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Title: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on February 05, 2008, 11:01:27 AM
Not sure if theres already a thread on here, but started watching the UFC (Ultimate Fighting Championship) for a year now, what a sport. These guys are in serious condition, "ultimate" athletes to say the least. Seems to be taking over as the no.1 "sport", if you wanna call it that, in America and beyond. Any other followers out there???
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Corporal on February 05, 2008, 01:25:07 PM
Was thinking of starting a thread on this myself Ronan! Big fan of the UFC, throughly enjoyable to watch! Just cant believe that Brock Lesnar got beat in his 1st match by Frank Mir! Was expecting him to kick ass! Ah well there you go! Big fan of Chuck Liddel although he seems to have lost his way abit recently and also like Michael Bisping! They are all top, top athletes!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on February 05, 2008, 02:04:25 PM
Ahh good stuff General, was startin to wonder was i the only man who enjoys seein grown men knock the tribe out of each other and shake hands after!!!Yeah i thought Lesnar was gonna rip the head of Mir, did you see the size of the mans hands. It shows that strikin isnt everything, Mir is unreal on the ground, same can be said for Noguiera who took brutal punishment from Silva but still choked him out.
Chuck Liddell fan myself, probably age has caught up on him but still put on a great show against the "axe murderer".
GSP has to be the best pound for pound at the minute, the guy is class.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on February 05, 2008, 02:24:33 PM
they are all not wise ! the fans aswell as the fighters  :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on February 05, 2008, 04:47:01 PM
Undoubtedly one of the best UFC matches Ive ever seen

Forrest Griffin Vs Stephan Bonner
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac)
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related)
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related)

Both fighters were awarded contracts after this Ultimate Fighter Final.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 05, 2008, 06:46:29 PM
I'm a huge fan and have done a bit of training at home in armagh/tyrone and over here in New Jersey too.

There is a huge scene at home for those of you interested in the local scene - MMA Ireland and UFR promotion are both sources for information.

UFC is a great promotion and have worked well in EU and US to promote MMA with bringing in some great fighters.

I would agree that GSP is one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world today but Lesnar was never going to beat Mir.  In fact I thought they brought him in to expose that size and power will never beat skill and technique.  Frank Mir took a pounding to the face but kept his calm, applied his BJJ and implemented a great take down and heel hook from his back.

NOG against Sylvia was the same, amazing BJJ - text book sweep and choke. 

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bacon on February 05, 2008, 07:05:09 PM
I thought this was something to do with Ulster farmers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on May 26, 2008, 09:17:54 AM
Any of you hardcore fans watch it last night, sum quality knockouts, Silva left Jardine sleepin!!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 26, 2008, 09:30:27 AM
i was left sleeping watching it ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Candyman on May 26, 2008, 09:32:52 AM
I'm a huge fan and have done a bit of training at home in armagh/tyrone and over here in New Jersey too.

There is a huge scene at home for those of you interested in the local scene - MMA Ireland and UFR promotion are both sources for information.

UFC is a great promotion and have worked well in EU and US to promote MMA with bringing in some great fighters.

I would agree that GSP is one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world today but Lesnar was never going to beat Mir.  In fact I thought they brought him in to expose that size and power will never beat skill and technique.  Frank Mir took a pounding to the face but kept his calm, applied his BJJ and implemented a great take down and heel hook from his back.

NOG against Sylvia was the same, amazing BJJ - text book sweep and choke. 


Ye'll never beat the KD kid...  ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 26, 2008, 09:45:32 AM
Undoubtedly one of the best UFC matches Ive ever seen

Forrest Griffin Vs Stephan Bonner
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6k1-8-j8Ac)
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2WJIlOopZA&feature=related)
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sDHpR4XkNg&feature=related)

Both fighters were awarded contracts after this Ultimate Fighter Final.

phew what a scrap...unreal!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on May 26, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
Good to see you joinin the UFC Max, beats talkin bout Derry football all the time ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 26, 2008, 11:17:48 AM
Its getting big very big around antrim and derry.  Usually shows on in the elk every now and again ran by EFR (used to be called UFR) the last show was in lurgan there last week.  www.fighttalk.co.uk is there online forum.

Has anyone seen Kimbo the big black man that used to do the street fights.  He has started the ufc and is cleaning up!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 26, 2008, 01:10:20 PM
Kimbo is not in the UFC

and the 2 fights he has had - let's just say - his opponents weren't up to much
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on May 26, 2008, 02:00:15 PM
Isnt there a place in lurgan that trains mma fighters. I think its based down in the clans gym.

Anybody watch the ultimate fighter series, unreal. The best year was the one with Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. They near came to blows at every training session. Them 2 fellas hated each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DirtyDozen12 on May 26, 2008, 09:31:15 PM
Watching a bit of UFC 84 at the moment and too be honest this hybrid sport if you like in my opinion is nowhere near as entertaining as a good boxing match.  I dont think the MMA or UFC will ever better boxing.  I find it pretty hard to watch, that meaning it can get become pretty gruesome viewing.  I seen one match where a guy tried to take another guy down but landed on his head when they fell and knocked himself out cold.  He was lying on the ground and the other guy on top of him threw the fist right into his jaw while he was unconscious!!  I dont much difference between MMA/UFC or whatever you call it and this brutal street fight, they are nearly bred out of the one........

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaexTfEwZs&feature=related
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 27, 2008, 04:34:48 PM
Isnt there a place in lurgan that trains mma fighters. I think its based down in the clans gym.

Anybody watch the ultimate fighter series, unreal. The best year was the one with Ken Shamrock and Tito Ortiz. They near came to blows at every training session. Them 2 fellas hated each other.

Place in Lurgan is in the clans gm - trained there a few times - guy who was running it then (3 years ago) was John Fox - big guy who bounced at the time in the ashburn.  Good spot.  If you are really serious into training and you live in the north  - look into either Chum Sut in Lisburn (tom Lamont) or the EFR gym with Davey Patterson in Randelstown and now in Belfast I think.

Actually going to see Kimbo slice fight this weekend in the Rock in Newark.  I have not been impressed by him so far and don't think he has what it takes to go to the top in any of the bigger promotions.  He is training now under Bas Rutten so he has to improve - but he is nothing more than a cash cow for Elite who are milking him for all the tickets they can.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: pebble-dasher on May 27, 2008, 08:05:25 PM
training times for davy pattersons efr can be found on www.fighttalk.co.uk

they train at shanes castle between antrim and randalstown,

I think its phonemonal the fitness levels, flexability and explosive strength the fighters in the real UFC have.  The Ultimate fighter series were brilliant,that was deadly when tito ortiz and ken shamrock were the coaches, that series and the liddell and couture one were by far the best. 
Favourite ufc fighter would be liddell simply because he can pack a good punch!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: the colonel on May 28, 2008, 06:04:29 PM
watched ufc 84 the other nite,

do you think the ref should have stopped bj penn fight? thought that if he had got the round break he might have been ok,

to be fair to silva, he said it was gonna be a quick fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 28, 2008, 08:00:11 PM
definitely think the ref was right to stop the fight - sherk was finished  - he knew it, BJ knew and the ref knew it.

Silva did exactly what he had to do, he did what houston alexander did to Jardine - rushed him early, bombarded him with punches and watched the Dean of Mean fall

UFC 84 was a great card - watched it live online over here and was very impressed with some of the new guys
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 02, 2008, 06:05:34 PM
So it looks like Randy is back in the UFC - press conference scheduled in 2 hours.

His opponent is rumoured to be Brock Lesnar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on September 02, 2008, 06:08:03 PM
That is big news - seemed like there would be no reconciliation between him and Dana White.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 02, 2008, 06:41:55 PM
talking about a fight with Lesnar - if he wins that they will bring in Fedor or he has a unification fight with the winner of Mir/ Noguiera

great to see as the HW division was getting boring

Couture is a living legend and I hope he can cope with Lesnar's size and power - if so it will set up the fight everyone wants to see before it is too late - Fedor and Randy!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 02, 2008, 07:02:30 PM
talking about a fight with Lesnar - if he wins that they will bring in Fedor or he has a unification fight with the winner of Mir/ Noguiera

great to see as the HW division was getting boring

Couture is a living legend and I hope he can cope with Lesnar's size and power - if so it will set up the fight everyone wants to see before it is too late - Fedor and Randy!

Saw Couture after he watched Fedor destroy Sylvia. He didn't even sound too keen on taking on Fedor when interviewed afterwards. Think Fedor would be too much for him at this stage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 02, 2008, 10:08:23 PM
is that tim slyvia of the ufc? didn't know fedor has already fought in the ufc ??? and has randy rejoined the ufc?? i much prefer pride but they don't have many good fighters left now. fedor is the best pound for pound mma fighter!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 03, 2008, 01:21:47 PM
Tim Sylvia fights for Affliction / M-1 and Fedor fights for Affliction / M-1. They had a fight a few months ago for the WAMMA Heavyweight title which Fedor killed Tim in like 40 seconds. Andrei Arlovski fights for that company as well

Randy has returned to UFC - as of yesterday

UFC bought Pride last year - then the old PRIDE employees joined up with the guys who owned K-1 to form a new MMA company called DREAM
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 03, 2008, 02:46:51 PM
Tim Sylvia fights for Affliction / M-1 and Fedor fights for Affliction / M-1. They had a fight a few months ago for the WAMMA Heavyweight title which Fedor killed Tim in like 40 seconds. Andrei Arlovski fights for that company as well

Randy has returned to UFC - as of yesterday

UFC bought Pride last year - then the old PRIDE employees joined up with the guys who owned K-1 to form a new MMA company called DREAM

I can't see any of them making any inroads in the market.  The UFC seems to have it tied up and with Randy back hopefully he can help create a fighters union or coalition to make sure these guys are paid what they are worth.

Affliction had a great card but their next card is all the same fighters fighting each other again.  Not sure that will go down that well with the PPV paying fans.
UFC is where its all happening.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 04, 2008, 12:51:25 AM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc whereas fedor only fights for affliction/m-1. that's a tad confusing :D hopefully he'll join the ufc soon!!

i bet no one would dare to face fedor except perhaps brock lesnar??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on September 04, 2008, 01:44:52 PM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc

he doesn't fight for UFC anymore
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 04, 2008, 03:37:51 PM
so tim sylvia fights for affliction/m-1 & ufc

he doesn't fight for UFC anymore

thank God! he was useless! he belongs in Elite XC with Kimbo slice
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on September 04, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
haha damn true!! just seen their encounter over at daily motion. you can tell from body language that tim didn't have a fighting chance, fedor is a bad-ass of a fighter!!

now we are all dying to see "here comes the pain" vs fedor, that would just be the most spectacular encounter ever!!!
Title: Evan Tanner
Post by: full back on September 09, 2008, 01:35:43 PM
Sad news from the UFC

Evan Tanner 1971-2008By Thomas Gerbasi

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do it. It’s hard to identify with me; it’s just something I do.”
---Evan Tanner, 2005

On what will unquestionably be remembered as one of mixed martial arts’ saddest days, former UFC middleweight champion Evan Tanner - beloved by fans for his fighting ability and by friends for his free spirit – has passed away at the age of 37.

Tanner, on a camping trip in the Palo Verde mountain area, was found by an Imperial County Sheriff’s Department Deputy on Monday. The cause of death is not known at this time. He had not answered friends’ text messages since last Wednesday, and was officially reported missing on Friday.

On his personal Spike TV web blog, Tanner discussed the trip and how a failure of equipment could be fatal, but in a subsequent blog, he downplayed such fears, writing, “It seems some MMA websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on guys. It's really common down in southern California to go out to the off road recreation areas in the desert about an hour away from LA and San Diego. So my plan is to go out to the desert, do some camping, ride the motorcycle, and shoot some guns. Sounds like a lot of fun to me. A lot of people do it. This isn't a version of "Into the Wild". I'm not going out into the desert with a pair of shorts and a bowie knife, to try to live off the land. I'm going fully geared up, and I'm planning on having some fun.”

His agent, John Hayner, says that Tanner was excited about the trip and in a good place physically and mentally before his untimely death.

“He was in a good state of mind the last time we spoke,” said Hayner. “Everyone that was around him, and even at the gym he was training at, also said he was in a great state of mind. Living in Oceanside (California), he really liked being on the beach. His house was across from the water, he was in beautiful surroundings.”

If one thing was ever clear about Tanner, it was that he loved life, the outdoors, and adventure.

“He was always planning on going on some sort of adventure,” said Hayner. “And he never needed the finer things or made a fuss about them. He just needed enough for gas, shelter, and training.”

A native of Amarillo, Texas, Tanner worked various jobs as a bouncer, a cable TV contractor, a framer building beach houses, a dishwasher, a baker, a ditch digger, and a slaughterhouse worker before stumbling on to mixed martial arts in 1997.

Over the next 11 years, fighting would be a major part of his life, to the tune of 42 professional bouts, but as he said earlier this year before what would be his final bout against Kendall Grove, he never considered himself a fighter.

“I always thought of myself as the poet, the writer, or the philosopher – I never thought of myself as a fighter,” he chuckled. “But here I am. I always had an idea of the flow of my life, but not exactly what I would be doing day to day. And fighting definitely wasn’t something I thought I’d be doing.”

But he was good at it – very good in fact. Over the course of his career, Tanner (34-8) scored wins over Paul Buentello, Heath Herring, Ikuhisa Minowa, Justin McCully, Elvis Sinosic, Phil Baroni (twice), and Robbie Lawler. His biggest win, however, came at UFC 51 on February 5, 2005, when he stopped David Terrell in the first round to win the UFC middleweight championship.

Tanner would lose the belt to Rich Franklin in his first defense four months later, but the fans never abandoned him, and he returned that admiration, both in person and through his internet blogs.

“I wanted to give something back to the fans and let them know that I’m just a regular guy,” said Tanner in early 2008. “Some of the guys forget that and get caught up in the lights, and I never want to forget that and that I’m one of the lucky ones that got a chance to get out there and do this. There are a lot of great athletes out there, a lot of great fighters that never got the chance. I’m one of the lucky ones that did, so writing the blog and telling life as it is helps me stay grounded and it gives me a way to connect with the fans and give them something back.”

His blogs were more than just fight talk and product advertisements though. Tanner spoke frankly about life and his struggles in and out of the Octagon. And when   
he made his return to the UFC in 2008 after almost two years away, it was a triumph of the human spirit and an inspiration, regardless of whose hand was raised at the end of the fight.

“My thought was that I’m in a position where I’ve done some things and some people look up to me a little bit and maybe something in my story can help inspire them or motivate them to get through some things or do something better,” said Tanner before his return against Yushin Okami at UFC 82 in March. “If that’s the case and it helps anybody else out, then it’s worth me facing the embarrassment.”

He fell short in his final two bouts against Okami and Grove, but there was no keeping him down, and his off-time after the Grove bout was filled with more of his adventures, as well as participation in Harley-Davidson’s 105th anniversary celebration.

Sadly, there will be no more adventures, only memories of Evan Tanner.

“Evan was such a unique individual, and he was okay being an individual,” said Hayner. “He was okay with taking the path less traveled, and he often chose that harder path.”

It was simply who he was. Just read the words he spoke to me before I wished him luck for his fight against Grove in June.

“Everything’s been about the journey,” he said. “I never really set out with goals for fighting; it’s been about the adventure along the way. When you’re on your death bed, it’s those stories, those little adventures that are going to be the things that you remember. It’s not so much getting there, but how you got there.”

And he did it his way.

Leave it to me as I find a way to be
Consider me a satellite, forever orbiting
I knew all the rules, but the rules did not know me
Guaranteed
---Eddie Vedder, “Guaranteed”. The song playing on Evan Tanner’s myspace page.

Rest in Peace, Evan.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 10, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
friggin mad
very sad for the man but he was one of those peaceful warrior poet guys

RIP
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2008, 02:51:30 PM
UFC announce Dublin event for January 17

http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=14869

Dan Henderson vs Rich Franklin
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on October 01, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
Hope its nothing like his Franklin's last fight in Ireland :-\
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RONAN on October 01, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
Rang the 02 arena there and they have been tortured all day about tickets!!!
Yeah agree there Full Back, his last fight was pure dung but havent seen a bad Henderson fight yet so watch this space.......
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 01, 2008, 04:57:24 PM
surprised at this fight for both guys
Franklin moved to LHW because he was getting nowhere in MW and wanted to get a title shot of some description - there is definitely some decent fights for him here at LHW with his next supposed opponent being Chuck not Henderson.
Henderson dropped down from LHW and was supposed to be campaigning at MW - he expressed a desire for a re-match with Anderson Silva for the MW title and now jumps back up to LHW to fight Franklin?

Don't get me wrong - it will be a great fight but I don't understand Henderson's motivation (apart from money).
Is he now going to campaign at two weights? Or is this just a big name fight to appease the fans?

Either way Dublin wins  - should be a good card
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on November 16, 2008, 02:12:17 PM
randy couture was beaten by brock lesnar last night for the heavyweight title.  lesnar was just far too strong for couture. ref stopped the fight after lesnerr floored couture and began to ground and pound him.  he is just an animal and i think he'll be champion for a long time. 

some good fights on the undercard also,  thought aaron riley and jorge gurgel was a very good fight,  riley won on points.

rickey hatton took a break from training and was in the crowd watching it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: corn02 on November 16, 2008, 02:32:09 PM
randy couture was beaten by brock lesnar last night for the heavyweight title.  lesnar was just far too strong for couture. ref stopped the fight after lesnerr floored couture and began to ground and pound him.  he is just an animal and i think he'll be champion for a long time. 

some good fights on the undercard also,  thought aaron riley and jorge gurgel was a very good fight,  riley won on points.

rickey hatton took a break from training and was in the crowd watching it.

Lesnar took him to pieces to be fair. Couture gots next to no offensive during the match.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on November 17, 2008, 03:20:21 PM
Lesnar is f**king huge. The size difference between the fighters suggested it could be one sided & so it proved.
Cant see anyone beating Lesnar for a while yet. The longer he practices the more experienced he will get, making a chance to submit him more unlikely
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on November 17, 2008, 04:02:53 PM
Big Nog will beat him
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 18, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
big nog is the only one out there who can beat him
Mir wouldn't have what it takes now that Lesnar isn't so green
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 01:15:20 AM
horrible leg break last night

I'll post the link to the picture

********************do not look if you are squeamish*******************************

http://i34.tinypic.com/24275ao.jpg
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on December 12, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 04:47:03 PM
yeah - that's exactly what it is  ::)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 12, 2008, 04:57:36 PM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse

2 minutes and one broken arm later and you'd be a believer shiskeysteve
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on December 12, 2008, 06:22:09 PM
horrible leg break last night

I'll post the link to the picture

********************do not look if you are squeamish*******************************

http://i34.tinypic.com/24275ao.jpg

Nasty. I actually thought it was a photoshop at first but it's very real unfortunately.

That was on the show the last night wasn't it? A fighter nearly had his arm ripped off as well on that show when he didn't tap when caught in an armbar. It was bent horribly in the wrong direction and the ref had to stop it as your man wasn't tapping.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 12, 2008, 06:25:51 PM
it was on the event - but it wasn't shown on TV

and yes another fighter had his arm snapped when in an armbar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 12, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
hassaan was stupid for not tapping  - cantwell though was a bit of a p***k afterwards - boasting about breaking someone's arms. Pay some respect at least.
It was a good enough card with some exciting fights.  Saunders was very impressive with his Thai clinch and use of the knees, KOS's knockout was excellent and Nate Loughran showed great heart to take and win the fight on short notice with a lot of weight to cut.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: glens73 on December 12, 2008, 08:48:50 PM
sur thon ufc's alll a load of half naked men rastling around on the ground tryin 2 get a hould of the other man s arse

Maybe you're right - there's an ad at the bottom of this thread for gay ebony dating - are they that desperate for ad revenue? - How many gay black irishmen can there be?

Obviously, you're not right. MMA is a very disciplined sport with UFC having some very competitive fights where unbeaten records don't last long and generally a lot of fights are 50/50 apart from where Anderson Silva is concerned.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mattockranger on January 26, 2009, 12:17:17 PM
Did anyone catch fedor's KO last night on Bravo

affliction day of reckoning!!

Awesome!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 26, 2009, 01:54:27 PM
didn't know what happened to AA at first but he was well caught.
If he had stuck to the boxing he might have won the fight - he was doing well before he tried the flying knee
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: full back on January 26, 2009, 01:59:27 PM
When I watched it the first time I didnt see the punch
Had to watch the replays - tasty punch
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: hardstation on January 27, 2009, 01:08:55 AM
horrible leg break last night

I'll post the link to the picture

********************do not look if you are squeamish*******************************

http://i34.tinypic.com/24275ao.jpg
Just saw this. Holy f**k, that is rotten. In saying that, what a f**king knee block! Imagine some **** went to boot ye and you blocked it like that. You'd be as proud as punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Corporal on January 27, 2009, 08:14:32 AM
Was on Youtube last night and saw the whole (36 secs) Fedor v Tim Sylvia fight. He was the UFC heavyweight champ for a while and Fedor choked him out in 36 secs, what an animal. Would love to see Fedor v Lesnar!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: glens73 on February 01, 2009, 08:11:59 AM
Some performance by GSP against BJ Penn. GSP is awesome and the way he keeps improving each fight is phenomenal, totally dominated Penn, who is possily the most naturally gifted fighter in MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on May 28, 2009, 09:37:19 PM
what about lyoto machida "the new ufc light heavyweight champion". is he now the new bruce lee?:o

really didn't expect the fight to end that easy but apparently if you take up karate you can kick the sh1t out of anybody :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: whiskeysteve on May 29, 2009, 01:31:50 PM
Where can u see highlights?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2009, 05:09:43 PM
So can anyone stop GSP and/or Lesnar?  :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2009, 07:43:55 PM
I can't see anyone from the current pool of HW's even coming close to threatening Lesnar
GSP against Mike Swick is the only real fight out there at WW for GSP though I suspect he will take some time to pack on muscle and move up to MW.  I wouldn't want GSP to face Silva to soon though - feed him some guys first until he is comfortable at the weight and then lets see....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: thejuice on July 13, 2009, 08:44:52 PM
Watching the Mir - Lesnar fight here:

http://www.inquisitr.com/28953/ufc-100-brock-lesnar-vs-frank-mir-results-and-video/
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 08, 2009, 03:16:24 PM
Anyone watching UFC101 tonight?

BJ Penn vs Kenny Florian for the UFC lightweight championship and Anderson Silva Vs. Forrest Griffin is on the card as well.  Should be good!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Eastern_Pride on August 08, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
Just got the ufc ps3 game there it's fantastic is it worth watching ufc then? I watched one where some poor chap had to stay in a steam room for 2 hours to lose weight....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Galwaybhoy on August 09, 2009, 12:51:04 AM
Ya its worth watching.  I wouldn't be a huge fan, I have watched it a bit over the last few years, I was always more of a boxing fan, but it has grown on me so tonight will be the first PPV I stay up to watch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on August 13, 2009, 10:45:00 PM
Did any of ye see Anderson Silva fight against Forrest Griffin, awesome performance....

Penn beat Kenny Florian handy enough..

Showtime show UFC over here, really into it now, Diego Sanchez is probably my favouriite... I see Dana White and Tito Ortis have made up and Titos back in UFC,,, Brock Lesnar is the man to beat at heavyweight...

In UFC 100 that was some knock out by Henderson on Bisping...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on October 01, 2009, 11:56:37 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tyroneman on October 02, 2009, 11:53:46 AM
They need to get fedor into the ufc
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 02, 2009, 01:39:35 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Aye I'm watching it Gabe.  Good enough so far with Rampage's personality dominating the show and making up for the amateurish performances by the fighters and lack of action in the house.
Kimbo comes across as a humble, down to earth guy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SLIGONIAN on October 02, 2009, 02:00:30 PM
Anyone watching TUF 10?
Aye I'm watching it Gabe.  Good enough so far with Rampage's personality dominating the show and making up for the amateurish performances by the fighters and lack of action in the house.
Kimbo comes across as a humble, down to earth guy.

Im watching aswell, just seen 2nd episode last night, Kimbos fight, had serious bother on the ground wrestling couldnt get yer mans 265 pds off him. Might not be the end of Kimbo Slice though.

Did ye hear Rampage has retired and has renegaded on his fight with Rashid to focus on his actng career. Bit of a cop out and im sure he has broken his contract with UFC.

Chuck lidell on dancing with the stars in the states. These lads like the fame.

Fedor wa offered a huge contract to go UFC and dana was sure hed take it, but Fedors team want co promotion revenue and commercial stuff so UFC backed out which is right IMO. Dana reckons fedor doesnt want to fight in UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 09, 2009, 06:18:14 PM
So can anyone stop GSP and/or Lesnar?  :D

fedor ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygLhY2RsgRQ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on November 09, 2009, 06:50:16 PM
Lesnar would dominate Fedor based on Fedor's performance this past weekend.

GSP is a different weight class....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 23, 2010, 10:12:01 PM
UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez at 4am should be a good one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 24, 2010, 12:02:32 AM
Cant wait for it - heading to Applebees shortly with a couple of mates. $2 bud light pints and half prize appetizers. HD 52 inch screen at the table - couldnt beat it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on October 24, 2010, 01:16:13 PM
Lesnar will do well to come back from that bad beating? Velasquez is suppose to get punch harder than any boxer He'll take some beating
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 25, 2010, 01:49:33 PM
Velasquez is the real deal. He was mobile, lots of head movement, used the angles well, clearly out boxed Lesnar and was able to take him down and show great ability to get back up from Brock's take downs.
Before this fight, Cain did not look like a big puncher. He wasn't able to stop Kongo,although he did land a nice punch on Big Nog to finish him.
He looked like he pulverised Brock.

I can see a Mir submitting him in fairness. Cain could just be Brock's kryptonite. This blows the division wide open and sets up a lot of fights.
Carwin has a comeback fight, then Brock, then a rematch. Mir is in the mix, Junior Dos Santos, Roy Nelson, Brendan Schaub dominated Gabe Gonzaga so he has to be included. A lot of talent there and a lot of exciting fights.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 01, 2011, 05:51:35 PM
Watched my first full UFC event last night.

Main event was guff, largely strikes. GSP fully deserving of win.

Randy Couture was well beaten - never stood a chance and was knocked out by a fantastic front kick.

The Feeatherweight Title fight between Aldo and Hominick however was absolutely brilliant. The swelling on Hominick's eye was the size of a tennis ball!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2011, 11:40:12 PM
Was at the show last night - absolutely cracking experience.
Aldo/Hominick was great. Fight of the night was McDonald vs Diaz for me. Place went crazy when he was throwing Diaz around with those suplexes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on May 02, 2011, 08:08:40 PM
Hominick had some lump on his head, fair play to him for fighting on and for the ref for letting it go on. Great fight with Aldo not looking as super human as normal.

Mcdonald is a great prospect, he's a long lad with a very bright future ahead of him.

I get a bit annoyed at people who want GSP to be more exciting or to finish the fight. Shields has been stopped once in 11 years, he is undefeated in 5 years, he ate Dan Henderson's biggest overhand right and kept going. If GSP throws caution to the wind and fights the fans fight then he wont be a champion for too long.

Gabe, glad you like the event, I have made a few now and the atmosphere is unreal. Some amount of fights if you manage to catch them all and for the most part everyone in the arena is there for a good time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 12, 2011, 02:15:22 PM
Not sure if any of you are fans but you can usually catch all the fights the afternoon after the PPV on this website:
UFC 131 last night in Vegas, decent card

http://www.pancrase.org/videos/ (http://www.pancrase.org/videos/)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 27, 2011, 05:43:16 AM
Cracking night of fights tonight - go out of your way to see the main event - craziness
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 06, 2011, 05:06:08 PM
Great card coming up this weekend. Jon Jones from NY, youngest ever UFC Champion. An amazing talent.
Here's an article a mate of mine put together to preview the fight.

http://betting.betfair.ie/specials/ufc-betting-preview-061211.html (http://betting.betfair.ie/specials/ufc-betting-preview-061211.html)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 23, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
ufc 141 countdown lesnar vs overeem

part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2rt36JZsZo

part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooWNNde_oFs
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: paco on December 23, 2011, 12:41:37 PM
Where and when can you watch it?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on December 23, 2011, 03:33:40 PM
It's on the 30th not sure is it on ESPN yet but sure to be plenty of streams about. If Lesnar gets beaten again he may decide to quit UFC especially with the diverticulitis condition he has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JUst retired on December 24, 2011, 06:30:54 AM
Does that condition mean he is going a different road. :D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 02, 2012, 12:42:02 AM
Well Brock Lesnar officially retired from MMA, I reckon he makes an appearance in the next 6 months in WWE against the Undertaker.....

Nate Diaz put on a fantastic fight against Cerrone and the rest of the card was great with 3 spectacular KO's.

www.pancrase.org (http://www.pancrase.org) for anyone who wants to watch the fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ross4life on January 02, 2012, 01:34:59 AM
Well Brock Lesnar officially retired from MMA, I reckon he makes an appearance in the next 6 months in WWE against the Undertaker.....
He didn't look right since his illness (12 inches of his intestines removed) at least he got two big pay packets before the expected retirement. As far as i know he's still under 2/3 yr contract with the UFC so maybe some promotional work before he returns to wrestling.


Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on April 04, 2012, 06:09:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXQLWUQYr6Q&feature=related

Chael Sonnen is the man!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 09, 2012, 12:24:07 AM
Anyone heading to UFC in Sweden?Looks like a decent card.
Heading to Diaz Miller in the NJ in May - cant wait!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 29, 2013, 05:31:46 AM
Well - that's the end for Anderson Silva's career now
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on December 30, 2013, 04:11:03 PM
Well - that's the end for Anderson Silva's career now

Looks like GSP & Anderson Silva are out of the picture. Feel bad for Silva - can't see him make a comeback after that gruesome leg break! Here's hoping for the best for both! :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 16, 2014, 11:56:58 AM
Conor McGregor Fight this Saturday. (Hoping on the Bandwagon)

1. Does anyone know of bars in London showing this?

2. I presume its Pay Per View, can I get it on Sky?

Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: beer baron on July 16, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
Should be easy enough got,it's on tv3 and think it can be got on Sky these days?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on July 16, 2014, 01:08:28 PM
Going myself...going to be carnage. Poor lad doesn't know what he's in for, McGregor looks a man possessed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 16, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
Should be easy enough got,it's on tv3 and think it can be got on Sky these days?

Don't have Sky Sports. I will give O'Neill's a go.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 16, 2014, 09:47:02 PM
McGregor has no easy task ahead. Brandao is a dangerous striker and a whizz on the ground (seldom goes there). He has been up and down in his last few performances and has a point to prove. I'm not sure if he is ready for the Dublin crowd but i'm sure it will play a factor.
The icelandic Dubliner - Gunnar Nelson - should put on a great performance. He is a joy to watch at 170 and is a future champ without a doubt.

Cathal Pendred I am not fully convinced on him yet - his stint on TUF did nothing to prove he can hang with the big boys....

Norman Park - Bushmills man - yes one of those ha - he's a decent enough lad from a great gym but he hasnt KO power and I havent really seen his Judo yet. I think he will get a sour reception in Dublin as his banner and walkout flag are both the red hand.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DoireGael on July 23, 2014, 09:00:35 AM
Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 23, 2014, 09:34:56 AM
Any word on James Gallagher going pro?  How good is he?  Still very young.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on September 27, 2014, 09:15:05 PM
Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?
Nearly time!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 10:36:02 PM
Any word on James Gallagher going pro?  How good is he?  Still very young.

a lot of knowledgeable people feel he's destined for big things.

Conor McGregor vs. Dustin Poirier set for UFC 178..........thoughts?
Nearly time!

Looking forward to this, been a great build up and McGregor has got under his skin, hope i can stay awake after a long day in Croker. the atmosphere looked unreal at the weigh in
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 27, 2014, 10:57:07 PM
Is this McGregor chap as big a w**ker as he seems? Anytime I have seen him on the Late Late etc. he comes across as an absolute bellend.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 11:05:14 PM
dont know personally but its a bit like marmite. you got to hand it to him, this is a money making business and he's on a huge card, the UFC Dublin atmosphere made the powers that be stand up and take note. dolla dolla
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rodney trotter on September 27, 2014, 11:20:36 PM
Is this McGregor chap as big a w**ker as he seems? Anytime I have seen him on the Late Late etc. he comes across as an absolute bellend.

He isn't short on confidence, interview on Setanta recently http://t.co/uCjXSnbJUL
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 27, 2014, 11:23:59 PM
he sounds and looks an awful lot like Tom Court
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:03:11 AM
sits in his seat for 2 mins extra then comes out and wins then basically admits he neeeded it to recover, lol thats bad
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:06:18 AM
sits in his seat for 2 mins extra then comes out and wins then basically admits he neeeded it to recover, lol thats bad

Can't believe I managed to get up. . . that was a hell of a fight though. Please tell me McGregor's next!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:09:01 AM
Good stuff no messing!!! Foggy Dew. . . deadly way to enter a ring!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:11:08 AM
There's the packet racket!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on September 28, 2014, 04:18:08 AM
Jesus!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2014, 04:27:18 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 28, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned

Rigged?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on September 28, 2014, 12:16:23 PM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
UFC follows a storyline and is fixed - it's like wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on September 28, 2014, 12:25:45 PM
Pushing McGregor like f**k, I love his confidence.


The cynic in me tells me that fight was rigged as f**k as someone else previously mentioned
UFC follows a storyline and is fixed - it's like wrestling.


Don't pretend to know a lot about it but pretty sure there is one main difference between UFC and wrestling.....

Mainly the complete battering matches.....

Brutal enough watching at times...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 12:42:00 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 12:55:17 PM
Complete fix
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: J OGorman on September 28, 2014, 01:14:25 PM
Yer man goes down on his knee with a brush of the knuckle to the back of the head....surely not?  :o
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 07:07:21 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

Mc Kenna is out of order constantly slating everyone.

Heres the left hook that Conor dished out before the knock out, this did the damage, shameful stuff as usual from the plastic paddys knocking our own

http://zippy.gfycat.com/EllipticalZealousElkhound.webm
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 07:38:12 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: J OGorman on September 28, 2014, 07:47:19 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

Mc Kenna is out of order constantly slating everyone.

Heres the left hook that Conor dished out before the knock out, this did the damage, shameful stuff as usual from the plastic paddys knocking our own

http://zippy.gfycat.com/EllipticalZealousElkhound.webm

No need to be so precious.  I support any and all representing the country, but that finish has to be questioned.

(And showing a left handed jab with yer man looking pretty unfazed and still light on his feet isn't much proof)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 07:50:53 PM
ye lot sound like that bitter man mc kenna

https://twitter.com/John_Kavanagh

Kavanagh was out of order publishing McKenna's phone number.

as much as I detest Mc kenna and I really really hate the f**ker. I agree with you on that. Kavanagh comes across as a guy whose ego is bigger then Mc gregor's
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on September 28, 2014, 08:21:13 PM
I thought the Cat Zingano fight was a good one she now sets up a world title shot against the beautiful but deadly Ronda Rousey.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 08:46:15 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 08:48:04 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2014, 08:56:14 PM

Is MMA subject to WADA drug testing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: squire_in_navy_slacks on September 28, 2014, 09:01:08 PM

Is MMA subject to WADA drug testing?

Not as yet

http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/8/17/5913709/the-blueprint
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:07:02 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.

God no he's from Athy,  he has opinions but it's never personal.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 28, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all

Yet never makes it personal, you are a precious one. I suppose Dave Hannigan's opinion is all desperation stuff too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on September 28, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Are you related to Mc Kenna Dinny? Because some of the things he has written about Dublin GAA is borderline libellous Its ok to defend something where it's warranted but this guy is a gobshite

And while I think Kavanagh was way out of line posting a private phone number, part of me has no sympathy for him either.

God no he's from Athy,  he has opinions but it's never personal.

It's always personal when it comes to Dublin GAA with him Dinny. You need to take off the Lilly glassses.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Donnellys Hollow on September 28, 2014, 10:59:27 PM
Always amused at how Ewan manages to wind the Dubs up so much. He has written worse about his native county.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 28, 2014, 11:16:26 PM
Razzmatazz, steroids and fan boys. Joke of a sport.

Geezer coaches out in the same gym now thanks to the owner John Kavanagh. Joke of a man eh ?

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/mcgeeney-an-animal-claims-fighter-mcgregor-284111.html

Joke of a post! Then again after your previous vile abuse of McKenna what do expect from a pig but a grunt.

Mc Kenna abuses and slates Dublin footballers, abuses and slates MMA and a fighter from Dublin all on Twitter, and you applaud him ??????????????? this coming from a guy who lives in Brazil, and were is the UFC's next big event were Conor is attending ?? Brazil, desperation stuff from Mc Kenna trying to get his claws in somewhere and desperate stuff from you as you clearly have zero knowledge or involvement in MMA, stick to what you know and its clear its sweet fook all

Yet never makes it personal, you are a precious one. I suppose Dave Hannigan's opinion is all desperation stuff too.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2 (http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2)

Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 29, 2014, 04:23:22 PM
Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.

I hadn't to come across as raving about it - I think what the UFC did to protect their brand and suspend or fire fighters was OTT - just like the NFL. I was simply highlighting the trend across sports in America. All of it is harsh.

Before anyone questions the TKO - have you been punched by a professional fighter behind the ear or anywhere? Poirier has been knocked down in all of his last 3 fights. With small gloves that don't do anything to cushion the blow. At this young age he is already showing the effects of a weak chin that has taken too many big knocks. He got caught with a blow to the head that every man on this board would get knocked down by.  Nonetheless Mcgregor was lucky it had the effect it did. He fought a bit reckless and could have been caught himself. He needs to change his stance and tuck the chin a bit better if he wants to survive against a brutal striker like Aldo. I think the UFC will give him a title shot in Dublin and let him fill croker. They won't match him up against a top-tier wrestler because it will expose him. He will get aldo and Aldo will eat him alive but the UFC will get the biggest gate in their history. McGregor won't care either - he is all about the gold coin not the gold belt and I tip my hat to him - he's a prize fighter at this point in his martial arts journey.

I really enjoyed Zingano's fight. I've never seen anyone throw from a front headlock - that was great.

Great to see Dominick Cruz back - hope he gets his belt after 3 years on the sidelines.

Cowboy Cerrone is just an angry red neck and he welcomed Eddie Alvarez to the UFC. Alvarez is very blown up for his height -he should drop down a weight division and see how he does...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: theskull1 on September 29, 2014, 11:03:16 PM
Looked like his opponent took a fall
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on September 29, 2014, 11:18:41 PM
Don't let Iceman see that. He was raving a few weeks ago about how the UFC is a paragon of virtue compared to the NFL when it comes to dealing with domestic abusers and drug cheats.

Kavanagh publishing the phone number is disgraceful. Some of the abuse McKenna has taken on Twitter today is vile.

McGregor is special but anyone who pretends there's not a whiff of suspicion over that ko is kidding themselves. He needs to tone down the mouth a bit too (I'm aware this is a lot of what the UFC loves about him) as he's won nothing yet. If he gets a crack at Aldo, that's a completely different ballgame.

I hadn't to come across as raving about it - I think what the UFC did to protect their brand and suspend or fire fighters was OTT - just like the NFL. I was simply highlighting the trend across sports in America. All of it is harsh.

Before anyone questions the TKO - have you been punched by a professional fighter behind the ear or anywhere? Poirier has been knocked down in all of his last 3 fights. With small gloves that don't do anything to cushion the blow. At this young age he is already showing the effects of a weak chin that has taken too many big knocks. He got caught with a blow to the head that every man on this board would get knocked down by.  Nonetheless Mcgregor was lucky it had the effect it did. He fought a bit reckless and could have been caught himself. He needs to change his stance and tuck the chin a bit better if he wants to survive against a brutal striker like Aldo. I think the UFC will give him a title shot in Dublin and let him fill croker. They won't match him up against a top-tier wrestler because it will expose him. He will get aldo and Aldo will eat him alive but the UFC will get the biggest gate in their history. McGregor won't care either - he is all about the gold coin not the gold belt and I tip my hat to him - he's a prize fighter at this point in his martial arts journey.

I really enjoyed Zingano's fight. I've never seen anyone throw from a front headlock - that was great.

Great to see Dominick Cruz back - hope he gets his belt after 3 years on the sidelines.

Cowboy Cerrone is just an angry red neck and he welcomed Eddie Alvarez to the UFC. Alvarez is very blown up for his height -he should drop down a weight division and see how he does...

Cruz looked fantastic. Fair play to him after the setbacks.

Would McGregor sell out Croker?! I'd be pretty shocked.

UFC's biggest problem is that Dana is a populist mouthy p***k. He holds a borderline monopoly on big TV deals and that means a lot. UFV is a promotion with contracted fighters. The potential for conflicts of interest is enormous. The sooner MMA moves to a boxing like situation where promoters are distinct from fighters the better.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on September 30, 2014, 04:26:42 PM

Cruz looked fantastic. Fair play to him after the setbacks.

Would McGregor sell out Croker?! I'd be pretty shocked.

UFC's biggest problem is that Dana is a populist mouthy p***k. He holds a borderline monopoly on big TV deals and that means a lot. UFV is a promotion with contracted fighters. The potential for conflicts of interest is enormous. The sooner MMA moves to a boxing like situation where promoters are distinct from fighters the better.

I don't see MMA moving to that model, especially with the players involved at the promotion level. As more and more elite athletes enter the sport you'll see more promotions popping up and existing promotions live Bellator continuing to succeed in the wake of the UFC's success. As much as I love boxing I don't want MMA to move to that model - too much room for corruption.

