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[Cavanagh is quite probably the worst pundit in history]

"Besides not liking Sean what did he say that's incorrect?"

First of all I'm completely biased here and i know it. Cavanagh is quite probably the worst pundit in history. His lack of research is appalling, on a par with Spillane and Brolly, but he's just no loquacious enough to cover it up. He has an odd sense of humour. And his sense of place - I.e. talking about grassroots - always seems based on what he reads on Twitter rather than what's happening in an actual club.

So what did he say that's incorrect? From my perspective he's taking swipes and he doesn't have the foggiest what it is he's swiping at. He's just throwing out irrelevances. Joining in on conversation that he doesn't care much about, and accidentally taking it off on a new angle that nobody needs.

Worse than Tony Davis?

Paul "and your just thinking to yourself" Flynn would like a word.

[Empirical evidence suggests there is almost no such thing as home advantage in GAA as most matches are between 60-40 to 40-60 supporter levels. Since Super 8 came in and then round robin, results have shown no advantage to playing at home. Likewise when you examine Connacht and Ulster championship. There are as many away wins as home wins. Now, if there are games where Dubs (or anyone else) have 70-80% of the crowd, then absolutely that's an advantage. But that never happens at AI semi and final level. And only started happening at Leinster final level when Kildare and Meath fans gave up the ghost.]

Dublin senior club football full of money,  nearly a professional setting, hence better pick than anybody else

That's certainly more to do with it than the GDOs and Croke Park.
The GDOs are a complete red herring. They have nothing to do with elite players in clubs, never mind county level.
Empirical evidence suggests there is almost no such thing as home advantage in GAA as most matches are between 60-40 to 40-60 supporter levels. Since Super 8 came in and then round robin, results have shown no advantage to playing at home. Likewise when you examine Connacht and Ulster championship. There are as many away wins as home wins.

Now, if there are games where Dubs (or anyone else) have 70-80% of the crowd, then absolutely that's an advantage. But that never happens at AI semi and final level. And only started happening at Leinster final level when Kildare and Meath fans gave up the ghost.

At minor and U20/1 level, there is rarely anything between Dubs, Kildare and Meath. The current pick of all three senior teams comes from lads who played in those games. Dublin club levels doesn't really increase the pick for the Dubs, in that if you haven't played minor and/or U20 you're not getting picked by the Dubs (with very very rare exception) but it's huge in bridging the gap from underage to adult. Week-in, week-out high quality football. That for me has to be one of the key reasons Dublin players seem to improve after U20 (and we probably retain more in the game too) than many other counties.

There are other advantages we have, such as everyone living in the county and less wasted travel time to training etc (esp compared to the likes of Mayo).

People who spout on that the games development funding is even remotely anything to do with how the Dubs go from being one of many counties that regularly produce decent underage teams to being so outstanding at senior intercounty are way off base. Either just ignorant or deliberately misleading

If you can't see the advantage in playing in the same venue 10-15 times a year, in your county, when other teams play in it 2 or 3 times if they're lucky, I don't know what to tell you.

I also would not agree that its a 50/50 split at AI semi final and finals. The ticket distribution might say that, but it isn't. Not to mention kicking into a sea of blue behind one of the goals, you're just bias, and that's fine.

Killyman beaten by Donaghmore Thirds which is the only game they won in 2023 (Donaghmore III lost every game last year).

Things must be getting really dicey for them lately, your heart would go out to anyone trying to keep the thing going with the amount of lads moving away at the minute. Must be trojan work.

Definite split in division 3 as many men have mentioned on here, Raymond Monteith mentioned it at county convention a few months ago. You could see there being a 3A and 3B in the near future the way things are going, the gap between the junior contenders and the bottom is widening every year.

They're a frustrating outfit are Cork. They'll probably give this a good rattle and ultimately lose by a couple - then beat Tipp when the pressure is off - leaving another 6 months of chatter of being not that far away.

The best of the U20 All Ireland winning teams need ushered in ASAP - it needs done even if it meant a dip for a year or two. The current players in that team that are 30+ have had more than enough chances. In fairness I think Ben Cunningham would have easily started this year but for injury. Other than Joyce and Connolly not many have made an impact.

They've never been that terrible over the years but clearly never close to winning the big prizes either. The appetite is still there from the public down there as seen by attendance expected on Saturday night. I think they are good for the game when they're motoring well.

["It's their time!"]

I don't know. I just have visions of Rian O'Neill giving a Tohillesque tour de force, driving Armagh on to win through sheer force of will.

Pundits leaning Armagh from what I've heard so far. "It's their time!" seems to be the consensus.

Seen quite a bit of this as well. Oisin McConville and Stevie McDonnell have also mentioned Armagh having the better footballers. On what basis?

The notion that Armagh have one of the best forward lines in the country is complete fabrication. Saying that you'd be a brave man to opt for one of these times by 3+ points, there will be nothing in it.

