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Even if Britain does not exit this time the union is fatally flawed. It simply does  not serve the overall interests of the members. These interests go beyond simple economic concerns. Culture has a value as well. It must be preserved. Welshmen from valleys singing their national anthem before facing Irishmen from the 4 provinces has real meaning. People are lying to themselves or others if the think this experience can be diluted.

It is being diluted.  Kiwis playing for Wales who can't speak Welsh . They may even be muslim.

Again, Connacht are leading the way here.

Is there any other side in Europe that has less cultural connection  with its native population ? 

Even if Britain does not exit this time the union is fatally flawed. It simply does  not serve the overall interests of the members. These interests go beyond simple economic concerns. Culture has a value as well. It must be preserved. Welshmen from valleys singing their national anthem before facing Irishmen from the 4 provinces has real meaning. People are lying to themselves or others if the think this experience can be diluted.

they can sing to their hearts content, the prince of wales is still an English man. do you hate all people of colour or is it just muslims? are white muslims ok?

Its not about skin color. It is as simple as feeling some connection to the land/people you live amongst. You don't even have to belt out the anthem. Resonable people can make reasonable allowances like the pained exression on Rory Bests face when the soldiers song comes on.

However, if you signal at every opportunity your disdain for the country you live in then f**k you. You are the enemy because you want to be the enemy.

Does that mean all GAA fans n the north are enemies ?

No. Don't be silly. The GAA may be seen as the enemy but they are still part of the culture. Its like Rangers v Celtic. They absolutely hate each other but they are forever stuck in a tortured embrace much like repressed homosexuals.

I've read more of your threads .Your demonization of the protestant community in the north is strange. It is quite relentless. That is a template for how the far right should operate. You really know how to pull the strings. I'll give you that much.

Dalquen, what is your point exactly?

I acknowledge that there are cultural differences between refugees coming into Europe from various middle-eastern and north african countries. To what extent these cause major problems such as the ones you've highlighted I don't know but I'm going to guess that when you're talking in six figure sums at least then it is the minority.

If we agree on this, what is it you want? For everyone else to acknowledge it?

With all due respect, you don't understand the complete shift in perception that has happened. The entire world is now accessible to anyone. A whole new level of consciousness burst upon the third world about how easy it was to get into Europe. We cant reverse this. You cannot unknow what is known.

With all due respect, how do you know what I know or don't know, not that I claimed to know anything.

What I did do was ask you a simple question which you didn't answer. Would you mind doing so now?

My point is obvious from the thread title. Even moderate Islam is incompatible with liberal, European values. They must adapt. Even conservative Catholics in Europe have been forced to adapt....why should we tip-toe around the sensitivity of muslims ?

There are approximately 50,000 muslims living in Ireland. If your contention is that the mainstream media might not report any difficulties that they bring, have you any inkling that this sizeable minority are experiencing compatibility issues or, as it probably more important in your view, are the Irish having problems adjusting to them living here?

The muslim population in Ireland is not large enough (yet) to be in a position to exersize any political weight. Only when Ireland is faced with the same threat as equivalent US/Europeand counrties can we judge them.

Even if Britain does not exit this time the union is fatally flawed. It simply does  not serve the overall interests of the members. These interests go beyond simple economic concerns. Culture has a value as well. It must be preserved. Welshmen from valleys singing their national anthem before facing Irishmen from the 4 provinces has real meaning. People are lying to themselves or others if the think this experience can be diluted.

they can sing to their hearts content, the prince of wales is still an English man. do you hate all people of colour or is it just muslims? are white muslims ok?

Its not about skin color. It is as simple as feeling some connection to the land/people you live amongst. You don't even have to belt out the anthem. Resonable people can make reasonable allowances like the pained exression on Rory Bests face when the soldiers song comes on.

However, if you signal at every opportunity your disdain for the country you live in then f**k you. You are the enemy because you want to be the enemy.

So which one is he lads? Fox? Mikehunt? He's too coherent to be Stew.

Mikeysheehy

fox, mikehunt, Tyrones Own , Mikesheehy...... thinking about everyone you ever disagreed with and labelling them is not a good position to take.

I've never disagreed with any of them 

good. All viewpoints have value. People need to re-evaluate what qualifies as extremist.

Dalquen, what is your point exactly?

I acknowledge that there are cultural differences between refugees coming into Europe from various middle-eastern and north african countries. To what extent these cause major problems such as the ones you've highlighted I don't know but I'm going to guess that when you're talking in six figure sums at least then it is the minority.

If we agree on this, what is it you want? For everyone else to acknowledge it?