Croker wouldn't be set up for the full capacity for a fight - the upper tiers would never be opened for such a rowdy crowd but I would say he could attract the bottom stands and field level capacity at the right ticket price and with the right supporting card. All the fighters want to fight there, the UFC would have no bother bringing in a great card. UFC is all about the coin - they have 9000 capacity in the casino's in Vegas. 40,000 - 50,000 in Croke Park - that's some pay day for them.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on October 02, 2014, 11:27:08 PM
I see Bushmill's owm Norman Parke is out of his scheduled fight with Diego Sanchez in Mexico next month with a torn MCL.
Conor McGregor has offered kindly to move up a weight class and take the fight and of course the pay day. I wonder will the UFC give it to him?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on January 15, 2015, 04:19:06 PM
http://www.newstalk.com/Fine-Gael-Senator-seeks-to-ban-vile-UFC-from-coming-to-Dublin (http://www.newstalk.com/Fine-Gael-Senator-seeks-to-ban-vile-UFC-from-coming-to-Dublin)

10:18 Wednesday 14 January 2015
A Fine Gael Senator is seeking to ban the Ultimate Fighting Championship from coming to Dublin, the Herald reports.

Senator Catherine Noone described MMA as a “vile so-called sport”.

Ms Noone stated: "I have written to the Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport seeking his views on allowing this vile so-called sport to be given a platform and an audience here and fully believe that this event should not be licensed.” She also pointed out that New York state has banned the sport.

"I don't believe we should be serving as a platform on which to publicise it both nationally and internationally, and therefore I don't think we should be hosting this event here," she said.

A spokesperson for the Transport, Tourism and Sport told the paper: "The Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport has no role in relation to the licensing of such events. Mixed Martial Arts is not recognised by the Irish Sports Council and consequently does not receive any government funding through the Irish Sports Council."

They said that the matter was an issue for Dublin City Council.

The comments come ahead of McGregor's fight in Boston this weekend. The Dubliner has been guaranteed a world title shot if he beats Dennis Siver at UFC Fight Night 59. “This fight in Boston, if [McGregor] wins, he’s going to fight for the title,” UFC President Dana White said.

A win for McGregor could potentially see a title fight in Dublin, possibly in Croke Park, something the Irish MMA star was hoping would happen.



Personally I find the Seanad far more 'vile' than UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 15, 2015, 04:41:18 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 03:32:25 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on January 16, 2015, 03:45:00 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.

Happened to stumble upon her being interviewed about this by Ryan Tubridy on 2FM and she admitted she couldn't be sure she's ever seen a MMA fight, she saw something one time on TV and it was 'barbaric'.
She was basing her assumptions on an article some very good friend of a journalist who'd written about their experiences at a fight in Vegas or somewhere.

A total numpty.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 16, 2015, 03:45:51 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

I get that absolutely, but his spouting nonsense about being a global star annoys me.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on January 16, 2015, 09:29:51 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 16, 2015, 09:36:28 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Saw that during the week. Ridiculous. I'd happily support legislation against McGregor being a mouthy twat though.
He is a prizefighter gallsman. After the gold coin, not the gold belt. He made more money in his first 4 UFC fights than most veterans have made in 12 fights. He talks a big game, attracts more viewers and collects more coin. I think he understands the game better than anyone else out there at the moment. He has certainly elevated the Irish MMA scene - we've had successful fighters for years but never any national media recognition. Norman Parke has been fighting in the UFC for 3 years and just got a snippet recently on the BBC....

Never heard of him.

The first thing he should do is change his name. It is so....eh John Major.

He needs an attention seeking name like Bolt, but more Irish sounding like Savage Kilwarrior or Groundskeeper Séamus.
He's a Bushmills man - I think he's happy with the name ha good Hun.
He is a decent fella - strong Judo and grappling, great coach behind him who I know personally. He just doesn't get much exposure for two reasons I believe:
His accent is atrocious
He comes across a bit stupid in interviews (which he isn't but he sounds like he is).....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:38:06 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on January 16, 2015, 09:43:57 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 16, 2015, 09:52:17 PM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

I haven't watched much myself.  Mcgregor has perked my interest.  Heard Aldo is the main man between Mcgregor and a world title. Watched a compilation of Aldo knockouts on YouTube.  Christ, one of those knees to the head could do some real damage. High octane stuff alright, though not keen on all the hugging.
I love the sport. It's pure combat. I enjoy standup wars and I enjoy the technical grappling matches on the ground. Aldo is the champ for a reason. I'm not sure McGregor has what it takes to beat him but I don't know if he cares. If he get's his title shot and can put 50,000 bums on seats in Croke Park and get his slice of the pie he'll be a rich man.
There are some great old fights on youtube. Lookup submission of the year and the like and see what you think. There are also a load of great clubs and shows all over Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tiempo on January 17, 2015, 12:04:21 AM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 17, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Don't get UFC myself. The only difference between UFC and dog fighting is these guys are giving their consent. What's most irritating of all though is the masses of people that watch it who have some sort of deranged blood lust to see two guys do serious damage to each other and yet couldn't punch their way through a wet paper bag.
Have you studied any martial arts? Or do enjoy any other combat sports? It's a bit of a sweeping statement....

No I haven't studied any martial arts. I appreciate the technicality, skill and commitment involved within martial arts and no doubt the discipline and respect it provides within that lifestyle too. MMA/UFC to me is a bit more focused on the brutal volient aspect of sport and the desire to "end" someone. The countless reams of online clips of one punch knockouts, knees to the head, blood spattered faces adds to the point I made before. Combat sports in general are not my cup of tea, I used to find boxing passable but its corrupt and so I can't be arsed with it.

Definitley the stereotypical MMA fans as I see it are a turn off. I know the fighers aren't fully responsible for the marketing or the morons who lust for it while being whimps themselves. Certainly the name UFC and the general appearance of the sport is like something from a Mortal Kombat computer game. Decent on a 32-bit Mega Drive, shite in real life when someone's just had their hole burst open with the point of someone's elbow and the like.

The fighters themselves are no doubt signing all sorts of legal waivers with regards to their current and future health, the debate surrounding concussion in American Football, Rugby and Gaelic Games is moving with the times and there is an appetite to put players wellbeing at the forefront of research which you would hope will inform the next series of reforms within games to try and avoid injuries that lead to debilitating health conditions.

Crazy generalisation. The Mega Drive was a 16-bit console.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on January 17, 2015, 01:24:09 AM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 01:37:20 AM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?

Agreed. He's a gobshite who gets on like he's Mayweather with. His shtick is lapped up by the American crowds too. Like all UFC stars save the very, very best, he's completely dependent on Dana - it's the company who makes the really big bucks.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 17, 2015, 01:59:43 AM
Dana's going to end up pretty dependant on McGregor if his popularity keeps growing at this rate.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 12:18:37 PM
Dana's going to end up pretty dependant on McGregor if his popularity keeps growing at this rate.

I don't buy that. For all the unfounded nonsense about "fastest growing sport in the world", PPV rates are down just like in boxing (no idea how Jones-DC went in terms of buys but fight was shit). One loss (I think Aldo and a few others would annihilate him) will kill the novelty stateside.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 03:26:53 PM
UFC are the victims of their own success. They signed that deal with FOX and as a result - there's way too many shows per year now - diluting the "big time" feel of events.

Injuries to their main fighters haven't helped either.

The signing of Phil Brooks (CM Punk) to the organization reeks of desperation.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 17, 2015, 06:01:59 PM
UFC are the victims of their own success. They signed that deal with FOX and as a result - there's way too many shows per year now - diluting the "big time" feel of events.

Injuries to their main fighters haven't helped either.

The signing of Phil Brooks (CM Punk) to the organization reeks of desperation.

Definitely an overload. Jones-DC was originally meant to have a Rousey fight on the undercard. Rousey is more than capable of headlining on her own so they moved her and didn't bother trying to repaved it with another title fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2015, 06:44:12 PM
Anyone else find McGregor to be a mouthy little ****? I mean do the people who think McIlroy is a smug p***k not think McGregor takes it to a level further again?

All part of the show don't you think? Don't think he would be as popular if he wasn't as brash or even as good a fighter if you took it away.  I actually don't mind it when it comes to fighters, surely some need this to get over fear.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 17, 2015, 07:44:45 PM
How does having a big mouth make you a better fighter?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 17, 2015, 09:07:07 PM
MMA athletes are unreal specimens? Yes
Do I admire them? Yes
Is UFC the pinnacle of their Sport? Yes
Do they promote top notch fighters? Yes
Would they rather a premium ticket sales fight than the a fight between the best fighters? Yes
Is ther real fights in UFC? yes 99%
Are they a professional based money making machine? Yes
Is making money on the product the be all/end all? Yes
Has that produced the modern day WWE? Story lines? Charismatic Personalities? YES
Did McGregors last opponent take a fall? Absolutely
Is this because there is a multi-million dolla year and 2 Croker fights in the man? yes
Do I blame Dana White for pursuing this? No
Will I have the Green goggles on tomorrow night watch McGregor? Yes (free stream tho -tight ass like me)

I love watching it but i know the background of the sport, just like the dawning of pro-wrestling in US spawning from Carnival fights the UFC has morphed into something similar where money making on audiences has become the key reason for any fight. This has led to the McGregors of the world getting fast-tracked to the top. Chael Sonnen was never the best fighter but he got the big fights because of his mouth and sold lots of PPVs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BenDover on January 17, 2015, 09:33:14 PM
Save me the googling what time is that at?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 17, 2015, 09:42:13 PM
How does having a big mouth make you a better fighter?

If he wasn't as cocky he wouldn't have the same confidence surely, maybe I'm wrong. Thats the way i see it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on January 17, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
f**k it I like him. You have to take it for what it is, it is all a big show with some right brutal fighting. I enjoy it and if it comes to Dublin I'll go and watch the 'show'. 👊
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 01:42:07 AM
I take it all back, Conor's a nice skin, lets go!!!



Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 02:42:12 AM
Seems like McGregor has huge support in the crowd, even in Vegas. Hopefully he does the job tonight because win or lose everyone wants to see him fight Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 02:50:58 AM
Is it not in Boston?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 02:53:55 AM
That was a strange decision? Americans not happy!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 19, 2015, 02:54:08 AM
And thats why that shit is rigged
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 02:54:42 AM
 ;D
thats the worst i ever seen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 02:58:22 AM
Is it not in Boston?

Ahh my mistake, I was confusing it with what White said about the potential Aldo fight (it would definitely be in Vegas he said).
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 03:13:43 AM
Great to see the Irish lads cheering for our boy! Come on Stormin Norman
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 19, 2015, 03:37:36 AM
Feck this, Norman robbed as well
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 19, 2015, 05:32:33 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on January 19, 2015, 10:05:32 AM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on January 19, 2015, 01:55:26 PM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 19, 2015, 03:14:30 PM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.

That's it. The more hype he generates and the more he plays on his Irishness the more money he gets. Can't blame the lad to be fair and he does look to be in good condition.

In terms of the fight it didn't look as rigged as the last one but who's to say. By all accounts Aldo is a serious operator so the true test of his mouth and all the talk will be in Vegas. I'm actually quite looking forward to it as I think it'll be an intriguing fight... He will be superstar level if he becomes the Champ though which is worrying because he talks an unbelievable amount of shite!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 19, 2015, 04:42:27 PM
Good night of fights.
Cathal Pendred's fight was close. They matched eachother nearly strike for strike and the judges were swayed by the reaction of the crowd. I had it a draw but it could be argued either way.
Norman Parke looked very ordinary. His striking isn't crisp, he doesn't have the power and he isn't top 10 material and never will be. At the weigh-ins he got a very frosty reception from the real Irish in attendance but he probably didn't do himself any favours with his Ulster flag and OWC comments.....
McGregor looked great - he put on a real exhibition and backed up the hype - I'm excited for the title fight and should make it to Vega in May.

Some fights are awkward and ugly. We've seen them all on the street. In the cage is no different -some lad's styles just clash and it isn't nice to watch. It happens in boxing and all combat sports. It happens in GAA too. If you don't like it don't watch and we'll leave your opinions where they belong on the WWE thread
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on January 19, 2015, 04:43:47 PM
well - he backed up his talk tonight - very impressive.

He won't be getting it that easy again
WWF stuff hopping over the cage at the end..embarrassing stuff!
Siver the patsy as expected..
He's a gobsh!te, its a sport for gobsh!tes watched mostly by gobsh!tes. He does seem to be quite good a beating people up though and he is making a lot of money so fair play to him I suppose.

That's it. The more hype he generates and the more he plays on his Irishness the more money he gets. Can't blame the lad to be fair and he does look to be in good condition.

In terms of the fight it didn't look as rigged as the last one but who's to say. By all accounts Aldo is a serious operator so the true test of his mouth and all the talk will be in Vegas. I'm actually quite looking forward to it as I think it'll be an intriguing fight... He will be superstar level if he becomes the Champ though which is worrying because he talks an unbelievable amount of shite!

There are some seriously paranoid ideas on this forum. The way some of ye try to group MMA fans together to make yourselves feel better only makes ye look stupid.

Dominant performance by McGregor. Used his length very well and got out of takedowns effortlessly. Going out to Aldo was a great way of promoting the fight, McGregor is no dummy. He is box office and I certainly will be tuning in for the Aldo fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on January 19, 2015, 05:08:42 PM
Iceman - haven't seen the Pendred fight (and from the reports, I don't think I want to) but none of the three Sherdog scorers gave him so much as a round. I dunno if it's because of some sort of agreement with SBG or because he's McGregor's mate that he keeps getting fights, but he doesn't belong at that level.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on January 19, 2015, 05:37:50 PM
Iceman - haven't seen the Pendred fight (and from the reports, I don't think I want to) but none of the three Sherdog scorers gave him so much as a round. I dunno if it's because of some sort of agreement with SBG or because he's McGregor's mate that he keeps getting fights, but he doesn't belong at that level.
Yeah not sure Gallsman. There is always the need for journeymen on the roster. Pendred is being given every chance to prove himself but falls short every time. He needs a few losses on his record and they'll cut him. In the meantime he will be thrown in with a few new up and comers. He was supposed to lose his fight and the judges messed it up. I think Dana was hoping to get rid of him if you watch the post fight scrum afterwards. These judges are not affiliated with the UFC and mess up regularly with no accountability. I agree he doesn't belong in the UFC on his performances so far. Though he was successful in smaller promotions. He's stuck somewhere in-between.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on January 20, 2015, 09:54:31 AM
Nice story!

http://www.joe.ie/sport/pics-how-the-ufc-and-conor-mcgregor-treated-a-young-irish-cancer-sufferer-like-a-king-in-boston/481802
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on January 20, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
Nice story!

http://www.joe.ie/sport/pics-how-the-ufc-and-conor-mcgregor-treated-a-young-irish-cancer-sufferer-like-a-king-in-boston/481802
Very good.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 20, 2015, 09:03:09 AM
Is there any way to watch the McGregor documentary on RTE player in the north?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2015, 07:29:07 PM
McGregor is well and truly in Aldo's head


Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 31, 2015, 07:49:16 PM
Where did yer man get the Irish jersey without the 3 logo.
I thought they were like hens teeth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 08:12:30 PM
The lads chanting "easy, easy, easy" evidently don't have a clue about MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: andoireabu on March 31, 2015, 09:01:11 PM
Is McGregors idea to annoy Aldo that much that come fight night he comes out with more aggression than brains and McGregor could catch him off guard?  Or is it all a show from both of them to maximise the payday?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 31, 2015, 09:14:31 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.

They will be taking their lead from Mcgregor.  Have never seen a challenger show such a lack of respect for a champion.

The buildup has pretty much reached saturation point and the fight isn't until July
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 31, 2015, 09:16:57 PM
From what I hear (I'm stuck in college), a lot of Irish mma fans let themselves down badly today.

Some of the questions / comments towards Aldo where just ridiculous. My personal favourite was "Jose, where does your forehead begin?" I think they were allowed because Dana White didn't really quite understand what they were saying.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2015, 10:56:46 PM
Just watched the full thing. Mortifying.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2015, 11:48:29 PM
Mostly knackers at the press conference - I don't think a true reflection of Irish MMA in fairness. But it's what the world sees and the stereotypes continue to be fed....
From what I can tell CMG likes to bait his opponents into a war. All his flashy kicks and footwork are to draw the opponent on to him where he can counter and use some great range awareness and technique to put them away. I don't know if Aldo will fall for it but it all makes for must see TV.
I have a mate who went to the press conference in NY and he said Aldo got the same treatment, to the point where Robbie Lawler told the crowd to give the champ some respect.

I think CMG has a legitimate chance to win. He hits harder than most if not all the featherweights. If he can avoid a grappling match and use his range and take advantage of his southpaw stance he can beat Aldo on the feet. Win or lose he's in for a massive pay day tied to the PPV. He will make more money than Aldo and probably the biggest purse in MMA history. It's all about the gold I said before. Not the gold belt but the gold coin....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 12:34:57 AM
Mostly knackers at the press conference - I don't think a true reflection of Irish MMA in fairness. But it's what the world sees and the stereotypes continue to be fed....
From what I can tell CMG likes to bait his opponents into a war. All his flashy kicks and footwork are to draw the opponent on to him where he can counter and use some great range awareness and technique to put them away. I don't know if Aldo will fall for it but it all makes for must see TV.
I have a mate who went to the press conference in NY and he said Aldo got the same treatment, to the point where Robbie Lawler told the crowd to give the champ some respect.

I think CMG has a legitimate chance to win. He hits harder than most if not all the featherweights. If he can avoid a grappling match and use his range and take advantage of his southpaw stance he can beat Aldo on the feet. Win or lose he's in for a massive pay day tied to the PPV. He will make more money than Aldo and probably the biggest purse in MMA history. It's all about the gold I said before. Not the gold belt but the gold coin....

This fight or down the line?! He'll not touch anything like the kind of money Lesnar in his day, Jones or Silva would make. McGregor takes whatever UFC and Dana pay him. He was plucked from (relative) obscurity, so I don't imagine his contract is all that big.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 12:49:16 AM
Or Rousey while I think of it. Jones and her are their two superstars at the minute.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 01:03:47 AM
He made a purse of $180K declared earnings in his fight with Brandao. He made close to a million for the Dennis Siver fight.
He said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight. If it breaks PPV records and I think it will then he should make the biggest money we've seen in MMA in one fight.
Lesnar was 4/5 years ago remember. Jones is pulling $400K per fight.
We'll see...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 07:11:30 AM
He made a purse of $180K declared earnings in his fight with Brandao. He made close to a million for the Dennis Siver fight.
He said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight. If it breaks PPV records and I think it will then he should make the biggest money we've seen in MMA in one fight.
Lesnar was 4/5 years ago remember. Jones is pulling $400K per fight.
We'll see...

Where did you hear he got a million for the Siver fight?! It wasn't even on ppv in the states!! $7m in this fight?! My absolute hole!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 01, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 01, 2015, 02:00:24 PM
Talk about absolutely nailing it. . . this is excellent!

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http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/04/01/conor-mcgregor-burns-down-jose-aldos-house-as-mind-games-continue/

Conor McGregor Burns Down Jose Aldo’s House As Mind Games Continue


CONOR MCGREGOR stepped up his mind games with upcoming opponent Jose Aldo as their UFC press tour rolled into Dublin yesterday.

After McGregor whipped his expectant audience into a frenzy as he took to the stage shared with defending champion Aldo and head of the UFC Dana White, he motioned to someone to ‘press play’.

Knowing Aldo was going to be in Dublin for yesterday’s press conference, the video shown at the press conference revealed McGregor had taken the red eye to Rio late Monday night and burned down Aldo’s house with his wife and daughter still in it.

 
“I will consume you like the affordable biscuit you are,” McGregor said as he jumped on the table, then taking the time to produce a picture of Aldo’s wife and subsequently urinating on it. This was disrupted however by an over eager fan who attempted to get McGregor to urinate on him.

Laughing maniacally at this point to raucous applause and chants, McGregor added “she’s dead Jose, upon your return to your flavela a beaten man, you will sleep alone like some sort of unlovable cucumber that cannot find itself a suitable salad”.

While the murder of Aldo’s wife and child certainly heightens the tension around the fight, many have speculated that McGregor may now be edging the mind games.

“Ha ha, what will he do next? You just don’t know with this guy, he’s all class. He has the warrior spirit and I think this has frightened Aldo and rattled him,” explained UFC expert Josh Pleasant.

McGregor fans in crowd added to the tension as they bellowed chants of ‘your family’s dead’ resulting in Aldo breaking down in tears.
Our sources confirm Aldo will still fight McGregor but has taken several days off from training in order to bury and mourn his family.

“What can I say, Conor is box office baby,” explained Dana White as he shrugged off questions about McGregor’s actions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 01, 2015, 02:05:02 PM
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He said he'll make upwards of $7million for this fight.

The important part
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 03:31:25 PM
That's the best WWN I've seen in ages!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 03:44:47 PM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on April 01, 2015, 03:55:19 PM
McGregor is making himself, Aldo and White a lot money. That makes everyone forgive a lot. Can't say it hasn't worked, I'm certainly looking forward to the fight. If McGregor wins he'll be cemented as one of the biggest stars the UFC has ever seen. Love, love, love fighters with personality, be it boxing, MMA or even wrestling. Doesn't matter if they play the hero or villain.

When you have skill and personality together in one package that's when great fights happen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 04:16:17 PM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself

Well no, it matters a lot. One figure is his income, the rest is ancillary income. Whatever he makes off the back of sponsorships or endorsements, he's made through his mouth and his personality - he doesn't make it "from the fight". Even if using your bizarre logic, I'm not sure how 3 x "conservatively more than $1m" = $7m. When you say he has "loads of other sponsors", these are not sponsors to tune of millions of dollars a year, much like I suspect Reebok is not, although it will obviously still be significant. Nike don't appear to think UFC is the opportunity they once did, having walked away from their Jones contract. You think Dethrone (probably his second most prominent sponsor?) could pay anything resembling the figures you're suggesting?

Despite what Conor McGregor might want you to believe, he does not make anything resembling Floyd Mayweather money. Or Carl Froch money. Or even Amir Khan money. If you believe he is going to get paid $7m for this fight, you are delusional. McGregor has fought nobody even close to Aldo's level. For him to earn $7m when you have Jon Jones (fighting, and beating, everyone they put in front of him) earning half a million or less would be absolute madness.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 05:34:03 PM
Main Card (FOX Sports 1)
Conor McGregor ($85,000 + $85,000 = $170,000) def. Dennis Siver ($39,000)

Where does the rest of his earnings from the fight come from to make up a Million?
those are the declared payouts from a private company. all the fighters will hint at earning much more, especially the "needle movers", Remember Conor has a Reebok sponsorship - one of only 6 UFC fighters to have. He also has a load of other sponsors. When asked about the Aldo fight (where he says he will earn $7million) he said it will be more than triple what he earned for the Siver fight. Not hard to do the Math and conservatively say he earned a million.....
It doesn't matter either way - the man is minted and making a great life for himself

Well no, it matters a lot. One figure is his income, the rest is ancillary income. Whatever he makes off the back of sponsorships or endorsements, he's made through his mouth and his personality - he doesn't make it "from the fight". Even if using your bizarre logic, I'm not sure how 3 x "conservatively more than $1m" = $7m. When you say he has "loads of other sponsors", these are not sponsors to tune of millions of dollars a year, much like I suspect Reebok is not, although it will obviously still be significant. Nike don't appear to think UFC is the opportunity they once did, having walked away from their Jones contract. You think Dethrone (probably his second most prominent sponsor?) could pay anything resembling the figures you're suggesting?

Despite what Conor McGregor might want you to believe, he does not make anything resembling Floyd Mayweather money. Or Carl Froch money. Or even Amir Khan money. If you believe he is going to get paid $7m for this fight, you are delusional. McGregor has fought nobody even close to Aldo's level. For him to earn $7m when you have Jon Jones (fighting, and beating, everyone they put in front of him) earning half a million or less would be absolute madness.

Reebok have an exclusive deal with the UFC. So whether Nike want to or not they are boxed out of sponsoring its fighters in any official capacity.
I don't know why you are getting all twisty because I repeated what CMG said. $7 million for this fight, A third of that for the Siver fight. I was being conservative by saying a million but if it makes you happier $2,333,333....
FMW made $32 million as a purse in his last fight. For the fight with Pacman he'll get a guaranteed purse of $250million with another $50million from the PPV bucket. Thats $300million. McGregor - if he earns $7million is not earning anywhere near $300million or anywhere close to FMW money  - I never suggested he was. Again you're twisting with me for whatever reason you're harboring...

The Mcgreogr Aldo PPV should do 1.3 million buys. McGregor is tied to the PPV buys. If FMW vrs Pacman does 2.4 million buys as expected both fighters pocket $50million each on top of their purses. And the promotions still make money.  I don't think it's unrealistic to assume that McGreogr could make $7million from 1.3 million buys if $50million is available to one half of the fight when the buys are at 2.4 million....

If you want to keep twisting and poking holes in my posts go ahead - knock yourself out - save me the effort :P
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2015, 05:51:25 PM
Again your numbers are all over the shop. The numbers you're quoting for Mayweather are for the fight. He is not going to make $300m.

The reason I'm getting "twisty" about this is because ill considered hyperbole makes a complete mockery of things. McGregor is a star and undeniably charismatic but it's people who accept everything he says as gospel that end up carrying on like morons and screaming abuse at his opponents in press conferences.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CiKe on April 01, 2015, 05:56:11 PM
Again your numbers are all over the shop. The numbers you're quoting for Mayweather are for the fight. He is not going to make $300m.

The reason I'm getting "twisty" about this is because I'll considered hyperbole makes a complete mockery of things. McGregor is a star and undeniably charismatic but it's people who accept everything he says as gospel that end up carrying on like morons and screaming abuse at his opponents in press conferences.

In fairness Iceman hardly comes across like one of those gobshites. You might be guilty of a bit of hyperbole there yourself with those generalizations...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 01, 2015, 06:24:29 PM
I stand corrected. The shared purse for the fight is $300million with a 60:40 split. So FMW makes $180million just from the fight.
McGregor makes $7million he says. I'd take either money but they are not even close to each other.

There is no denying I like McGregor's skill-set. I like how he shakes things up. I like how he has put Irish MMA on the map at long last. I'm not fond of his insults. I have many friends who still compete and used to compete in Irish MMA and CMG crossed the line numerous times with one of them to which I still take offense. I've never met him in person but I have his autograph from one of the lads at SBG where he trains.

I believe your comments stem from other threads where your knickers are still twisted. I'll leave you to untie them in your own time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on April 02, 2015, 11:26:33 PM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 12:04:37 AM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BarryBreensBandage on April 03, 2015, 12:57:35 AM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.

McGregor reminds me of Fergus out of Braveheart.
There's a madness in his eyes, especially off camera - all form and statistics point to Aldo, but it is that look that McGregor sometimes gives that makes me think he has more than a chance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on April 03, 2015, 05:34:13 AM
Aldo is going to wipe the floor with him,  he is way better than anyone McGregor has faced and I think he is going to wipe the floor with McGregor!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bensars on April 03, 2015, 07:20:52 AM
Only recently have taken an interest in this melarkey (mainly due to the Notorious 'documentary' on RTE2), McGregor's defo got a bit of the razzmatazz about him & looks like has the skills to pay the bills, but is Aldo a big step up? I see he is 4/6 fav & mcgregor 6/5, is McGregor going to geta Ricky Hatton / Prince Naseem spanking from a proper World Champion?

The media day in Dublin was a bit mental, but funny.

Aldo is unbeaten in ten years, is the only featherweight champion in UFC history and kicks like an absolute mule. He's beaten every other contender in the division. McGregor has fought nobody that comes remotely close to his level. He can strike and has knockout power in both his fists and his legs and is a black belt in jiu jitsu. McGregor has range and probably speed on him. Very, very difficult to call.

McGregor reminds me of Fergus out of Braveheart.
There's a madness in his eyes, especially off camera - all form and statistics point to Aldo, but it is that look that McGregor sometimes gives that makes me think he has more than a chance.

You do realise that one of them is an actor and the other..... .... Oh wait !....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 08:22:27 AM
McGregor is undeniably incredibly talented and has been very, very impressive to date. Never mind Aldo though, none of the guys McGregor has fought to date are on a level that approaches that of guys Aldo has already beaten.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on April 03, 2015, 08:33:39 AM
Aldo for me, I think a lot of people are caught up in the hype. The Prince Naseem comparison was a good one in boxing terms, Barrera the proven master wiped the floor of him and I expect this to pan out something similar. I'll be having some 4/6 that is available on Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on April 03, 2015, 08:58:29 AM
I just hope it's a close fight. Will look like a dick if he gets knocked out early on. I love the trash talkers and he is the ultimate trash talker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 03, 2015, 10:40:29 AM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CiKe on April 03, 2015, 11:40:52 AM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.

Disagree. Naz was not an exceptional boxer in the standard sense. He was exceptionally unorthodox with excellent power who when faced with an exceptional boxer got schooled.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: oakleaflad on April 03, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Naz was an exceptional boxer who had some huge wins though. He lost his biggest fight against an all time great, first ballot hall of famer. His brashness was backed up. McGregor doesn't have the record yet to back up his mouth.

Disagree. Naz was not an exceptional boxer in the standard sense. He was exceptionally unorthodox with excellent power who when faced with an exceptional boxer got schooled.
Naz is actually a Hall of Famer now himself, was inducted at the end of last year.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rrhf on April 03, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
I thought this thread was about mc geeneys armagh training.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 27, 2015, 09:06:21 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 28, 2015, 04:27:19 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
He needs to be stripped of the title and sidelined for a year to clean himself up. what a waste of talent.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 28, 2015, 04:45:55 PM
Jon Jones allegedly the perpetrator of a hit and run in Albuquerque, the victim of which was pregnant. Marijuana subsequently found in the car. Could be the end for him.
He needs to be stripped of the title and sidelined for a year to clean himself up. what a waste of talent.

A big test of just how committed the UFC is to improving its image. They've still yet to make any announcement about the fight or the event (three and a half weeks away).

Given the felony charge and fact he left the scene, he'll do very, very well to escape jail.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 28, 2015, 04:54:54 PM
It seems he jumped a light and cause two other vehicles to collide. I don't believe he collided with a vehicle? At least it isn't clear from the account online.
I'd imagine the lawyers will find some technicality or just pay the girl off....

Jones has really turned in to the bad guy but he'll throw his life away like a young Mike Tyson if he keeps going the way he is...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 28, 2015, 11:17:44 PM
The accusation is that he ran the red light, struck the car with the pregnant lady in it which led to a collision with a this car and then left the scene on foot, going back briefly to pick up some cash.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 29, 2015, 12:20:27 AM
The accusation is that he ran the red light, struck the car with the pregnant lady in it which led to a collision with a this car and then left the scene on foot, going back briefly to pick up some cash.
I see online he didn't offer a plea. So technically he is innocent until proven guilty two months from now. Leaving him to compere in a few weeks, make his money and then deal with it all then.
The UFC have taken a similar stance before and allowed fighters to compete while bonded.

The lad seriously needs help. I love to watch him fight. I'm a fan but he is throwing it all away. He want to NM for a cleaner life supposedly. He has a couple of kids like he'd want to wise up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2015, 04:52:41 AM
JBJ suspended indefinitely and stripped of the title.

Dan Cormier vs Anthony Johnson for the title at UFC 187
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 07:05:04 AM
JBJ suspended indefinitely and stripped of the title.

Dan Cormier vs Anthony Johnson for the title at UFC 187

Fair play. Genuinely didn't think their have the balls to do it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 29, 2015, 06:15:10 PM
he lost his Reebok deal as well
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 29, 2015, 09:34:54 PM
definitely the right call and a bold move by the UFC which I didnt expect them to have the balls to do given the money his next fight would have generated....

hope he gets help and comes back stronger - he is one of the most athletically gifted fighters I've ever seen and deserves to come back - would be a waste if he goes to jail, becomes muslim, gets a face tattoo and appears in the hangover part 6
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 29, 2015, 09:41:28 PM
definitely the right call and a bold move by the UFC which I didnt expect them to have the balls to do given the money his next fight would have generated....

hope he gets help and comes back stronger - he is one of the most athletically gifted fighters I've ever seen and deserves to come back - would be a waste if he goes to jail, becomes muslim, gets a face tattoo and appears in the hangover part 6

I know what you're getting at but what does he "deserve"? Right now he deserves absolutely nothing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 03:28:13 PM
The heavweight strap changed hands at the weekend. Doesn't happen too often. If you get a chance try to watch Cain Velasquez and Fabricio Verdum go toe to toe for 3 rounds.
Also on the undercard a great scrap between Yair Rodriguez and Charles Rosa. It would make a new fan of the sport out of anyone!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 03:45:46 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Technically you can't knee anyone to the face while 3 of their limbs are touching the ground..... Knees to the face, like in thai boxing are only legal while standing up.
Its the ultimate test, the ultimate sport AZ. One man versus one man, under controlled conditions, to see who is the best.
Combat sports are not for everyone....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on June 15, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
That's alright then. I can only knee you in the face if I hold your head down and you are on your feet :)

I don't think it's the ultimate sport. I think it's basically street fighting with a bit of glamour. Boxing is, to me, far cleaner and more like a sport.

What's the actual rules re striking areas etc? Can you kick a lad in the balls? Can you strike a lad's neck, or his throat?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 15, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
That's alright then. I can only knee you in the face if I hold your head down and you are on your feet :)

I don't think it's the ultimate sport. I think it's basically street fighting with a bit of glamour. Boxing is, to me, far cleaner and more like a sport.

What's the actual rules re striking areas etc? Can you kick a lad in the balls? Can you strike a lad's neck, or his throat?
No strikes to the groin, the throat, no eye gouging, no fish hooking, no downward elbows, no head butting, no biting.

Boxing is a great sport - but it only determines who is the best using only their hands. Thai boxing is a great sport but it only determines who is the best using hands, legs, elbows and knees. Grappling and Olympic wrestling is a great sport but it only determines who is the best grappler. MMA is all of these and more....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on June 15, 2015, 05:36:14 PM
Lads I've tried to watch some of this, but I genuinely can't stomach it as a sport. When two lads are rolling on the ground trying to elbow each other in the face, or knee a lad in the jaw, it just looks like a scrap outside a pub at 2am.

I understand the technical elements, but how can such a blood sport be classified as a sport really?
Technically you can't knee anyone to the face while 3 of their limbs are touching the ground..... Knees to the face, like in thai boxing are only legal while standing up.
Its the ultimate test, the ultimate sport AZ. One man versus one man, under controlled conditions, to see who is the best.
Combat sports are not for everyone....

Em Iceman...... :D

Wasn't your recent objection to sodomy singularly on the grounds that it could do damage?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: CitySlicker11 on June 15, 2015, 10:28:41 PM
Have you any links for the fights on Saturday past?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 16, 2015, 01:46:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR7sUdhReE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTR7sUdhReE)
thats the Rodriguez Rosa full fight. Some other highlights on the side. Google would be your best bet for the rest lad. I only had that one as I sent it to my Da.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 23, 2015, 08:54:23 PM
Aldo/McGregor could be off - Aldo fractured a rib this morning in practice
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 24, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
Aldo/McGregor could be off - Aldo fractured a rib this morning in practice

Few different scenarios here Gabe:

Aldo is not hurt and will fight and wants CMG to focus on his ribs - thus drawing him into something Aldo is drilling to defend. Make him think you're weak when you're strong.

The gate is too large and the blow-back too severe for Dana to take CMG off of the card. If he gives him an interim title shot CMG wont care who it is - he gets paid win or lose and I think the gold coin is more his concern. But I think Dana doesnt want CMG to lose - so feeding him someone like Max Halloway who is on a winning streak might be an option. Edgar would run through CMG, as would Mendes. I think Dana doesn't risk a wrestler...

either way the irish get to see their man - and 3 other irish guys on the card, Dana saves face and CMG gets paid.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 24, 2015, 07:02:17 PM
McGregor already dominated Holloway with one leg. Making that fight again would be outrageous.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on June 25, 2015, 04:23:18 AM
Looks like the fight is going ahead. If Aldo can't make it though is McGregor vs Mendes for the interim belt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 05:04:41 AM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 08:53:59 AM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?

Disagree - McGregor's mouth has been too big about how he's the best and ready for any style. If he loses, massive setback for him and will have to work his way back, without the helping hand he got this time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on June 25, 2015, 09:28:26 AM
Fight is on.

Not a bad publicity stunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Mikasa on June 25, 2015, 09:30:31 AM
UFC seems to be getting much bigger in not only Ireland but across the UK. Great build up despite some cringe moments.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 09:45:48 AM
Fight is on.

Not a bad publicity stunt.

Hopefully that's all it is. Mendes would still be a great fight for McGregor but I'm not sure how many people would still travel if they knew in advance that was the fight they were going to get.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 04:36:58 PM
yeah I heard from my mate who writes for the Indo that Mendes had flown to Vegas.
CMG gets paid either way. If Mendes wins which I think he will - CMG can talk his way out of it - wasn't prepared for a wrestler.....etc etc
Wonder what happened to Frankie.... I'd say CMG Mendes now and Aldo Frankie later? Then unification in NY?

Disagree - McGregor's mouth has been too big about how he's the best and ready for any style. If he loses, massive setback for him and will have to work his way back, without the helping hand he got this time.

Thats fair but I still think if the Mendes fight happens and he loses he can take less of an impact because he didnt have a full camp for a wrestler...

Looks like the fight with aldo is still on. If Aldo is hurt he is making a big mistake. If he is playing possum CMG might get baited....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 06:24:24 PM
Not that this should in anyway be the mindset, but if UFC want to protect him if Aldo doesn't happen, they should have him take a Lightweight fight rather than Mendes at feather. If Mendes got him on the ground he'd be in big trouble. Wouldn't even have to be a top lightweight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 25, 2015, 10:58:27 PM
Not that this should in anyway be the mindset, but if UFC want to protect him if Aldo doesn't happen, they should have him take a Lightweight fight rather than Mendes at feather. If Mendes got him on the ground he'd be in big trouble. Wouldn't even have to be a top lightweight.
I was annoyed at Joe Duffy stepping up to fight him. I thought/hoped the UFC wouldn't play that card. Duffy is very marketable at LW. CMG should stay well away from any domestic fights.... though I'd like to see Joe Duffy destroy Norman Parke...

Never met Duffy, we was only starting when I left. I met Parke when he was still a cub - real talent and not a bad fella but just as moronic then as he is today. I want rid of him just be association to the North or Ireland - he's an embarrassment when he gets on the Mic!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 25, 2015, 11:37:28 PM
I'm not a big fan of Parke's either because of the mouth but I like the way he keeps very active and appears willing to fight anyone.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 26, 2015, 01:59:02 AM
Too much smoke for there not to be some injury. Hopefully it softens up Aldo. For all his mouthing there's no question I want McGregor to win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on June 26, 2015, 06:13:15 AM
I know I am a dinosaur but I love boxing and loathe this UFC shite, boxing has been killed by promoters and the mob but I will never warm to this putrid barbarism called UFC.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on June 26, 2015, 05:40:07 PM
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/26/katie-taylor-to-coach-conor-macgregor-on-how-to-win-fights-and-shut-up-about-it/ (http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/26/katie-taylor-to-coach-conor-macgregor-on-how-to-win-fights-and-shut-up-about-it/)

OLYMPIC gold medalist Katie Taylor has become the latest member of “The Notorious” Conor McGregor’s backroom staff, where she will train the UFC fighter on how to win fights and shut up about it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 01, 2015, 01:41:37 AM
Aldo definitely out. McGregor vs Mendes it is
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on July 01, 2015, 02:41:54 PM
I'm heading to Vegas myself with a friend, wouldn't be the biggest follower of UFC, but funny up until the announcement this morning we were both about to buy tickets today, cheapest being about $500.

What's the story with this Mendes fella then? Will this fight be as entertaining, and how's McGregor's chances now? I've heard Aldo has beat this guy twice..

Don't think I'll bother with tickets now anyway!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
Arnie love McGregor anyways: http://www.the42.ie/arnie-conor-mcgregor-fan-2189045-Jun2015/

Arnie can do little wrong in my eyes (just watch Running Man ffs) so it must be true.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 01, 2015, 02:57:19 PM
Mendes is the real deal.  Elite wrestler who can takedown anybody. He has power in both hands and is a good all round fighter. Conor towers over him and if he focuses on boxing and doesn't kick too much he has a good shot at beating him. It should be an exciting fight and the card and atmosphere alone will be worth the ticket price. Theres nothing like a UFC event outside of Armagh in Croke Park. I've been to loads of sporting events and I love watching the UFC live. It will mostly be Irish, craic will be mighty and the noise will be unreal.

2nd to last fight with Robbie Lawler and Rory McDonald will be epic. a 15 min war.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 01, 2015, 11:13:09 PM
Longer no? Title fights are 5 round affairs
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:19:15 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 01, 2015, 11:28:31 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 01, 2015, 11:31:28 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?

dont pretend to know much about UFC but when you declare your injured......then report your ok and fit to fight......and then pull out again......
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on July 01, 2015, 11:51:19 PM
Aldo injury legit or did he crack?

Are you kidding?

dont pretend to know much about UFC but when you declare your injured......then report your ok and fit to fight......and then pull out again......

Aldo had to fight for his breakfast as a kid. He's also done the more extreme version of the sport and excelled.