There's a definite sense of now or never for this iteration of Armagh football, there would be potential to kick on a bit if they can win this.

Hopefully not played at a slow laborious pace, as I'd imagine I'll be giving the Leinster final a miss.

Let's hope we get the Tyrone / Derry Ulster final everyone wants to see. With no back door and a title on the line it'll be a cracker.

Also just looking at that panel, if Donaghmore don't nick a championship with this generation of players it genuinely will never happen. I know there has been many a good underage squad come through the ranks at every club, but rarely with this kind of Tyrone representation. You'd think with these lads being in development squads so long they must have their heads screwed on and mightn't fall to the distractions other lads would.

7 players in a matchday 24 is some going, can't think of it previously but I'm sure Errigal probably done it at some stage

Any idea when championship draw/dates is made?

I think the dates were released to clubs along with the dates for the league games about 4-6 weeks ago. No idea when the draw is.

Callum Brown after kicking 5 goals in season opener down under. That's no mean feat, would be a great day at the office for even the stars in the AFL

I think most of these boys are laughing career wise on the contrary.
The amount of current and former Tyrone players teaching within the county is some coincidence given how hard it is to find permanent posts in the north. Not to mention the Cathal McShane / Keystone debacle.
If we're talking sacrifices I don't think "career" is bothering too many of them.
Now sheer time given up is another thing altogether, and they deserve to be commended for it. I think any chance they get for a break is well deserved.

I made my way down to Kerry from Clare yesterday with my 8 year old daughter for what was a mostly enjoyable day. Nice weather, the Kerry scenery beautiful as always. The game wasn't too bad either bar the Tyrone wides and ref a little whistle happy at times for both teams. Doesn't feel like a bad defeat for Tyrone. A few defensive tweaks in the second half and we were back in it but it was too little, too late. During melee, I was disappointed to hear"shower of kna**ers, always were, always will be"from the row behind me. Middle aged, well dressed man from Kerry with small kids. Not nice to hear and disappointing for all within earshot, Kerry and Tyrone fans alike. I know there's always one but it felt very personal. Could do without it.

I've had a couple of hairy enough experiences at Croke Park for Tyrone v Kerry games. It definitely over steps the mark from time to time in that fixture. There's also a lorry load of bad incidents in the All Ireland club series between Tyrone and Kerry teams in the last 20 years. I'd support Derry or Armagh in a game against Kerry, wouldn't even be up for debate either

Would  love to see a bigger unit in the full forward line to compliment mc curry/canavan. Either of mc Shane, mattie donnelly or mc gleenan would  be worth a go when available.

Wouldn't have McShane on the radar again until your shown otherwise. What's the craic with McShane has been asked some times in the last few years.

Don't see it with McGleenan.

[Dessie Farrell]

The problem is if you are a manager that tends to say what's on your mind like Davy Burke, your comments will be a section on the podcasts as the 65 training sessions was on Parkinson's Smaller Fish and the RTE one above. The difference is at least Eamon Fitzmaurice knew that was normal if 3 + 2 gym sessions a week since early Nov whereas Wooly was as usual like the immature little child.

Davy however would be better off becoming a bit more like Jack O'Connor or Dessie Farrell and offer a few meaningless soundbytes, and also be a little less available to the media. Offering his level of detail is an unnecessary distraction to the team.

I'm sure Farrell is a good fella but interviewing him is a waste of everyone's time

https://twitter.com/D9BMayo/status/1436563989857767427

Still class

[Niall O]

Derry were impressive last night, the attacking play was top drawer at stages with attacks in waves and 2 me  running off the shoulder.
That's the first time I've seen a change in style of play, last year we'd run to the corners and then play it back out and across until we got a shooter in a good position.  Last night was much more dynamic and our half back line was immense.
I thought Murray played well, not sure why he was taken  off but Toner did well when introduced too.
Gilmore was very good when he came on.
Mcfaul at an excellent first half.
Glass and Rogers on top for the entire game too.
Mckaigue is a liability.  The amount of needless fouls and the mouthing. He's a red card waiting to happen  and he's not the marker he was. I feel at full strength he's on the bench with mcevoy in there.
We are looking like we have a strong panel now with most positions covered, apart maybe from whb.

Scullion looked more comfortable last night also easing any doubts I had of him after the appearance against Tyrone, but Lynch was out warming up which is hopefully a sign he won't be out for very long

Yes he looked like he's stepping up alright.
But...he wasn't under any real pressure in that game. I don't think he had a single shot to stop.
But kickouts were good, positioning was good, seems very mobile too. I hope he gets another game or two, even if Lynch is recovered. It will protect Lynch, improve Scullion and let the other players get used to playing with him.
Baker really growing into it too, a very assured performance. Hard to fault anyone really on that game.
I was surprised Niall O was playing tbh, after the Sigerson mid week. He's bound to have been on the beer after it. But no shortage of work rate from him all the same.

Unreal work rate anytime Loughlin plays, you need these boys in any successful team