With all due respect, you don't understand the complete shift in perception that has happened. The entire world is now accessible to anyone. A whole new level of consciousness burst upon the third world about how easy it was to get into Europe. We cant reverse this. You cannot unknow what is known.

With all due respect, how do you know what I know or don't know, not that I claimed to know anything.

What I did do was ask you a simple question which you didn't answer. Would you mind doing so now?

My point is obvious from the thread title. Even moderate Islam is incompatible with liberal, European values. They must adapt. Even conservative Catholics in Europe have been forced to adapt....why should we tip-toe around the sensitivity of muslims ?

Even if Britain does not exit this time the union is fatally flawed. It simply does  not serve the overall interests of the members. These interests go beyond simple economic concerns. Culture has a value as well. It must be preserved. Welshmen from valleys singing their national anthem before facing Irishmen from the 4 provinces has real meaning. People are lying to themselves or others if the think this experience can be diluted.

So which one is he lads? Fox? Mikehunt? He's too coherent to be Stew.

Mikeysheehy

fox, mikehunt, Tyrones Own , Mikesheehy...... thinking about everyone you ever disagreed with and labelling them is not a good position to take.

Calls for banning ?

Do you lads even understand the concept of free speech ?

This is why America is such a great country. They understand that all opinion must be protected. You fascists want to shut it down immediately.

Dalquen, what is your point exactly?

I acknowledge that there are cultural differences between refugees coming into Europe from various middle-eastern and north african countries. To what extent these cause major problems such as the ones you've highlighted I don't know but I'm going to guess that when you're talking in six figure sums at least then it is the minority.

If we agree on this, what is it you want? For everyone else to acknowledge it?

With all due respect, you don't understand the complete shift in perception that has happened. The entire world is now accessible to anyone. A whole new level of consciousness burst upon the third world about how easy it was to get into Europe. We cant reverse this. You cannot unknow what is known.

[cultural Marxism]

I d say you were disappointed when this came out
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-only-three-out-of-58-men-arrested-in-connection-with-mass-sex-attack-on-new-years-eve-are-a6874201.html

It doesn't matter whether they are refugees or migrants. the important thing is that they thought it was ok to do this. These are not isolated incidents. It is part of a wider cultural acceptance of rape called "Taharrush".

Unless we confront the realities of these cultural clashes then we are doomed. We all have a duty to avoid the extremism of the 30's but part of that acceptance is recognizing and listening to the concerns of all. This involves keeping an open mind and being educated on all issues such as Brexit, the EU, cultural Marxism, immigration, neo-liberalism etc and what it REALLY means to you.

Does it annoy you having to denounce Nazi's to try and get yourself heard lol just liek the I'm not a racist but...

You're not exactly approaching this with an open mind yourself, you're idea of an open mind seesm to be people that agree with you.

Cultural Marxism is a figment of the Far Rights imagination, a catch all term that means f**k all, it shows the total lack of depth to any argument , homosexualty = Cultural Marxism, Bi-racial Marriage = Cultural Marxism, Snow days but having to go to school = Cultural Marxism.

Its actually another recycling of your arguments in this thread or an outside terror we need to defend against whether its a brown skinned terror or the red terror.

I have no problem identifying as a  "white supremacist" and make no apologies for it but with one clarification. My view on the  "supemacism" part is that it is more of a defensive position in the sense that I think European culture, for all its faults,  is ok and has done much good and needs to be preserved. That does not mean I support the extremities of the 30's.

The imagery of the 30's/40's is great for PR though. It gets both sides all riled up so we will continue to use it to serve our purpose. Cultural "hooks" are very important. Why do you think ISIS spread so quickly. Those lads understand fascism better than anyone.

3/10. Must try harder in sock puppet class.

No sock puppetry. I'm not hiding anything. I've said quite openly I believe in preserving white culture. If certain races/religions need to be eliminated to preserve that culture then so be it.

Lads its not a joke anymore. engage or lose the argument.

The GAA does not remotely reflect the cultural diversity of this island. How can this be justified ?

So which one is he lads? Fox? Mikehunt? He's too coherent to be Stew.

Tyrones Own?

fox, mikhunt, Tyrones own......who are these lads 

Why do you lads feel the need to insult anyone you disagree with ?

If you have a disagreement with me just argue your case, even those arguments you deem "self evident"..

No position or argument should be deemed above argument. This has been one of the crucial failures of the left which is why it is utterly failing as a political force these days.

In the 30s this kind of shite led to genocide

cmon Seafoid....I've read your posts......we are on the same side here