The idea that A) he's afraid is absurd and b) that he'd turn down that amount of money because he'd be afraid to step into the ring is even more ridiculous. Its absolutely absurd that people think he'd afraid of Mc Gregor when you look at who he's been in against.

I've no doubts it's genuine. Boxers get injured all the time and no questions asked. Mc Gregor's game plan completely changes. If Mendes gets him on the floor it could get very interesting. mc gregor will go for an early knockout because the longer it goes the more I fancy Mendes.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 02, 2015, 05:33:40 AM
Rumours the other week that he pulled out as he was going to fail his drug test! Wouldnt be surprised.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 10:08:11 AM
I really really hope that McGregor is hammered and disappears from view and all his 'fans' disappear with him.
I have no problem with UFC and would love if some of the other Irish lads can challenge and make a name for themselves but i really cant stand McGregor and the game he is playing ( very well it has to be said) .
 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 10:26:27 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 11:49:17 AM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on July 02, 2015, 12:07:41 PM
This is the 5th Title fight Aldo has canceled or ducked out off, also I'm pretty sure he was cleared by doctors to fight too I don't know whats going on but I don't think its all as it seems.

Cynic in me reckons UFC set this fight up to fall over so they get the big draw of Mcgregor Mendes (off the back of ALdo PR) and then Mcgregopr Aldo anyway at a later date
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 12:19:12 PM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
What has McGregor done to even be mentioned in the same breath as Ali or Mayweather? Just because some other sportsmen acted like c***ts doesn't excuse McGregor to behave like a ****, entrainment or not. And ill certainly not respect him for it. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 01:25:06 PM
McGregor is a smart, self promoting businessman. I don't like his fake persona but it sells and it's all about the money and PPV in that game. He has made a name for himself and has to be respected either way
I said he is playing the game well but i dont have to respect him, the lack of respect he shows opponents is shocking considering how little he himself has achieved to date.

Did Ali show respect to Frazier? Mayweather to anyone? They are in the business of entertainment. I can see past the fascade and take him for what he is, an exceptional athlete.
What has McGregor done to even be mentioned in the same breath as Ali or Mayweather? Just because some other sportsmen acted like c***ts doesn't excuse McGregor to behave like a ****, entrainment or not. And ill certainly not respect him for it.

He can behave how he sees fit to and put arses on seats and sell PPV, just like Mayweather did and Ali being the two most recognisable mouth pieces. It's not a comparison on their sporting prowess. I don't like his persona as i've said but I can see past it and if it's making him millions then fair play and feck the begruders (and there are plenty of them in Ireland)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ludermor on July 02, 2015, 02:10:43 PM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 02, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!

UFC is heavily influenced by pro wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 02, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
McGregor has acted like a tube (maybe he is a tube in real life, maybe a sweetheart, I wouldn't have a notion) to help promote the fight. But, his complete lack of respect for Aldo was very ott at times. But its all about the money, right?? the money baby, loads a money ! em em, smell that lovely money. Regarding the comparison with Ali. Ali was witty were McGregor is embarrassing.

I enjoyed thejournal.ie the other day saying Aldo's injury was 'merely bruised ribs'...Id say the journalist has never had a knee or foot to the rig cage.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 02, 2015, 03:08:37 PM
Ali might have been witty but he was a nasty piece of work too.

Also Aldo hasn't exactly been too complementary (understandably maybe) about Ireland or the Irish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 02, 2015, 03:57:30 PM
Ali might have been witty but he was a nasty piece of work too.

Also Aldo hasn't exactly been too complementary (understandably maybe) about Ireland or the Irish.

opinion mostly based on McGregor, his drunken entourage and facebook warriors ! Wouldn't blame the man
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 02, 2015, 04:50:39 PM
McGregor in front of the camera is a persona. An act to draw attention, good or bad, to get people to buy PPVs and attend fights live. He is a prizefighter - all about the gold and he has gathering a tremendous amount of it in a very short period of time. He genuinely is not like that in person. He's always had a mouth when it came to other fighters but he is very civil in person.
I personally enjoy it all. I cringe sometimes at what he says but so far he has backed it all up.  There's no denying he is an exceptional athlete who is committed 100% to his trade - I tip my hat to any athlete for their dedication.
On the world stage he has raised the profile of Ireland and Irish MMA in particular.

Part of my theory on a lot of the hated for McGregor at home in Ireland is typical Irish begrudgery. Like Sean Quinn was a rogue and a cheat when he had millions he was a victim who people were raising money for when he was on his knees.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:32:02 AM
I think you'll either loathe him for his this persona he puts on but people actually believe that is the way he normally is which is complete rubbish. It's a mask to make money and PPV sales. Irish people are general probably aren't comfortable and far prefer an introverted personality or someone humble like Katie Taylor.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 08:39:05 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wrong with a wee bit of humility.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 08:43:39 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: MoChara on July 03, 2015, 09:00:05 AM
You're right , he can behave how he sees fit but that doesn't mean i have to respect him and it doesn't mean im a begrudger if i don't respect him. In this particular case there are far more bandwagon jumping gobshites who never seen a UFC fight before him and haven't a clue about the sport or the fighters than there are begrudgers.
And while you may be able to see past his persona there are plenty of these gobshites who think this is who he is and what the UFC is. Its not the f**king WWF/WWE!

This is exactly what hes there to do, bring people in that don't normally watch UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:01:22 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
I wouldn't disagree with you there, and the very fact McGregor has been fast tracked shows that he is right to be mouthing as publicity stunts, some cringe worthy and more akin to wrestling but effective brining a new audience nonetheless. It would however be easier for a woman to get to their respective boxing weight than a man in his UFC equivalent - Obviously McGregor isn't at the top, yet but he is a supreme athlete in a growing sport/business and the UFC and Dana have struck gold with him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:09:17 AM
I wouldn't disagree with you there, and the very fact McGregor has been fast tracked shows that he is right to be mouthing as publicity stunts, some cringe worthy and more akin to wrestling but effective brining a new audience nonetheless. It would however be easier for a woman to get to their respective boxing weight than a man in his UFC equivalent - Obviously McGregor isn't at the top, yet but he is a supreme athlete in a growing sport/business and the UFC and Dana have struck gold with him.

True.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens if he loses. A lot of people aren't on the bandwagon yet and if Dana continues to push him after a loss in his first big fight and treat him like the golden goose ahead of more deserving fighters there'll be uproar.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 09:19:09 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

It was a comparison on personality traits more than anything, not sure if there is much of a market for Women's professional boxing anyway. I actually think boxing could learn a thing or two from UFC in promotion and but the corrpution and multiple organisations makes it impossible to make proper inroads. The UFC were the big winner in the Mayweather v Pacman fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 09:26:10 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

What, precisely, is your point? You say "only" at the top. Makes her life's work redundant, does it? Henry Shefflin, the Gooch, Bernard Brogan etc are all "only" amateurs too I take it, despite being amongst the country's finest sportsmen?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 09:57:00 AM
I think that's part of it, but KT is a five time world champion and an Olympic champion to boot. McGregor has been handpicked by Dana and parachuted into a title fight before his turn, yet acts as if he's already the champion. Nothing wing with a wee bit of humility.

And the otherside of the coin is women's boxing is poor and it would be much easier to get to the top of your weight class than the top of the UFC weight class. In my opinion of course. Again nothing wrong with humility but it doesn't sell.

It's all relative. You say women's boxing is poor, but KT is at the very top of it and had worked her arse off just as much and possibly more than McGregor to get to where she is in her sport. She had earned the respect she doesn't demand. McGregor demands respect and recognition that he has not yet earned. Like yourself, that's also just my opinion.

There's plenty of shite MMA too by the way. Much of it UFC.

KT is only at the top of amateur boxing.

What, precisely, is your point? You say "only" at the top. Makes her life's work redundant, does it? Henry Shefflin, the Gooch, Bernard Brogan etc are all "only" amateurs too I take it, despite being amongst the country's finest sportsmen?

Taylor is at the top of a section of her sport.  Shefflin, Gooch and Brogan are/were at the top of their sports full stop. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 10:31:05 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 03, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 03, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.

I'm the same, and I think that would be a very brave assumption - even in the men's game, some amateurs are simply *that* good. Look at Lomachenko as an example.

Anyway, back on track. I think McGregor's a c**k and he should distance himself from the morons who turned up at the press conference in the convention centre but all the best to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 03, 2015, 11:08:31 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?

Very little, but I would imagine its a cut above amateur boxing.

I'm the same, and I think that would be a very brave assumption.

Ironically turning professional would be largely fruitless for the vast majority of women boxers. Contrast that to the UFC were Ronda Rousey, Meisha Tate and the likes are up there with the most recognisable faces in any women's sport. How Katie was a big reason why Women's boxing was accepted into the Olympics and definitely changed the perception of the sport but would she gain much from turning pro? Absolutely not in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on July 06, 2015, 09:16:12 AM
Are many going to watch McGregor Mendes? Be interesting to see viewing figures.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 11, 2015, 10:46:29 AM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 11, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
What time do we reckon McGregor will be on tonight lads?? Planning on getting up for it rather than staying up!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2015, 11:47:38 PM
What time do we reckon McGregor will be on tonight lads?? Planning on getting up for it rather than staying up!
Have heard from 4am onwards.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on July 11, 2015, 11:48:32 PM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
I thought the same he looked brutal , very thin in his face
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 12:26:49 AM

Is McGregor struggling with the weight?  He looks very gaunt and drained over the last week
I thought the same he looked brutal , very thin in his face

He's looked bad at the weigh in the last couple of fights. The cut to 145 must be awful for him. Don't think there's any hope of them letting him go to LW for a while so looks like he'll have to keep it up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 12:35:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on July 12, 2015, 12:46:13 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 12, 2015, 04:15:52 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.

I think it's class and so quickly recognizable and that's coming from a nordie prod.

Sitting in a bar in Fresno, 40 odd miles from where Mendes is from. Outnumbered to say the least!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Subbie on July 12, 2015, 05:26:09 AM
The Irish support in LV is something else so Dana White is gonna milk this cash cow till the tit is dry.
Thousand of Irish from the cities in the states there as well as the ones who travelled from home.
On another note Irish fans need a new song or anthem other than the ole ole ole getting old that one.

I think it's class and so quickly recognizable and that's coming from a nordie prod.

Sitting in a bar in Fresno, 40 odd miles from where Mendes is from. Outnumbered to say the least!
Like a taig at a bonefire then 😉😉😉😉😉
Enjoy!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 12, 2015, 05:51:46 AM
On first viewing I thought Dean had stopped the fight too early - considering there were only 3 seconds left but after seeing the replay Mendes lights were out and he was turtling.

Fair play to him - he backed up the talking with a huge performance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:52:26 AM
Taylor's sport is amateur boxing. How much do you actually know about women's professional boxing?
Amateur boxing is like pitch and putt and professional boxing is golf.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 12, 2015, 07:54:10 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 08:34:26 AM
On first viewing I thought Dean had stopped the fight too early - considering there were only 3 seconds left but after seeing the replay Mendes lights were out and he was turtling.

Fair play to him - he backed up the talking with a huge performance.

I think it was early. Mendes knew he had to get through only a few seconds but was a seriously ballsy display from McGregor after taking so many of those elbows.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on July 12, 2015, 09:29:55 AM
Anywhere online I can see the fight this morning?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 09:41:02 AM
Iceman or Gab or someone who really understands this - was McGregor playing possum the whole time on the ground, happy to take the shots, while waiting for Mendes to transition to a hold knowing that was his chance to escape? Also, when Mendes went for it, he had him by the neck for the choke, he looked to have it locked in. When he went to wrap the legs was it poor execution or was it skill by McGregor to escape?

I don't like him but that was great to watch and he took a fair hammering and came out the far side. Still think Dean should have left it the three seconds!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 12, 2015, 09:44:59 AM
It was a nonsense stoppage. Your lights can't be out and turtling. If someone puts you out cold you aren't on your knees protecting your head. Could have ran down the 3 seconds easily but McGregor win was pre - ordained.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 12, 2015, 09:49:17 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!

Have a look at the pics from the Robbie Lawler/Rory Macdonald fight, or Almeida's KO on Brad Pickett, its no where near the fakeness of wrestling!
Its was a tough call for the ref on whether to stop it or not, he might not have known there was only 3 seconds to go? Maybey he thought there 10 seconds to go or so, big difference in that when someone is getting punch after punch! I dont think McGregor was gona stop hitting Mendes!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 10:02:52 AM
The Lawler-McDonald fight was brutal. McDonald gassed at just the wrong time after he had him hurt with the head kicks. Was surprised at the end as after he'd taken such a battering to the face, it looked like, and I'm not saying this in a critical sense as it would be perfectly understandable, he decided to quit?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 12, 2015, 11:54:38 AM
I can't believe so many people are duped by this UFC sham.
It's a rip off of WWE and Conor McGregor is Sheamus!
That's very unfair to WWE and Sheamus.

Wrestling is real.

This UFC shit is a fooking pantomime.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 12, 2015, 01:32:30 PM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 12, 2015, 02:31:27 PM
Anywhere online I can see the fight this morning?
The Benchwarmers page on Facebook have the full fight video posted up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 03:39:06 PM
Anywhere online I can see the fight this morning?
The Benchwarmers page on Facebook have the full fight video posted up.

its sh!t quality though - the video skips and loses about 20seconds a few different times. You miss the shot that opened McGregor above the eye and you miss the escape from both holds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 12, 2015, 05:11:26 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.

Dana and the Fertittas call the shots. Always.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bridgegael on July 12, 2015, 05:19:03 PM
would he fill croke park??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:26:23 PM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on July 12, 2015, 05:49:21 PM
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/recent/ (http://www.mma-core.com/videos/recent/)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 12, 2015, 05:52:06 PM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though

I think that's bullshit. He'd sell it out, but 410,000 people here want to go and see him? Rubbish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laceer on July 13, 2015, 12:17:46 AM
Fair play to McGregor. Backing up his talk with performances. I thought he'd put on a lot more muscle since his last fight so would struggle to make weight. Seemed really gaunt and unhealthy looking even after the weigh in-would love to know how much weight he actually cut. Dealt with Mendes' take downs during the fight and finished him with a sweet left. Cocky in prediction, confident in preparation, humble in victory or defeat. Not the typical Irish sportsman's approach but shows great pride in being Irish. Looking forward to seeing him progress.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on July 13, 2015, 12:47:42 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on July 13, 2015, 12:53:13 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 13, 2015, 02:22:50 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.

I don't defend the Rory haters but it might have something to do with one of them hitting golf balls and the other hitting bad motherfűckers! Different rules apply to the fight game. It's part theater. The best of all-time understand and embrace that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2015, 04:27:05 AM
Iceman or Gab or someone who really understands this - was McGregor playing possum the whole time on the ground, happy to take the shots, while waiting for Mendes to transition to a hold knowing that was his chance to escape? Also, when Mendes went for it, he had him by the neck for the choke, he looked to have it locked in. When he went to wrap the legs was it poor execution or was it skill by McGregor to escape?

I don't like him but that was great to watch and he took a fair hammering and came out the far side. Still think Dean should have left it the three seconds!
McGregor was in serious trouble on his back Gallsman. He said in the press conference he was hitting him from the bottom, stalling Mendes and being efficient but he had nothing to offer other than that. McGregor got up because Mendes made a mistake and went for a submission, McGregor is a bigger man and exploded up in the scramble and got back to his feet. He was losing the fight by both rounds at that point. You really need to have the choke secured and be in at least half guard transitioning to full guard to land it properly. Mendes smaller frame hurt him, hard to wrap short legs around anyone.  I still think Mendes beats him with a full training camp but fair play to CMG - he was amazing in the standup, despite his obvious physical deterioration (he looked dreadful from the weight cut)....

A fantastic main card. Robbie Lawler is a warrior and Mcdonald won me over for his gutsy performance. Robbie has brutally hurt him now in two fights - I don't know if McDonald can ever be the same after that.

Some crazy flying knee finishes by Jeremy Stephens and Thomas Almeida  - both worth a look.

Also on the prelims check out Matt Brown versus Tim Means  - too tight tight men
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 13, 2015, 10:03:53 AM
would he fill croke park??

He'd get enough people to fill it 5 times.... the residents wouldnt want that though
The residents around Croke Park would have no problem with Sheamus McGregor. He draws a lot of his following from that area.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 13, 2015, 10:10:04 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.

I don't defend the Rody haters but it might have something to do with one of them hitting golf balls and the other hitting bad motherfűckers! Different rules apply to the fight game. It's part theater. The best of all-time understand and embrace that.

agree Syferus. boxers do it too, but boxing has become boring now, very little good fights anymore. thats part of the reason UFC has become so popular. Muhammad Ali was the biggest mouth piece ever when he started out, the Louisville Lip! everyone thought he was crazy and couldn't wait til he was beat! now im not comparing the 2 men, but they are similar in that sense.

how do people not see that its a show, to generate interest, which generates money!! the Americans all take him seriously too, you have to take his talk with a pinch of salt! he is a very intelligent man and he is reaping the rewards!
taking Aldos belt in Dublin was a little bit much, but, it went viral around the world, it was attention, it added to the hype!
if i was McGregor i would stay doing exactly as im doing! he is Dana Whites money machine!
he is, and i quote, "the new face of the UFC" !

oh and he would sell out Croke Park no problem!

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 10:52:54 AM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on July 13, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
As far as I am aware they do, one of the biggest names no longer competes due to testosterone enhancements, Chel Sonnen.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 11:29:41 AM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

 you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 13, 2015, 11:36:31 AM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

 you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried

At the same time, let's not ignore fact that even with its progress recently, UFC and the wider world of mma has a long way to go on this front.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 11:38:08 AM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on July 13, 2015, 11:38:59 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on July 13, 2015, 11:42:50 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

Is Rory permitted a 5 iron?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 11:52:02 AM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

 you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on July 13, 2015, 12:00:12 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

 you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?

http://mmajunkie.com/2015/06/ufc-confirms-partnership-with-usada-details-of-out-of-competition-testing-program
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Premier Emperor on July 13, 2015, 12:01:52 PM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.
The franchise already has its Irish leprechaun character in Sheamus McGregor. McIlroy adds nothing to it.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 13, 2015, 12:20:53 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".

On what grounds? The violence? The Drug Testing? Or McGregor's obnoxious public image?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:42:06 PM
Paul Kimmage has just said on Radio 1 that he was "repulsed" by this McGregor event and also said "I would question whether mainstream media should even engage with it".

On what grounds? The violence? The Drug Testing? Or McGregor's obnoxious public image?
A little from column A. a little from column B, and a little from column C, I would presume.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on July 13, 2015, 12:49:55 PM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

We'd all love to see McGregor in there for 30 seconds with you!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Sidney on July 13, 2015, 12:54:37 PM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

We'd all love to see McGregor in there for 30 seconds with you!
He'd probably put up more of a fight than some of the jokers McGregor has "fought" so far. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 13, 2015, 12:56:16 PM
Does McGregor call the shots now or does he have to fight Aldo? Anymore reports on why Aldo pulled out? I've read a few rumours about him using fake X-ray scans, chasing drug testers away etc.
I thought UFC doesn't have drug testing, though? I thought that was the point, that it's not regulated and thus they have carte blanche to juice up on whatever they want?

 you couldn't be more wrong even if you tried
Who regulates it? This Dana White chap?

yer ma
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:01:57 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 13, 2015, 11:24:30 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

McGregor should handle Aldo. A fully prepared Mendes would beat McGregor but they will keep him away from Wrestlers for a while again. They will milk him on the Ultimate Fighter, then on the Aldo fight then on his title defense in Croker.  McGregor win or lose in Croker will be a wealthy man.

Elbows to the top of the head from the bottom are legal, think about it, you dont get much sting on anything off of your back, no body weight, all limited arm strength with your shoulders on the mat.
From the top elbows are legal from 3-9or 9-3 but not from 12 - 6 (straight down). 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on July 13, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Thanks Iceman.  I understood most of that :-)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 14, 2015, 03:58:12 AM
Think all his mouthing puts the Irish in a bad light, sooner hes beat the better, cant stand him. This lets all jump on the Irish bandwagon pure crap, hes got no class!

A p***k, I have no time for him. Can't understand the mentality that deems Rory McIlroy's smugness to be distasteful but McGregor's arrogance and hardman play acting to be acceptable.
I'd love to see McGregor get Mcilroy into the ring or hexagon or what ever the feck it's called for a few rounds.

I would expect that from you son, no class and the fact that you would want a big mouthed thug beat seven shades of shite out of a golfer, who declared for Ireland and actually is the best in the world at what he does, well, it speaks volumes, McGregor is devoid of humility and although I cannot root against the f**ker I cannot bring myself to hope he wins. I support all Irish athletes and want the best for all Irish people, Rory McIlroy has never been in trouble in his life, is a solid citizen and I cannot fathom as to why you would want him beaten to shit by a loudmouth bollocks like McGregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 14, 2015, 04:05:54 AM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on July 14, 2015, 09:44:36 AM
why do some people feel the need to comment here if they don't like the sport?!
And Kimmage can f**k right off. if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to watch it.
appreciate the fact that it is MMA, Mixed Martial Arts. pitting different styles of martial arts against each other to see what/who comes out on top, its genius! and highly entertaining, people are sick to the teeth of watching 2 boxers run around after each other or hug each other for half an hour, remember that "fight of the century" between Mayweather and Pacquiao?! What a load of shite!!
and what did they earn for that? Mayweather made about 100 million or something stupid like that, for running around! at least there is some action in the UFC.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.

Eh. Mendes is the lad he beat.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on July 14, 2015, 11:15:29 AM
Lol some serious hate for CMG.

I just normally avoid something I dont like.

Simple enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on July 14, 2015, 11:23:00 AM
In fairness it's hard to avoid Conor McGregor-mania :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 14, 2015, 01:26:25 PM
why do some people feel the need to comment here if they don't like the sport?!
And Kimmage can f**k right off. if he doesn't like it he doesn't have to watch it.
appreciate the fact that it is MMA, Mixed Martial Arts. pitting different styles of martial arts against each other to see what/who comes out on top, its genius! and highly entertaining, people are sick to the teeth of watching 2 boxers run around after each other or hug each other for half an hour, remember that "fight of the century" between Mayweather and Pacquiao?! What a load of shite!!
and what did they earn for that? Mayweather made about 100 million or something stupid like that, for running around! at least there is some action in the UFC.

Because it's a discussion board and people are allowed voice their opinion on it. How many posters have come on here with a Kimmage-esque rant.

Plenty of MMA fights are shite and incredibly boring. When Mendes was on top and throwing the occasional elbow, that wasn't entertaining or skillful, it was just stalemate.

My major issues with the sport are its lax (but improving) attitude to drugs, the treatment of some of its fighters (little more than chattel at times) and its toleration of yobs like those who turned up at the Convention Centre in Dublin simply to act the maggot and abuse a genius like Jose Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 14, 2015, 01:27:03 PM
In fairness it's hard to avoid Conor McGregor-mania :)
No-one loves a bandwagon more than the Irish. Croke Park, if and when it happens, will be packed. What percentage are there for the drink only is anyone's guess!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: joemamas on July 14, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.

Agree 100%. Not my idea of a sport. Just what Ireland needs, this to become mainstream. Throw in a bellyful of Alcohol or whatever, and you may need body armour leaving a lot of various city premises after midnight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 14, 2015, 03:51:28 PM
Just had a look at the fight there. Wouldn't be my thing at all. A lad hammering elbows into another lads eye socket is something you'd expect outside the Bullring in Tralee, or at 4am outside a nightclub, not something I would class as sport, but sure everyone to their own.

McGregor I dislike his public persona a lot. I don't like that sort of self aggrandising approach, but I realise why he does it and I'm willing to believe he's not like that in real life. However, whatever about his posturing and nonsense talking, he's a brave little divil. That was a lot of punishment he took, and he stood up well. He actually looks like he could be a decent boxer too, that's a big left hand he has there.

Best part for me though was Sinead O'Connor singing the Foggy Dew. Talk about hair raising. (no pun intended Sinead!).

I'm glad everyone had a good time, and I'm glad he won, but I won't be mad to watch his next fight either. In contrast i'll probably buy a ticket for Andy Lee in Thomond Park.

Agree 100%. Not my idea of a sport. Just what Ireland needs, this to become mainstream. Throw in a bellyful of Alcohol or whatever, and you may need body armour leaving a lot of various city premises after midnight.

Are you even a little bit serious? Because if you are it's hard not to laugh.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on July 14, 2015, 06:28:32 PM
I'm not hugely into UFC and don't fully understand the ins and outs of it, but I get the impression that Jose Aldo doesn't like Conor McGregor very much........

On Brazilian ‘Rock Bola’ radio, Jose Aldo went on an epic rant on Conor McGregor, and what he was going to to do the newly crowned interim featherweight champion.

Here is the translated version:

“I am not going to only beat McGregor up: I am going to make an example out of him. I am going to beat up this son of a bitch so bad that he won’t be able to open his mouth to say his shits for more than one month. I am going to break the jaw of this cuckolded son of a bitch in three parts. The ********* fans of that cuckold and the UFC will regret having put that ****tard to fight me because I am going to blow out his little star. I am going to blow out his little star. I’ve never felt so powerful in my life. Before breaking my rib I was knocking out light-heavyweights with body shots. I can’t spar yet, but I am still punching and kicking with the same power. I won’t even bother dodging McGregor’s little punches and dancing fairy kicks: I will walk straight towards him and take away his manhood. Take his pride. Humiliate him. Swell up those ****-sucking lips of his. Good luck knocking me out, Cigano couldn’t do it in full-contact boxing. But the most delightful will be to see the look on the faces of his racist Irish fans. Look at their faces after I have turned their national hero into a bottom-boy.”
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on July 14, 2015, 07:57:31 PM
I'm not hugely into UFC and don't fully understand the ins and outs of it, but I get the impression that Jose Aldo doesn't like Conor McGregor very much........

On Brazilian ‘Rock Bola’ radio, Jose Aldo went on an epic rant on Conor McGregor, and what he was going to to do the newly crowned interim featherweight champion.

Here is the translated version:

“I am not going to only beat McGregor up: I am going to make an example out of him. I am going to beat up this son of a bitch so bad that he won’t be able to open his mouth to say his shits for more than one month. I am going to break the jaw of this cuckolded son of a bitch in three parts. The ********* fans of that cuckold and the UFC will regret having put that ****tard to fight me because I am going to blow out his little star. I am going to blow out his little star. I’ve never felt so powerful in my life. Before breaking my rib I was knocking out light-heavyweights with body shots. I can’t spar yet, but I am still punching and kicking with the same power. I won’t even bother dodging McGregor’s little punches and dancing fairy kicks: I will walk straight towards him and take away his manhood. Take his pride. Humiliate him. Swell up those ****-sucking lips of his. Good luck knocking me out, Cigano couldn’t do it in full-contact boxing. But the most delightful will be to see the look on the faces of his racist Irish fans. Look at their faces after I have turned their national hero into a bottom-boy.”

Did Aldo used to be a Finance Minister in Greece?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on July 15, 2015, 03:20:36 AM
It's fake.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on July 15, 2015, 04:33:00 PM
Just watched the mcgregor fight on 3e. I've seen the odd clip here and there.  It's a mad sport.  Vicious in the extreme.  After watching the way mcgregor conducted himself during the fight and after I'd have respect for the man.  All I knew was the trash talk and lack of respect for Aldo etc.

A couple of questions though to the ufc men on here.

What's the craic with the elbows to the the face and top of the head when you've a man pinned to the deck..work away?

Mendes had 2 weeks prep and got plenty of reward in the 1st 2 rounds.  Is mcgregor capable of beating Aldo?  I'll definitely  watch it

Mendes would take him without too much trouble, he is two steps up from the lad he beat who only had two weeks to prepare for him, that said, McGregor was prepping for a man other than the lad he fought, still, I think McGregor is a couple of fights away from getting his arse handed to him, if he fights the best, he has a lethal left paw and I think he would be a tremendous boxer if he ever had the mind to try it.

I could see the boxing community reach out to him for big bucks in a three fight deal with the third being a title shot, what have they to lose, they have killed the sport and he would inject some life into the sport that is far superior to the shite he is fighting in now when done right.

Eh. Mendes is the lad he beat.

Sorry I meant Aldo.

If ever a man is destined for a batin it is McGregor, I know a lot of it is publicity shite but he is going to get his head handed to him in the next couple of fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on July 15, 2015, 04:40:15 PM
I was in Vegas for the whole build up and post fight and I have to tell you - I knew very little about the UFC and admitted that to any Americans asking during my stay, in fact I only got tickets cos the boys with me were all going.

But the atmosphere was absolutely electric, it honestly equalled my own counties' 3 all ireland triumphs. There was absolutely no trouble, no fights broke out, and we were in the middle of the whole ruckus and singing in the MGM casino, both after the weigh in and after the fight. Everyone was united and had a tricolour on their back, and the Americans staying in Vegas were amazed, in complete awe of the support McGregor had behind him. It was a pretty mad week, and it really changed my perception of the UFC, pre-fight I also thought it was a brutal sport, whilst it still is, these are top, top athletes who have prepared hard in training both physically and mentally, who are going right to the death, I mean come on, you can't tell me on here that the Lawler vs MacDonald fight wasn't brilliant?

That's my 2 cents worth!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 16, 2015, 05:59:47 AM
good report there glad you got to go! Been to a few live events but havent made it to a McGregor card yet  - I wouldn't be a big fan of going to vegas so unless he fights somewhere else I'll most likely miss out...
Welcome to the sport - keep watching!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 18, 2015, 07:53:29 PM
UFC in glasgow tonight lads - some good fights already over but 2 potentially great scraps coming up now in next few minutes.
Nice warm up before Frampton...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on October 22, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
Laughed my are off at this one



Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on October 22, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
Bit mad from Kavanagh I thought. Announces partnership Tuesday, threatens to cancel it Thursday.

Daft from Reebok though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on October 22, 2015, 02:43:05 PM
Laughed my are off at this one



Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on October 22, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
Laughed my are off at this one



Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently

That's about right!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 15, 2015, 06:09:41 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 15, 2015, 08:10:58 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on November 15, 2015, 10:00:44 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!
Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 15, 2015, 12:54:11 PM
No fluke either, she had a game plan, stuck to it and it tore Rousey apart. Rousey's corner were awful. She was chasing around like a bull, getting tagged repeatedly and absolutely knackered because of it. The corner told her to keep it up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on November 15, 2015, 01:26:06 PM
Laughed my are off at this one



Reebok have pulled it this morning after CMG's manager berated them and threatened to pull the sponsorship deal if it wasn't removed immediately...

designed in Laois apparently
I bought one on eBay earlier.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: blewuporstuffed on November 15, 2015, 11:34:09 PM
Ronda Rousey got her ass handed to her last night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on November 16, 2015, 09:36:00 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!

watched the fight yesterday. The gulf in class was huge. Through Entourage, calling out Mayweather etc I knew who Rousey was. What I don't understand was how she was the (supposed) numero uno in a combat sport when she has  zero defence ! Your one Holm had a free pass to Rousey's jaw all bout.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on November 16, 2015, 11:10:53 AM
Ronda Rousey defeated, knocked clean out tonight. Must be one of the biggest shocks in the history of UFC. Great performance by Holly Holm.

She was annihilated swinging at air on a few occasions as well. The hype machine is a bad job for fighters it wouldn't surprise me to see the same end to McGregor against Aldo!!

watched the fight yesterday. The gulf in class was huge. Through Entourage, calling out Mayweather etc I knew who Rousey was. What I don't understand was how she was the (supposed) numero uno in a combat sport when she has  zero defence ! Your one Holm had a free pass to Rousey's jaw all bout.

If you'd seen her previous fights she has been electric. Nobody else had troubled her in the slightest and with her judo skills and being an Olympic champion it helped her to get the big name.

Holm was supposed to be the true test of Rousey's boxing skills and she failed spectacularly. This will set her back a long way she's going to have to beat Holm in a rematch to regain her credibility.

Having said that the time and experience it would take to get to that level I just don't think is possible. She was totally out thought, out classed and out fought!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on November 22, 2015, 10:38:25 AM
Holly Holm vs Ronda Rousey FULL FIGHT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPSxWcZ-WoY

Jon Jones on teammate, new UFC champ Holly Holm: GOAT of women's combat sports http://mmajunkie.com/2015/11/jon-jones-on-teammate-new-ufc-champ-holly-holm-goat-of-womens-combat-sports
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on November 22, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Great article here about the hype over Rousey and some of the nonsense spouted around her dominance. ESPN were proclaiming her the greatest female athlete ever ffs!

https://the-cauldron.com/the-end-of-an-error-cbac04dc4a98#.gjgoxhg4g
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:15:18 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 05:37:48 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?

The bill starts 7pm pacific (3am in Ireland). 4 fights on the card before McGregor's so depending on the length of them I would hazard a guess at around 5/6am maybe
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 05:55:24 PM
Lads any rough idea what time the McGregor fight is scheduled for on Saturday night/Sunday morning?

The bill starts 7pm pacific (3am in Ireland). 4 fights on the card before McGregor's so depending on the length of them I would hazard a guess at around 5/6am maybe

Good man. Should be home in good time for it then!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on December 11, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
What (if any) chance has mcgregor of winning?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 06:36:29 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Is the Edgar Mendes fight just on Fox Sports or is part of the  pay per view package?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2015, 06:53:34 PM
He is bigger and stronger and should keep Aldo at bay as much as possible, Aldo is lightning fast and his movement is the best the sport has probably ever seen.

I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter, he probably relaxed a bit but I think he will be very much up for this and he is definitely the fitter fighter, that, and Aldo's extended break leads me to believe that McGregor can win if he gets after Aldo right from the get go, not let him settle into the fight, the man has not been beaten in a decade but I have changed my mind, McGregor to win in spectacular fashion in the forth.


After all of that, it would not surprise me if this was over inside of five minutes either way.

Finally, I want McGregor to win because of the Irish angle, if I were a yank or French or any other nationality I would want Aldo to win, it should be one of the best fights ever but you never know.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:06:13 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

 I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on December 11, 2015, 07:16:33 PM
Does a UFC fight go to judges after the rounds? ( if no KO)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on December 11, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Anyone know what time these ones are on at here and are they on BT Sport?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 07:53:47 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Anyone know what time these ones are on at here and are they on BT Sport?

Looks to be similar times to what I mentioned earlier, only today (or tomorrow morning for you!)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 11, 2015, 08:36:53 PM
3 nights of fights lads - last night look for Tim Means versus Jon Howard - great standup scrap. Then Mike Chiesa versus Jim Miller for great grappling match. Then Paige VanZant versus Rose Namajunas for a 5 rd WAR.
Tonight is the Ultimate Fighter Finale - Edgar versus Mendes should be great fight to watch and Tony Fegruson versus Edson Barboza is my pic for fight of the night.

McGregor card has some unreal fights - the whole thing is worth watching!

Is the Edgar Mendes fight just on Fox Sports or is part of the  pay per view package?
different altogether - will be on Fox Sports 1 - if you don't have the channel you'll find something on streamhunter or something similar
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 11, 2015, 08:48:07 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

 I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

Good first point, that said yer man tired and was obviously not at his best shape wise.

If under pressure stop at a Buffalo Wild Wings and watch for free.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 10:11:57 PM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

 I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

Good first point, that said yer man tired and was obviously not at his best shape wise.

If under pressure stop at a Buffalo Wild Wings and watch for free.

Cheers I'll either be heading to a local bar or to a friends house.


different altogether - will be on Fox Sports 1 - if you don't have the channel you'll find something on streamhunter or something similar

I have it, so that shall be watched tonight!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: hardstation on December 11, 2015, 11:55:48 PM
I was in Aldo's earlier. McGregor is going to get battered apparently.
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Post by: gawa316 on December 11, 2015, 11:56:17 PM
Thought the weigh in would've been more eventful
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Post by: omaghjoe on December 12, 2015, 03:09:07 AM


I thought Aldo would win this all along and McGregors last fight to me was unimpressive because he was fighting a replacement fighter,

Does this not work both ways though? McGregor was training to fight Aldo, then he had 3 weeks or so to change his training style to focus on Mendes. I don't know.

As for who wins, I don't know. I have only got into UFC in the last year or so, so don't know enough about it. What i do know is I love McGregor, yes he's not going to be everyones cup of tea but so far he has backed everything up he has said with performances in the cage.

I have butterflies in my stomach at the thought of the fight tomorrow night. Feck I am even nervous watching the Ulimate Fighter fights when is Europe v USA. So glad to see Artem knock that cocky f**k out on Wednesday night.

 I have to pick the oul pair up from SFO airport at 3.30p so will be hauling ass back to Fresno to get out for it

TBH dont like UFC at all, despise McGregor and hope it gets his ass handed to him tomorrow night.

On another point be careful on that 152, was on it a couple of weeks back and there was a serious smash on it, happens regularly apparently
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Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 05:57:06 AM
Cheers boss. Aye I've seen about 3 major accidents on that road. They drive like fcukin maniacs going down the hill. Looks to be giving a dry day, as it's an absolute bitch in the rain and spray.

Mendes fight just about to start
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Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 06:09:42 AM
Well that was over quick
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Post by: gallsman on December 12, 2015, 12:49:20 PM
McGregor looked f**king ill on the scales. 145 must be am absolute nightmare for him these days.
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Post by: gallsman on December 12, 2015, 01:53:33 PM
I was in Aldo's earlier. McGregor is going to get battered apparently.

 ;D ;D
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Post by: JoG2 on December 12, 2015, 02:41:58 PM
The woman commentator @ the weigh in "I don't think Jose looks scared"  wtf?

I'm not a ufc fan at all,  but I'm really looking forward to seeing how this one plays out.  Two hardy boys
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Post by: bridgegael on December 12, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
What time will the fight start
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Post by: JoG2 on December 12, 2015, 02:55:00 PM
What time will the fight start

5am they say
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Post by: gawa316 on December 12, 2015, 04:00:19 PM
http://www.benchwarmers.ie/videos/the-full-irish-fans-qa-with-holly-holms-is-the-funniest-thing-youll-watch-today/34099/#.VmxEhUilacU
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Post by: Muck Savage on December 13, 2015, 12:40:18 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.
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Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 01:17:56 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.

McGregor has better stamina than Aldo who tends to tire in the latter rounds, if he can stay on his feet McGregor will win this but he would do well to attack from the get go, ring should  be a factor for a round or so  but after that Aldo will find his groove, the closer I get to this fight the more I cant shake off a sensational first round knockout with McGregor unconscious, I hope I am wrong.
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Post by: Ulick on December 13, 2015, 01:26:37 AM
Anyone know what time it's due to start? I had though 12 but have been sitting here like a la for the last hour and a half.
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Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 01:48:23 AM
I believe at 3:00 Am GMT.
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Post by: DuffleKing on December 13, 2015, 02:04:23 AM
Aldo will win this. Would love to see Mac win but Aldo has played his cards well. Knew he would lose the original fight because wasn't prepared. Pulled out got ready and now will beat Mac. Mac was in his head for the first date but he spent since then blocking him out.
He's going to kick Macs legs all night long and just stay away from the big left. Macs legs I fear will be gone in rnd 3 and then Aldo will go at him. Mac's only chance is to go at him early and try finish early.
Aldo will chew him up once rnd 3 comes.
Can't remember who Aldo faught last year but he was on crutches for 2 weeks after the fight because of the leg kicks.

Not sure how much faith I can put in your tactical analysis if you don't know that was Urijah Faber
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Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 05:31:22 AM
Can anyone explain why that fight wasn't stopped in the 3rd 3rd??
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Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:33:02 AM
Dare say a few of yis are regretting not getting up instead of stayin up!
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Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 05:41:14 AM
Dare say a few of yis are regretting not getting up instead of stayin up!

I got up at 4am. Wish they'd just get it started here!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 05:46:27 AM
f**k that guy just got mutated...find that hard to watch.

McGregor on now
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Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 05:56:26 AM
OMG
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Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 05:56:54 AM
Holy shit!!
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Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 05:58:05 AM
Jesus Christ!!
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Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 05:58:22 AM
 :o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now
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Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:00:00 AM
13 sec
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Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:00:35 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 06:01:41 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.
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Post by: Walter Cronc on December 13, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
Giving the fingers to the crowd after. He's some kn**ker....but a talented one!!!
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Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 06:08:52 AM
Woke up, had a pee, 13 seconds of a fight now back to bed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:26 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 06:56:52 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it

Did you see the fight before it? How it wasn't stopped in round 3 I'll never know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:58 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
.

I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 07:17:47 AM
Typifies why I don't like the sport, the guy was knocked clean out and McGregor can hammer away at him until the ref stops it

Did you see the fight before it? How it wasn't stopped in round 3 I'll never know!

Just youtubed that it looked bad as well... but at least he was still conscious

Call me conservative or whatever you want but I always thought a man goin down was good enough reason for a fight to be suspended until its established if he is able, or wants to continue

I know there is multiple disciplines goin on and some of them involve floor combat or whatever but I dont think any of them allow striking on the floor do they?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 13, 2015, 07:30:46 AM
Woke up, had a pee, 13 seconds of a fight now back to bed.

Be thankful you didn't need to have a shite!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 07:56:56 AM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 08:07:33 AM
:o :o
Feck me he'll be hard to listen to now

He backs his mouth up with his performances.

He does and that is probably the most annoying bit
.

I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes

Ach aye fair play to him like, I know its BS but I just dont like his BS! And I dont see the fact that he comes from the same lump of dirt as myself as reason enuff to give him a pass on it.

