. Derry will play as they always do so hopefully they'll be eleminated soon so everyone won't waste another Sunday afternoon of their life

If Armagh play as they can do then yes they will be worth watching. Derry will play as they always do so hopefully will get beaten soon and  everyone can watch a game of football rather than wasting a Sunday afternoon of ones life

Derry will get thrashed by a proper footballing team in Croke Park when they meet one in the near future. It'll be good for the game too. A team playing football.