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A lot of people here saying about downs poor or lack of a kick out strategy.. would just like to point out down haven't had a quality midfielder since Ambrose & Big Dan, personally think this is a major flaw in downs game which from seeing a lot of club football I can't really see where the next quality midfielder is coming from!! Also a real star in the forward line is missing too, Ohare our closest thing but is too inconsistent & gets bullied by the big boys!