But Im sure he's not too worreid about what i think and the wee hoor got me interested enuff in the fight to watch it :D

On another note I seen a rumour online that he was goin into the fight at 175lbs :o That is nothing short of unbelievable re-hydration?
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Post by: bridgegael on December 13, 2015, 08:35:19 AM
Fair play to the lad, watched his interview he did in 2008, a world away from where he is now.  Delivered on everything. Like him or loathe him he is flying the flag for Irish sport. He is the number one fighter on the planet, I'll take that. 
Be proud that he is Irish
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Post by: gallsman on December 13, 2015, 09:50:14 AM
Fair play to the lad, watched his interview he did in 2008, a world away from where he is now.  Delivered on everything. Like him or loathe him he is flying the flag for Irish sport. He is the number one fighter on the planet, I'll take that. 
Be proud that he is Irish

Couldn't get away from that this week. That and the time he stole the belts.

As for number one fighter on the planet, not at all.

I don't like him but fair play to him. Absolutely beautiful ko.
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Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 10:30:15 AM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Really? I think he would absolutely want to show up and collect such an award. I'd say it would actually mean an awful lot to him. Even if he couldn't be there I'd say he would still be happy to receive it.
I don't know very much about him(or the sport)but he seems a very proud Irishman, to be honoured as Irish sports star of the year would surely be something he'd love no?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
Just watched the fight there with not knowing the result.  Crazy.  Some punch.  Absolutely brutal sport.  To be honest,  until the ring walk in,  I wanted Aldo to win.  The music,  the flag, Mcgregor smiling, something changed my mind.   Money is the over riding factor in any ufc decision I'd say,  but surely there is bound to be a rematch?
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Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:22:00 AM
 Watched a 5 minute YouTube video of mcgregor insulting/taunting Aldo  at various events.

I don't care if he is Irish! Tramps behaviour!

 Pity he won!
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Post by: ashman on December 13, 2015, 12:06:54 PM
A load of 5hite but fair play to CMG as he is coining .
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Post by: Boycey on December 13, 2015, 12:24:43 PM
In the aftermath as McGregor hangs off the cage he seems to me to be giving someone the finger, if so who was it...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 12:46:44 PM
In the aftermath as McGregor hangs off the cage he seems to me to be giving someone the finger, if so who was it...

Aldo's granny probably
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2015, 12:54:26 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 13, 2015, 01:02:24 PM
Very Mickey O'Neil from McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 01:06:29 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.
The majority of the begrudgers are Nordie it seems.
Maybe he's from the wrong part of Ireland...
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Post by: Boycey on December 13, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

That'd be disappointing if true, in the moment of your biggest victory to be worried by something like that..
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Post by: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:05:14 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.

Workrate, dedication and talent.

Really gets into his opponent's head too. At the weigh-in I thought the balance had tipped in Aldo's favour. He looked confident, and I thought McGregor looked a little nervous, maybe down to looking more gaunt than usual.

But fight night was the opposite. Aldo wouldnt even look at him and Conor was super relaxed. He has some power in that left hand.

In this game, his time will come when he will lose, and undoubtedly be hurt when it happens. But for now, he's nothing short of awesome
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
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Post by: Hound on December 13, 2015, 02:22:50 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
Very sensitive of you to get upset at him tearing up a picture of Aldo and throwing darts at a picture!!

He does what he does to sell fights and get under the skin of his opponent. As a lot of the best fighters throughout history have done. Anyone who takes it seriously should cop themselves on! Or did you believe he'd really ride on horseback in Rio and take the city down!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 02:32:04 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)
Very sensitive of you to get upset at him tearing up a picture of Aldo and throwing darts at a picture!!

He does what he does to sell fights and get under the skin of his opponent. As a lot of the best fighters throughout history have done. Anyone who takes it seriously should cop themselves on! Or did you believe he'd really ride on horseback in Rio and take the city down!

  Watch the video FFS!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.
Shane Lowry and Katie Taylor have had very good years also,but yeah I think McGregor should get it.
It's great Lowry,McGregor and Taylor all from Ireland doing well in their chosen sport on a world stage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 13, 2015, 02:37:55 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:00:38 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:03:54 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:06:09 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 13, 2015, 03:27:41 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Well obviously he can't compete with you and your 57 All Ireland winners medals.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
Lowry isn't even the best golfer in Ireland.
What you on about sheepshagger? I said he's had a great year, which he has,and that he's also doing well on the world stage, which he is.

Depends on your definition of great
Well obviously he can't compete with you and your 57 All Ireland winners medals.

We can leave it 5 rather than 57. Don't want to boast
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 13, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

Classy as usual.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on December 13, 2015, 03:41:13 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)


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Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:18:20 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

 One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 04:19:05 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)




 Don't understand the relevance of this picture!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 06:22:21 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

 One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: SHEEDY on December 13, 2015, 06:32:13 PM
yous do know UFC isnt even a real sport lads, it doesnt even come close to WWE. sheamus for irish sportsman of the year!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 13, 2015, 06:33:52 PM
Jesus Christ Indie wud ye calm down the lad won I'm sure he's not too worried about what the general public thinks of him, next thing you'll be doing is blaming this on one of Mickey Harte's conspiracies

His promotional antics are probably just that but its the image he projects to the world, and it aint the nice family guy image you're talking about. Are you really surprised some/alot of people dont like it? Im sure McGregor was well aware that it would divide opinion and get people talking,which is also a big part of the reason that he puts on the persona.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 13, 2015, 06:53:25 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

 One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 13, 2015, 07:09:19 PM
Fights have to be sold,  a bit of slagging and goading is grand,  but mcgregor goes way beyond,  and certain people think he's a c**k because of it. Don't think begrudery comes into it, they just don't like McGregor,  much like alot of my English friends at uni thought Eubank was a tool. 

I'd say the same boys giving mcgregor a hard time were nearly jumping into the ring / TV when Collins was fighting Eubank for example.  'it's not where your from,  it's where your at'
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 07:42:46 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

 One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.

Hope you are not referring to me there.

I never said I would support him if he was from Tyrone. In fact I would not. I would be ashamed!

The video which I pasted above contains inexcusable behaviour from McGregor. Who in their right mind would attempt yo justify such behaviour. Does he need to do it? Can he not just depend on his skills inside the cage to do his talking for him.

Barry McGuigan didn't resort to such and he became World Champion!



Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on December 13, 2015, 07:59:32 PM
I like the wind up merchants and trash talkers in all sports so I love watching McGregor. If you're the sort of person who can't listen to the likes of Mayweather and McGregor then you are obviously not going to like him.  Not a big fan of UFC, I can take it or leave it but I will always watch his interviews and press conferences as they're hilarious. He is playing the pantomime villain role to perfection, look at how much attention he gets! He is one of the main men in sport at the moment and is even on the front of the UFC computer game now ffs.  One thing that can't be denied is of how proud he is to be Irish. I say fair play to the fella. Started with very little and a few years later he is a multi millionaire superstar.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 08:59:20 PM
I don't know the Irish usually play the plucky underdog shit the whole time. Yes he has a mouth, mostly before the fights ( he's usually a bit more gracious after) buts it's part of the act. I love it but can see why others don't.

Another sporting triumph from our wee Isle, something to be celebrated in my eyes
+1. In the GAA especially, players live in terror of saying anything to the media that sounds remotely confident.

I know he couldn't give a toss and probably wouldn't show up to collect his award, but he is surely the Irish Sportstar of the Year.
Really? I think he would absolutely want to show up and collect such an award. I'd say it would actually mean an awful lot to him. Even if he couldn't be there I'd say he would still be happy to receive it.
I don't know very much about him(or the sport)but he seems a very proud Irishman, to be honoured as Irish sports star of the year would surely be something he'd love no?
Maybe he would, but he'll be a busy man and my guess is that we'd get  a "Unfortunately Conor can't be here..........but he did send us this video........". You're right though, it probably would mean something to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

You've had Tyrone players who ran dog fighting clubs. Were you proud of them?

 One  player who I knew of !     Who were the others?

Why in under God would I be proud of him or them, as you say?

If Mc gregor was from Tyrone you'd like him. He's a superstar and actually a nice guy outside the ring if you ever actually met him.

Humble and very down to earth. Looks after his family, trains like a monk, doesn't fall out of pubs and nightclubs pissed as a fart absuing everyone around them like a lot of top intercounty players - etc.

Trash talk has been around since Ali. You're going into a ring with another guy who wants to kick the shit out of you. You're unlikely to spend the press conferences beforehand playing Connect 4 with your opponent.

He's a lot nicer then some of the GAA players I know.
And if he wasn't from Dublin you wouldn't be defending him ;D
You're both as bad as each other.

Hope you are not referring to me there.

I never said I would support him if he was from Tyrone. In fact I would not. I would be ashamed!

The video which I pasted above contains inexcusable behaviour from McGregor. Who in their right mind would attempt yo justify such behaviour. Does he need to do it? Can he not just depend on his skills inside the cage to do his talking for him.

Barry McGuigan didn't resort to such and he became World Champion!

**Cough cough ** What about Ricey??

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 10:14:10 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 13, 2015, 10:17:49 PM
For me that egdes him marginally ahead of Rory as Top Irish Sportsman at the moment and undoubtedly should be Sportsperson of the Year.

Workrate, dedication and talent.

Really gets into his opponent's head too. At the weigh-in I thought the balance had tipped in Aldo's favour. He looked confident, and I thought McGregor looked a little nervous, maybe down to looking more gaunt than usual.

But fight night was the opposite. Aldo wouldnt even look at him and Conor was super relaxed. He has some power in that left hand.

In this game, his time will come when he will lose, and undoubtedly be hurt when it happens. But for now, he's nothing short of awesome

That was nothing to do with McGregor being in his head or anything, that's what he's always done in all his fights. Just a different style.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: redzone on December 13, 2015, 10:32:56 PM
Is there any word of a rematch. Intrestling Aldo actually opened mcgregor with that first punch so it would have been interesting if it had of continued.id say he would nearly sell out croke park.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on December 13, 2015, 10:41:17 PM
McGregor is a revelation. The UFC mustn't be able to believe their luck finding this guy! He talks to the talk and backs it up. The pre fight talk to part of the show. If you want to see what kind of a guy McGregor is then check out the post match fight, it's a lot different than what he does in the build up, which is part of his game.

A brother of a friend has been following him from day one and McGregor could not be better to this guy. The word loyalty is something important to him and he finds time tor reward those who had faith in him from the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8efXPkZ5co

http://severemma.com/2014/12/exclusive-video-conor-mcgregor-talks-poirier-finish-stadium-shows-siver-aldo-edgar-more/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlFxJ3dj2hk
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:04:35 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 13, 2015, 11:15:32 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

Well you said we shouldn't support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour ... Blah blah blah which is just a bit of hypocritical given Tyrone and particularly Riceys antics over the years!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on December 13, 2015, 11:15:48 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 11:21:05 PM
I'd say it was to the Irish begrudgers, although he should have done it for a lot longer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY7r-DwtjD8

We should be proud of this true sportsman alright! ::)

That video is class. Funniest thing I've seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 13, 2015, 11:28:18 PM
If I was training an opponent in cmg's the first thing I would do would be to show him tape of Ali and how he behaved prior to some of his bouts, then I would show him Tysons pre fight interviews and ask him what he learned from those exercises, based on his response I think you could get an idea of how the fight was going to go.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: bennydorano on December 13, 2015, 11:30:54 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

Narf narf
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:39:39 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

Well you said we shouldn't support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour ... Blah blah blah which is just a bit of hypocritical given Tyrone and particularly Riceys antics over the years!

Where did I say that others should not support McGregor because of his disgusting behaviour?

And where did I say that I supported the bad behaviour of any Gaa player?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 13, 2015, 11:43:32 PM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

 The only person I saw biting anyone in the ring was Tyson. But what has that to do with anything?

Where did I say that  I didn't apply the same standards to GAA footballers that represent my county or indeed any county?

I have never seen any player behave towards an opponent like McGregor!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 13, 2015, 11:58:47 PM
I wouldn't know anything about UFC, but I have to say McGregor has forced me to take an interest.

I love the brashness. I love the predictions and the uber-cockiness. I probably would have disliked this particular aspect of him a few years ago, but I am completely bored with sportsmen and women these days. Even the GAA (and probably especially the GAA) interviews bore me to tears.

If McGregor was playing for the All-Ireland Champions he would probably talk along the lines of "Lookit, Kilkenny might be a junior ladies team and are missing 25,000 players through injury and apathy, but they will still be a formidable challenge for us on Sunday. They'll be really up for it playing the All-Ireland mens champions."

If he was playing for a Premiership team he would be waffling along the lines of "....at the end of the day you have go out and do a job and its not over till the fat lady sing, obviously."

If he was Katie Taylor he would be telling us "....my God is the love of my life and He will lead me to my eternal salvation....".

If he was a golfer he would say sh*ite like "...if I bring my A-game I feel I can compete.....".

And if he was a tennis player he would be 'playing one match at a time'.

Sport is so cliched and mundane these days, why is everyone so offended with some old style braggadocio? It adds to the whole thing, even if it means half of the audience are only watching to see the trash-talker beaten. I dream of every county having someone who trash talks the opposition. Or even just speaks their mind.

Think of (for example) Meath drawn against Dublin next year with the usual 'lookit' bullshit. And then think of it with a Dublin player calling Meath 'useless', and a Meath player calling the Dubs arrogant or some other (maybe better) insult. Build and escalate that, McGregor style, for a week or two and Croker would sell out. The atmosphere would be electric.

Instead we will have more, 'I think it will go down to the wire, very much so'.

McGregor might get knocked out in the next fight, and I am not sure I like the UFC format, but I have to say I am enjoying him. I hope he is around for a few years.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 13, 2015, 11:59:56 PM
McGregor is a revelation. The UFC mustn't be able to believe their luck finding this guy! He talks to the talk and backs it up. The pre fight talk to part of the show. If you want to see what kind of a guy McGregor is then check out the post match fight, it's a lot different than what he does in the build up, which is part of his game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8efXPkZ5co

Love that interview. He's a very impressive speaker. Super confident, articulate, fearless and interesting. He does look good in that suit too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 14, 2015, 12:01:12 AM
Great post muppet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on December 14, 2015, 12:25:39 AM
McGregor is a revelation. The UFC mustn't be able to believe their luck finding this guy! He talks to the talk and backs it up. The pre fight talk to part of the show. If you want to see what kind of a guy McGregor is then check out the post match fight, it's a lot different than what he does in the build up, which is part of his game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8efXPkZ5co

Love that interview. He's a very impressive speaker. Super confident, articulate, fearless and interesting. He does look good in that suit too.

He's humbled by the whole thing. I doubt a word passes him lips without some thought going into it, everything is very deliberate and planned. Nearly a completely different guy after the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on December 14, 2015, 12:38:37 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hardy on December 14, 2015, 12:58:15 AM
I hate crap. This is crap. Therefore I hate it. The simplest decision I've had to make today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on December 14, 2015, 04:59:11 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on December 14, 2015, 08:12:31 AM
It's show business. Grow up lads.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 14, 2015, 08:16:15 AM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet
And the only reason you like him is because he is a Dub.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: annapr on December 14, 2015, 08:16:50 AM
I hate crap. This is crap. Therefore I hate it. The simplest decision I've had to make today.
You could get into the octagon with him and bore him into submission.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 08:32:14 AM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

It is difficult to imagine someone missing the point more.

This is what I said:

"Sport is so cliched and mundane these days, why is everyone so offended with some old style braggadocio? It adds to the whole thing, even if it means half of the audience are only watching to see the trash-talker beaten. I dream of every county having someone who trash talks the opposition. Or even just speaks their mind."

Regarding Brolly, the reason he is centre stage is because of his braggadocio. There is nothing else putting him there. He makes money out of it and people tune in, like it or not, to hear him rant. He is the only pundits who gets threads on here about him. If Brolly goes over the top and insults my county, of course I may fall for it and 'take offence'. But that is the whole f*cking point! As an aside I think Brolly is a bit tired in the role these days. He needs company.

You can have in your sterile world of 'lookit Marty'. Or worse again, your Mickey Harte Irish News column.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on December 14, 2015, 09:37:26 AM
A bit of honesty and a few less cliches wouldn't go astray in GAA interviews. I would listen to a McGregor interview. I wouldn't listen to a GAA player being interviewed before a game as I know he's not going to say anything.

Like a lot of people I'd have no interest in UFC but I'd watch a McGregor fight, because of his personality. The GAA doesn't need trash-talking to make it interesting, but some genuine, open interviews would add to it.

At the same time, I wouldn't like to see the post match (usually) magnanimous interviews disappear. Most losing GAA managers will say that the better team won and not moan about the ref, even if they feel they'd have plenty to moan about, and imo that's admirable and a very positive thing in the sport(though we should always be striving to improve the standard of refereeing, which is sometimes abysmal). One of the many things that makes the Premiership unbearable are the post match spin interviews where every losing manager tries to convince you that they deserved(whatever that means) to win the match, and were only prevented from doing so by the referee.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Bingo on December 14, 2015, 09:59:31 AM
I don't like the sport, its just a bit too raw or brutal for me. The fighters definitely have some sort of killer instinct to inflict as much damage, by any means on their opponent.

But saying that, I get McGregor and would totally admire him. To do what he does, he can't be a normal guy, he's not going to be Ed Sheeren, all nice and touching the world. He needs to be supremely confident, beyond cockiness. He needs to get in peoples faces, he needs to get in his opponents head and he needs to be cold blooded.

He is without doubt dedicated to his pursuit of the prize. He is all mouth and OTT at it but I don't think he could compete at that level without been as he appears. Plenty suggest that away from the cameras and in the gym with his own people, he is relaxed and very much like anyone else going about their business.

It will come to a day when he is defeated and it will be interesting to see how he reacts.

There is plenty of Niall Quinns, Ed Sheerens, Bernard Brogans, Daniel O'Donnells in the world, we need the balance of a McGregor.

He's here to stay because he can certainly back up his mouth.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Aristocrat on December 14, 2015, 10:15:39 AM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

More so the club footballers of Tyrone than inter county, Violent animals from minor match's to ladies county finals when chairmen get knocked out, Tyrone is all that is wrong with the GAA, should be kicked out of all competitions for 5 years. See it that helps them turn away from the violence. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 10:34:12 AM
Whats Ricey got to do with this?

what's the difference between him and Mc Gregor?

What's Ricey got to do with this?

Who were the other Tyrone boys involved with the dogs you mentioned earlier?

The only reason you've a problem with Mc Gregor is that he's a Dub. You referenced his pre fight behaviour as scandalous. I'm asking you why you don't apply the same standards to the footballers that represent your county who engage in far worse behaviour then Mc Gregor.

i've yet to see Mc Gregor bite anyone in the ring yet

More so the club footballers of Tyrone than inter county, Violent animals from minor match's to ladies county finals when chairmen get knocked out, Tyrone is all that is wrong with the GAA, should be kicked out of all competitions for 5 years. See it that helps them turn away from the violence.

The complete obsession with Tyrone by some people on here is very amusing.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 11:22:14 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 11:25:47 AM
Quote
Thank you for all the kind messages!
I am extremely grateful and proud to be in the position I am in.
To the naked eye it was 13 seconds, but to my team and my family it has been a lifetime of work to get to that 13 seconds.
Congratulations to the staff at the UFC on a historic week in the sports history and an amazing 2015 for the company.
It is an honor to be playing a part in this great companies continued growth and success and an honor to top off a phenomenal week in the sports history.
Thank you to all the fans who travelled and made this week what it was!!
The traveling Irish are untouchable when it comes to creating the atmosphere needed to make a week like this what it was!!
I am forever blown away by the support of my country. We have changed the game forever!!!
Respect to a great champion in Jose Aldo. The true greats will always overcome adversity.
I wish him and his loyal team well on their journey back. Much respect.
Thank you all!!!

It's all an act. The above is posted on his facebook page, and make far more palatable reading. I hate all the nonsense, but I understand what's behind it. Fair play to him, he's making some waves. As I said, I don't like the act, and I don't particularly like the sport, but it's good to see an Irishman doing well for himself, and the fans having a good time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on December 14, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 12:39:01 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 14, 2015, 01:08:31 PM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:13:54 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:25:35 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on December 14, 2015, 01:32:05 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Not all MMA fights are exciting.  Alot of them are pretty boring, two fellas laying on the ground cuddling for a few rounds with no entertainable action on the go.  But I would imagine that most bandwagon fans think that all fights are explosive and end in knock-out wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: finbar o tool on December 14, 2015, 01:43:04 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

Not all MMA fights are exciting.  Alot of them are pretty boring, two fellas laying on the ground cuddling for a few rounds with no entertainable action on the go.  But I would imagine that most bandwagon fans think that all fights are explosive and end in knock-out wins.

ah here, another one on to bash  "fans" and "bandwagon fans".
ive been following for about 2 years now, new enough, ive seen enough to understand the all dont finish with knock outs etc.
try not to be so patronizing!

anyway, well done Conor, what next? probably Frankie Edgar? Croker??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:47:09 PM
an irish man has elevated this sport like no man before him. he works hard and deserves to be where he is.
unlike boxing, take mayweather for example who does nothing only run around the ring, these guys actually kick the shit out of each other in the cage, you have to be in the right place mentally for that kind of thing. you have to be confident.
people spouted the same crap about Ali back in the day, "the Louisville Lip". be proud hes achieved what he has already and more luck to him.

I assume you don't follow boxing much then?

Mayweather is a defensive fighter, tries to avoid getting into an actual fight and hit his opponents with quick punches between running around and hugging. and its worked for him, but its BORING as f**k. the Joshua/Whyte fight Saturday night was good.
im comparing the physicality of MMA to boxing and the mentality needed, hence the trash talk, and it works!

You realise McGregor's KO on Saturday came from a counter punch, yes?

Mayweather carried the nickname Pretty Boy for years because of his ability not to get hit. He is a master. The fact you find it boring is irrelevant and the fact you imply you enjoy it because MMA lads "kick the shit out of each other" gives weight to the suggestion that many "fans" of mma are more interested in seeing a spectacle than a sport.

i know its irrelevant, and i agree with you, hes a master of not getting hit, 1) but it doesn't make it any less boring! the point is 2) MMA is more entertaining because there is more action! the sport IS a spectacle!! 3) what else do you want from sport other than entertainment!!? and it gives weight to nothing except people would prefer action to someone running around the ring like i said initially!!
are you another one that has followed MMA for years now and anyone new to the sport are "fans", and not just fans?!  ::)

1) In your opinion. I find his defensive skills and movement and ability to make fighters miss absolutely mesmerising.
2) Did you enjoy the Nelson-Maia fight? There wasn't much action in it.
3) It's what you define as entertainment that matters. If you get your kicks from the blood and guts going everywhere rather than the skill, technique and craftsmanship that leads to it, then there's something wrong with you and I would suggest you're more interested than the spectacle than the sport.

No, I'm not a fan. I have had a passing interest in it for years but don't really enjoy the wrestling and grappling side of things all that much. Also, I despise the pricks who in one breath talk about the explosion of MMA and how great McGregor and Rousey are for it and then in the next criticise "bandwagon fans" who are driving all the new hype. What I can't abide however is people who profess to be fans of the sport and could barely name you anyone beyond McGregor and whatever opponent he's facing at the time, many of whom appear to exist here in Ireland these days. For example, the absolute gang of walts who turned up at the Convention Centre press conference to abuse Aldo (a p4p king and ten year undefeated, undisputed champion) as a pussy etc. Or the "the new UFC featherweight of the championship" lad from the same event.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 01:48:11 PM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 02:07:39 PM
I know feck all about UFC or MMA, but I don't think Aldo was shitting himself. If anything he allowed McGregor to annoy him so much that he lunged in and a very clever counter punch absolutely nailed him.

In fact I'm not so sure that that fight would be any indicator to a rematch either. Aldo would surely be cleverer than to try that again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 02:15:39 PM
This fight could end up exposing some of the issues with the UFC as a promotion. Superstars like Anderson Silva, Cain Velasquez and Rousey get immediate rematches having been the victims of just as one sided or spectacular defeats as Aldo's (albeit significantly longer ones). Holly Holm has effectively been told that despite producing the most momentous result in UFC history (until yesterday perhaps) that she will wait until Ronda is good and ready before she can defend her belt again. Aldo has never been a huge pay per view draw and has never been a favourite, but considering his stature, you'd think he'd be entitled to the rematch. A fight at 145 with Edgar or a lightweight fight (they'll be praying Cerrone wins next week) will be bigger money for Dana and the Fertittas, so those will be the fights that are made.

On the "Aldo being afraid" bit - I assume people are inferring this because he looked at the ground and didn't raise is head during the intros. As I said earlier, it's something he's always done. His way of getting in the zone so to speak.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on December 14, 2015, 02:24:18 PM
Thought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 02:32:32 PM
Thought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.

Aye, that was scandalous. Weidman was done. He was covering his face so in theory defending himseld but for about 70 seconds he just got smashed by forearms, elbows and fists. By the time Rockhold had him again in the fourth I thought he was starting to pull the punches a bit to avoid doing any more damage until Dean stopped it.

Some big MMA media boys like Rogan going very easy on Dean I feel. He deserves plenty of criticisim for it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on December 14, 2015, 02:51:06 PM
1) In your opinion. I find his defensive skills and movement and ability to make fighters miss absolutely mesmerising.
2) Did you enjoy the Nelson-Maia fight? There wasn't much action in it.
3) It's what you define as entertainment that matters. If you get your kicks from the blood and guts going everywhere rather than the skill, technique and craftsmanship that leads to it, then there's something wrong with you and I would suggest you're more interested than the spectacle than the sport.

No, I'm not a fan. I have had a passing interest in it for years but don't really enjoy the wrestling and grappling side of things all that much. Also, I despise the pricks who in one breath talk about the explosion of MMA and how great McGregor and Rousey are for it and then in the next criticise "bandwagon fans" who are driving all the new hype. What I can't abide however is people who profess to be fans of the sport and could barely name you anyone beyond McGregor and whatever opponent he's facing at the time, many of whom appear to exist here in Ireland these days. For example, the absolute gang of walts who turned up at the Convention Centre press conference to abuse Aldo (a p4p king and ten year undefeated, undisputed champion) as a pussy etc. Or the "the new UFC featherweight of the championship" lad from the same event.
Jeez, I thought the Nelson-Maia fight was action packed.
From a viewing point of view it was greatly enhanced by the commentary. "Gunnar needs to do X to get out of this hold". Which Gunnar would then try and do, but everytime Maia had a countermove. Maia was very impressive.

I haven't been a big follower of UFC, I used to be a big follower of boxing. I watched every fight on the card on Saturday and the really refreshing thing was that pretty much every fighter there thought they could win. Which is so so different to a boxing card where mismatches are far more common than pick'ems.

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Thought Herb Dean should have stopped Weidman's fight in the 3rd round.The man took a hell of a lot of punishment in the final minute and I couldn't believe he didn't intervene.
You could see in the ref's face after the round that he knew he made a mistake. He stopped it as soon as Weidman got into trouble in the 4th. In the 3rd the ref was trying to give the champion the benefit. Knew the round was nearly up. But 10 seconds is a helluva long time when you are in Weidman's position and I'd bet the ref regrets it now.

The ref in the McGregor fight was very sharp. He was waving it off before Aldo hit the deck, although not fast enough to stop McGregor getting in a couple of extra digs. Funny thing in that one is that if it was under boxing rules, Aldo probably would have survived a 10 count. But you'd imagine it wouldnt have been long before he would have been decked again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on December 14, 2015, 02:53:45 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on December 14, 2015, 02:57:07 PM
The rule is you must be able to "intelligently defend yourself"
Terrible refereeing
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 14, 2015, 03:23:48 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

McGregor says he told Aldo they could go again and I think they will. At the end of the day the Champ was floored by a sucker punch. If they fight 50 times that happens once (McGregor admitted he expected it to take a bit longer) and I think the Public would be well up for a rematch as they know it should be much tighter than it was the other evening.

Either it's a rematch or he moves up a division! I definitely expect McGregor and Aldo to fight again but it might not be next year!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stew on December 14, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.

He lasted 13 seconds ffs, he is the MMA version of Leon Spinks which is sad because he was a tremendous champion, he was never ready to fight McGregor, never wanted to fight McGregor because McGregor got to him between the ears! His wife coming out and flapping her gums was music to McGregors ears.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 03:58:10 PM
Why do you think lasting 13 seconds has anything to do with whether he was afraid or not? He lost his cool and lunged at McGregor, because McGregor got in his head. If he was afraid he'd have tried to dance and get into some sort of clinch hold, or keep his distance and kick. The fact he dived in like a lunatic looked like he was over eager, and McGregor took advantage. At least that's how it looked to me, but I've no clue of this MMA stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:27:20 PM
Why do you think lasting 13 seconds has anything to do with whether he was afraid or not? He lost his cool and lunged at McGregor, because McGregor got in his head. If he was afraid he'd have tried to dance and get into some sort of clinch hold, or keep his distance and kick. The fact he dived in like a lunatic looked like he was over eager, and McGregor took advantage. At least that's how it looked to me, but I've no clue of this MMA stuff.

I have looked at the fight a few times, yes all 13 seconds of it, and Aldo connected with a decent punch, despite the handicap of being knocked out while throwing it. It is not too big a leap to suggest that Conor was wide open and if his own punch hadn't done the damage it did, things could have been very different. All of that happened in a split second.

Fine margins etc.

I don't know anything about Aldo. This could have a terrible effect on him, or he could be the type to come back and set the record straight.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on December 14, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on December 14, 2015, 04:40:13 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGY_fLBCsQ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on December 14, 2015, 04:45:53 PM
He looked off balance throwing it though. I'm not sure it would have had enough power to do damage. McGregor was expecting it and unloaded a counter perfectly. I think Aldo's punch landed before McGregor's, so I don't think he was knocked out when it landed.

Edit - Looked at it again, you're right. It was the right hand that McGregor countered. Aldo's left was going to land heavy if McGregor didn't spark him out.

https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc (https://youtu.be/LTit9mg_XOc)

It looked a decent punch even though he had already been hit with a knockout punch. If McGregor was slightly later, they could have both been knocked out! Apparently the rule for that is, the first man to stand up wins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGY_fLBCsQ

Rocky dived! Typical Italian.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
Prize fighting is about the gold - not always the gold belt but always the gold coin.  That's the prize.  That stack of gold coins get's bigger and bigger the more people buy the PPV or watch the fight on free TV.  It get's bigger the more people attend the event, stay at the hotels, spend money in the casinos and bars and clubs.  I think that only happens when you have a pulverizing figure to follow. How many would fly to Vegas for Norman Parke, Cathal Pendred or Joe Duffy? We don't want to see paint dry! We want spectactle, we want to be part of something bigger than ourselves - love him or hate you watch McGregor.

Outside of the cage he's the opposite.  He's the man at the post fight press conference.  Quiet, articulate, sometimes humble,  A family man, a hard worker and an extremely loyal friend.

Aldo was undefeated in 10 years - think about that. 10 years.  He rightly so has been recognized as the P4P #1 MMA fighter in the world. He has defeated decisively a who's who of the lighter divisions.
Against Cub Swanson (not an overly gifted fighter) Aldo got mad, he was over reaching in his punches, determined to inflict damage.  He fought sloppy (much like Rhonda against Holly Holm).  McGregor and his coaches know this.  They had to go after Aldo mentally, make him mad, make him sloppy. make him overreach in his punches.  It wasn't always nice to watch but the mental warfare of the past year worked.  Aldo was mad, he ran into McGregor and he caught him lovely but in doing so was wide open for the left hook to the chin.

I loved the fight, I loved the result and I'm proud of McGregor's achievements to date.  His supporters get a little carried away with themselves but that isn't his fault.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on December 14, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
I really dislike the trash-talk and to be honest I'm looking forward to his inevitable defeat down the line. He mightn't be so fond of seeing a microphone shoved in his face after that.

I don't see his attitude as new or refreshing, Ali started it years ago and now it seems to be the done thing for combat sports. It doesn't entertain me either, if it did I probably wouldn't even watch UFC I'd watch videos of tinkers calling each other out on Youtube. Winding people up/Being a w@nk shouldn't be part and parcel of being a respected sportsman, inevitably some gowl takes it too far like Tyson Fury and everyone just shrugs their shoulders because top boxers are expected to be controversial. The views guys like Fury espouse aren't okay.

Muppet I don't think it's something you want to see in GAA, we already have a mouthy WUM up on centre stage and he's far from a national treasure in the county of Mayo. Next time you Mayo boys take offence to Brolly calling you chokers or cheats I'll remind you of love for the braggadocio.

George Hook was right, pre-match interview are a waste of everyone's time. Supporters, interviewers, interviewees. Unless you know you're gonna get something different from the norm don't bother your hole. Journalists have column inches to fill though and pre-match interviews make acceptable manure filler.

Spot on, I don't understand why people think they need to hear trash talk to make a sport interesting. Whats the difference between using slabbering as a promotional tool and sledging? This is actually worse than sledging in IMO. Sledging is used to gain a competitive advantage, this carry on is used to generate money, which IMO is as vulgar and as distasteful as it gets.

Boxing has allowed it to be used as a promotional tool for a long time now in an attempt to try and stem the tide of its gradual 80 year demise. And while it gives small boosts to some fighters it has not stopped the overall decline in interest. I think because team sports have a legacy and tradition it is more adept at fulfilling the tribalism wants that many sports fan are yearning for. Anyway the result  for boxing has been to turn its image into a crude corrupt pantomime, even tho inside the ropes is still overall, more or less, as good as it has always has.

Do you lot really think that he does it for any other reasons than money and getting inside the head of his opponent? It is not personal, acting the arse wipe make him more marketable, expecially when he backs up everything he say's, and as for the second part, Aldo's wife was saying he is crazy and he agreed, tell me Aldo wasnt shitting himself the other night!

Aldo wasn't shitting himself the other night.

He lasted 13 seconds ffs, he is the MMA version of Leon Spinks which is sad because he was a tremendous champion, he was never ready to fight McGregor, never wanted to fight McGregor because McGregor got to him between the ears! His wife coming out and flapping her gums was music to McGregors ears.

What did Aldo's Mrs say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 14, 2015, 05:03:57 PM
Prize fighting is about the gold - not always the gold belt but always the gold coin.  That's the prize.  That stack of gold coins get's bigger and bigger the more people buy the PPV or watch the fight on free TV.  It get's bigger the more people attend the event, stay at the hotels, spend money in the casinos and bars and clubs.  I think that only happens when you have a pulverizing figure to follow. How many would fly to Vegas for Norman Parke, Cathal Pendred or Joe Duffy? We don't want to see paint dry! We want spectactle, we want to be part of something bigger than ourselves - love him or hate you watch McGregor.

Outside of the cage he's the opposite.  He's the man at the post fight press conference.  Quiet, articulate, sometimes humble,  A family man, a hard worker and an extremely loyal friend.

Aldo was undefeated in 10 years - think about that. 10 years.  He rightly so has been recognized as the P4P #1 MMA fighter in the world. He has defeated decisively a who's who of the lighter divisions.
Against Cub Swanson (not an overly gifted fighter) Aldo got mad, he was over reaching in his punches, determined to inflict damage.  He fought sloppy (much like Rhonda against Holly Holm).  McGregor and his coaches know this.  They had to go after Aldo mentally, make him mad, make him sloppy. make him overreach in his punches.  It wasn't always nice to watch but the mental warfare of the past year worked.  Aldo was mad, he ran into McGregor and he caught him lovely but in doing so was wide open for the left hook to the chin.

I loved the fight, I loved the result and I'm proud of McGregor's achievements to date.  His supporters get a little carried away with themselves but that isn't his fault.

Good post
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on December 14, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Prize fighting is about the gold - not always the gold belt but always the gold coin.  That's the prize.  That stack of gold coins get's bigger and bigger the more people buy the PPV or watch the fight on free TV.  It get's bigger the more people attend the event, stay at the hotels, spend money in the casinos and bars and clubs.  I think that only happens when you have a pulverizing figure to follow. How many would fly to Vegas for Norman Parke, Cathal Pendred or Joe Duffy? We don't want to see paint dry! We want spectactle, we want to be part of something bigger than ourselves - love him or hate you watch McGregor.

Outside of the cage he's the opposite.  He's the man at the post fight press conference.  Quiet, articulate, sometimes humble,  A family man, a hard worker and an extremely loyal friend.

Aldo was undefeated in 10 years - think about that. 10 years.  He rightly so has been recognized as the P4P #1 MMA fighter in the world. He has defeated decisively a who's who of the lighter divisions.
Against Cub Swanson (not an overly gifted fighter) Aldo got mad, he was over reaching in his punches, determined to inflict damage.  He fought sloppy (much like Rhonda against Holly Holm).  McGregor and his coaches know this.  They had to go after Aldo mentally, make him mad, make him sloppy. make him overreach in his punches.  It wasn't always nice to watch but the mental warfare of the past year worked.  Aldo was mad, he ran into McGregor and he caught him lovely but in doing so was wide open for the left hook to the chin.

I loved the fight, I loved the result and I'm proud of McGregor's achievements to date.  His supporters get a little carried away with themselves but that isn't his fault.

He's said in some interviews he needs an equal amount of haters as fans otherwise he won't pull the crowds to get the opportunities he wants. Definitely something he's recognised and made a point of harnessing!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on December 14, 2015, 05:15:49 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

I think Aldo should get the rematch before Edgar gets a chance. Until Saturday he was the only UFC featherweight champion ever and add in the way he lost, I think they need to respect what he has done for the past 10 odd years. Surely Dana will go with the potential of $$$$
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 05:26:50 PM
It's hard to know what will happen next for McGregor. Dana's absence later at the press conference is very telling - there is trouble there - a difference of opinion on whether or not Dana will allow McGregor to compete simultaneously at both weight classes (145 and 155).
There's some huge men and huge fights at 155.  I agree that Dana will not want to lose the $$$$ but I don't know if Aldo brings those. The smartest option is to protect McGregor somewhat. Match him against strikers. Match him against smaller 155'ers.  Fill Croke Park, make a couple of defenses and retire. 
There are a couple of stories worth pursuing.  Cowboy is a better fight for CMG - Cowboy can be baited - Nate Diaz proved that - then you have the Joe Duffy angle.  That's two fights to keep CMG busy for 2016 at 155lbs.  If DosAnjos wins that's a very bad match-up for McGregor and he'll stay at 145 and fight Edgar in Croker. 
The Faber Dillashaw story is also interesting. TJ beats Faber hands down - he is too good for him at this point. But Faber and McGregor have been chummy of late and TJ wants the super fight and could move up if he beats Cruz.
Lots of options as Conor says... great time to be him in the UFC
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 05:29:01 PM
surely they'll give a man of Aldo's standing a rematch?

The two options they've outlined are a defence against Edgar or move up to 155 for an immediate title shot against next week's winner. Harsh on Aldo.

I think Aldo should get the rematch before Edgar gets a chance. Until Saturday he was the only UFC featherweight champion ever and add in the way he lost, I think they need to respect what he has done for the past 10 odd years. Surely Dana will go with the potential of $$$$

I don't disagree but I don't think it'll happen unfortunately.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 07:41:09 PM
Recovery from injury aside, if he's fit, I think Cruz beats Dillashaw every time. His comeback last year after 3 years out was spectacular.

Edgar is a tough, tough fight for McGregor. I think it's the most likely option at this stage but it won't be in Croker. Too difficult to sell the mid afternoon pay per view to the States next summer when they'll also be asked to fork out for a huge UFC 200. McGregor-Edgar and Holm-Rousey 2 for 200 in the new arena in Vegas.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 07:58:14 PM
I don't know where the UFC makes the most money - but the gate in the MGM was $10million.  It think it holds less than 20,000.  Croke Park could surely hold 85,000 plus - so that might be enough of a draw.  I don't know if they would waste the drawing power of McGregor and Rousey on one card - might be wrong but I don't think they would.  The new casino might be the best bet but the Irish are only going to travel for so long. There's some loans out I'd say on the past two trips alone.

Who knows - its a good time regardless!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on December 14, 2015, 08:38:01 PM
Next summer will be the middle of championship season too. There are few enough free evenings unless you do it in June.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: foxcommander on December 14, 2015, 08:54:53 PM
He should go fight in wembley and take his poppies with him. Gaa shouldnt even consider letting him in the door.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 08:57:30 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: foxcommander on December 14, 2015, 09:00:40 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....

Sorry Ice - I don't have much time for him. Gaa should concentrate on their own sports than accommodating his fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 14, 2015, 09:21:53 PM
really? I'm surprised you have the time to comment what with all your efforts to free Ireland....

Sorry Ice - I don't have much time for him. Gaa should concentrate on their own sports than accommodating his fights.
Maybe they should but they like the coin too just as much as he does....  Peace
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on December 15, 2015, 02:30:06 PM
UFC 200 - I see that's noted down on UFC official website for Saturday July 9 in Las Vegas.

Do the UFC have this penned down as a big landmark event or do these numbers of their events mean nothing i.e. is 197 etc just as big?

Would consider booking flights shortly it if there was a good chance McGregor etc would be at it!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on December 15, 2015, 02:50:38 PM
UFC 200 - I see that's noted down on UFC official website for Saturday July 9 in Las Vegas.

Do the UFC have this penned down as a big landmark event or do these numbers of their events mean nothing i.e. is 197 etc just as big?

Would consider booking flights shortly it if there was a good chance McGregor etc would be at it!

