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What has the talent of the wider Tipp panels got to do with your statement above accusing Sars best players of being bottlers and underachievers "individually", which of the above three is a bottler and could have achieved more individually ? The former hurler of the year who will finish his career in the top three scorers from play in history or the two backs in their mid twenties generally recognised as being among the best defenders in the game ?

Not having a go at you Gallsman but at the wider use of the word "bottler" in relation to top intercounty hurlers, it drives me mad, i would say the real "bottlers" are the 99% of us who dont have the dedication and drive to hurl intercounty at the top level.

[No real surprise. For all the talent they have, their best players are all underachievers and bottlers individually.]

What was Gavin O'Mahony sent off for in yesterdays game, I am not sure if TG4 showed it or if I just missed it?

TG4 didn't show it as it was just after Cratloe had scored a goal.

It'll be interesting if Killmallock appeal it as he'll miss the next game against Portaferry if they don't. Maybe they'll be confident enough to play it without him..

They'll won't need him for the semi final, but he is very lucky that Kilmallock had the plum draw this year.

Cratloe got the plum draw in the Munster Semi Final

Thurles are the biggest ever underachievers in the club series, so strange why they have bottled it every time, considering the talent and the catchment they have

No real surprise. For all the talent they have, their best players are all underachievers and bottlers individually.

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Lar Corbett - 2 Senior All-Irelands, 5 senior Munster titles, 2 league titles, three All stars and a hurler of the year, 148 points from play in senior championship hurling.


Padraic Maher - 1 senior All ireland, 3 Munster senior titles, 2  Minor All - Irelands, 1 U-21 All Ireland, 3 all stars at the age of 25.


Mickey Cahill - 1 senior All-Ireland, 2 Munster senior titles , 2 minor All- Irelands, 1 u-21 All Ireland, 1 all star at the age of 25.


If the above is an example of "bottlers and underachievers" i would love to be one !