Think they're making a big enough deal of it Rousey Holm rematch is on then AFAIK... talk of McGregor fighting then as well but nothing even close to confirmed I think they need word back on an injured wrist after the Aldo punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on December 15, 2015, 02:54:01 PM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gaffer on December 15, 2015, 11:15:28 PM



 Who was boxing  in the minors that day?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: give her dixie on December 15, 2015, 11:46:49 PM



Before coming to Ireland, Ali wanted to meet Bernadette McAliskey. A boxing club in Dublin got in contact
with Clonoe boxing club, and a friend of my fathers took Bernadette to meet Ali in Dublin when he was here.

The civil rights movement here resonated with him and what was going on in the US at the time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DennistheMenace on December 16, 2015, 09:13:09 AM
Fully expect McGregor to fight either Edgar or Cowboy. Personally i think Edgar at 145 gives him a much tougher fight.

As for the Aldo fight, it just shows what a good striker McGregor is. Aldo was the P4P best fighter in the business, the equivilent of Mayweather without the excitment and ago. In many ways I feel sorry for Aldo as there is no way he's getting a rematch, cash is king and the public are fatigued of Aldo v McGregor hype with well over a year of build up.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on December 16, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
ufc 200 will be huge - rousey holm will just be one of the marquee fights - they went big for ufc 100 and Dana will want to do more.
I would book tickets if you're hoping for a big event - no guarantee thought that McGregor will definitely be on the card.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: dec on December 16, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
UFC 200 Headliners Announced: McGregor Vs ISIS

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/12/14/ufc-200-headliners-announced-mcgregor-vs-isis/

THE UFC hasn’t waited long in announcing the follow up to Conor McGregor’s astonishing knockout of Jose Aldo, and the announcement brings an end to years of speculation.

“We’ve seen what Conor can do, and this was a fight we were always looking into, it was just a case of schedules lining up right together,” UFC CEO Dana White said, confirming that Notorious would face up against Caliphate enthusiasts ISIS.

“They’re pound for pound the best terrorist group operating in the world today, but they haven’t seen what Conor’s left hook can do. We’re excited, the box office will undoubtedly be a new record,” White added, before taking time out to drool on the amount of money the bout would make the UFC.

While this will be the first UFC bout to feature a terrorist organisation, rumours in MMA circles suggest the negotiations on the finer details of the fight and training camps were relatively hassle free and UFC 200’s main event has been among the easiest to negotiate.

“As far as training camps go, ISIS says they’re already operating several, they were desperate for the MGM Grand as it has always been a dream of theirs to fight in the US, but we’re going to the neutral ground of Switzerland,” White confirmed.

With the fight just freshly announced early bookie odds are making McGregor the overwhelming favourite at 1/300.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on December 20, 2015, 11:18:25 AM
Last night's main event lasted slightly longer than last week's!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 08, 2016, 03:50:54 AM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 08, 2016, 05:24:08 AM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate

This is set?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on January 12, 2016, 06:38:42 AM
What's the general price of a ticket to a UFC event? Are McGregors fights more expensive?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on January 12, 2016, 09:07:36 PM
McGregor vs Dos Anjos for the 155lb title happening on March 5th at UFC197. Co-main event with Holly Holm vs Meisha Tate

This is set?

Yes - https://twitter.com/UFC_Ireland/status/687017726083239937
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on February 23, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
Off now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 01:29:20 PM
Diaz to step in possibly or whole thing off?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 23, 2016, 02:46:14 PM
Cerrone possibly.

Absolutely gutted at this though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 03:39:55 PM
Cerrone possibly.

Absolutely gutted at this though.

Would be a joke if so. He got sparked in 66 seconds by RDA two months ago and fought at welter two days ago. Not too man obvious options though.

I've had a funny feeling about fight for a while - low key announcement press conference, relatively low level of media activity. Hasn't felt right at all so this is no surprise.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on February 23, 2016, 03:44:43 PM
Off now.
What reason has been given?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 23, 2016, 03:46:01 PM
Aye, seems a bit suss gallsman. 

It'll probably happen at UFC 200 now instead.

Broken foot is the reason.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.


The slagging will be some craic!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:23:28 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He’s said he wants it apparently though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:29:09 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He’s said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 04:33:06 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He’s said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?

They've happened, generally when someone misses weight. It would be mental for Cerrone to make 155. That and the fact he got KOd for the belt in 66 seconds really should rule him out of a fight of this magnitude.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 04:36:28 PM
Not sure what to make of this. The build up has been very quiet. I don't know how many Irish had planned to make the trip - if a lot I think McGregor stays on the card to keep the fans happy and get paid.
he will be fighting on on UFC 200 regardless and if he is healthy now then take a fight. Diaz should be able to step in at 170 on 2 weeks notice. Cerrone isn't a smart fight he will take CMG down, Diaz wont  - he will try to stand and box and has the hands to do so....
never a dull moment.

It's a 155lb fight though. Or it was. Can't imagine McGregor wants to go too much higher. Cerrone fought at 170 a few days ago – a cut to 155 would be horrific. He’s said he wants it apparently though.

Catch weights exist in UFC?

They've happened, generally when someone misses weight. It would be mental for Cerrone to make 155. That and the fact he got KOd for the belt in 66 seconds really should rule him out of a fight of this magnitude.

1 final pay day! $500k possibly?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on February 23, 2016, 04:42:23 PM
Seems Anthony pettis now would be interested judging by what he has said on twitter, even though he is off two loses think he would make a better fight..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 04:44:52 PM
whoever gets the fight will make a flat fee like Chad Mendes got when he stepped in for Jose Aldo.
I don't think CMG wants Cerrone - Cerrone can really wrestle and he is long for the weight - CMG did well with Mendes because of his range advantage and length on the ground
Diaz although a whizz on the ground will stand and trade with CMG
Pettis would be a good option as he prefers to stand-  I think CMG beats him
Who knows what the UFC will do but you can bet CMG has a big say in the opponent....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 23, 2016, 05:20:25 PM
Supposedly broken 5th metatarsal or a broken baby toe...something tells me McGregor will be at the oul slaggin'!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 23, 2016, 05:54:26 PM
Pettis is on medical suspension I believe. Took a bit of a pasting from Alvarez.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 23, 2016, 10:19:50 PM
Looking like Diaz!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 23, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
he's top of the list  -i just hope he isn't stupid and holds out for more money when they are likely offering him 15 times his normal purse
Cerrone said he is already cutting weight - 2 weeks is plenty of time for an athlete like him - his only weakness is his stomach - he has internal injuries that affect his ability to take solid contact there - RDA showed it - Pettis showed it - CMG could show it too if he stayed off the ground.  In Cerrone's last fight he immediately went to the ground because the other "cowboy" was getting the better of him in the standup.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 06:39:13 AM
Diaz it is. How's that going to work out for McGregor?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2016, 08:33:17 AM
Are they fighting at 170??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 24, 2016, 08:35:59 AM
Are they fighting at 170??

Yep. Apparently proposal was originally 160 but Diaz said he couldn't make that in 11 days and said 165, which McGregor responded to by saying have it at 170.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on February 24, 2016, 08:43:16 AM
Great fight, keeps the interest high.  The build up will be good as both engage in the trash talking.  RDA tried to avoid that, cant see Nate taking the same approach.  Roll on fight night
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TF15 on February 24, 2016, 10:04:43 AM
Surely there will be a rehydration limit imposed, McGregor would have walked into the octagon at 170 fighting at 155 but surely Diaz coukdnt land in at 185 if he wanted? Feel for McGregor having this change of plan again and hope it doesn't cause a loss. I can't see how Conor goes back to 145 after this to fight Edgar. The weight cut will be brutal for him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 24, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
The build-up alone to this fight is gonna be immense!

Can't wait!

Kavanagh has came out with the best line so far "You've seen him on salads, no wait to see him on steak."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on February 24, 2016, 12:36:43 PM
The build-up alone to this fight is gonna be immense!

Can't wait!


Kavanagh has came out with the best line so far "You've seen him on salads, no wait to see him on steak."

It's next Saturday night. Not a lot of time for that stuff.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on February 24, 2016, 12:40:45 PM
Press conference today apparently. They can't wait to get the two lads spouting their mixed metaphors at each other.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 03:06:37 PM
I'd say Diaz is about 185 right now if he was willing to cut to 165. I think CMG is taking a risk even with those extra 5lbs. I would have forced Diaz to cut the weight if he wanted the money.
I don't think Diaz has ever been KO'd? Maybe 1 stoppage by TKO but of late he has been very durable.  His reach advantage will give mcgregor trouble and he has great boxing skills.  He doesnt kick that much and when he does theres nothing behind them so look for Mcgregor to use a lot of kicks to maintain range and keep diaz thinking
Diaz is an elite BJJ black belt if he clinches with Conor and brings him to the mat this will be over fast - big risk - fair play they both took the fight - I'll go with Diaz on this one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on February 24, 2016, 03:29:17 PM
Aye, just the one TKO a few years back.

It'll be a very good scrap. As you say, both like to box.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 05:32:16 PM
So how is this new weight going to affect McGregor? I've heard and read the original step up to 155 was going to be hard, what's it going to be like at 170?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 05:35:31 PM
I think he will be fine with the weight in this instance. Diaz is a 155'er. He tried campaigning at 170 but the lads there were too strong for him - he is a natural 155'er like McGregor.
dana should not allow him to compete at 170 after this though. - the money fights are at 155 and 145

what was very telling in all of this was the fact that Aldo turned the fight down at 155 or any weight....
Frankie Edgar had a groin strain but I thought he would have battled through it....

Lots of people tried to get the fight but when it comes to ticket sales Diaz was definitely the best choice. It's an intriguing fight with two guys with huge fan bases...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on February 24, 2016, 05:37:48 PM
I think he will be fine with the weight in this instance. Diaz is a 155'er. He tried campaigning at 170 but the lads there were too strong for him - he is a natural 155'er like McGregor.
dana should not allow him to compete at 170 after this though. - the money fights are at 155 and 145

what was very telling in all of this was the fact that Aldo turned the fight down at 155 or any weight....
Frankie Edgar had a groin strain but I thought he would have battled through it....

Lots of people tried to get the fight but when it comes to ticket sales Diaz was definitely the best choice. It's an intriguing fight with two guys with huge fan bases...

Frankie isn't happy with Dana after what he said about him turning the fight down.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on February 24, 2016, 08:58:58 PM
McGregor Diaz press conference on UFC.com starts at 9pm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on February 24, 2016, 09:09:38 PM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/24/11107144/ufc-196-press-conference-video (http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/24/11107144/ufc-196-press-conference-video)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on February 25, 2016, 06:24:46 AM
Diaz can hardly string a sentence together. McGregor didn't like it when he was accused of taking drugs. Got wound up by that and rightly so.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 01, 2016, 10:52:29 PM
This is the lad behind all the bravado that you'll find anytime the camera's aren't rolling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ)

He's all about the gold coin like I've said many times before. And he's raking it in - fair play to him I say
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 02, 2016, 02:34:37 PM
This is the lad behind all the bravado that you'll find anytime the camera's aren't rolling:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_ZofBjfcDQ)

He's all about the gold coin like I've said many times before. And he's raking it in - fair play to him I say

But the Camera is rolling :) This is just more PR.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 02, 2016, 04:56:56 PM
I'm comparing his personality and attitude here to when it isn't.....
I'm saying this is what he is like normally.  He says loads of stuff to get bums on seats and sell PPVs but he's a good lad.  He understands the prize fighting game, the showmanship.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 03, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
You reckon McGregor will be beat Iceman if Diaz gets him on the mat? Interesting, bookies have him at 2/7 but what would they know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 03, 2016, 11:31:28 AM
Almost no chance of this fight going near the mat I imagine. Diaz is a very, very good boxer. He's also a lunatic who loves a brawl. I think he'll come out and meet McGregor in the middle right from the bell.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 03, 2016, 06:42:01 PM
I hope for McGregors sake thats exactly what Diaz does.  The thing with these elite BJJ guys is they don't have the wrestling or judo background to take the fight to the ground.  Diaz has some trips and hip throw's from the clinch and can use the fence well but if he can't get McGregor to the ground then this will obviously be decided standing up....

Diaz trains with some elite fighters, his boxing is top drawer and he easily owns the ground in the this matchup.

The key to victory for McGregor will be timing and accuracy - he has been sparring and training to fight - Diaz has not.  I don't think Cardio comes in to play here.
the big question for me is which Diaz shows up? The Diaz who got eaten alive by RDA or the Diaz who sent Michael Johnson packing and beat arguably one of the best stand-up fighters in the 155lb division  - Donald Cerrone...

Diaz is a good bet.

The bookies also had Holly Holm as a massive underdog and look what happened there.

With a full camp and injury free I would have my money on Diaz every time and I'm a big McGregor fan!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 03, 2016, 10:45:13 PM
Diaz was training for a marathon out triathlon or something I read when he got the call. He's always kept himself in shape so cardio shouldn't be an issue for him. I don't think the fight goes beyond the 2nd though, so cardio definitely isn't going to matter!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 03, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Diaz looked an alarmingly bigger man at the face off earlier
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 04, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Diaz 3/1 with PP??

Surely that's worth a punt especially given the size differential!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on March 04, 2016, 01:20:20 PM
Diaz 3/1 with PP??

Surely that's worth a punt especially given the size differential!

Aye but McGregor has busted his right hand don't you know!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 04, 2016, 01:24:40 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Declan on March 04, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTzhVVIjLCE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTzhVVIjLCE)

Some craic
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 04, 2016, 02:25:30 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!

For a lad who comes across as quite simple, Diaz had the best line of the night with "playing touch butt in the park with that dork with the ponytail" when talking about Ido Portal. McGregor was very good too with less babbling than usual.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 04, 2016, 04:04:20 PM
Nate is good craic, however the lad must have an IQ of about 5.

His comment about the gazelle was class  ;D ;D

I can see this going to the 3rd, Diaz is a scrapper!

For a lad who comes across as quite simple, Diaz had the best line of the night with "playing touch butt in the park with that dork with the ponytail" when talking about Ido Portal. McGregor was very good too with less babbling than usual.
It's all persona. A protection mechanism for where he lives. I don't know of too many elite athletes who are simple or stupid... Diaz is a laugh - his one liner definitely stole the show you're right. I like both Diaz brothers.
Can't wait for the weigh ins to see what kind of shape Diaz is in and for the actual fight to see if Nate is injured or capable. If Diaz is in shape and not injured that 3/1 bet is a great one....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 04, 2016, 08:17:32 PM
What time will this be on
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 04, 2016, 08:20:48 PM
10pm EST 3am GMT card starts - I'd say the fight is on at 5am or later Sunday morning  - Ireland time
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 04, 2016, 08:51:24 PM
Yeah, at 193 the Weidman-Rockhold fight didn't start until after 5 Irish time so McGregor fight could be closer to 6.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 05, 2016, 12:37:53 AM
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/4/11144534/ufc-196-weigh-in-video (http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/3/4/11144534/ufc-196-weigh-in-video)

Link to the weighins if anyone's interested - just over there.

diaz weighed in with Abs... he's in shape and fired up.

CMG weighs in 2lbs under the limit - fired up and ready to fight.....
i'ts gnnna be good!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 02:54:54 PM
Did someone say Diaz has a rep for trash talk? He can hardly talk never mind trash talk. McGregor is hilarious and is really starting to wind Diaz up like on that CNBC interview. All Diaz can say is 'f**k you'.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 05, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
that CNBC "interview" was the stupidest thing I've ever seen
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 05, 2016, 07:12:57 PM
Did someone say Diaz has a rep for trash talk? He can hardly talk never mind trash talk. McGregor is hilarious and is really starting to wind Diaz up like on that CNBC interview. All Diaz can say is 'f**k you'.

That's very subjective. A lot of what McGregor says his often moronic and repetitive, although he has become more polished. As said above, Diaz probably had the best line of the press conference. I also get the sense that he actually means it all the countless times he says he doesn't give a f**k!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 07:54:42 PM
It is very subjective but I don't take it seriously at all. I'm not even a big fan of ufc but I like trash talkers and find them entertaining. McGregor is a very good trash talker and sells fights like no other. Fair played to the fella, he's made a fortune from bringing a bit of entertainment to things. i was a bit fan of the Rock and stone cold etc back in the day and McGregor reminds me of that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 05, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
that CNBC "interview" was the stupidest thing I've ever seen
It was very stupid but I found it funny.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gold on March 06, 2016, 12:30:02 AM
"How about that coffee? "  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 05:19:01 AM
Just got up for this fight... better be good!! :-*
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 06, 2016, 05:33:23 AM
Just got up for this fight... better be good!! :-*
+1!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2016, 05:36:13 AM
Holly Holm beat Rousey well then beaten tonight by Tate who was well beaten by Rousey.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 05:44:42 AM
Holly Holm beat Rousey well then beaten tonight by Tate who was well beaten by Rousey.

Was very sloppy by Holm to get caught so late as Tate's takedown attempts were getting very desperate. Great choke though and took serious skill and strength to hold it when Holly tried to flip her.

Dana will be delighted as they'll much prefer Rousey to come back and take belt from Tate rather than Holm.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 05:46:47 AM
I've got my popcorn ready! C'mon mysticMac! Let's go champ! ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: reddgnhand on March 06, 2016, 05:52:53 AM
Not into this shite up with the son but did the poppy wearing Irishman come into the arena to the tune of foggy dew. I've had a few.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: reddgnhand on March 06, 2016, 06:03:34 AM
Must have been hit with a long range gun.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2016, 06:06:28 AM
Great fight!

McGregor will do well to talk his way out of this one!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2016, 06:06:32 AM
McGregor didn't live up to his hype tonight. Foolish to more up the weights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on March 06, 2016, 06:07:38 AM
Diaz is a tight man.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 06:13:04 AM
The train slams to a halt  :-\
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 06:15:05 AM
So what's the next bandwagon then lads?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: stiffler on March 06, 2016, 06:16:30 AM
Bullshit can only bring you so far.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 08:08:57 AM
So what's the next bandwagon then lads?
Euros too far away? May put this one back in the garage for repairs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:36:06 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 06, 2016, 08:50:52 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Are you calling him out?  ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 08:57:36 AM
Interesting that McGregor tapped out while Holly Holm didn't!
Are you calling him out?  ;D

 ;D Pretty much. I'd never slag a fighter off for tapping out but I have a vague memory of him saying he'd never tap out again after a defeat a few years ago. I know it's all bollocks anyway but it's interesting that Holly Holm was prepared to go unconscious rather than tap.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:07:39 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:12:02 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 09:16:08 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage.

I seriously wasn't having a go! I think McGregor is great but you have to acknowledge the efforts of a woman who is prepared to let herself go unconscious than tap out. I just found the comparison interesting, especially given what McGregor has said in the past.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 06, 2016, 09:24:45 AM
That's a seriously brutal sport.  Did mcgregor take the foot off the gas in the 2nd thinking it was in the bag and let his guard down? That left on the chin was a clinker

How any man can question any of those hooers tapping out beggars belief! 

Is it a macho thing to not wipe the blood away during rounds?

I wasn't questioning it. I just said, he tapped out and Holm didn't!

Mon now,  you were having a go. Those boys are brave to a point being buck mad.   That's the 2nd ufc fight I've watched and will be prob be my last,  too frigging savage.

I seriously wasn't having a go! I think McGregor is great but you have to acknowledge the efforts of a woman who is prepared to let herself go unconscious than tap out. I just found the comparison interesting, especially given what McGregor has said in the past.

Fair enough.  I watched that Holm fight as well,    didn't know that was allowed.  Barbaric
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: HiMucker on March 06, 2016, 09:25:22 AM
Holly Holm was definitely trying to tap out. 
Mc Gregor was in complete control up to point he got rocked with a big left.  His legs went and to be honest I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did after that.  I think Diaz was also wrecked or would have been able to finish it straight away after nailing him. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 09:58:44 AM
I'd say Diaz is about 185 right now if he was willing to cut to 165. I think CMG is taking a risk even with those extra 5lbs. I would have forced Diaz to cut the weight if he wanted the money.
I don't think Diaz has ever been KO'd? Maybe 1 stoppage by TKO but of late he has been very durable.  His reach advantage will give mcgregor trouble and he has great boxing skills.  He doesnt kick that much and when he does theres nothing behind them so look for Mcgregor to use a lot of kicks to maintain range and keep diaz thinking
Diaz is an elite BJJ black belt if he clinches with Conor and brings him to the mat this will be over fast - big risk - fair play they both took the fight - I'll go with Diaz on this one
Iceman called it all last week. Fair play.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Angus on March 06, 2016, 10:01:02 AM
What happened between McGregor and Diaz was really a shock to everyone. Though, Diaz' size is really an advantage.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on March 06, 2016, 10:13:34 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
What happened between McGregor and Diaz was really a shock to everyone. Though, Diaz' size is really an advantage.

Not really, it was called on here and in plenty of other places that if it went to the mat, it was Diaz's fight.

Long term, McGregor will have to forget about Robbie Lawler and most likely an immediate LW title shot. He'll probably be forced to make the cut to FW again to fight Edgar at 200 (which I don't think he'd ever planned on) before getting any sort of look at LW. If he vacates, he'll have to take and win a few at LW (Poirier rematch maybe?) before getting a shot.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 11:32:58 AM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 06, 2016, 11:44:41 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Aldo tweeted
 "See ya at #UFC200, @TheNotoriousMMA. Your fairy tale is over. You got nowhere to run now. Time to a rematch, p***y."

McGregor said:
"He had an opportunity to show up here and he didn't... he could be sitting where Nate is sitting right now. He said any time, any place, anywhere and then it wasn't any time, any place, anywhere.
"Now another man gets a victory over me and he celebrates it, that's the sign of a loser, that's the sign of a runner-up... that's not the sign of a champion."
"I know there's a lot of people celebrating this, celebrating another man's victory. I cannot understand that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 06, 2016, 11:47:31 AM
Fighter reactions to Conor McGregor vs Nate Diaz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYnzuyhcZJA
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: trileacman on March 06, 2016, 11:56:39 AM
I think post-fight McGregor once again showed a lot of class. His comments about the Aldo tweet made Aldo look pretty pathetic.

To be fair, he has always been magnanimous in victory and took the defeat with class.  Missed that about Aldo, what did he say?
Aldo tweeted
 "See ya at #UFC200, @TheNotoriousMMA. Your fairy tale is over. You got nowhere to run now. Time to a rematch, p***y."

McGregor said:
"He had an opportunity to show up here and he didn't... he could be sitting where Nate is sitting right now. He said any time, any place, anywhere and then it wasn't any time, any place, anywhere.
"Now another man gets a victory over me and he celebrates it, that's the sign of a loser, that's the sign of a runner-up... that's not the sign of a champion."
"I know there's a lot of people celebrating this, celebrating another man's victory. I cannot understand that.
People like to see you beat because you're a mouth. McGregor not "understanding" the fact people don't like him is like Ricey wondering what he ever did to annoy people.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: imtommygunn on March 06, 2016, 12:02:52 PM
I think mcgregor is right here though...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: TF15 on March 06, 2016, 12:45:45 PM
When McGregor reflects on his life from a few years ago I'm sure it'll soften the blow. He's no longer on the dole aspiring to fight in the UFC. He's a multi millionaire who is still champion at 145.

His confidence was ultimately his downfall. It was foolish to take the fight not making Diaz cut any weight. He gave Diaz maximum opportunity to perform to his best. Whileeee was noble it was foolish as he was moving up a weight class. Diaz size and reach advantage had a massive advantage as McGregor had to look inside for uppercuts rather than straight shots as Diaz reach was beating him to the punch. Also, McGregors power clearly didn't carry the same effectiveness at the higher weight. Diaz never looked dazed or in trouble.

Lastly, McGregor rated his chin too highly. Standing and trading with a naturally bigger man with little to no defence is career suicide. He can do it at 145 as the shots don't trouble him but with bigger men you can't do that.

A humbling night for McGregor, how this affects his persona/mind games/mystique will be interesting. If I'm him I stay at 145 for as long as he can physically make weight. Weight classes in MMA are much more difficult to jump than in boxing and should be respected.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 06, 2016, 01:42:59 PM
I think mcgregor is right here though...

Definitely. Aldo issued a ridiculous statement in January and then backed away when he got the call. To subsequently come out with that was a bit sad and desperate.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on March 06, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: fearsiuil on March 06, 2016, 04:38:46 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 06, 2016, 05:03:16 PM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.

Yip PP had him at that. I thought McGregor would win but Diaz definitely not 3/1.

McGregors next move will be interesting... Will he still be able to do all the trash talking?? Surely his street cred is blown with this loss!!

Maybe he'll go away and learn to put his hands up rather than concentrating on movement so much!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on March 06, 2016, 05:43:23 PM
Its a serious kick in the bollox for Mc Gregor.

Diaz had practically no preparation for this fight. If Mc Gregor lost against a Diaz backed full camp then you'd say fair enough.

Diaz is a an average  MMA fighter. He's had more defeats then anyone who could be deemed to be a top fighter.

Dos Anjos will knock him out

This was a PR disaster for Mc Gregor  make no mistake about it.

He now has to slum it back in the featherweight division for one more fight at least and wait. I doubt very much he'll get a tilt at Dos Anjos before he fights either Cerrone or Pettis first. He'll hammer anyone in the featherweight division but all lightweights will fancy their chances now. lightweight is by far the most competitive weight class in the MMA.

He's at least 12 months away from a lightweight title shot and probably longer really.

Don't be fooled that Diaz is some brilliant MMA fighter. He's not- he's average on his best day. Mc Gregor never hurt him really - Diaz rocked Mc Gregor a couple of times.

I've nothing against Mc Gregor- trash talking is part of the fight game and always has been. Problem is when you take it it extremes you need to win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on March 07, 2016, 08:11:27 AM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
I know Diaz was 18/1 to win in R1, because I had a tenner on it!
I think he was more than 20/1 to win in R2

I don't think this is as big a setback for McGregor as some are making out. The next one is the big one, and he'll still be a star attraction at UFC200. If he wins that he'll be back on track and Diaz will be put well behind him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 09:09:50 AM
Fair play to iceman. Called it well.
+1
Did someone post that Diaz could be got pre fight at 3/1? Didn't take it as no idea about this MMA.
I know Diaz was 18/1 to win in R1, because I had a tenner on it!
I think he was more than 20/1 to win in R2

I don't think this is as big a setback for McGregor as some are making out. The next one is the big one, and he'll still be a star attraction at UFC200. If he wins that he'll be back on track and Diaz will be put well behind him.

Not so much. I'd put plenty of money on idea that if McGregor has KOd him, they'd skip dos Anjos and the LW belt altogether (for now) and give him Lawler at UFC 200. If this was the case, you could pretty much be certain that he wouldn't be seen at 145 again.

Now he has to go back to 145 (facing a cut he admits is tough, after having packed on a few lbs of muscle and Kavanagh is on record as saying he doesn't want him doing again) and face Edgar or Aldo. Either of them will give him a tough fight (like Saturday, especially if they get him on the ground). If he wins, assuming he still wants LW belt, he'll have to wait his turn and probably take a few contender fights against the likes of Pettis, Cerrone or Alvarez before getting a title shot. The WW dream is over. Lawler actually laughs in title fights when big welters hit him flush on the chin. He would walk through McGregor's best much more easily than Diaz did.

He's still FW champion and has plenty going for him, but make no mistake, Saturday is a huge setback. Most importantly, it likely somewhat diminishes how much he can bully Dana and the Fertittas.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 09:34:53 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the tapping/not tapping thing and I certainly wouldn't hold it against McGregor that he did. In saying that however, I very much doubt it was a conscious decision to allow him to avoid a medical suspension. He was getting the life choked out of him - consciously thinking about anything other than how or where to draw your next breath would be madness. Even with Holm's refusal to tap, I'm not so sure she wasn't trying to. Those little air punches right before she passed out were very strange to watch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:08:12 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laceer on March 07, 2016, 10:15:09 AM
Very exciting and brutal fight. McGregor had Diaz badly opened up from early on - he was catching him regularly but where a smaller man might have gone down to those shots, Diaz brushed them off. When McGregor tried to take him to the ground you just knew he was gone. Looking forward to seeing his next move, and whether he calms down on the trash talking.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 10:20:48 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".

I wouldn't pay too much attention to the tapping/not tapping thing and I certainly wouldn't hold it against McGregor that he did. In saying that however, I very much doubt it was a conscious decision to allow him to avoid a medical suspension. He was getting the life choked out of him - consciously thinking about anything other than how or where to draw your next breath would be madness. Even with Holm's refusal to tap, I'm not so sure she wasn't trying to. Those little air punches right before she passed out were very strange to watch.

Yeah, I definitely think Holm was trying to tap out too.  Was hard to watch for a minute or so until you seen her getting back on her feet.  Tate even looked worried.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 10:21:27 AM
Very exciting and brutal fight. McGregor had Diaz badly opened up from early on - he was catching him regularly but where a smaller man might have gone down to those shots, Diaz brushed them off. When McGregor tried to take him to the ground you just knew he was gone. Looking forward to seeing his next move, and whether he calms down on the trash talking.

Yeah, that was just sheer desperation as he realised he couldn't make it to the end of the round without taking another big shot. It was almost laughable how easily Diaz stuffed the attempt and once McGregor was on the mat it was over.

What was infuriating for me was that McGregor obviously got rocked with about two and half mins to go and managed to recover somewhat. They clinched against the cage and traded a few knees but McGregor seemed to have recovered and on the break got some lovely combos in. After this, rather than heeding the warning of the shot he took, he continued keeping his hands low and Diaz got another big shot in, which effectively ended the fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.

I was thinking McGregor wouldn't be too much higher than 170 but was wondering if Diaz was as heavy as 180.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 11:12:01 AM
What weight would McGregor and Diaz have been coming in at on the night?

I'd say McGregor not too far above the 168 he weighed in at, maybe put a pound or two on. Dunno about Diaz.

I was thinking McGregor wouldn't be too much higher than 170 but was wondering if Diaz was as heavy as 180.

He's a big lightweight but not a huge welter. Didn't look too dehydrated at weigh in and think he came in at 169? Would be strange to lose the extra pound if struggling to make weight. Heavier than McGregor certainly but I don't think he'd have been as high as 180.

Weight is an interesting point, because McGregor looked banjaxed even before he got hit. He talked about energy efficiency at press conference but missing punches and kicks is part and parcel of fighting. He shouldn't have gassed so quickly, so the decision to go all the way to 170 when it want necessary looks even more foolish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on March 07, 2016, 11:19:13 AM
Good call Iceman. Looking forward to your assessment on here!

Gonna take the chance and book Vegas for UFC200 July 9th in the next week or two with a few other men, McGregor bound to be on the card? Going by the UFC Fan websites & social media, it's gonna be Edgar or Aldo at FW?

Last July was my 1st time in LV which I suppose was always gonig to be good regardless of the fight, but it was the best week of our lives which has to be repeated this year!!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 11:22:06 AM
Mc Gregor seemed to be gassed a minute into the second round which is unlike him, unsure if it was the weight or what? I dont think he is done at this level and will come back surely as still fairly young at 27 but yes a setback for sure. personally think 155 is a good level for him but he will have to drop again to 145 to fight aldo which after being at this weigh will be very hard..
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 11:37:16 AM
Mc Gregor seemed to be gassed a minute into the second round which is unlike him, unsure if it was the weight or what? I dont think he is done at this level and will come back surely as still fairly young at 27 but yes a setback for sure. personally think 155 is a good level for him but he will have to drop again to 145 to fight aldo which after being at this weigh will be very hard..

LW should be fine but the idea that he can complete at WW should be forgotten about immediately.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: rosnarun on March 07, 2016, 11:45:43 AM
Bit of talk earlier about him tapping out whilst Holm didn't.

Is it not the case that because he tapped out he can fight again quicker whereas Holm will have to wait out an injury period?

Sensible approach.

Anyways, as a wise man once said, "you can't grow muscles on your chin".
true
he who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 12:34:35 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on March 07, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close.
Ah, but when he's fighting at FW, he isn't fighting blown up flyweights, he's generally fighting other featherweights.
Although I'd say he's going to find it incredibly tough to get to 145 next time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 12:54:09 PM
I love McGregor, but I find myself using the argument that he lost because he was fighting a bigger man, but then the neutral in me is saying that while that is true it is also the case for McGregor in nearly all of his victories as he has had basically the same advantage over his opponents that Diaz had over him. 

As for Aldo, his comment is cringeworthy.  I also don't see why he should get a rematch as its not as if the first fight was close.

Because he was a champion who went ten years unbeaten and, like can happen, got caught with one punch. That's more than enough reason.

155 is McGregor's home. Diaz is a 155 fighter who has fought at welter. He's not a true welter. He's naturally the bigger man, but not to the extent you'd say it was an insurmountable difference.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 07, 2016, 12:55:29 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 12:55:58 PM
So the question remains, how would McGregor have faired against RDA?

From what I saw from their fight RDA took Diaz apart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on March 07, 2016, 12:57:25 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
I'd say we'll see less muscle ups and hopping over sticks in training from now on, won't surprise me if Ido Portal lad is thrown under a bus.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 01:15:32 PM
The major alarm for McGregor - and therefore flag for all future opponents - was his lack of ju jitsu nous under pressure. Looking for the mat was a desperate act to see the end of the round but Diaz submitted him in three moves.
I'd say we'll see less muscle ups and hopping over sticks in training from now on, won't surprise me if Ido Portal lad is thrown under a bus.

Not so sure of that. Don't think McGregor being a cocky b**tard who refuses to put his hands up is attributable to Portal.

The fact he can't wrestle is not news. Mendes absolutely dominated him on the ground in their fight and Diaz has genuinely world class BJJ. If the fight ended on the ground it was only ever going one way. Gunnar Nelson is the BJJ star out of SBJ (he's good, too, perhaps because he trained elsewhere) and he was shown up badly against Maia in December. Don't know much about Kavanagh's qualifications as a BJJ coach but I'd be skeptical of anyone claiming a high belt off him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 07, 2016, 01:34:25 PM
I think just for future fight Mc Gregor does need to do more training so that if it does go to the mat he has more confidence as opponents will see it as a weakness, I'm not saying he has to be great there as everyone has their strenghs but just at the moment he does struggle there.

In saying that he took the risk and it didnt work out, still a great fighter and at 155 against Diaz could be very different.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on March 07, 2016, 02:53:06 PM
enjoyed this comment from thejournal.ie

"I’m anything but a fan, but I’m not blind to his outstanding talent, and in my humble opinion he had that fight in the bag up to the point where he walked into those two big punches, after which I feel Ryan Tubridy would have taken him down."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on March 07, 2016, 03:15:03 PM
I think just for future fight Mc Gregor does need to do more training so that if it does go to the mat he has more confidence as opponents will see it as a weakness, I'm not saying he has to be great there as everyone has their strenghs but just at the moment he does struggle there.

In saying that he took the risk and it didnt work out, still a great fighter and at 155 against Diaz could be very different.

I imagine that McGregor does a lot of training on the floor as he and Kavanagh are aware of his weak points, which makes the speed of his submission on Saturday all the more shocking. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 03:40:22 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on March 07, 2016, 04:05:27 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:18:24 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:27:55 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision after the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on March 07, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
I don't think there is anywhere else on earth with as many MMA/UFC experts as Ireland and in particular the gaaboard  ;)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 07, 2016, 04:29:28 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman)

It's funny Gs man - MMA and promotions like the UFC were like a secret club.  I started training MMA in Uni over 14 years ago. We would train in clubs and peoples garages and wherever we could. I got the shit kicked out of me most weeks but I gave back a fair few beatings too and loved it all. I was never a world beater.  You know what we're all like growing up. Having an edge if you ever get in a scrap is key.  An average man who knows how to take a fight to the ground and beat a man there all of a sudden moves up the street fighting rankings.... I never went looking for fights but enjoyed knowing I could handle it if anything happened. I loved the training, the competition.... the exclusivity. 
I think a lot of early fans feel the same.  As the sport gained momentum more people were trained and more people were fans..... fight club wasn't fight club any more- but it's all good.

I'm happy to see the promotions get popular and the fighters getting paid at long last. Locally (back home) I know a fair amount of older fighters and coaches and hear regularly about the talent coming through.  I'm hoping more and more Irish fighters step up.  I don't have anything against SBG but I think they get more credit as a gym than they might deserve.... the only real talent to come out of there is CMG and he had talent before he joined the gym.  there are a lot of unsung heroes and pioneers of irish mma.  fighters like Davey Patterson who coaches still or Rodney Moore from Ballymena and Tom Lamont who were fighting all over the world for small money and little to no exposure.  Try to youtube those guys for some exciting old school fights...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:30:11 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:31:58 PM
I don't think there is anywhere else on earth with as many MMA/UFC experts as Ireland and in particular the gaaboard  ;)

Treat yourself to the boards.ie threats about it. I'll happily admit I'm no expert, just watch a bit of the stuff!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 07, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?

Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour is great. Pain the arse as 3 hours long every week but he always has top notch guests who give real insight into things. RDA and Kavanagh will be on it today.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 07, 2016, 04:38:17 PM
Very good synopsis Iceman.

You seem to be well up on it.  You do any MMA yourself?

Being fairly new to the sport (albeit I got into it only just before the McGregor juggernaut) it sickens my hole when lads who may have been into MMA for a while patronise others who may have only got into it when McGregor came on the scene.  People have to start somewhere, and at the end of the day, the increased viewing figures / participation rates are only gonna benefit the sport.  So fair play to you for posting up some very knowledgeable insight on here, without the patronising tone. (Same for Gallsman) 

Agree with the above. Have learnt loads from here and listening to the Joe Rogan podcasts/interviews on youtube.

Can anyone give their thoughts on how McGregor would have faired against RDA, based on the fact RDA took Diaz apart.

Take a lot of what Rogan says with a pinch of salt. I find him insufferable and he flip flips depending on who he has on as guests.

Another thing that I thought was very noticeable in the fight was that despite McGregor's postulating about precision sheet the Aldo fight, in his attempts to close the gap, he threw a lot of wild overhand lefts, and naturally missed with a lot more than he landed.

Cheers GM. Any other blogs/podcasts?

Ariel Helwani's MMA Hour is great. Pain the arse as 3 hours long every week but he always has top notch guests who give real insight into things. RDA and Kavanagh will be on it today.

Good man cheers!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on March 07, 2016, 10:50:26 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

I completely stand over the comment that Diaz is world class nowhere except on the deck. 10 Defeats speaks for itself.

Lets' call a spade a spade here.

The UFC got Diaz to fight Mc Gregor because they couldn't believe on any level Diaz would win. He had no camp and hadn't sparred in weeks.

Mc Gregor unfortunately had nothing beyond his stand up game. I think RDA would take him and I'd fancy Pettis too. Mc Gregor would beat Cerrone and the rest of the lightweights I think.

I don't see Aldo on any level beating Conor because stylistically Mc Gregor is a nightmare match-up for Aldo. Edgar is the nightmare match-up for Mc Gregor and that's why he won't get the fight- because he might actually beat him. Aldo definitely won't in my view.

Dana White can't afford Mc Gregor to lose his next fight. He'll be matched up against Aldo in a contest he shouldn't lose. Vacate the belt and move up.

the two belt dream is over and the Welter-weight dream is also over. He'd have to be an idiot to fight at that weight again. But he could get the job done at light-weight...............maybe
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 08, 2016, 03:40:47 PM
I take absolutely no delight in McGregor losing. He's a champion and I trust he will be back better than ever. McGregor came to SBG with well touted hands. He was a prospect most people heard about 10 years ago on the MMA scene before his first fight.  In ten years though working under a BJJ black belt (John Kavanaugh) he hasn't shown the same growth on the mat.  I'm not saying he isn't good - he just isn't elite and Diaz exposed that at UFC 196.  Mendes nearly had the better of him and Frankie Edgar will beat him at 145 by keeping it on the ground.  I expect to see McGregor take a standup fight at UFC 200 or the matchup with RDA (which I doubt they give to him).
In the Diaz fight he was vintage McGregor. His strikes were unorthodox, he attacked from multiple angles and he had Diaz confused.  But as he landed his trademark left over and over again and Diaz took them there had to be a sense of dread there. I've thrown everything I have at you and you're still coming forward.....
He got caught with some crisp jabs - I think 3 or 4 in the 2nd round before eating Diaz's combo and getting wobbled.  CMG did great to hand in there on the feet as long as he did - even connecitng again with his left.  The take down was to buy time. Diaz welcomed it and had 3 different submission attempts in 10 seconds. He's a whiz on the ground and even if McGregor had been thinking clearly he was going to get submitted.
Comments on here that Diaz is an average fighter are ridiculous. Diaz like McGregor takes the fight when called upon. He hasn't been the most dedicated trainer and is certainly not a company man. He's taken fights injured and lost but he's always showed up to fight.

The UFC is on the back foot now following this loss.  GSP was in the crowd. The 170lb king. How much interest would a GSP McGregor fight at 170 generate? George never made the millions CMG has made. He would be tempted to come back for that and I think that's why he was there (despite Dana's comments). The UFC lost a big money super fight there.....

I completely stand over the comment that Diaz is world class nowhere except on the deck. 10 Defeats speaks for itself.

Lets' call a spade a spade here.

The UFC got Diaz to fight Mc Gregor because they couldn't believe on any level Diaz would win. He had no camp and hadn't sparred in weeks.

Mc Gregor unfortunately had nothing beyond his stand up game. I think RDA would take him and I'd fancy Pettis too. Mc Gregor would beat Cerrone and the rest of the lightweights I think.

I don't see Aldo on any level beating Conor because stylistically Mc Gregor is a nightmare match-up for Aldo. Edgar is the nightmare match-up for Mc Gregor and that's why he won't get the fight- because he might actually beat him. Aldo definitely won't in my view.

Dana White can't afford Mc Gregor to lose his next fight. He'll be matched up against Aldo in a contest he shouldn't lose. Vacate the belt and move up.

the two belt dream is over and the Welter-weight dream is also over. He'd have to be an idiot to fight at that weight again. But he could get the job done at light-weight...............maybe
or
Can a fighter evolve? Can a fighter grow and get better? Does a loss on your record taint your career? Does it halt your progress as a fighter or as a martial artist?
Diaz lost in 2006 by submission when he was 20 years old to Hermes Franca a decorated BJJ black belt
In the next 4 years he won 6 times and lost 3 times. 2 by split decision and 1 unanimous decision and it was close
He dabbled with a move to 170lbs at this point in his career to secure bigger money fights. He didn't fair well against the bigger fighters (back then IV re-hydration was allowed) and was overpowered by Dong Hyun Kim and Rory Mcdonald - both big men for the welterweight division but he went to the decision against both.
He returned to 155lbs and walked through Takanori Gomi, Donald Cerrone and jim Miller.
He lost two fights back to back against Benson Henderson (former champion) and Josh Thompson (only TKO of his career).  Arguably he came in to both of those fights injured and his attitude towards fighting and the UFC at that point in his career were at an all time low. He didn't give a shit to say the least and the UFC was screwing over his brother Nick.
He fought RDA the 155lb champ when he was injured again.  This is all documented.

Watch the Mcgregor fight again and tell me his boxing wasn't good... watch his fight against Michael Johnson and tell me his boxing wasn't good... or against Cerrone....
The reason the UFC and Conor picked this fight is two-fold: they thought McGregor could win and the KNEW adding Diaz to the fight would bring in the most $$$$$$
McGregor had all the tools to beat Nate - he gassed out and made the crazy mistake of taking Nate down. Nate doesn't have takedowns... he has a few trips and a decent throw but he rarely takes people down.

Cerrone has great takedowns and great wrestling (watch Cerrone's last fight when he is getting outmatched in the standup he immediately shoots, out grapples and submits) - same with Pettis - both would beat McGregor. Aldo doesn't have takedowns but if it gets to the ground he has the BJJ skills to stop Conor. If they meet again (and I think they will) that fight is a coin toss - just like the first one.

MMA isn't soccer or any other sport - it's fighting with some regulations.  There is no guaranteed script.  It's why Matt Serra beat GSP, Randy Couture came out of retirement and beat Tim Sylvia - it's why we watch - anything can happen...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Walter Cronc on March 08, 2016, 03:50:55 PM
Super post Iceman - learnt plenty there!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Longshanks on March 08, 2016, 03:56:22 PM
Super post Iceman - learnt plenty there!!!

Totally agree, I'm somewhat of a late comer to the sport but defo enjoying all the fights these days so interesting what you said regarding Diazs previous fights
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Carmen Stateside on March 08, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
Went to vegas for this and was not disappointed with the show that was put on. I think i will go again.
That night after the fight, the bold Diaz and his posse landed into the bar we were at and planted themselves at the table beside us.  Some poor lad tried taking a selfie with him, which didn't go down well with some of his crew, which in-turn led to the lad taking a clipping for no real reason. 
Think the highlight of the weekend was meeting Com Parkinson  :P
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 09, 2016, 11:12:24 PM
I agree he should have pushed the cut. even 5lbs or 15lbs down to the 155 lb limit may have helped,  But cutting weight doesn't change the chin and Diaz can take a punch....his only TKO stoppage came from a shin to the chin and he wasn't even out....
You're spot on about McGregor not wanting to disappoint the fans but he's also getting paid extortionate amounts of money he doesn't want to walk away from...

When someone drops out of a fight historically it hurts them financially for a while.... RDA won't get the same negotiating power...or Jose Aldo - Uncle Dana has said as much....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on March 12, 2016, 09:03:41 PM
Breakdown of last week - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLx65kl_2R8
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 21, 2016, 04:10:55 PM
Lads, serious question, how is this 'sport'?


Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 21, 2016, 06:27:30 PM
Could you post the International Rules biggest hits video on youtube and ask if it's sport? Or the armagh cavan brawl?
This is an isolated incident of poor decision making by the referee. The fighter in mount actually looked at the ref as if to say are you going to stop this?
A fighter must do two things when under attack like this or it will be stopped by the ref -they have to intelligently defend themselves and try to advance the position.  It actually was the reverse of what happened in this exact fight earlier.  The taller man got rocked but protected himself, tried to get out of the position and the referee let him.  In this case - the fighter on the bottom is a cuban who was adopted by the aussies and the fight was in australia and the ref showed some bias i believe and let it happen....

MMA is fighting AZ. Fighting with some regulations.
It's as close to the purest sport men have engaged in for 1000s of years - who is the best.  It's why you wrestle with your siblings growing up, box with the boys in school and strip to your vest on a saturday night after a few pints and challenge the Lawler's of the local town.....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 22, 2016, 01:04:05 PM
Lads, serious question, how is this 'sport'?




Always been more of a boxing fan myself, but was gifted tickets to go to see the UFC in Krakow while over on a stag last year.  Thoroughly enjoyed the whole event and i must say it converted me a little.  Boxing is still superior for me but i can nolonger cast UFC aside as pile of sh*te.

Anyway, surely if McGregor’s next fight is rematch against Diaz then he will have to vacate his title?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 01:12:46 PM
Could you post the International Rules biggest hits video on youtube and ask if it's sport? Or the armagh cavan brawl?
This is an isolated incident of poor decision making by the referee. The fighter in mount actually looked at the ref as if to say are you going to stop this?
A fighter must do two things when under attack like this or it will be stopped by the ref -they have to intelligently defend themselves and try to advance the position.  It actually was the reverse of what happened in this exact fight earlier.  The taller man got rocked but protected himself, tried to get out of the position and the referee let him.  In this case - the fighter on the bottom is a cuban who was adopted by the aussies and the fight was in australia and the ref showed some bias i believe and let it happen....

MMA is fighting AZ. Fighting with some regulations.
It's as close to the purest sport men have engaged in for 1000s of years - who is the best.  It's why you wrestle with your siblings growing up, box with the boys in school and strip to your vest on a saturday night after a few pints and challenge the Lawler's of the local town.....

Are you seriously equating a big hit in the AFL within the rules with this? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
Sorry Iceman, I'll write a better reply. I was on the phone earlier. I have a problem with MMA because it actively encourages what I would see as pure dirt. Elbowing a lad in the face, knees in the face, holding a lad on the ground, punching on the back of the head, choking, etc etc.  I just have an aversion to beating a guy on the ground who is basically helpless, and that seems to be fine in MMA. I'm not sure which of the Martial Arts actually encourage that?

To me, very little differentiates it from a street brawl, and that's why I can't take to it as a sport, and why I'm not so sure I would like young lads watching it and trying to impersonate their heroes on the green.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:09:56 PM
Thanks for the response. I wasn't equating it to AFL - I was saying you can't post an isolated video and use that to showcase the sport.....

that being said..... Strikes to the back of the head are illegal - the referee should issue a warning, then deduct a point then disqualify for persistent fouls.  The same goes for eye gouging, fish hooking, groin strikes, particular elbows thrown from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock on a downed opponent, kneeing or kicking in the face while an opponent has 3 limbs touching the ground.....

In the video you posted everyone agrees the fight should have been stopped. The man on top wasn't landing heavy strikes (it's quite difficult to generate a lot of power from your knees) and the guy on the ground was talking to the referee and giving him two thumbs up that he was fine. Still the strikes were unanswered and he wasn't advancing his position so to my point in another post, the fight should have been stopped.  That's the referee's job - not the fighters. Just like in boxing if a fighter is on the ropes and the other man is hitting him over and over again and the fighter stays on his feet but is out - it's up to the ref.  We've seen it happen countless times but don't discount boxing as a sport.

All martial arts come from hand to hand combat systems.  These were designed for war originally and battle.  They have them in nearly every country in the world.  Their own system or variation of a system.
When the UFC started it was to answer the question "who would win"  Which system is better?  Boxing versus Karate, Wrestling versus Kickboxing......It evolved into the sport it is today as fighters adopted the most effective styles - BJJ, Thai Boxing and submission grappling.  Mixed Martial Arts.

Now the sport is the ultimate sport the ultimate test - one on one - who wins.  You played football  -you enjoyed winning, being the better team but surely you enjoyed the individual battle with your marker?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:13:01 PM
I did. I'm not so sure I would have enjoyed my marker elbowing me in the face, kneeing me in the head, or trying to choke me out though :)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
I did. I'm not so sure I would have enjoyed my marker elbowing me in the face, kneeing me in the head, or trying to choke me out though :)
but you had no problem throwing the odd dig I'd imagine or going toe to toe if the occasion called for it?  Why was that?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:22:53 PM
Not on a lad lying on the ground I didn't. In fact there are few things worse in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:29:26 PM
Not on a lad lying on the ground I didn't. In fact there are few things worse in my view.
But thats because in football, lads on their back don't know how to defend themselves. I will lay down on my back and welcome you to my world and I'm not even that good! LOL
I remember the first time I found out McGeeney was training in BJJ - it was during an International Rules match, he was on his back and this Aussie landed on him and grabbed him by the throat.  McGeeney executed a perfect sweep, advanced to side control and had a neck crank sunk in before the fella knew what hit him.

In MMA these fighters are trained in all areas. Or should be. If you understood the rules, or tried some training yourself you would appreciate it more. Like any sport. 

You don't have to like it.  I'm defending the fact that it is a sport, with rules and regulations and participants who show respect and shake hands after the battle.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on March 22, 2016, 03:35:55 PM
It's an awesome spectacle and makes boxing look a bit dull and one-dimensional. I imagine there will be big consequences for a lot of these fighters when they get older, but they should be allowed to what they want with their own bodies.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 03:48:46 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 03:59:05 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:08:57 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:33:29 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?

My question, rather than point, is which one of the sports would recognize itself in holding a man down and elbowing him in the face? I think MMA is far more violent than any of the individual disciplines which make it up. And I think that is because MMA as a spectator sport wants the violence.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 04:35:33 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:43:31 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:50:47 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.
I don't understand your point here.  Are you saying that Karate would not be a fan of the violence of MMA? Or Thai boxing would shake their head at the violence? Or traditional boxing would weep at someone being choked unconscious?

My question, rather than point, is which one of the sports would recognize itself in holding a man down and elbowing him in the face? I think MMA is far more violent than any of the individual disciplines which make it up. And I think that is because MMA as a spectator sport wants the violence.
I like a standup battle - as much as the next man - I also enjoy the technicality of a chess match on the ground between two grappler's at the top of their game.  The majority of casual fans dont understand that side of the sport...
In Thai boxing you can hold and elbow to the head while standing, or hold the back of the neck and knee repeatedly to the face...
We all want violence! Do you turn off the tv when there are fistycuffs at a match? Or do you cheer your team on like everyone else? Come on now....

the martial arts were designed for combat, kill or be killed.  Anyone who participates and immerses themselves in martial arts dont do so because they are seeking a peaceful path.... its so they are ready for all and every situation...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:54:19 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.
whats the difference to striking a man with a knee in the face or elbow to the face while he is standing? versus while he is on his back? it's proven you generate more force and cause more damage while standing.....
all the ground fighting arts allow for strikes and promote strikes....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 22, 2016, 04:59:43 PM
It's harder to move and defend yourself on your back. You are vulnerable. Sinking an elbow onto a lads face as you pin him to the ground is not very sporting 😃  maybe I dont watch enough but I've never seen that level of violence in judo, karate, boxing, wrestling or anything else I can think of. I think that blood lust is an MMA invention.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 05:04:25 PM
It's harder to move and defend yourself on your back. You are vulnerable. Sinking an elbow onto a lads face as you pin him to the ground is not very sporting 😃  maybe I dont watch enough but I've never seen that level of violence in judo, karate, boxing, wrestling or anything else I can think of. I think that blood lust is an MMA invention.
these other martial arts dont have TV coverage because they have point fighting - but when you are taught them you're taught to inflict as much damage on your opponent as posisble... I think you're confusing tv with sport..... martial arts point fighting for TV is not real martial arts  - Tae Kwon Do - pillow strikes and tippy tap kicks - those "martial artists" are destroyed by any trained fighter...
the grappling you see in judo for the olymoics is only one side of the art. There are strikes and chokes and broken limbs....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 22, 2016, 05:30:08 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
why bring kicking in to it - you said skill speed tactics and agility - all of which are traits of the champions in the UFC
these are the traits of the best in all sports whether they kick a ball, dunk a ball, row a boat, box, wrestle, grapple, golf, or compete in any combat sport
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on March 22, 2016, 05:46:11 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?

Djimi Traore.
He was useless with all of the above.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on March 22, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
I understand that people like it. I also understand that there are rules. I would also have no issue with boxing, karate, judo or anything else like that. My problem with MMA is that it seems to encourage very violent striking and the combination of disciplines leads to a seriously violent form of contest, which I feel is not what any of the constituent sports would recognise.

MMA, UFC, wrestling, baxin, bare knuckle baxin etc are not sports. They are one thing and one thing only, fighting. Beating your opponent by combination of skill, speed, agility, tactics is sport. Beating them with fists, knees, elbows and choking is fighting.  People can cod themselves that they are sports but they're legalised pub brawls.
you just described all the UFC champions....

A yes or no answer please; are there any UFC Champions who have not used fist, knee, elbow or choking to win their belt?

Are their any champions league winners who have not used their feet, knees, or head to win?
Bizarre question mike......
Speed, skill, ability and tactics win all sporting competitions but not without the tools of the trade and don't forget a bit of heart, guts and a sprinkling of luck

u didn't answer the question. There's a difference between kicking a ball and kicking someone in the head. The former is sport, the latter is fighting.
why bring kicking in to it - you said skill speed tactics and agility - all of which are traits of the champions in the UFC
these are the traits of the best in all sports whether they kick a ball, dunk a ball, row a boat, box, wrestle, grapple, golf, or compete in any combat sport
Your staunch belief that fighting is a sport leads me to believe you have suffered  numerous boots to the head. It also has impacted your short term memory as u have forgotten to answer my question despite being prompted twice. You should take up something less dangerous. Maybe a sport or a game like snooker or darts. This fighting lark is not good for your health.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on March 22, 2016, 11:07:04 PM
Troll.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 23, 2016, 01:44:00 AM
mikehunt it's a bit of redundant question. And me answering yes doesn't prove anything or add to the conversation....
please contribute with a point that makes sense....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on March 23, 2016, 03:13:46 AM
Nate Diaz Vs Rory MacDonald UFC 129 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zHBX-2RvXc

Some throws by MacDonald!!! He took Nate to suplex city in round 3 lol
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on March 23, 2016, 09:32:46 AM
Sorry Iceman, I got sidetracked last night. I'm not mixing up real life and TV, thanks for the suggestion :), but I think you might be juxtaposing the Combat and Sports words to infer what is and isn't a 'sport'. To me, you are absolutely right, things like Karate, Judo, Boxing, etc etc, evolved from combat disciplines. But that is the key word, evolved. The aim of combat is to maim, kill, injure, disable or neutralise your opponent, in a military context. Sport is about proving you are the better man in a particular skillset or discipline. My own personal opinion is you do not have to carry the over aggressive 'combat' elements to prove that. And that is why those sports have evolved into point scoring, basically demonstrating the mastery over the attacking and defensive techniques, in a mano a mano scenario. Of course blows are struck, and people are hurt, but by and large it is designed to emphasise the skill, bravery and tactics of the discipline, and minimise the battlefield damage that was originally part of the martial art.

My issue with MMA is that it has reverted back, to a certain extent, a more 'anything goes' type of affair, reintroducing the 'combat' elements deliberately to try and excite the fans with violence. That is why I feel it is more 'Combat' than 'Sport', while the original component sports are more 'Sport' than 'Combat'.


I appreciate you like the MMA, and I certainly think the protagonists are brave men and women, but I just don't think it falls under what I consider the boundaries of sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 23, 2016, 10:02:46 AM
One of the lads mentioned the key word on the previous page - spectacle. It's a spectacle as much as a sport. People like iceman who can appreciate the technicalities and finesse of BJJ or wrestling etc would, I suspect, be in the minority. Most want to see blood and guts.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: doodaa on March 23, 2016, 10:29:01 AM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.

If its a prone man ie not able to defend themselves then really the ref should have stepped in by that point. I agree it doesn't look good but is it often the case that this happens? Usually the man on the ground is putting up a defence and the ref steps in when its deemed he isn't.
MMA always looks a lot more brutal than boxing purely because the hands aren't as well padded leading to quicker cuts/ blood everywhere etc. I think if I competed I would prefer that to the repeated blunt force of boxing which would lead to much worse injuries/ illnesses in the long term.
That's not to say a MMA fighter wont go on to develop any of those illnesses, just its probably less likely.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 23, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
I don't think you answered my question. I quite like boxing. I can watch Thai kick boxing and not be put off. I just can't think of a martial art which allows the ground moves including the elbows and knees to the face of a prone man. My aversion to the MMA is that element of it.

If its a prone man ie not able to defend themselves then really the ref should have stepped in by that point. I agree it doesn't look good but is it often the case that this happens? Usually the man on the ground is putting up a defence and the ref steps in when its deemed he isn't.
MMA always looks a lot more brutal than boxing purely because the hands aren't as well padded leading to quicker cuts/ blood everywhere etc. I think if I competed I would prefer that to the repeated blunt force of boxing which would lead to much worse injuries/ illnesses in the long term.
That's not to say a MMA fighter wont go on to develop any of those illnesses, just its probably less likely.

I think the problem is that it's not just fists that agent as heavily padded. Ground and pound with forearms, elbow smashes etc could cause serious damage and there have been some really high profile reffing c**k-ups recently. I still don't know how Herb Dean didn't stop Weidman-Rockhold in the third.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 23, 2016, 06:52:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRLvldfg7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdRLvldfg7I)

LHW Champion Jone Jones vrs Daniel Cormier, Good fight - might give some of you a better idea of the blend of styles that makes up the sport.

This fight will be re-matched later in April.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 29, 2016, 05:30:50 PM
A lot of Diaz McGregor rumors going around for 200. Any truth in it?

Surely it has to be at 155 for McGregor to have a chance? What would McGregor's thinking be behind taking this fight (other than the money)? He gets to immediately right a wrong? Surely he will have to give up his belt?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 29, 2016, 05:47:37 PM
A lot of Diaz McGregor rumors going around for 200. Any truth in it?

Surely it has to be at 155 for McGregor to have a chance? What would McGregor's thinking be behind taking this fight (other than the money)? He gets to immediately right a wrong? Surely he will have to give up his belt?

I think it's a smart business move for him. If he goes back down to 145 to fight Aldo or Edgar he misses out on the Diaz fight which is a big money fight going on the first one.  If he loses to Diaz again then it's a failed experiment at 170 and he can still have the Edgar or Aldo fights...
Put your money on Diaz - he's opened again as the underdog.

Edgar will eat him for breakfast if McGregor can't catch him on the feet and Aldo knows how to beat him now - he will try and take the fight to the ground where his superior BJJ will help. 
I still think the Aldo fight is a 50:50 matchup. But Edgar beats him 9 times out of 10.

He may give up the belt and open up an Edgar - Aldo fight where he fights the winner.... either way his bank account wins...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 05:55:13 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment? 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 29, 2016, 05:58:21 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment?

I don't think he went to the ground to be submitted? His bell was rung and in desperation he went for a takedown to take a rest. He took down the wrong man.

It would have been an extremely smart and calculated move to take the submission loss over a TKO to avoid a lengthy medical suspension.... I don't know if McGregor did that - if he did he is a genius
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on March 29, 2016, 06:46:21 PM
Didnt get the chance to give my 2p's worth at the time but I was never as glad to see that twerp get his arse handed to him.

Im sure yous discussed it at the time Iceman but it looked to me like McGregor had given your man his best shots and then couldnt take his punches and went to ground to get a submission instead of being knocked out? Fair assessment?

I don't think he went to the ground to be submitted? His bell was rung and in desperation he went for a takedown to take a rest. He took down the wrong man.

It would have been an extremely smart and calculated move to take the submission loss over a TKO to avoid a lengthy medical suspension.... I don't know if McGregor did that - if he did he is a genius

Fair enuff i dont know much about the sport and I do have anti Mc Gregor glasses on. I just thought there was no fight in him once he went down but if yer man was handy on the floor he may have made it look like that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on March 31, 2016, 12:18:54 AM

McGregor Diaz rematch confirmed for UFC 200.

170? Doesn't make sense from McGregor's perspective.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 01:09:14 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 06:35:33 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2016, 10:08:24 AM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on March 31, 2016, 11:26:16 AM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough

Well strip McGregor of the belt then and let them fight for the title. None of this interim nonsense.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on March 31, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
And Aldo us fighting Edgar for the interim 145lb title.

Why are they fighting for the interim title? That's stupid.

Because McGregor will have taken two flights outside the weight division since becoming champion and odds of him every defending 145 are increasingly slim. I think it's fair enough

Well strip McGregor of the belt then and let them fight for the title. None of this interim nonsense.

You know that's not how it works! I thought one fight fair enough considering how active McGregor is. Then when he lost I thought, "OK, now he'll have to go back down". Now they're giving him a rematch it's ridiculous not to do something about it.

From the giant showpiece they had planned, their first in T Mobile arena, UFC 200 is starting to look like a bit of an anti climax already. Not a single title fight in sight. No Holm-Rousey rematch. All looking a bit tame but will no doubt sell out in zip time and do huge PPV numbers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 03:16:24 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
If he fights at 155 and loses to Diaz then he has no case to fight RDA at 155 for the belt.
If he loses to Diaz again and fights the winner or Edgar and Aldo and somehow wins then he can fight for the 155 belt...

If he wins against Diaz he can drop the 145 belt and take the big money fight against GSP or Nick Diaz at MSG and the UFCs first event since MMA was regulated in NY

I said from the very start McGregor was after the gold coins not the gold belt and he is raking it in
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on March 31, 2016, 03:59:37 PM
I'm surprised he's taking it at 170 again.  Stubborn man wanting to prove everyone wrong.  With a title fight straight after with the winner of edgar v aldo, he certainly knows how to make money.  Even if he loses, the money will be flying in.
If he fights at 155 and loses to Diaz then he has no case to fight RDA at 155 for the belt.
If he loses to Diaz again and fights the winner or Edgar and Aldo and somehow wins then he can fight for the 155 belt...

If he wins against Diaz he can drop the 145 belt and take the big money fight against GSP or Nick Diaz at MSG and the UFCs first event since MMA was regulated in NY

I said from the very start McGregor was after the gold coins not the gold belt and he is raking it in

RDA not a happy chap that he has been overlooked for UFC 200 i see. Is the event diluted a little by there being no proper belt on offer? (more to be added though I’m sure)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 04:04:05 PM
I don't think it is.  It isn't always about the belt its about the fights and the style matchups. There are cards now weekly or every few weeks. Most cards I'll normally only be interested in one or two fights - thats not to say the other fights won't be good but when I look at the card I don't always care if I watch the whole thing or not.  That being said UFC fight night on April 16th headlined by Nurmagomdov  vrs Tony Furgusson is stacked from top to bottom - I'll definitely watch the whole card. 
I think UFC 200 is going for that. Fights fans want to see regardless of the belts...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on March 31, 2016, 05:14:48 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on March 31, 2016, 05:24:36 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.

If he has some kind of defensive strategy he has a chance as he was well ahead in the last fight until Diaz hurt him. Otherwise I think it will be same old same old his chin is way too open for a guy of Diaz's size and power!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on March 31, 2016, 06:40:30 PM
So what can/will he do differently this time? He landed a lot of shots last time and Diaz just came back for more. Will he give him more respect this time? Diaz will be more prepared as well with having a camp behind him this time.

If he has some kind of defensive strategy he has a chance as he was well ahead in the last fight until Diaz hurt him. Otherwise I think it will be same old same old his chin is way too open for a guy of Diaz's size and power!
The fight should stay on the feet. CMG will have better cradio and will conserve energy and not load up on every shot. I think he will try to attack Diaz's lead leg and hopefully limit Diaz's mobility and footwork.  I also think he will go after the body with the teep kicks he executed against Chad Mendes (if you watched that fight) to drain Diaz's cardio.  He has a chance right there's no doubt about it - I just don't see McGregor winning. Diaz's boxing is too good, his range and length is too hard to handle and he's only been TKO'd once by a kick to the head

Put your money on Diaz for this one
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 01, 2016, 08:46:26 AM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 01, 2016, 09:08:51 AM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?

There's no reason other than ego. He wants top best Diaz under the same conditions and keep the dream alive of a WW title shot or GSP super fight at some stage.

Diaz claimed least week that if McGregor had won, they'd have announced GSP's return for a fight against him. That fight would be far, far bigger than a title fight against Lawler.

McGregor will handle the cardio aspect of 170 much better in the summer after a camp of training for a WW fight. Diaz will be much better prepared too though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 09, 2016, 11:31:38 AM
Flights over from New York on Thursday 7th July and back Monday 11th, Ł280 indirect , Ł330 cheapest direct return! Is this not very dear for an internal flight in America? Thinking to book it now before it gets astronomical or wait to I'm out there! Could end up dearer booking in NY?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on April 12, 2016, 12:14:16 PM
Brazilian MMA fighter Joao Carvalho has died following his defeat to Irish fighter Charlie Ward in the National Stadium on Saturday night.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on April 12, 2016, 12:37:10 PM
Brazilian MMA fighter Joao Carvalho has died following his defeat to Irish fighter Charlie Ward in the National Stadium on Saturday night.

An avoidable waste of life. Comparisons between someone dying on a rugby/GAA pitch is apples and oranges as the intent is to inflict as much damage as possible on your opponent. I wonder how people who were there feel. Cheering on their local favourite as his punches inflict enough damage so as to kill his opponent. I don't know anything about this Charlie Ward fella but how must he feel? Just doing his job and this happens. Organisers may think they can control the environment they fight in and maybe they can but they can't control the damage done. If it's a crime outside the ring then you'd have to question the morality of it in a "controlled environment".
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 12, 2016, 12:41:53 PM
To be fair, we've had serious injuries and deaths following boxing bouts, so I'm not going to pontificate about this tragedy. I just think in MMA, refs have to be trigger happy to stop the sort of punishment being meted out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 12, 2016, 12:46:53 PM
Very sad.

Was on RTE news yesterday, so I'd imagine the backlash in Irish media against MMA/UFC will be very big over the next few days.

Apparently McGregor, who was in attendance, said the fight should have been stopped earlier. It was the 3rd round, and I'm not sure what happened in the early rounds, but the last minute of the fight is up on sportsjoe.ie. From my limited knowledge of the sport, the ref seemed to end it at pretty much the right time. Carvalho was protecting himself but was throwing nothing back and had no chance of escape. In hindsight you could argue the ref could have stopped it 2 or 3 seconds earlier.

Carvalho seemed fine immediately after the fight and walked back to his dressing room unaided. It was only when there that things started going downhill, rapidly.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ballinaman on April 12, 2016, 01:02:02 PM

Carvalho seemed fine immediately after the fight and walked back to his dressing room unaided. It was only when there that things started going downhill, rapidly.
Seems like a case of "talk and die syndrome". A epidural hematoma in the brain occurs after a menigeal artery is damaged...blood starts to pool increasing intracranial pressure leading to death.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: mikehunt on April 12, 2016, 01:03:14 PM
To be fair, we've had serious injuries and deaths following boxing bouts, so I'm not going to pontificate about this tragedy. I just think in MMA, refs have to be trigger happy to stop the sort of punishment being meted out.

Forgot about the ref actually. He'll have sleepless nights and a lot of "if only" questions. Damned if they stop it early and damned if they don't.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: macdanger2 on April 12, 2016, 11:49:02 PM
Terrible tragedy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 13, 2016, 09:07:12 PM
I just wonder how big a factor did the weight play in the last fight?  What weight would McGregor have been at when it was decided that Diaz was the opponent and that it would be at 170?  Was he simply not used to carrying that weight in a fight hence the blow out, or was it a combination of that and the fact that he just expected to blow through Diaz like he did with the FWs?  Surely he will have been training and getting used to carrying that weight since March, plus you would think that he won't simply go for the kill from the first bell either.  But why (other than ego) has he not pushed for the fight to be at 155?

There's no reason other than ego. He wants top best Diaz under the same conditions and keep the dream alive of a WW title shot or GSP super fight at some stage.

Diaz claimed least week that if McGregor had won, they'd have announced GSP's return for a fight against him. That fight would be far, far bigger than a title fight against Lawler.

McGregor will handle the cardio aspect of 170 much better in the summer after a camp of training for a WW fight. Diaz will be much better prepared too though.

I don't see the relevance of the cardio debate here. Diaz does tri-athlete's in his sleep. So cardio is zero advantage here.

Mc Gregor has to bulk up for this weight. As we saw in the first bout he loses all his mobility by doing it. Diaz is the bigger man- sometimes size matters.

He spars with Andre Ward and is a black belt ju jitsu artist

So to sum up. Mc Gregor's biggest strengths are his boxing skills and his movement. He has an average ground game

He's fighting a bigger man, who is a better boxer and an expert ju jitsu artist and has probably a better cardio output then he has.

He can only win this fight if Diaz has an off night. Other then that he's going to lose.

An exercise in vanity in my opinion ( all be it a rich one)
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 13, 2016, 09:51:47 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 13, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.

Gassing out had nothing to do with losing. You keep hanging onto that one .

Beaten by a bigger and yes better man
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 13, 2016, 11:19:23 PM
McGregor completely gassed inside a round and a half last time out and you don't see the relevance of cardio to the debate? Good one.

Gassing out had nothing to do with losing. You keep hanging onto that one .

Beaten by a bigger and yes better man
It have everything to do with the loss. He took Diaz down because he was exhausted, hoping to ride out the rest of the round. As soon as it hit the ground it was over.....
Cardio will play a huge part in the rematch.

Very sad news about the death of the fighter in Ireland. i've watched the footage online and I don't know how anyone would foresee what happened. It wasn't a one sided affair by any means...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 19, 2016, 07:50:43 PM
What's this about? I presume some sort of marketing thing?
From McGregor' twitter...


I have decided to retire young.
Thanks for the cheese.
Catch ya's later.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 19, 2016, 08:07:40 PM
I hope he has his Twitter notifications turned off.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 19, 2016, 08:31:14 PM
What's this about? I presume some sort of marketing thing?
From McGregor' twitter...


I have decided to retire young.
Thanks for the cheese.
Catch ya's later.

messing with the idiots on Twitter no doubt
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 19, 2016, 08:43:09 PM
Probably although it's a little too soon after that lad died, if he is just trolling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 19, 2016, 08:45:33 PM
Weren't there some Snapchat pictures going round a while back of him "enjoying the Vegas lifestyle" as well?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Boycey on April 19, 2016, 09:52:02 PM
His trainer in on it too??

"Well was fun while it lasted"
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 19, 2016, 10:43:24 PM
Wouldn't surprise me. He's talked himself into a re-match he's going to lose. And he probably realises that now.

Still is he going to walk away from 15m? He only has to turn up to get that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 19, 2016, 10:44:11 PM
who knows at this point - all speculaiton
would McGregor really just tweet his retirement? no press conference? no fanfare?
who knows where his head is at..... he just witness a man dying in the cage.... he was in portugal training - then went to iceland to train... and then this... 
I seen some suggestions its a response to a fall out with uncle dana.... who knows
as a famous armagh man said many times......

TWT
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Aaron Boone on April 19, 2016, 11:04:41 PM
He's going back to finish his plumbing apprenticeship so he has a trade to fall back on.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: armaghniac on April 20, 2016, 12:01:00 AM
Once Brolly condemned the whole thing, what could he do?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ashman on April 20, 2016, 12:19:15 AM
The world has gone mad .
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 20, 2016, 02:14:26 AM
who knows at this point - all speculaiton
would McGregor really just tweet his retirement? no press conference? no fanfare?
who knows where his head is at..... he just witness a man dying in the cage.... he was in portugal training - then went to iceland to train... and then this... 
I seen some suggestions its a response to a fall out with uncle dana.... who knows
as a famous armagh man said many times......

TWT

Dana just said on ESPN he was unwilling to fly to Vegas and take part in press conferences promoting UFC 200
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 20, 2016, 06:12:32 AM
So is he testing Dana or what?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on April 20, 2016, 08:53:03 AM
All about getting every last $$$ he can. He will fight again no doubt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 20, 2016, 09:11:09 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:40:36 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 20, 2016, 09:47:49 AM
OR maybe he just wants to go to WWE and make a pile of money doing a lot less dangerous stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 20, 2016, 10:09:00 AM
OR maybe he just wants to go to WWE and make a pile of money doing a lot less dangerous stuff.

He would be too wee and light for WWE would he not?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 11:58:00 AM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!

I said at the time and I still fully believe that GSP was not at 196 by coincidence. If McGregor won that, I think they'd have tried to use it to present him as a "legitimate" welterweight (even though Diaz is a blown up lightweight) and justify a fight with GSP. Robbie Lawler is fantastic but he doesn't have the aura around him that GSP does. McGregor-GSP would have trumped either of Lawler-GSP or Lawler-McGregor in terms of interest and PPV revenue.

UFC 200 is a complete f**king mess at the minute and if they still want it to be their "biggest event ever", they need some superstars at it. GSP's return would fit that and a title fight (GSP could reasonably expect to be the number one contender if he came back) would improve the current card massively.

On a separate note, if McGregor-GSP was actuallt on the cards, it would be one of the most ridiculous things they've ever done. McGregor would get absolutely mauled.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 04:30:38 PM
Reading on Twitter that McGregor and Diaz not happy that George St Peirre's is touted as being lined up to trump them for headline at UFC200 with a title fight v Lawlor. How likely is that scenario?
My hypothetical is they are somehow trying to reverse engineer into a McGregor v GSP fight.
McGregor out. GSP in for new co-main event. GSP's opponent out. McGregor back in.
Maybe a bit far fetched even for UFC!

I said at the time and I still fully believe that GSP was not at 196 by coincidence. If McGregor won that, I think they'd have tried to use it to present him as a "legitimate" welterweight (even though Diaz is a blown up lightweight) and justify a fight with GSP. Robbie Lawler is fantastic but he doesn't have the aura around him that GSP does. McGregor-GSP would have trumped either of Lawler-GSP or Lawler-McGregor in terms of interest and PPV revenue.

UFC 200 is a complete f**king mess at the minute and if they still want it to be their "biggest event ever", they need some superstars at it. GSP's return would fit that and a title fight (GSP could reasonably expect to be the number one contender if he came back) would improve the current card massively.

On a separate note, if McGregor-GSP was actuallt on the cards, it would be one of the most ridiculous things they've ever done. McGregor would get absolutely mauled.

GSP is a horrible matchup for CMG especially given his grappling ability and weight -the man walks about near 200lbs

The way to save the card I think is throw RDA in there for a 155 title fight with Nate Diaz and headline with Nick Diaz vrs GSP for fun or Lawler v GSP for the title
GSP is in camp now - he says it's a test but it can turn real very quickly.... Nate does not want to fight GSP - he is loyal to his brother and 170 is his division.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 20, 2016, 04:52:29 PM
Nick's suspension isn't up until August I believe.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 04:56:51 PM
Nick's suspension isn't up until August I believe.
Good call.... still can't see Nate taking the GSP fight.... I'd say two title fights will save the card 155 and 170
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on April 20, 2016, 05:04:46 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 05:09:02 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2016, 05:43:42 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.

Do we know what a UFC contract looks like Iceman?  If he can only fight for Dana, what would happen if Dana offered him a derisory amount for a fight?  Surely the fighter has got to have some options so he is not exclusive to them as he could be taken advantage of in that case?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 20, 2016, 06:44:00 PM
So what next for McGregor? What if Dana calls his bluff?

Is he seriously done? Can he start something up himself? Would Bellator be an option?

Questions, questions???
He can start his own promotion but not fight. He has a contract with the UFC- his only option is retirement or compete.
Dana can fill the void.... he holds the strings.

Do we know what a UFC contract looks like Iceman?  If he can only fight for Dana, what would happen if Dana offered him a derisory amount for a fight?  Surely the fighter has got to have some options so he is not exclusive to them as he could be taken advantage of in that case?
No I don't know but I've followed the promotion for long enough to know there is no way he can just quit the UFC and go and fight for Bellator. CMG signed the contract - it is for a set figure per fight plus PPV ties and whatever bonuses he has. Like a soccer player can't just quit a team and go and join another - it's a contract. He is exclusive to the UFC until that contract has been obligated or he is released
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 20, 2016, 09:23:06 PM
Dana White gave some more interviews this evening:

He said was nothing to do with money, purely to do with him not wanting to do promotional activity.

Said Conor needs to say if he is or isnt retiring or he'll be stripped of the FW belt.

He said it never got argumentative. He was talking to his Conor's manager and not once did it get argumentative.

He said that people like to say he cosys up to Conor and stuff like that and that Conor can do what he wants. But he can't. He gives lots of leeway to Conor because he delivers. But he wasn't going to deliver this weekend so he had to pull him.  Dana said Conor wanted to move the promotional activity to May, which wasn't acceptable. Dana said he thought Conor wouldnt have expected him to pull him from the fight.

He said if McGregor calls him very soon he can still be on the card, but he needs to do the promotion. UFC have spent $10m on promotion for UFC 200 that is already in motion.

Dana said the reporter who said McGregor was holding out for $10m was flat out lying. He repeated this had nothing to do with money, and Conor is happy with what he earns.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 20, 2016, 10:44:23 PM
Dana doing his best to f**k up UFC200. Looks like Conor isn't happy being dragged around the world as a show pony. Guess he's entitled to finish up with his money if he isn't happy. His coach seems very relaxed about it all.

He signed up for it. He knows the deal- no sympathy for him.

He obviously reflected on the fight he signed up for and realised he has no hope of winning.

This way he can save face - do one more bout at 145 kick whoever's ass comes out of the eliminator and then move up to 155 permanently and discard the 170 charade to history
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 21, 2016, 12:02:00 AM
there was no shame in losing to NAte a 2nd time at 170
he had a guaranteed fight at 145 afterwards - he wouldnt walk away from 10 million - he took the fight because it was his only shot at Nate at 170 and the big pay day
he'll lose to edgar at 145 and the nate fight would be completely lost
this way he is guaranteed 2 fights and the diaz one would always be the bigger pay day
there is a lot more to this...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 21, 2016, 04:18:05 AM
the fella who owns UFC is a billionaire. It's all one big circus with the added feature of death
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on April 21, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
I heard he is retiring as he wants to make more money elsewhere.
A Luas driver he will be so....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on April 21, 2016, 08:48:33 AM
UFC 197 hasn't even happened and they're already trying to go over the top with promo for 200?

Surely a month of promo is enough, no?

Sure the McGregor/Diaz fight has already promoted itself anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on April 21, 2016, 11:42:38 AM

Dana said last night that he could still be reinstated to the UFC200 bill
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 21, 2016, 11:44:51 AM
the fella who owns UFC is a billionaire. It's all one big circus with the added feature of death

Remember movies like 'The Running Man'?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Declan on April 21, 2016, 03:51:24 PM
Ball back in Dana court now.
 I am just trying to do my job and fight here.
 I am paid to fight. I am not yet paid to promote.
 I have become lost in the game of promotion and forgot about the art of fighting.
 There comes a time when you need to stop handing out flyers and get back to the damn shop.
 50 world tours, 200 press conferences, 1 million interviews, 2 million photo shoots, and at the end of it all I'm left looking down the barrel of a lens, staring defeat in the face, thinking of nothing but my incorrect fight preparation. And the many distractions that led to this.
 Nothing else was going through my mind.
 It is time to go back and live the life that got me this life.
 Sitting in a car on the way to some dump in Conneticut or somewhere, to speak to Tim and Suzie on the nobody gives a **** morning show did not get me this life.
 Talking to some lady that deep down doesn't give a **** about what I'm doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise, and I'm cool with that too, I've been giving you all raises. But I need to focus on me now.
 I'm coming for my revenge here.
 I flew an entire team to Portugal and to Iceland to make my adjustments in preparation and fix my errors I made with the weight and the cardio prep.
 With the right adjustments and the right focus, I will finish what I started in that last fight.
 I will not do this if I am back on the road handing out flyers again.
 I will always play the game and play it better than anybody, but just for this one, where I am coming off a loss, I asked for some leeway where I can just train and focus. I did not shut down all media requests. I simply wanted a slight adjustment.
 But it was denied.
 There had been 10 million dollars allocated for the promotion of this event is what they told me.
 So as a gesture of good will, I went and not only saved that 10 million dollars in promotion money, I then went and tripled it for them.
 And all with one tweet.
 Keep that 10 mill to promote the other bums that need it. My shows are good.
 I must isolate myself now.
 I am facing a taller, longer and heavier man. I need to prepare correctly this time.
 I can not dance for you this time.
 It is time for the other monkeys to dance. I've danced us all the way here.
 Nate's little mush head looks good up on that stage these days. Stuff him in front of the camera for it.
 He came in with no **** to do that last one. I'd already done press conferences, interviews and shot the ads before RDA pulled out.
 Maybe I'll hit Cabo this time and skull some shots pre-fight with no obligation.
 I'm doing what I need for me now.
 It is time to be selfish with my training again. It is the only way.
 I feel the $400million I have generated for the company in my last three events, all inside 8 months, is enough to get me this slight leeway.
 I am still ready to go for UFC 200.
 I will offer, like I already did, to fly to New York for the big press conference that was scheduled, and then I will go back into training. With no distractions.
 If this is not enough or they feel I have not deserved to sit this promotion run out this one time, well then I don't know what to say.
 For the record also -
 For USADA and for the UFC and my contract stipulations -
 I AM NOT RETIRED.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:10:10 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: AZOffaly on April 21, 2016, 04:13:09 PM
I'm telling you. 5 minutes in an airport with the Cork footballers, and look at him!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on April 21, 2016, 04:17:19 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.

I enjoyed reading that and I've no grá for the UFC. He's a quare operator in and out of the pentagon
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 04:35:29 PM
Wow. That's awful. Massive cringy bullshit from him there.

I enjoyed reading that and I've no grá for the UFC. He's a quare operator in and out of the pentagon

I'm sure the details of the arranged promotions were in the pre-fight contract he signed.
It's up to the fighters to sort their training around this.
Sure every fighter has to do the same level of promotion.
If CMCG didn't take on all the additional sponsorship and media coverage then his time wouldn't be so consumed.
I am not that clued in with the whole sport but I would image there are other outlets for the fighting arts if he isn't in agreement with the UFC's policy.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 21, 2016, 05:13:16 PM
He's acting like a child here... he signed a contract which I'm sure laid out all his commitments so Dana told him to f**k off when he tries to renegotiate after the fact.

The lads in the UFC aren't known to be sympathetic and while this circus is creating great publicity I'm sure White and Fertitta won't be held to ransom by McGregor. . . if they grant his demands then who else is going to come out next and say they aren't going to do the promotion. It's a business and McGregor know this too well it's up to him to fit his training around his commitments so that he's in correct shape for the fight!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 21, 2016, 07:50:10 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Under Lights on April 21, 2016, 08:30:30 PM
Hound was it not more he was pulled from the card so he took the huff and posted the Twitter message rather than he posted the Twitter message, creating hype, before he was pulled.

I have massive respect for anyone who stands in a boxing ring or whatever you call what MMA fighters fight in, takes massive balls to do that but crying over having to do something he signed up to do just looks like he is making excuses and changed his mind about this rematch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 21, 2016, 10:59:15 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.

He knew when he signed for the UFC what the gig was. No point complaining about it afterwards. He was quite happy to do it when he was on the dole. And he'd still be on the dole queue if it wasn't for the UFC.

He's a multi millionaire and he doesn't need the UFC anymore that's what it comes down to. And that's fine but that statement is car crash material. Even has spelling mistakes
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on April 21, 2016, 11:34:42 PM
He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!
That's a great point.
Also, at this stage everyone knows about Mcgregor and Diaz and the reasons why McGregor would be so desperate to win, and how difficult it would be for him to beat Diaz at 170. It's a genuinely fascinating re-match and it hardly needs all the phony, panto bullshit that usually goes with these occasions.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on April 21, 2016, 11:36:13 PM
Surely this is all one massive con which is set to make both CMcG and the UFC millions (more).
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: In hiding on April 21, 2016, 11:39:54 PM
I thought it was brilliant statement. He got so much in there

He's no interest in doing the usual multiple rounds of PR stuff, as his style of pre-fight banter lampooning his opponent, just can't wash against someone who made him tap out last time!

So instead he pulls his twitter and facebook stunts that gets more publicity than UFC could have dreamed of! Not exactly what they wanted, but massie publicity nonetheless.

Not sure whether Dana will change his mind, will depend on if they can get another headline act. But if McGregor is not reinstated, there's supposed to be another big UFC event on in Madison Square Garden in the Autumn, and McGregor will headline that if he doesn't get UFC 200. I still wouldnt rule him out of 200 though.
I totally agree.
Actually starting to like mc gregor. Smart boy
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 22, 2016, 12:02:16 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Never beat the deeler on April 22, 2016, 01:04:04 AM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 22, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement

He has won over some fighters.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 23, 2016, 07:32:14 AM
Entertaining first UFC200 press conference last night. All the press want McGregor on it and they hounded Dana, but he wasn't budging "How many times have I got to say it" he repeated more than once! His reason is that it wouldnt be fair on the other fighters because they've all made the effort to be here and Conor hasn't. The press guys couldnt see what fair had anything to do with, and one said that McGregor has done more to promote UFC200 than anyone else. Dana accepted that, but repeated it wouldnt be fair to keep him on the card.

Dana then said Diaz is still on the card, and we're going to find him an opponent.

When Diaz was asked who would he like to fight, and the reporter threw out a couple of suggestions, Diaz said he's either fighting McGregor, or he's not fighting! That seemed like a surprise to Dana!

Dana said McGregor will not be fighting in New York (UFC205 in November) he'll fight before that. That took reporters by surprise as New York seemed an obvious venue for Conor.

Dana was asked could Jones be on UFC200, and he said that was a distinct possiblilty. So best guess now is that if Jones wins easy tonight, then it seems very likely that Jones v Cormier II will be on UFC200 and McGregor v Diaz II will headline UFC 202/203.

If Jones loses to St Preux or has a very tough night, then it could be all back up in the air.
   
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on April 23, 2016, 07:41:09 AM
http://severemma.com/2016/04/dana-white-confirms-mcgregor-off-ufc-200-diaz-still-wants-mcgregor/

Looks like Dana is the only one who doesn't want McGregor on the card for UFC200.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on April 23, 2016, 09:32:51 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on April 23, 2016, 12:26:44 PM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.

It was the first time he fought at that weight FFS.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 12:57:28 PM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.

It was the first time he fought at that weight FFS.


To be fair to him PR has made him his millions and he excels at it. He's bigger then the organisation now and fair play to him for that.

But as regards  credibility among the fighters who have gone before him I'm afraid he has it all to prove again.

If Dublin get beaten tomorrow - are they going to retire?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on April 23, 2016, 01:07:50 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on April 23, 2016, 01:31:25 PM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.

It was the first time he fought at that weight FFS.


To be fair to him PR has made him his millions and he excels at it. He's bigger then the organisation now and fair play to him for that.

But as regards  credibility among the fighters who have gone before him I'm afraid he has it all to prove again.

If Dublin get beaten tomorrow - are they going to retire?

I listen to the SevereMMA podcast as it's only recently I've gained an interest in MMA, completely because of McGregor, I'll admit that freely. From their discussions, this seems to be more about players having more of a say and being treated better by the UFC. McGregor, while having his own selfish reasons, may help improve fighter welfare.

The other side to that is he is trying to prove himself again, and the demands of the UFC don't aline with him being able to prepare himself as best he can, his words. I don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't think that, it's a major factor is why he wants to fight Nate again.

As for the retirement thing, he was flexing and the MMA world all turned their attention. A pissing contest with White, surely with all that's happened in the last few days that's transparent now?

It's also interesting that Ariel Helwani tweeted: "I talked to several fighters who were on that stage this week, the vast majority, off the record, did not have an issue w/ Conor not coming."
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: INDIANA on April 23, 2016, 05:17:44 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.

I've been involved in the S&C of martial arts for about 10 years .

 I respect Mc Gregor but I do shake my head at those who think he's great .... yet. He may achieve greatness but he's not there and pulling out of fights when he's guaranteed 15m is silly really. Just for a few press conferences?

What about the lads on the 20/20 deals. Don't give me this he's trying to serve a higher purpose  ;D- he doesn't care about the other fighters- this is professional sport. He knows he can do this and get away with it- it's poor form on the fans who have already booked that trip. So I do shake my head at the Irish public who continue to support him in their droves.

the truth is his striking coach Owen Roddy was ten times more talented just in the wrong era. Good luck to him he's milking it and he'll never have to work again but greatness..... c'mon he's a natural lightweight beating up a lot of featherweights- let's see him go to lightweight and achieve the greatness he talks about. . It's the best division in the UFC in my view

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on April 23, 2016, 05:40:12 PM

Indy I struggle to understand why you pontificate on something like this, ie a subject matter you patently know nothing about. I've been competing at decent level BJJ for nearly 20 years but I wouldn't presume to have any fundamental understanding of the UFC or these fighters. I wouldn't really be a McGregor fan either but I can respect his achievements and qualities.

I've been involved in the S&C of martial arts for about 10 years .

 I respect Mc Gregor but I do shake my head at those who think he's great .... yet. He may achieve greatness but he's not there and pulling out of fights when he's guaranteed 15m is silly really. Just for a few press conferences?

What about the lads on the 20/20 deals. Don't give me this he's trying to serve a higher purpose  ;D- he doesn't care about the other fighters- this is professional sport. He knows he can do this and get away with it- it's poor form on the fans who have already booked that trip. So I do shake my head at the Irish public who continue to support him in their droves.

the truth is his striking coach Owen Roddy was ten times more talented just in the wrong era. Good luck to him he's milking it and he'll never have to work again but greatness..... c'mon he's a natural lightweight beating up a lot of featherweights- let's see him go to lightweight and achieve the greatness he talks about. . It's the best division in the UFC in my view

In between winning All Ireland medals?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 24, 2016, 02:03:14 PM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 08:22:27 AM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Yeah not what Dana White wanted. A 5 round mediocre enough performance from Jones, lessens the chances of Jones v Cormier II beign UFC200. Rumours that McGregor might get back on the card yet.

Johnson was spectacular alright. 
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Corner Forward on April 25, 2016, 08:37:03 AM
Rusty enough looking return for Jon Jones last night. Poor enough fight. Fair play to OSP going five rounds on three weeks notice.

Demetrious Johnson was utterly sensational though. Most complete fighter in the promotion by a mile.
Yeah not what Dana White wanted. A 5 round mediocre enough performance from Jones, lessens the chances of Jones v Cormier II beign UFC200. Rumours that McGregor might get back on the card yet.

Johnson was spectacular alright.

He is according to his twitter
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 10:10:04 AM
he's a genius... by negotiating via twitter he has removed all the UFCs cards... the fans are already badgering dana and Lorenzo. By pulling the fight from UFC 200 based on McGregor's story the UFC looks bad and CMG looks like the victim. Fighters have now changed their opinion of him and are tipping their hats to him in respect of his stance.  In one ranting statement he has cornered the UFC and won over the other fighters....

he will get UFC 200 or the MSG card and make himself and the UFC a fortune. He broke the internet when he announced his retirement
And you believed it?! It's the sort of red top PR crap that the X-Factor does here every year. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the whole thing was sanctioned by Dana White to drum up even more publicity. Gone fishin'.

I'd have to agree. Mc Gregor got his arse kicked last time just in case anyone has forgotten by a guy who has lost 10 fights. The second coming of Ali this isn't

Mc gregor is a brilliant PR man and that's where his future lies in my view.

It was the first time he fought at that weight FFS.


To be fair to him PR has made him his millions and he excels at it. He's bigger then the organisation now and fair play to him for that.

But as regards  credibility among the fighters who have gone before him I'm afraid he has it all to prove again.

If Dublin get beaten tomorrow - are they going to retire?

I listen to the SevereMMA podcast as it's only recently I've gained an interest in MMA, completely because of McGregor, I'll admit that freely. From their discussions, this seems to be more about players having more of a say and being treated better by the UFC. McGregor, while having his own selfish reasons, may help improve fighter welfare.

The other side to that is he is trying to prove himself again, and the demands of the UFC don't aline with him being able to prepare himself as best he can, his words. I don't think you'll find anyone who doesn't think that, it's a major factor is why he wants to fight Nate again.

As for the retirement thing, he was flexing and the MMA world all turned their attention. A pissing contest with White, surely with all that's happened in the last few days that's transparent now?

It's also interesting that Ariel Helwani tweeted: "I talked to several fighters who were on that stage this week, the vast majority, off the record, did not have an issue w/ Conor not coming."

Where do i get this?

Yeah i see from twitter that McGregor is back.  Will be interested to see how it has all been resolved.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 25, 2016, 10:22:11 AM
2 interesting views on MM whatever it is

Keith Duggan
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/conor-mcgregor-doing-a-greta-garbo-would-have-been-truly-audacious-1.2621338

And McGregor’s fans, those who were in from the start are understandably cynical when it comes to this sudden rush of appreciation for their man. But MMA fans also exhibit an element of protectiveness and insecurity about their sport and McGregor in particular; stung by those who reduce it to barbarism and irritated by breezy opinion which they see as ill-equipped to convey the level of skill and bravery required to fight at McGregor’s level. That irritation is well founded.
McGregor is probably the most famous Irish sports star on planet earth just now. He achieved that with zero recognition or interest from establishment Ireland. And so his actual fans don’t bother to hide their disdain for the mainstream.
In McGregor, MMA’s movers and shapers were blessed with a once-in-a-lifetime gem: an outsider with an instantly recognisable image and charisma who had the chops to substantiate the hyperbole when it came to fighting. He was like a gift from the heavens to MMA. Like golf and Tiger Woods at a certain time, there is McGregor and then there is the rest.

Joe Brolly

http://www.independent.ie/sport/mma/joe-brolly-on-the-vicious-backlash-he-received-for-his-mma-column-last-weekend-34654331.html
When McGregor posts a photo of himself wearing a jewelled crown, perched on a gold-plated urinal, they become dizzy with excitement. They tweet each other in near ecstasy about the money McGregor has made and his gangsta turn of phrase. They glory in the ­conspicuous spending. A "nice tiger"; a fleet of ­supercars; next up, a Waterford Crystal Bentley with a miniature grand piano in the rear, played by Mr Scaramanga's butler from The Man with the Golden Gun.

He is encouraged by an awe-stricken media. On Friday morning, a breathless piece in the normally sane Irish Times started with the line: "Breathe out. The champion has not retired." Breathe out? Like we were holding it in? The piece went on: "Sometimes we can forget there is more to McGregor than how he spends his money." That same day, McGregor begged to differ, tweeting: "I've got my bills paid, my money made. And the entire game slayed." He makes Ali's doggerel sound like Shakespeare. And he likes to talk about killing people. "I would kill him in less than 30 seconds," he said recently of Floyd Mayweather.

What a bore.

It says something very depressing about Irish society that this is our most celebrated sportsman
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 10:30:59 AM
cheers
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 11:15:38 AM

Yeah i see from twitter that McGregor is back.  Will be interested to see how it has all been resolved.
He may be back.

McGregor's twitter is not the most reliable information source in the world. I don't think there has been any official confirmation (or denial) yet.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: johnneycool on April 25, 2016, 02:07:25 PM
Quick question;

Is the Bellator like a Div2 for UFC fighters?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on April 25, 2016, 02:58:33 PM
Paddy Holohan has had to retire due to a rare blood disorder

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1420772631281528&set=a.158072054218265.31180.100000464136581&type=3&theater
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on April 25, 2016, 02:59:04 PM
It's seems the whole McGregor fight off and back on again was Dana White taking a leaf out of Vince McMahons book. In wrestling I think they call it a work.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on April 25, 2016, 03:03:26 PM
Quick question;

Is the Bellator like a Div2 for UFC fighters?

Was wondering that myself.  James Gallagher was signed by them recently and I thought he was waiting on the UFC call to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 25, 2016, 03:04:24 PM
Paddy Holohan has had to retire due to a rare blood disorder

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1420772631281528&set=a.158072054218265.31180.100000464136581&type=3&theater

Sad that. Seems he's hinting that he doesnt want to retire but he is being forced too.  I know nothing of the dangers of this blood disorder though
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 25, 2016, 04:13:42 PM
seems like a right fella now in fairness - just opened up his own SBG gym so he'll be ok.  It will be hard for him not to compete.

McGregor is playing some game on Twitter with the UFC. I suspect at this point that they have sanctioned it otherwise his behaviour would warrant some punishment.... definitely "a work" as someone pointed out.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 25, 2016, 04:34:27 PM
Bellator would be considered a promotion with an inferior roster. However, former UFC Lightweight Champion Benson Henderson (hasn't been in best form for a while) got absolutely walloped on Friday night on his Bellator debut. It was admittedly a title fight at welterweight but he was annihilated for 5 rounds.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 25, 2016, 04:55:25 PM
seems like a right fella now in fairness - just opened up his own SBG gym so he'll be ok.  It will be hard for him not to compete.

McGregor is playing some game on Twitter with the UFC. I suspect at this point that they have sanctioned it otherwise his behaviour would warrant some punishment.... definitely "a work" as someone pointed out.
Dana White still adamant he's not on the card and he doesn't know why Conor would tweet that!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on April 25, 2016, 05:18:51 PM
This bullshit is worse than the hokey cokey... f**king hurry up and make a call there are lads who have spent a lot of money to go see this, the current posturing of both sides is sickening when considering the cost to the normal punter!!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: 50fiftyball on April 26, 2016, 12:51:48 PM
What's the honest views at the minute then?!Iceman etc... Is CMcG going to be on the card or not at UFC200, is it all a waiting game? Correct me if I'm wrong but the pre sale tickets go on sale Thursday so they're leaving it late! Dana/UFC bound to make an announcement tonight or tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on April 26, 2016, 01:16:03 PM
Is the inevitable split coming?

What will the new one be called:

WFC?
UFO?
FFS?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 26, 2016, 01:53:42 PM
Diaz has said he's going on holiday and won't be at UFC200, so it seems he's been told there's no chance of it going ahead.

It seems Dana wants to put on Jones v Cormier, but there's a questionmark over the fitness of both men, hence the delay in the official announcement.

McGregor's tweet about retirement and his detailed facebook post worked great. That combined with the way the press conference went had all reporters/media behind Conor. But his tweet about thanking Dana for putting him back on the card has completely backfired. He was attempting to build on the momentum, but instead brought it to a crashing halt.

There'll probably be more swings and roundabouts before we all know what exactly is going on!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 03:43:07 PM
Jones shoulld be absolutely fine for 200, as should Cormier. However, given how rusty Jones looked on Saturday, that's not quite looking like the cracking fight it did previously.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 26, 2016, 04:15:40 PM
Jones shoulld be absolutely fine for 200, as should Cormier. However, given how rusty Jones looked on Saturday, that's not quite looking like the cracking fight it did previously.

I think you're being too critical of Jones. He gave a good enough explanation post fight for me. He trained months for Cormier. A shorter wrestler with an overhand right. He went in against a tall strong power punch with awkward movement.  Given time to study his opponent I think he would have made very light work of OSP.  But instead on short notice he looked rusty or gun shy....
I think he does a number on Cormier 10 times out of 10.

With regard to CMG i don't think he fights Diaz at UFC 200.  Diaz seems to be on the sauce already given the pictures he posted recently.  I think The UFC pulls a rabbit out of a hat and announces a bigger fight for Mcgregor. OR a surprise fight for GSP with Lawlor... or a rousey holm rematch? theres something cooking
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 06:19:23 PM
Regardless of how valid his explanation was, the Cormier fight is now lacks the same lustre. It's a shame because the two genuinely loathe each other.

McGregor got choked out fairly handily by a blown up lightweight. Any notions of him fighting GSP or Lawler should be dismissed. It might be a huge attraction and would surely generate PPV buys for the UFC but it's hard to see what it generates in the long run. A fight against Lawler would presumably be for the title, which he hasn't come close to earning. Both of them would absolutely walk through his best shots, smash him and then ground and pound the life out of him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on April 26, 2016, 07:30:39 PM
Regardless of how valid his explanation was, the Cormier fight is now lacks the same lustre. It's a shame because the two genuinely loathe each other.

McGregor got choked out fairly handily by a blown up lightweight. Any notions of him fighting GSP or Lawler should be dismissed. It might be a huge attraction and would surely generate PPV buys for the UFC but it's hard to see what it generates in the long run. A fight against Lawler would presumably be for the title, which he hasn't come close to earning. Both of them would absolutely walk through his best shots, smash him and then ground and pound the life out of him.
I think my post read GSP v Lawlor not Mcgregor. Maybe a different fight for McGregor at 200... who knows at this point. All I believe is that something is in the works....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on April 26, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Sorry, you're right, misread post altogether!

GSP-Lawler would be great, although I'd happily watch Lawler against Rory Mac again.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on April 27, 2016, 03:32:55 PM
http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/ufc/news/19828/10259943/conor-mcgregor-will-officially-not-fight-nate-diaz-at-ufc-200-as-retirement-saga-concludes (http://www.skysports.com/more-sports/ufc/news/19828/10259943/conor-mcgregor-will-officially-not-fight-nate-diaz-at-ufc-200-as-retirement-saga-concludes)

McGregor def not at UFC200 then.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: seafoid on April 28, 2016, 05:01:03 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/what-conor-mcgregor-and-donald-trump-have-in-common-and-it-ain-t-pretty-1.2626753

What Conor McGregor and Donald Trump have in common . . . And it ain’t pretty
New Yorker born into riches and former apprentice appeal to same demographic
about 10 hours ago
 Dave Hannigan

5

 
For all the puerile trash-talking and braggadocio, both men now find themselves in remarkably similar, awkward situations.
   
 
 
When Conor McGregor went to war with UFC last week, there was something eerily familiar about his line of complaint and angle of attack. Was it arguing normal rules should not apply to him because he’s special? Or blaming female reporters for trying to hitch their career stars to his wagon? Maybe it was the brash way he asserted that his absence generated more publicity than the event he refused to attend? These all sounded uncannily like points made by Donald Trump when he boycotted a Fox News presidential debate back in January.
Trump’s temper tantrum came, among other reasons, because he was irked at Fox’s Megyn Kelly who, in his distorted mind, was exploiting his candidacy to boost ratings on her nightly show. Which sounds a lot like McGregor lamenting having to talk “to some lady that deep down doesn’t give a f**k about what I’m doing, but just wants some sound bites so she can maybe get her little tight ass a nice raise”. Even the Dubliner’s supplementary boast that he’d already been responsible for several others getting raises also sounded positively Trumpian.
“Donald can shut his big, fat mouth,” said McGregor last November, after the Republican frontrunner had disparaged Ronda Rousey. “I don’t give a f**k about Donald Trump.”
Eloquent statements
Aside from being one of McGregor’s smarter and more eloquent statements, that soundbite rings kind of hollow because the estranged featherweight champion has a lot in common with Trump. Indeed, there have been times over the past year when the two men seem to be using the same promotional playbook to dominate media coverage in their respective fields, an imbalance that has caused peers of both to whinge incessantly about preferential treatment.
Trump and McGregor contend, perhaps correctly, that they get more attention because they deserve it. In the relentless and often insufferable quest to push their brands, each is liable to say anything in front of a microphone.
One labels a Russian-born fighter based in Germany a “little Nazi” and informs Brazilians that in a different time he’d have invaded the favela and killed all those not fit to work. The other vilifies Mexican immigrants as rapists, announces plans to repatriate 11 million of them and to build a 40-foot high, 1800-mile long wall to keep them from returning.
The New Yorker born into immense riches and the former plumbing apprentice from Crumlin are appealing to the same demented demographic with that kind of inflammatory language.
Whether shilling for votes or pay-per-views, there are no illegitimate targets. Nate Diaz’ hometown of Stockton is full of snitches that will be taken out by the Dubliner. Ted Cruz is not a natural born citizen and his wife is uglier than Melania Trump. Distasteful, deliberately offensive but, at a time when the sports and political worlds are matching shades of beige, broad strokes in primary colours are destined to impact.
In this regard, both campaigns are hallmarked by a narcissism so excessive that it’s almost (if not quite) entertaining, a tendency to bloviate that inspires curious levels of devotion, and an understanding that, in the social media era, exaggeration matters more than exactitude.
Nobody knows the true extent of Trump’s wealth and his supposed glittering business career is pockmarked with spectacular failures and stunning lies. Yet, plenty Americans say they intend to vote for him because they believe he has the business acumen to revitalise the economy. Never mind evidence, enjoy the myth.
Nobody has any idea how much money McGregor has wrung out of the notoriously parsimonious UFC but history tells us it’s far less than the telephone numbers bandied out by those eager to burnish his legend. Why the financial hyperbole? Because if the sums he’s drawing down are stratospheric then his achievements in the octagon are rendered more significant. Never mind questions about whether UFC has smoothed his path, put the emperor’s image on the coin now before it turns out he has no clothes.
Like true 21st century shucksters, this pair of unlikely bedfellows are not blinding them with science but with bling. Trump puts fancy stickers with his logo on the private plane to hide the true age of the craft, to give off the air of glamour and to reel in the suckers. McGregor quips that three people died making his watch and his socks are worth more than the suit worn by an opponent whom he then calls a “broke bitch”. The type of desperately adolescent swagger that convinces the all-too-easily fooled he’s living the dream.
Conventional rules
For all the puerile trash-talking and braggadocio, both men now find themselves in remarkably similar, awkward situations. Republican Party apparatchiks, who initially delighted in the frenzy Trump’s candidacy created, seem determined to use convention rules to try to wrest the nomination from his grasp. McGregor, the giddy child once thrilled to be cruising the Vegas strip in Dana White’s convertible, has discovered UFC’s smart business model doesn’t allow anybody grow bigger than those three letters. Ever.
In the space of four days next November, America elects a president and Madison Square Garden hosts New York’s first-ever UFC show. Trump will co-headline one event and McGregor the other. After six more months of tiresome effrontery and vulgar excess. Of course.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on April 28, 2016, 09:59:05 AM
From Esquire in April 2015 (before he'd beaten Aldo and lost to Diaz). Gives a far better insight into the good and bad of McGregor than postulating journalists. Driven, flawed and a bit special. Not always likeable, but have to admit I admire him
http://www.esquire.com/sports/interviews/a34377/conor-mcgregor-interview-0515/

Most of the time, Conor McGregor wins fights with his fists. He has won once with elbow strikes, and he has won once by submission. But the other fifteen times he has professionally beaten another man bloody—most recently Dennis Siver, whom he picked apart in Boston in January—it has been with his hands. His coach, an Irish mixed martial artist named John Kavanagh, has studied the physics of human combat and collision for decades, and even he can't explain why the five-foot-nine McGregor can hit as hard as he does. The hardest hitters usually have long arms, which McGregor does, and they usually have big fists, which McGregor does, but there's something else in him, some mysterious and extraordinary combination of desire and angle and speed, that makes his punches land like bombs.

McGregor, who is also extremely Irish, has an upright stance when he fights, a style that is both entrancing to watch and almost comically traditionalist. "He looks exactly like the Notre Dame logo," says Dana White, the president of the Ultimate Fighting Championship, referring to the university's ornery bare-knuckled leprechaun. Watching McGregor fight brings to mind ancient words like fisticuffs or donnybrook. He makes the delivery of knockouts look like some time-honored craft that occupies the space between art and science, like barrel making or leatherwork. A former plumber, he makes fighting seem like a trade.

When ordinary men land a punch, it lands with a blow, a seismic shock, like a hammer's thud. Most punches blemish. When McGregor lands a punch, his fists behave more like chisels, like awls. His punches cut. They don't bruise the skin; they break it. By the second round of their fight, Dennis Siver didn't look as though he'd been battered so much as he'd been glassed. His face was full of tiny holes.

Whatever reason McGregor's punches are different, they have made him his sport's newest darling, the culmination of a two-year rise from obscurity to headliner to crossover star. He will fight Brazilian champion Jose Aldo for the UFC's featherweight belt in July, and White believes it will be his organization's biggest fight of the year, "a global event," in large part because of McGregor's ability to seem more giant than he is.

But the twenty-six-year-old McGregor doesn't want to be regarded as peerless in only a single facet of his occupation—as just a puncher. "I don't look at a man who's expert in one area as a specialist," he says. "I look at him as a rookie in ten other areas. If you can box, what happens if I grab hold of your legs? If you put me face-to-face with Floyd Mayweather—pound-for-pound boxing's best—if I fought Floyd, I would kill him in less than thirty seconds. It would take me less than thirty seconds to wrap around him like a boa constrictor and strangle him."

McGregor sees the human body the way he sees fights, the way he sees this New York bar in which he's sheltering from the cold, the way he sees existence: Each is a collection of openings and avenues, roadblocks and hurdles. He always sits, as he is sitting now, with his back to a corner; he has scouted the exits; he has several routes of possibility mapped out in his cartographer's brain, every available advance and retreat. "I have a self-defense mind," he says. "I've had it all my life."

The way even the most successful still covet, McGregor dreams of possessing the ultimate trapdoor, of mastering the decisive submission that would finish any opponent: the rear naked choke. He has never managed to apply it during a UFC fight. He talks about it the way any of us talks about an object of desire that eludes us.

"It's the most dominant submission," he says almost wistfully. It isn't an arm or a knee bar or an ankle lock, each of which leaves its victim the opportunity to survive, however slight. And it isn't a punch that can be slipped or countered. The rear naked choke is almost a metaphor for the consequences of our most calamitous mistakes. "You can do nothing to me, but I can do whatever the f*ck I want to you," McGregor says. "I have complete control."

He's not sure he's making himself plain enough. He wants you to understand the feeling of true hopelessness, the sensation of every last door closing to you. He wants you to hate that feeling, which will make you appreciate more deeply the moments you are free. His longtime girlfriend, Dee Devlin, sitting beside him in the bar, does her best to explain his intentions. "He wants you to be better than you are," she says.

So under the bright lights of a photo studio, he strips down to his underwear and jumps on you from behind. You feel his weight lean into you, 170 pounds walking around—he can cut more than 20 pounds in the week before weigh-ins—his pectorals fitting into the tops of your shoulders like puzzle pieces. His broad chest is painted with a giant tattoo of a gorilla eating a human heart. It's not some cartoonish representation of a human heart, either, but an illustration ripped out of a medical textbook, with ventricles and veins. It is a drawing of your heart, and now you can feel his, beating through the ink and into your back.

McGregor's legs hook around your waist, anchored in place by his huge ass. "Glutes are a motherfucker," he says. "Glutes are power." The sole of his left foot presses against the point of your hip; the heel of his right foot digs into your groin. Almost by instinct, your hands find that leg and try to remove it, but legs beat arms almost every time, the way arms beat necks. His right arm wraps around your throat, his thickly veined forearm locked under your chin. His left arm crosses over his right wrist and tucks behind your head. And then he begins to pull back his right arm while he pushes forward with his left.

It doesn't hurt. That's the wrong word. You're uncomfortable. McGregor knows the feeling. The last time he lost a fight, the sixth bout of his career, back in 2010, it was in thirty-eight seconds, and it was to a choke. He was so averse to the sensation, he tapped out before he lost consciousness, one of the great regrets of his life. "That ate me alive," he says. "After that, I said I was going to fight to the death. You're going to have to kill me."

The rear naked choke is oblivious to such resolutions. Your body, like nearly everything you do with it, has imperfections that can seem like evolutionary carelessness. There are the few square inches of your liver that lie exposed, wide open under your ribs, a four-lane expressway to your central nervous system. There are the underengineered flying buttresses of your knees, waiting to snap. And there is your carotid artery, conveying massive volumes of your blood to your brain, close enough to the surface of your neck that you can see and feel it coursing, as though a salmon might run up it. Because that artery means life, it also means death. There is no way for you to strengthen it, to shield it, to mitigate the effects of pressure put upon it. Now McGregor squeezes, in two directions at the same time—again pulling with his right, pushing with his left—his arms like the blades of dull scissors. Your eyes are drawn down, leading the way for the rest of you, to the tattoos on his left wrist: a mustachioed gentleman in a top hat, and one of McGregor's principal mantras: slow is smooth, smooth is fast. He doesn't have to squeeze very hard, and he doesn't have to squeeze very long.

One second, two seconds, three seconds . . .

"Once the blood cuts from the brain, it's over," McGregor whispers.

It is. You are.

*****

McGregor has lived his entire life in pursuit of the opposite sensation: limitlessness. For as long as he can remember, he has been obsessed with movement and its endless opportunities. He has studied animals for their advantages—gorillas, lions, crocodiles—and in Kavanagh's Dublin gym, he tries to find their secrets in himself. Kavanagh has given him a key to the place, because McGregor will get the urge, as irresistible as a choke, to move at all hours of the day and night, slithering and monkey-stalking across the mats. Devlin routinely wakes up to find her man shadowboxing in front of the mirror at four in the morning. He doesn't lift weights or put in carefully apportioned session work like most fighters. "Machines don't use machines," he says, "and I am a machine." He doesn't recognize most of the modern walls we have built around ourselves. "Ritual is another word for fear, manifested in a different way." He doesn't believe in time, or at least he won't submit to it; he recognizes that clocks exist, but he sees no reason to obey their demands. He eats when he wants, he sleeps when he wants, but mostly he moves when he wants. For McGregor, death would be stillness—if he believed in death.

"Even in death, they say your vision, you can see everything," he says. "It's almost like you're evolving to the next stage. It's like a different plane of existence, just another form of movement, now we're moving through the f**king universe or I don't know what the f**k. Think of what's out there."

In some ways, it's hard to bear McGregor's company, and not just because he might decide to choke you out at any moment. He is so confident and self-possessed, so in command of his body and seemingly of his fate, he fills you with doubt about yours. Most of our social interactions are based on the premise that we've all agreed to follow certain rules. McGregor has not agreed to those rules, he will not, which is unnerving because it makes his behavior unpredictable—you find yourself saying,"You can't do that" or "You must do this," and he does and doesn't do it—but also because he makes you wonder why you've agreed to those rules yourself. He walks down the middle of streets; he eats the way storms consume coastlines. He is exhausting as a lunch partner, just as he is inside the octagon. In both instances, he is an igniter of brutal self-examination, the most unflattering mirror.

"You tell someone the truth about themselves and they crumble," he says.

"It's life," Devlin says of her boyfriend's ability to create fissures. Their relationship predates his career as a professional fighter by two weeks. His loves are intertwined. "It's our life," she says. "It's not like it's on and then it's off. It's just the way he is."

He has been fighting in some capacity since he was a child, born a challenging presence. "I seem to have a face—I seem to attract attention somehow," he says. "For some reason, people want to try to come at me. They want to hit me. I just wanted people to leave me alone, basically. I didn't get into this to be somebody. I got into it to feel comfortable in uncomfortable situations."

He began by kickboxing and then boxing. Then he discovered jujitsu and its system of levers, how to beat a man even when you're trapped on your back just by applying a little pressure where pressure isn't normally applied. "It fascinated me," he says. "It fascinated me then, and it fascinates me now."

Then he sat in the stands at UFC 93 in Dublin in 2009. "That's when I could reach out and touch it," he says. He was still an apprentice plumber then, one foot in each world. To hear him tell it, he went back to a damp building site and looked at the masters, men old and shivering before their time, and he made the choice, as though it were a choice, that he would no longer abide. He put down his tools, because machines don't use machines, and walked away. He saw in fighting a nearly perfect freedom, a way to translate his love of boundless physical expression—in a sport where so long as you don't stick your fingers into eyes or open cuts, you're pretty much good to go—into that rarest of lives, he and Dee, soaring together, never to be caged again. "No matter what was going on in my life, good or bad, I always knew—we knew—that we would end up here," he says. "It was inevitable in my head."

He uses inevitable more than most people. For McGregor, his certainty about his rise, and its continuing, isn't bravado. He is doing you the favor of letting you glimpse a future that only he has seen. It's almost as though he can't help it, as though his jaw is just one more pressure-release valve through which he can vent his bottomless reserves of spiritual anarchy. Ask him about his reputation for trash talk and this is what he says, uninterrupted, it seems, even by breaths:

"Trash talk? Smack talk? This is an American term that makes me laugh. I simply speak the truth. I'm an Irish man. We don't give a f**k about feelings. We'll tell you the truth. People ask me a question about somebody, I tell them the truth. I don't have anything bad to say about Jose Aldo. It's pretty plain and simple. His time is up. It's done. There's somebody ruthless coming to get him. There's somebody cold coming to get him. I can look at him dead in the eye and say, It's done. You're over now. You're a champion that nobody gave a f**k about. Nobody cared about him before I came along. Nobody cared about the division before I came along. He's a decision machine. He can barely finish his dinner, never mind his opponent. And he's fought bums. He's fought little small bantamweights and he still can't put them away. Now he's coming in against a monster of a featherweight who hits like a truck. It's over for him. I don't need to say jackshit else. July is a wrap. It's inevitable."

Only two years ago, Dana White went to Dublin to accept an award from Trinity College. It seemed as though everywhere he went, every bar, every street corner, he heard Conor McGregor's name. White has been told about a thousand secret talents over the years; he has assessed an army of local heroes. You will never know their names. But White heard McGregor's name enough that it made him wonder. He flew back to Las Vegas and asked his matchmakers about this Irish kid. They told him McGregor had fought a little, nothing especially noteworthy—fourteen fights, mostly against unknowns, mostly knockout wins, a couple of submission losses. Still curious, White brought his unlikely prospect out to the desert. He remembers driving up the Strip in his Ferrari and McGregor's energy competing with the engine and the lights. White signed him to a five-fight deal without ever seeing him fight.

"He's a penny stock that couldn't have worked out better," White says. "He's one in a million. He has that thing that you can't teach people, whatever it is that makes people gravitate toward you. He has that more than any fighter I've ever met. He makes you believe everything he believes."

Maybe it is a choice whether we abide. Maybe we don't have to be there at nine o'clock sharp. Maybe we don't die.

***
Conor McGregor has been damaged. It was during his first fight in America, in Boston in August 2013. In the second round against Max Holloway, McGregor emerged from a scramble on the ground with an unfamiliar feeling: He couldn't find his feet. Because he really believes what he believes, he still went on to win the fight, but he had torn the anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee. It's a devastating injury for any athlete, but for someone like McGregor, it was especially cruel. He was built flawed like the rest of us after all.

He was told to sit still. He didn't listen. "People will study my recovery," he says. He found new ways to work out, shedding the last of his conventional weights and routines. He pressed his body against itself, refusing every invitation to idleness. He did push-ups against hotel-room sinks. He did single-leg squats. He came back and won his next three fights: TKO (first round, eighteen significant strikes landed); TKO (first round, nine); and most recently, against Siver, TKO (second round, sixty-four). Each was the performance of the night; each made him more popular; each made him more certain. "I learned a lot more about how important balance is, how important control of the body is," McGregor says. "From the moment I open my eyes, I'm trying to free my body. I'm trying to get looser, more flexible, to gain control. Movement is medicine to me."

He studied footage of his fights and of animals hunting other animals, and he became closer to one of them than one of us. If he was a breed apart before his knee was blown out, he was his own species after, better than he was. White tore up his contract, and then he tore it up again. In McGregor's fight against Aldo, he will see a cut of the pay-per-view for the first time. Because its outcome is inevitable, and because he has a self-defense mind, he has already begun thinking of what will come next. "I'm interested in movement, and I'm interested in money, and I'm interested in the movement of money," he says. "If I win that belt and we do a million pay-per-views, we can rip up that motherfucker right there and do what the f**k we want."

"Someone like him, the money just rains down," White says. "He's going to get everything he's ever wanted."

Earlier that freezing day in New York, McGregor and Devlin had walked into a Christian Louboutin store in the Meatpacking District. McGregor is a stylish man; for him, clothes are another means of applying pressure to other men. He tried on several pairs of sneakers, ridiculous sneakers, the sort of clown shoes that would get the shit kicked out of a kid who wore them to the wrong school. He got stuck on a pair of gleaming white high-tops studded with rainbow hunks of plastic, little pyramids and diamonds that fought with the smooth red soles for his eye's dubious attention.

"They're f*cking out there," he said, looking at himself in a mirror. "Wouldn't see no one back home wearing a pair of these."

He looked at them some more, turning, convincing himself.

"If you like them, get them," Devlin said.

"If someone says something—whap," he said, and he began firing off kicks in the middle of the store, the taken-aback employees looking at him and his cauliflower ears anew, doing all the mental arithmetic that men do when they're ranking themselves within the orders of other men. "Just snap them in the face," McGregor said, kicking again at the mirror.

"I don't know about them, I have to say," Devlin said.

"If I'm not going to wear 'em out of the store, I'm not getting 'em," he said. Then he nodded to himself. "I'm wearing 'em out."

Devlin laughed and paid for the shoes: $1,700. The leather boots McGregor had worn into the store went into the bag. The new sneakers went out into the snow and slush. They flashed like sirens.

Then a strange thing happened. A family with young daughters walked up to McGregor and asked for his picture. Then a construction worker broke from a road site and asked for one, too. Then a small crowd began to assemble in the cold on the cobblestones, inexplicably drawn to this man, to this machine, wearing shoes that somebody could wear only if he were somebody. McGregor was surrounded, just like that, made captive by his otherness.

He is aware of the irony. "If you're not in the humor of it, it can be heavy," he says, back in his corner of the bar. "People can become familiar with it, like they've known you all your life. That's weird for me. The reason I got into the game was so that people would leave me the f**k alone." He stops, his flashing black eyes looking at how many of the faces in this room are looking back at him. "It's backfired on me," he says.

And then McGregor is what he so rarely is: He is still, and he is quiet. You get the sense that he's recalculating, looking for different exits. He says he has not wondered once whether he might lose to Aldo—"If I entertain things, they tend to come true," he says—but sitting there, in the silence, he feels as though he has it in him, whatever the result, to disappear one day, maybe on a day not all that distant from today. He knows we'll swallow him alive if he stays; even he can't fight all of us off. The only way he'll have complete control is if he leaves. Maybe that's the future he's seen for himself all along, a great train robber's last big score before he makes good his final escape, vanishing into the jungle with his girl.

"We're the only animal that wakes up and doesn't stretch," he says, coming around.

"Look at your dog," Devlin says.

"Wake up and stretch," McGregor says. "Start there."

Start there and end up with everything you've ever wanted. To demonstrate, he announces that he's going back to his fancy hotel and falling into his cloud of a bed. It's three o'clock in the afternoon.

He won't sleep well. He hasn't worked out in two days, and he's edgy about it, as though he's taking his gifts for granted, as though he's forgotten those dark times when he felt trapped. He'll wake up at two in the morning and start prowling around his hotel room, padding across the thick carpets like a jewel thief, climbing the furniture, scaling the walls, walking upside down across the ceiling, learning how to move through the universe.

A few hours later, you'll wake up, the shadow of his arms still pressed around your neck. You'll get out of bed, and you'll stretch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on May 01, 2016, 09:19:35 PM
Conor seems desperate to get back onto the UFC 200 card
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on May 02, 2016, 04:20:46 PM
More tweets today suggesting he is still treating it like it's a certainty he'll be added back.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on May 11, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omaghjoe on May 11, 2016, 04:15:08 PM
I heard that McGregor and Mayweather where in the process of buying UFC, and that they where going to headline UFC 200 with their own bout.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on May 11, 2016, 04:55:51 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
ESPN had a story this week that a sale was near agreed for up to $4billion. The brothers who own it bought it for €2million in 2001.
But Dana White immediately came out and said it's not for sale.

If Conor was actually capable of competing with Mayweather in a boxing ring would he not already be boxing? Generally more money to be made in elite boxing than UFC/MMA.

Be interesting to see how Conor would actually get on in a boxing ring, but I think a decent Irish fighter might be a step too far for him, never mind Mayweather.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: muppet on May 11, 2016, 05:32:21 PM
This McGregor v Mayweather talk.  Normally these things pop up on social media and are very quickly rubbished and people move on.  This time it seems to be lingering around a little and even gathering a little pace.  Still smell bullsh*t?

Also, rumours that UFC is up for sale.
ESPN had a story this week that a sale was near agreed for up to $4billion. The brothers who own it bought it for €2million in 2001.
But Dana White immediately came out and said it's not for sale.

If Conor was actually capable of competing with Mayweather in a boxing ring would he not already be boxing? Generally more money to be made in elite boxing than UFC/MMA.

Be interesting to see how Conor would actually get on in a boxing ring, but I think a decent Irish fighter might be a step too far for him, never mind Mayweather.

Mayweather's Dad would be a better fight for McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on May 26, 2016, 10:35:44 AM
*NEW* CONOR MCGREGOR FULL INTERVIEW WITH ESPN - 'MAYWEATHER NEEDS ME'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-6_SDinTBI
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on May 26, 2016, 10:42:43 AM
Aye, OK.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 05:43:00 AM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: downtown on June 05, 2016, 07:59:12 AM
Mc gregor/Diaz confirmed for august
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 10:11:20 AM
Great to see Bisping grasp his shot. Rockhold's cockiness hit him knocked the f**k out. And he deserved it.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on June 05, 2016, 10:16:06 AM
I see your man Helwani got banned from UFC for life.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 05, 2016, 10:27:32 AM
I see your man Helwani got banned from UFC for life.

Are, forgot to mention this. Complete disgrace, they're nothing more than a shower of bullies. The man was doing his job, nothing more.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 05, 2016, 11:18:49 AM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
He'll have to cut back on the angel dust between now and then. Man looks like a bull ready for mart.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Club Rossa on June 05, 2016, 12:16:04 PM
Was so sure Rockhold would handle Bisping I didn't even bother to stay up for it :o watched it this morning and couldn't believe how laid back and relaxed Rockhold looked before it.He said afterwards that he took Bisping for granted.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 05, 2016, 12:34:41 PM
Lesnar back and fighting at 200.
He'll have to cut back on the angel dust between now and then. Man looks like a bull ready for mart.

He's always been a chunky f**ker. Much more of an athlete than guys like Alstair Overeem who are much more of what you're insinuating.

Interesting to see him back. With only a month left to the show this has to be some jobber, surely? WWE say a one-off opportunity but they have to be planning more fights.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 06, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
199 was some card  - may not have looked great on paper but the fighters delivered. The PPV was fantastic.  Funny to see so many americans cheering for Bisping when he won. Maybe because Rockhold is a dick.... Bisping is a likable bollox ha delighted to see him win.  Dan Henderson - wtf was that lol??? Though Max Holloway looked sharp - he has some of the best boxing in MMA I'd love to see him and Diaz box at 155. Poirier looked great dispatching Bobby Green.
Roll on UFC 200 now - was already looking forward to Jones v Cormier but auld Brock adds a bit of excitement to the card! I'd say he gets Mark Hunt or the matchup everyone wants  - Fedor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 06, 2016, 03:35:10 PM
If you haven't seen it, watch the Reyes-Kim bout. Very first one of the day. Brutal stuff.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on June 06, 2016, 03:54:48 PM
199 was some card  - may not have looked great on paper but the fighters delivered. The PPV was fantastic.  Funny to see so many americans cheering for Bisping when he won. Maybe because Rockhold is a dick.... Bisping is a likable bollox ha delighted to see him win.  Dan Henderson - wtf was that lol??? Though Max Holloway looked sharp - he has some of the best boxing in MMA I'd love to see him and Diaz box at 155. Poirier looked great dispatching Bobby Green.
Roll on UFC 200 now - was already looking forward to Jones v Cormier but auld Brock adds a bit of excitement to the card! I'd say he gets Mark Hunt or the matchup everyone wants  - Fedor.

brutal knockout that one. def looked like he caught him with the old headbutt too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 06, 2016, 05:14:19 PM
Lesnar confirmed as fighting Mark Hunt.

KO1 Hunt.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 06, 2016, 06:25:41 PM
Lesnar confirmed as fighting Mark Hunt.

KO1 Hunt.
It's a hard one to call. 1st round KO very possible - but Brock could come out hard and fast and take him down and ground n pound in brutal fashion....I don't think Brock will try to stand with him.  Mir is a JJ guy and has no real wrestling so he couldn't take Hunt down.  Brock should be able to do that (hopefully) before Hunt catches him. Though Hunt is a brute of a man too... legs like tree trunks and shorter...
definitely worth tuning in for!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Gs Man on June 07, 2016, 09:07:41 AM
Kimbo Slice dead.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on June 07, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 07, 2016, 01:33:27 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on June 07, 2016, 04:43:45 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 08, 2016, 05:06:42 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

In fairness now, he came in from fake wrestling after a stellar career as a real wrestler in college. The guy is an athletic freak.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 08, 2016, 05:12:58 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

In fairness now, he came in from fake wrestling after a stellar career as a real wrestler in college. The guy is an athletic freak.
right...my point is though that not competing in MMA for the past 4 years may not make a difference - given how he came into the sport... he became the HW champion in his 4th or 5th fight?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on June 08, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Yeah, but the quality was nowhere near what it is now. He beat Couture to win the title who, while a legend, was about half the size of Lesnar!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: tonto1888 on June 09, 2016, 10:36:54 AM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

not true . He fought for K1 before joining the UFC

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on June 09, 2016, 10:29:49 PM
Leaner should win easy enough.

Rubbish. He won't have fought in four and a half years and well be going up against one of the hardest hitters around. Hunt has decent takedown defense too.
I doubt if lesnar is in any decent shape to fight at all with his well documented health problems however the fight is all about the ratings and money it will make.
Lesnar hadn't competed in MMA at any level when he joined the UFC back in the day.  He came in from fake wrestling and ploughed through some seasoned Heavyweights and I genuinely believe his sickness got the better of him.  If he is healthy now, as he says he is, then he has a real chance to put Hunt down and keep him down for the win.

He is an ego-maniac - he isn't coming to the UFC to take a fall....

not true . He fought for K1 before joining the UFC

http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Brock-Lesnar-17522
he fought for 1.09 in K1 before joining the UFC. His opponent fought 10 times in 4 years and had a record of 3-7.  Although you can technically say he did "compete", in my book 1minute and 9 seconds doesn't constitute much of a build up to enter the UFC.  My point still remains  - the 4 years out of MMA may not make a difference - his strengths today are still what they were - take downs and GnP
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 07, 2016, 05:43:05 AM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 07, 2016, 06:49:06 AM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test

They'll surely wash their hands of him now.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 07, 2016, 04:07:42 PM
Bones Jones out of UFC 200  - sounds like a failed drug test

They'll surely wash their hands of him now.
It's a hard one to call.  PEDs, tainted supplements? I don't know. I've always been a huge fan inside the cage but what a mess the man has made of things outside of it... HE makes a lot of money for the UFC - 200 has lost its main event - Brock and Hunt isn't a main event for me...interested to see what he has to say at the press conference later today...
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 08, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: lurganblue on July 08, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 08, 2016, 04:37:51 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.

Herb Dean had another special in that fight. Should have been stopped before the flying knee.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 08, 2016, 07:48:38 PM
Great win for Duffy last night and Eddie Alvarez takes the LW belt from RDA

Watched a clip on twitter of the Alvarez fight with some commentator completely losing the bap. funniest thing ive seen in a while.

Herb Dean had another special in that fight. Should have been stopped before the flying knee.
think he had to give RDA the benefit of the doubt being the champion.... boys have come back from worse and RDA has a notorious chin
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 09, 2016, 12:47:03 AM
Lesnar looks far from unwell at the weigh in, he looks unreal.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 10:52:06 AM

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/brock-lesnar-ufc-granted-exemption-from-early-drug-testing-ahead-of-ufc-200-060916

And he had the balls to stick the boot into Jones
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 09, 2016, 02:13:15 PM
Lesnar has been tested 6 times by the USADA since he agreed to return
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 09, 2016, 04:54:28 PM
And Lance Armstrong never tested positive. Yeah, the point is that he's supposed to inform of his intention to fight and come out of retirement four months in advance. You only have to look at him to see the guy is juiced up to the gills. He could have been on whatever the hell he wanted for God knows how long.

The use of exemptions, therapeutic or otherwise in sport is scandalous. Floyd Mayweather is a prime example of someone who has far too much influence and gets things whatever way he wants.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 09, 2016, 07:07:00 PM
Lesnar has been tested 6 times by the USADA since he agreed to return

But wasn't allowed to be tested before an agreed date. No prizes for guessing why. USADA aren't daft - they know his system is flushed - but they're making their point.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 09, 2016, 11:21:40 PM
Wasnt allowed? he was a retired sports man. Lesnar has been a freak of nature his whole life but who knows really. 'todays supplements are tomorrows PEDs''
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 09, 2016, 11:33:30 PM
Lesnar looks like a bull ready for mart. A bull that has been on angel dust. Juiced to the eyeballs.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 09, 2016, 11:45:55 PM
Where's a good place to watch this online tonight?

Polish doll is some fighter, she could've went ten rounds
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 10, 2016, 04:11:54 AM

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2016, 05:38:32 AM
Wasnt allowed? he was a retired sports man. Lesnar has been a freak of nature his whole life but who knows really. 'todays supplements are tomorrows PEDs''

Which is why the four month notice period exists. It was waived for Brock.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on July 10, 2016, 07:53:16 AM
Jesus Tait finally gets her belt and then throws it all away against Nunes in the first round.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: DuffleKing on July 10, 2016, 09:09:27 AM

Whole card was thoroughly underwhelming
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 10, 2016, 09:55:08 AM
It was dreadful. Aldo-Edgar was decent I guess.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 10, 2016, 10:11:22 AM
That women's fight on Friday was a cracker.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on July 11, 2016, 12:43:26 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/11/ufc-sale-4bn-dana-white-wme-img?CMP=share_btn_tw

Quote
The UFC has been sold for approximately $4bn to a group led by Hollywood talent agency WME-IMG. The UFC president Dana White confirmed the sale of the mixed martial arts company to The Associated Press on Sunday night.

WME co-CEO Ari Emanuel also announced the sale early Monday in an internal company email that included SNTV — a joint venture between AP and IMG.

“We’ve been honored to have UFC and a number of its athletes as clients and couldn’t be happier to take our relationship to this next level as the organization’s owner and operating partner,” Emanuel said.

White will stay on to run the UFC, which has grown into a global entertainment brand. UFC owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta have left the company after nearly 16 years, although they’ll retain a minority interest. The Abu Dhabi government still owns 10% of the UFC as well.

The New York Times first reported the completion of the long-rumored deal. It has financial backing from private equity firms Silver Lake Partners, which owns WME-IMG, and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, along with the investment firm of billionaire Michael Dell, founder of Dell Computers.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on July 11, 2016, 01:42:37 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jul/11/ufc-sale-4bn-dana-white-wme-img?CMP=share_btn_tw

Quote
The UFC has been sold for approximately $4bn to a group led by Hollywood talent agency WME-IMG. The UFC president Dana White confirmed the sale of the mixed martial arts company to The Associated Press on Sunday night.

WME co-CEO Ari Emanuel also announced the sale early Monday in an internal company email that included SNTV — a joint venture between AP and IMG.

“We’ve been honored to have UFC and a number of its athletes as clients and couldn’t be happier to take our relationship to this next level as the organization’s owner and operating partner,” Emanuel said.

White will stay on to run the UFC, which has grown into a global entertainment brand. UFC owners Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta have left the company after nearly 16 years, although they’ll retain a minority interest. The Abu Dhabi government still owns 10% of the UFC as well.

The New York Times first reported the completion of the long-rumored deal. It has financial backing from private equity firms Silver Lake Partners, which owns WME-IMG, and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts, along with the investment firm of billionaire Michael Dell, founder of Dell Computers.
Decent wee lift for the Fertitti's. $2 million to $4 billion in 16 years.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 11, 2016, 04:27:54 PM
will be interesting to see where they want to go with this. Fertitas custom built that new casion in VEgas for UFC fights - I'd say there is a deal in there to host plenty of events going forward. Some chunk of change....Dana White done alright out of it.... Joe Rogan will likely leave now.  Chael Sonnen could get the nod to replace him or even Dana....
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 04:40:30 PM
Rogan has been talking about leaving for a while and it's not before time. He's become a parody of himself.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on July 11, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
What's the problem with Joe Rogan?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 09:19:11 PM
What's the problem with Joe Rogan?

He's a shite commentator who can't contain himself and resorts to the same exclamations over and over again.

Oh. OHHHH!

He's hurt!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 11, 2016, 09:27:25 PM
I nearly forgot. Away from the UFC, he spouts endless pseudo-intellectual gibberish and is a complete shill for the various sponsors on his podcast which, MMA analysis aside, is largely f**king terrible. He rarely, if ever, challenges any of his guest on anything they say. He had Lance Armstrong on last year and they basically spent three hours spinning Armstrong's story about being a victim. The man is a twat.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on July 16, 2016, 12:11:00 AM
Lesnar popped by USADA.

*so shocked*
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on July 16, 2016, 03:17:58 PM
The strabanimal making his bellator debit tonight live on TV
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on July 18, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
He didn't look as good as he has and his opponent wasn't up to much.... He said afterwards he came through a lot to even get to the cage so I wonder if he was injured or what happened him - I follow him online and there was never any mention of any bother in fact he was out at concerts and parties like any 19 year old.
Gallagher is solid on the ground but his standup isn't there yet and he hasn't KO power. He's the same weight as McGregor and McGregor would eat him for breakfast. He has a long way to go and I know I touted him a few years back as a future champ but I haven't seen enough development to merit that anymore. He's a decent fighter. He has big money backing from KHK MMA and a good gym but he isn't another McGregor and I can't see him holding a belt in Bellator
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 17, 2016, 10:04:37 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: GJL on August 17, 2016, 10:05:56 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier

Getting more like WWF all the time. Hard to take it seriously.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: omagh_gael on August 17, 2016, 10:20:13 PM
That was embarrassing. Vince McMahon would've taken a redner at that shite.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on August 17, 2016, 10:21:57 PM
A farce of a press conference between Diaz and McGregor earlier

Getting more like WWF all the time. Hard to take it seriously.
.

The weigh in will be tasty now after that though. Looking forward to Saturday night!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 17, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
Embarrassing pantomime shite. Actually fancy McGregor in this one for once.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 17, 2016, 10:35:42 PM
It's got everyone talking! Twitter going mad about it and exactly what they wanted!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 17, 2016, 10:42:48 PM
Embarrassing pantomime shite. Actually fancy McGregor in this one for once.

definitely respect your opinion when it comes to MMA - why are going with CMG this time?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 12:13:40 AM
I don't really know. I don't buy into the "McGregor busted him up" for 8 minutes argument as Diaz has always been able to take five shots to land one and, like nick, his face is a mass of scar tissue that cuts easily. Diaz looks in the shape of his life, as does McGregor in fairness. McGregor has obviously paid a lot more attention to his ground hand but I think the fight will be 99% on the feet again and McGregor is definitely more skilled in that aspect. If his conditioning is where it needs to be at 170, I think he can simply outlast Diaz and win by stoppage due to sheer accumulation of strikes. Don't see a knockout gathering from anyone other than Diaz. Just too big and McGregor has to ration his energy a lot more this time.

McGregor win, hell try for fight against Aldo and struggle to make weight, give up 145 belt and go to 155 against Khabib will be champion by then. Then get suplexed into next week.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 18, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
I don't really know. I don't buy into the "McGregor chatted him up" for 8 minutes argument as Diaz has always been able to take five shots to land one and, like nick, his face is a mass of scar tissue that cuts easily. Diaz looks in the shape of his life, as does McGregor in fairness. McGregor has obviously paid a lot more attention to his ground hand but I think the fight will be 99% on the feet again and McGregor is definitely more skilled in that aspect. If his conditioning is where it needs to be at 170, I think he can simply outlast Diaz and win by stoppage due to sheer accumulation of strikes. Don't see a knockout gathering from anyone other than Diaz. Just too big and McGregor has to ration his energy a lot more this time.

McGregor win, hell try for fight against Aldo and struggle to make weight, give up 145 belt and go to 155 against Khabib will be champion by then. Then get suplexed into next week.
I hope you are right about the win.... I just don't see it happening. Diaz' boxing is phenomenal, he knows how to use his reach and i think he is in Mcgregor's head...he also has shown he has the power to rock McGreogr if not stop him on the feet.  Conor has some great kicks and he may well attack that lead leg and the gut but I think Diaz can take those all day and just fight through it.  I agree it won't go to the ground unless Conor is point scoring at the end of the round where Diaz doesn't have enough time to mount an attack from the bottom.

I see a TKO by Diaz in the 3rd.  He's going to talk and talk to Mcgregor and laugh at him and taunt him and McGregor will be like Clubber Lang throwing big bombs and getting tired.  Diaz will eat whatever CMG has to dish out then start popping him...

I said before I'm a fan of Mcgregor - I have his autograph on my bookshelf here in my office.  But this is a bad matchup for him and a loss is a failed experiment at 170.  He already has an exit, an escape route that Diaz talked about and I don't see the hunger when something like that is place....

I'm buying the PPV either way
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 18, 2016, 06:18:44 AM
He'll definitely have to use more kicks to keep Nate off him. He's experimented with oblique kicks before which would be useful as Nate is very heavy on the front foot.

Coming out and throwing bombs is the one thing I don't think he'll do. That's what gassed him in the first fight. He'll still be very active but will pick and choose his shots much more wisely. Speed is the one big accuracy he has.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 19, 2016, 06:38:07 AM
What's the opinion of the old school UFC fans of McGregor? Do they like the pantomime he brings with him cause it increases the popularity of the sport or is he a cancer on the sport that appears to be turning the pre fight stuff anyway into the WWE?

I am new to it but love his shit. Barely watched it before then. First fight I ever seen when I was in Chattanooga in 96 on the ulster project. Couldn't believe what I was seeing. Defo not an expert but watch what I can and will be heading out to a bar full of yanks to cheer him on. Remember going out for the Mendez fight only to find out he is from Hanford about 40 miles from where I live. Had no idea, so when Mendez was getting the better of him the place was going nuts, McGregor hits him a couple of sucks and it's done. Only me and 2 Mexican fellas celebrating the whole place!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 09:03:37 AM
Generally, he's liked because he's undeniably talented in the octagon and, for all his bluster, generally backs it up. Like most people though, able to see that he's a complete tit at times.

I reckon a lot of people are secretly hoping some good comes off the back of the recent friction between him and the powers that be. No fighter in UFC history has ever had more power than him (Lesnar close) so there's a hope that McGregor could spearhead a bit of a revolution in terms of fighter welfare. Don't see it happening myself though.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JoG2 on August 19, 2016, 09:39:25 AM
Outside of McGregor I know diddly about UFC. I watched the last fight, and seeing the condition Diaz is in compared to the last outing, I'd fear he'll win again, albeit it might last longer. McGregor has won me over though, I'd really like to see him win.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 19, 2016, 10:31:10 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 10:52:25 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?

He's only been stopped once. Diaz's cardio is superb. Unlikely to tire. Hopefully McGregor has learned that it's not as easy to knock out bigger fighters with one punch and doesn't try and throw an absolute bomb of a left hand at every opportunity.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 19, 2016, 11:03:49 AM
Hope I'm wrong but I can't see how McGregor can win it. People say he's the better boxer - but you saw in the previous fight how powerful Diaz was when he got through just before they went to ground. And if it does hit the floor there's only one winner too.

Maybe he can do an Ali and tire Diaz out. How has Diaz tended to lose his fights?

Im no expert in UFC, but based on the last fight, it's more likely that McGregor will be the one to tire first.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: nrico2006 on August 19, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
McGreor will be smarter and pace himself.  He won't throw power shots every time and as for the last fight, it was a combination of fighting carrying an extra two stone that he wasn't used to as well along with putting everything into every punch that tired him.  I'm sure the past few months have got him accustomed to carrying the extra weight and endurance won't be a problem.  Still would favour Diaz simply due to his size, but he has been beat a lot and has been knocked out before too.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 19, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
McGreor will be smarter and pace himself.  He won't throw power shots every time and as for the last fight, it was a combination of fighting carrying an extra two stone that he wasn't used to as well along with putting everything into every punch that tired him.  I'm sure the past few months have got him accustomed to carrying the extra weight and endurance won't be a problem.  Still would favour Diaz simply due to his size, but he has been beat a lot and has been knocked out before too.

I think if McGregor stays away from the big shots and stays off the ground he's probably the better striker. . . If he can pace himself and pick off Diaz with jabs the whole time he could well win the fight on points!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 19, 2016, 01:59:24 PM
Is this bandwagon out of the garage again? Someone will win this fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 03:53:51 PM
You never know which fight is going to be good but based on past performance you can have a good idea of what to tune in for.  For the newer fans I would encourage you to watch:
Main card  - last 3 fights  - definitely watch all three.
O the undercard - Garbrandt v Mizugaki
Magny v Larkin

If i was a betting man I would do a wee accumulator on Avila, Garbrandt, Cerrone, Diaz
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
Cerrone has looked absolutely nasty at welterweight. Last fight on his contact so interesting to see what happens after.

Can't see anything other than a big Rumble KO in the co-main.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 19, 2016, 05:26:02 PM
Wouldn't have too much knowledge about the UFC at all, but ran into a female UFC fighter who is firmly in the Diaz camp during the week. She suggested CMG didn't have much chance at all. I didn't read back here, but how much was made or not made of the fact that Diaz took the first fight on 11 days notice - while in the midst of a party somewhere on the ocean. Granted CMG only had 11 days to change his style to suit the new opponent, but the suggestion from this lass was that the result will remain the same.

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 05:41:11 PM
Wouldn't have too much knowledge about the UFC at all, but ran into a female UFC fighter who is firmly in the Diaz camp during the week. She suggested CMG didn't have much chance at all. I didn't read back here, but how much was made or not made of the fact that Diaz took the first fight on 11 days notice - while in the midst of a party somewhere on the ocean. Granted CMG only had 11 days to change his style to suit the new opponent, but the suggestion from this lass was that the result will remain the same.
100% agree.  Will be a good fight but a bad matchup for CMG
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gawa316 on August 19, 2016, 06:13:26 PM
What type of fighters did Diaz lose to then? His record isn't that great
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 19, 2016, 06:34:18 PM
read back through the thread - i broke it down for the first fight
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 19, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
McGregor at 168, did at 171.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 19, 2016, 08:20:09 PM
McGregor at 168, did at 171.

Where's Mickey Harte with the coffee beans when you need him.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 19, 2016, 10:57:10 PM
November 19 - UFC Fight Night : Belfast
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 01:03:24 AM
What happens if there are quick finishes to the undercard? Do they bomb ahead anyway?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gmac on August 21, 2016, 01:05:39 AM
Diaz looks in some shape compared to last fight And has got under Mcgregors skin big time.
Don't see the result being any different unless cmc can strike and move and go the distance.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 21, 2016, 01:09:27 AM
What happens if there are quick finishes to the undercard? Do they bomb ahead anyway?
Presume on PPV you're tied to agreed schedules for advertising etc.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 01:11:29 AM
Up Randa Markos
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 21, 2016, 01:11:59 AM
what time the fight start?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 21, 2016, 03:12:06 AM
what time the fight start?

Right now!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 03:53:55 AM
Cerrone for this one lads? Complete clueless newbie tbh
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 04:22:45 AM
Cerrone handy win

Next up Teixiera and Johnson I think
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 04:31:50 AM
Jesus. Some punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 04:33:17 AM
Holy crap.  Big Anthony Johnson. Big big punch.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 04:33:23 AM
Can't see anything other than a big Rumble KO in the co-main.

Well then.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 04:34:19 AM
Was that Teixiera tooth that went flying during the knock out?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2016, 04:39:09 AM
Huge punch!!!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 04:41:32 AM
Interesting point for anyone new to watching about how far the sport has come in terms of regulation etc. Anthony Johnson used to cut down to welterweight, the weight McGregor and Diaz are fighting at.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 21, 2016, 04:49:34 AM
Some experience for Conor Wallace, he's in McGregor's corner tonight as well.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: JimStynes on August 21, 2016, 05:09:48 AM
Mcgregor slowing big time
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:10:32 AM
What is McGregor at? Twice he could have finished this fight but allowed Diaz up.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Puckoon on August 21, 2016, 05:13:40 AM
Diaz is in control
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: BennyHarp on August 21, 2016, 05:14:39 AM
McGregor goosed here by the looks of it!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:15:46 AM
What is McGregor at? Twice he could have finished this fight but allowed Diaz up.

They were flash knockdowns, Diaz was defending on his back immediately. McGregor didn't want to risk getting into a ground fight with a guy with much superior BJJ.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:20:05 AM
Great recovery round from McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Medic on August 21, 2016, 05:22:56 AM
209 needs a stoppage
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 21, 2016, 05:28:24 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: NetNitrate on August 21, 2016, 05:31:33 AM
First time I watched MMA. Was a great fight. 50/50 really in the end.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:32:09 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.

The two of them clearly like each other and did so before this fight.

I think fair enough decision. The takedown probably sealed the fifth for Diaz to make it 48-47. I think McGregor clearly won the first, fourth and i think he did enough in the first three and a half minutes of the second to win it before Diaz came on strong.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: ONeill on August 21, 2016, 05:33:54 AM
McGregor had to dig deep there in the middle. Seemed gassed. Well executed fight plan.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: heganboy on August 21, 2016, 05:39:51 AM
holy crap- that was some fight, mcgregor did enough in the first 3 to hold on. he boxed the head off him, and I disagree with captain obvious, I think mcgregor stayed the hell away from the ground war. I think he would have taken a beating there, had to stay on his feet to hold the points victory.
Round 3?

Can Diaz really fight at 155?
6 foot and 155 against the guy at his natural weight, i think he'd be in bother.

Man that is a brutal exhibition there. Some advertisement for the sport.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Asal Mor on August 21, 2016, 05:43:22 AM
He'll definitely have to use more kicks to keep Nate off him. He's experimented with oblique kicks before which would be useful as Nate is very heavy on the front foot.

Coming out and throwing bombs is the one thing I don't think he'll do. That's what gassed him in the first fight. He'll still be very active but will pick and choose his shots much more wisely. Speed is the one big accuracy he has.
Good prediction gallsman. Fascinating fight. Always find UFC a far more gripping watch than boxing. Full of admiration for those fighters.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:49:48 AM
McGregor broken foot apparently. Diaz checked some of the kicks so potentially broke it on his shin and might explain why he laid off the kicks. Dunno when it happened but shows McGregor's toughness as he didn't give a hint of it at all, didn't complain about it in his interview.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 05:55:25 AM

Can Diaz really fight at 155?
6 foot and 155 against the guy at his natural weight, i think he'd be in bother.

Diaz is a big, big lightweight but not a particularly big welterweight. Lightweight is his true home. The amount of water these guys cut to make weight is insane. If (there will be, although not immediately) there's a third fight with millions on the line, Diaz will make weight without too much difficulty. These two fights haven't really been welterweight fights - they've been lightweight fights without a cut.

155 is McGregor's real home too. He should be done at 170 as true, elite welterweights would murder him - GSP, MacDonald, Wonderboy etc. If he can make 145 again, do it for Aldo rematch and possibly Edgar (although less important and relevant after Aldo dismantled at 200) and that should be him done at 145.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: on the sideline on August 21, 2016, 06:05:25 AM
Some respect between the two at the end wasn't expecting that.

The two of them clearly like each other and did so before this fight.

I think fair enough decision. The takedown probably sealed the fifth for Diaz to make it 48-47. I think McGregor clearly won the first, fourth and i think he did enough in the first three and a half minutes of the second to win it before Diaz came on strong.

That's how I scored it as well. Thought he was gone at the end of the 3rd round. The fourth was a phenomenal recovery.  Fair play to him.  Thought his defence of the takedowns was excellent. 
Great fight from both of them. Every round felt like it flew watching it - apart from the last one in round three where he was holding on big time.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:31:47 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: take_yer_points on August 21, 2016, 10:54:16 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

http://www.benchwarmers.ie/bench/watch-conor-mcgregor-vs-nate-diaz-ii-ufc-202-full-fight/70036/#.V7lzfK_TWBZ
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 10:55:17 AM
Thanks lad.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 11:53:43 AM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

You have sports mania, no? They have a great on demand section. Fights will always be in there a few hours after they finish.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on August 21, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
Hopefully that's McGregor's experimenting at 170 done, if he had to dig that deep every time he would get caught eventually. Go back to 155 and stick to where he is good.

Anyone watch the press conference, Diaz asked what was he was inhaling, CBT oil for recovery.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 01:37:50 PM
I got up at half 5 to watch it and the fecking thing was over  ::)
Anywhere I can  watch it today?

You have sports mania, no? They have a great on demand section. Fights will always be in there a few hours after they finish.
Yeah found it on the VOD section.

I know little to nothing about UFC and have only ever watched McGregor's fights before.
Could that have gone the other way last night? There didn't seem to be a clear winner in my mind anyway.
Just wondering  maybe McGregor was given it so that there would be a 3rd fight?
Like I said I know very little about the sport so maybe McGregor was a clear winner to those who understand the scoring.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 21, 2016, 01:55:03 PM
I don't think it could have been a Diaz win. At a stretch a draw. McGregor clearly won the first and fourth and Diaz the third. In all likelihood Diaz won the fifth due to pressure and the takedown at the end sealing it, so it all depends on the second.

In that round McGregor dominated for 3 and a half minutes and put him on his back twice before gassing a bit and Diaz was able to come back and put a lot of pressure on. McGregor was able to soak up the pressure and a lot of Diaz's shots were wild and blocked. So for me, I think it as "clear" a 3-2 as can be.

All three judges scored it 3-2, except one gave Diaz the third 10-8, which I disagree with. If you were to give him a 10-8 there you'd have to say McGregor deserved a 10-8 in the first.

Vast majority of media scored it 48-47, some called it a draw and I think I saw one giving it to Diaz. You really have to stretch for the draw but there's no way Diaz won.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2016, 01:57:51 PM
Thought the knockdowns were enough for McGregor to get it I thought.

Diaz and McGregor are both hard as f**king nails I wonder how long McGregor fought with a broken foot I couldn't see an obvious incident where it happened and he was hobbling. His cardio needs a lot of work he gassed put at least twice and was lucky enough to summon something up to keep fighting.

Very enjoyable scrap!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: laoislad on August 21, 2016, 02:03:28 PM
I don't think it could have been a Diaz win. At a stretch a draw. McGregor clearly won the first and fourth and Diaz the third. In all likelihood Diaz won the fifth due to pressure and the takedown at the end sealing it, so it all depends on the second.

In that round McGregor dominated for 3 and a half minutes and put him on his back twice before gassing a bit and Diaz was able to come back and put a lot of pressure on. McGregor was able to soak up the pressure and a lot of Diaz's shots were wild and blocked. So for me, I think it as "clear" a 3-2 as can be.

All three judges scored it 3-2, except one gave Diaz the third 10-8, which I disagree with. If you were to give him a 10-8 there you'd have to say McGregor deserved a 10-8 in the first.

Vast majority of media scored it 48-47, some called it a draw and I think I saw one giving it to Diaz. You really have to stretch for the draw but there's no way Diaz won.
Fair enough.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: midLouth on August 21, 2016, 02:22:15 PM
I don't think it could have been a Diaz win. At a stretch a draw. McGregor clearly won the first and fourth and Diaz the third. In all likelihood Diaz won the fifth due to pressure and the takedown at the end sealing it, so it all depends on the second.

In that round McGregor dominated for 3 and a half minutes and put him on his back twice before gassing a bit and Diaz was able to come back and put a lot of pressure on. McGregor was able to soak up the pressure and a lot of Diaz's shots were wild and blocked. So for me, I think it as "clear" a 3-2 as can be.

All three judges scored it 3-2, except one gave Diaz the third 10-8, which I disagree with. If you were to give him a 10-8 there you'd have to say McGregor deserved a 10-8 in the first.

Vast majority of media scored it 48-47, some called it a draw and I think I saw one giving it to Diaz. You really have to stretch for the draw but there's no way Diaz won.

Nice break down of where it was decided. I think ppl weight what they see in some rounds higher than others because it seems more devastating rather than seeing each round as a contest on their own.

The take down in the end was going to come at some stage and the longer Mcgregor could hold out the less chance Diaz was going to get a tap out. Each of the times McGregor landed him on the ground he let him get straight up, Diaz would have loved to get him on the ground.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 07:22:33 AM
I thought it was relatively easy to score

Rounds 1, 2, 4 to McGregor
Rounds 3, 5 to Diaz

Rounds 1 and 3 very convincing. The others tighter, but still daylight between them in each
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 09:13:39 AM
As I said, there only contentious one was the second. I thought it was McGregor's but could see why someone might call it a draw the way Diaz came back and had him in trouble.

Additionally, you could see why someone might give Diaz a 10-8 in the third. It's about points scored, not rounds won.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 11:54:23 AM
Just looking at the judges scorecards there... what constitutes a 10-8 round? I thought McGregor's first round domination and knockdown merited a 10-8.

In the second round he dropped him twice but Diaz did well to have McGregor reeling coming to the end of it so I think the 10-9 was probably fair for it.

Just curious as to the scoring.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 12:24:15 PM
It's actually undergoing a change in language at the moment. Knockdown is different from in boxing - it doesn't automatically score 10-8. When assessing whether a round should be 10-8 or not, judges are asked to look at dominance, duration and impact/damage. The knockdowns would influence the damage component of that, but Diaz was never really that hurt and was defending immediately. Same as for McGregor in the third - he was blocking and slipping enough shots that, while exhausted, he was never really rocked the way he was in the first fight.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 03:57:04 PM
202 was some card - not sure if you got a chance to watch all the fights but some great scraps and the UFC now has a lot of options and a lot of fighters futures to consider....

Larkin comes back in to contention and his contract is done...this man beat Robbie Lawler and could well do again... do you let him go or resign him on bigger money and push him?

Cerrone... 155 or 170? I agree with Uncle Dana and say keep him at 170 - we need some more excitement there.. and he has looked excellent at the weight.

McGregor and Diaz. What can I say? McGregor completely surprised me.  I didn't think he had it in him. I was delighted to see him winning but I genuinely thought Diaz would have been too much for him.  He followed the blue print a few of us called out before their first fight and he got the win in a spectacular war.  I've watched the fight 3 times now (once with Joe Rogan turned off) and it was definitely a fair result.  As was said 1 and 4 definitely McGregor, 3 and 5 definitely Diaz.  Two things - Diaz definitely did not score a 10-8 round in the 3rd - he was landing lots of shots but McGreogr was intelligently defending himself.  If the 3rd was a 10-8 then the 1st should be too...  Diaz was lucky to win the 5th - the take down and overall aggression won the round for him.  Now the contentious 2nd round....I couldn't give it to Diaz.  McGregor knocked him down, landed a lot of clean shots then tired in the last 90 seconds where Diaz was the aggressor.  Too little too late. 

Diaz' excuses after the fight were a surprise.  I don't think not being able to train BJJ for a few weeks made a difference. Diaz like most pure BJJ guys is not a wrestler. He struggles to take a fight to the ground but can finish you in a second when it goes there.  He has a trip and a hip throw and that body lock drag down he caught Conor with - but that's really it.  McGregor didn't show great takedown defense - he just fought someone who isn't great at takedowns.  Compare the takedowns of Chad Mendes to Diaz....
Diaz ate a bunch of body shots so I struggle to believe he had a bruised rib and McGregor couldn't hurt him... you can't hide a rib injury...

I'd love to see a 3rd fight.  Diaz of course wants it because he can't get millions for another fight...McGregor would be smart to take it and make some more coin...he's on some bank roll...

Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 03:59:40 PM
I see they've announced the official purses for the fights:

Conor McGregor: $3 million (no win bonus)
 def. Nate Diaz: $2 million

Anthony Johnson: $270,000 (includes $135,000 win bonus)
 def. Glover Teixeira: $65,000

Donald Cerrone: $170,000 (includes $85,000 win bonus)
 def. Rick Story: $41,000

Mike Perry: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
 def. Hyun Gyu Lim: $18,000

Tim Means: $62,000 (includes $31,000 win bonus)
 def. Sabah Homasi: $12,000

Cody Garbrandt: $54,000 (includes $27,000 win bonus)
 def. Takeya Mizugaki: $39,000

Raquel Pennington: $46,000 (includes $23,000 win bonus)
 def. Elizabeth Phillips: $12,000

Artem Lobov: $26,000 (includes $13,000 win bonus)
 def. Chris Avila: $10,000

Cortney Casey: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
 def. Randa Markos: $14,000

Lorenz Larkin: $78,000 (includes $39,000 win bonus)
 def. Neil Magny: $47,000

Colby Covington: $42,000 (includes $21,000 win bonus)
 def. Max Griffin: $10,000

Marvin Vettori: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
 def. Alberto Uda: $10,000

McGregor and Diaz also got $50k each "fight of the night" bonus.

They both would get Reebok sponsorship money too, estimated to be $250k each.

But the big kicker is the PPV share, which is estimated to be somewhere in the region of $10m each (with McGregor to get $1m more than Diaz).

In Diaz's last fight before the McGregor fights, he picked up $40k!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:24:15 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Hound on August 22, 2016, 04:39:22 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
It's a good thing for McGregor rather than a negative.
The deal was $3M for McGregor and $2M for Diaz guaranteed regardless of who wins.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 04:42:33 PM
Because he's getting a guaranteed 3m! His 1m for the first fight was the biggest in history, then Brock juiced his way to 2.5m for 200 then McGregor topped it.

I agree with Iceman - great card from beginning to end. Far better than 200. Keep an eye on the bantamweight Cody Garbrandt. He's on an absolute tear and could be the man to stop Cruz
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2016, 04:43:08 PM
Why does McGregor not get a win bonus??
It's a good thing for McGregor rather than a negative.
The deal was $3M for McGregor and $2M for Diaz guaranteed regardless of who wins.

Crazy money . . . wasn't that long ago we heard the famous "60G's BABY!!"

It seems like such an insignificant amount now!
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 04:45:43 PM
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 22, 2016, 04:45:56 PM
McGregor and Diaz getting a cut of the PPV money as well - they'll both walk away with close to $10million each
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 05:58:07 PM
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.
Larkin and Cerrone would be a good scrap
Lawler and Nick Diaz on same card...
Interesting to see what they do for MSG
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Cunny Funt on August 22, 2016, 06:23:42 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DylansFreshTake/status/767763301962883072?p=v Did Brock Lesnar think he was fighting at UFC PPV instead of WWE summerslam last night? His opponent Orton needed 10 staples in his head after the match.



Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: Syferus on August 22, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DylansFreshTake/status/767763301962883072?p=v Did Brock Lesnar think he was fighting at UFC PPV instead of WWE summerslam last night? His opponent Orton needed 10 staples in his head after the match.

That's nothing in pro wrestling.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: STREET FIGHTER on August 22, 2016, 08:41:53 PM
Quote from: gallsman link=topic=6638.msg1618774#msg161?8774 date=1471880743
As for Cerrone, I thinking he'll come up short once he gets to the real contenders at 170. If he wants a belt, chasing the lightweight one is still his best option.

Thought Cerrone finish was unreal...

You think he's not got enough at 170 for the main men GM?

Don't know enough about it to be honest.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: gallsman on August 22, 2016, 08:53:39 PM
Story was 9th ranked and that was a generous ranking. Woodley, Lawler, Wonderboy (the best striker in the sport), Macdonald and GSP when he comes back would absolutely maul him in my opinion. Dos Anjos knocked him out in a minute last December.

Cerrone against Gunnar would be interesting.
Title: Re: The Official UFC Thread
Post by: The Iceman on August 22, 2016, 08:58:06 PM
Story was 9th ranked and that was a generous ranking. Woodley, Lawler, Wonderboy (the best striker in the sport), Macdonald and GSP when he comes back would absolutely maul him in my opinion. Dos Anjos knocked him out in a minute last December.

Cerrone against Gunnar would be interesting.