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Title: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 12:10:51 AM
Has there been one???

What the f**k do all the suits in Croke Park get paid for if not for moments like this??!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Solo_run on March 12, 2020, 12:22:01 AM
They don't want their revenue to take a hit.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: balladmaker on March 12, 2020, 12:35:52 AM
Can’t imagine any GAA games being played behind closed doors.

Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: giveballaghback on March 12, 2020, 01:06:37 AM
Can’t imagine any GAA games being played behind closed doors.
Yes it will happen, if not this weekend then next weekend. They will want to complete the league before going into shutdown untill this is under control. I can see them cancelling the divisional finals and declaring the table toppers winners. What is happening in Cheltenham is wreckless at best and in a quickly evolving situation common sence must prevail.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: lenny on March 12, 2020, 07:24:24 AM
Has there been one???

What the f**k do all the suits in Croke Park get paid for if not for moments like this??!!

This is starting to move fast now. I can see a situation where the whole season is decimated. County championship and club football will be condensed into a small window between july, august and september if we can get it under control. The problem is there’s likely to be a second wave in the autumn.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: AFM on March 12, 2020, 07:35:33 AM
Walked into toilets in Brewster park and walked out, think there was one sink in corner and 50 people in the "building", all GAA grounds wouldn't have the best hygiene in the toilet department!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Taylor on March 12, 2020, 07:45:29 AM
Frankly I believe the GAA's response has been an absolute disgrace.

Safety of its members should be paramount - remember this is an amateur organisation with amateurs at the heart of the organisation.

As it stands the league games go ahead and our kids also have games this weekend.

Shocking
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: AFM on March 12, 2020, 07:49:36 AM
They need to keep the money flowing in, it always is and always will be about the money.  Sure there are individuals on here who's attitude is feck it just the old and sick will die, there's no accounting for folk.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Itchy on March 12, 2020, 08:22:10 AM
Our club went looking for some advice on what to publish to our members. Zero from the county board. Would you believe, some of county board are actually in Cheltenham! In the end I looked around and found on Cavan GAA twitter a modest update (My current club not in Cavan) and I found some good updates from individual clubs out there who took the lead on this themselves. So we have put something out to our members on social media. Its really poor from the GAA, no leadership what so ever.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Last Caress on March 12, 2020, 08:48:58 AM
Our club has posted advice to its members and players (of all age groups). At least they have taken steps.
Nothing from the County Board (that I'm aware of). Fixtures will be suspended.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: ck on March 12, 2020, 10:04:14 AM
My son plays basketball, all of his training and matches are now off for the foreseeable future. They got their direction from basketball Ireland - his GAA team are playing away and the club say they have had no direction from anyone. They have training tonight, as have the girls team and seniors. The club will be a hive of activity, as will most clubs.
Either the GAA have their heads in the sand or they have a clear strategy that they are following. Not sure which.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Captain Scarlet on March 12, 2020, 10:33:55 AM
The last two rounds should be behind closed doors.
Ideally an exception could be made for a local streaming services to broadcast any that are not on TV.

How many young and older bucks are due back around the clubs after coming back from Cheltenham? If they go training with lads this weekend the whole thing could be done either way and the club championships are fecked if cases start popping up.

Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 10:34:11 AM
My son plays basketball, all of his training and matches are now off for the foreseeable future. They got their direction from basketball Ireland - his GAA team are playing away and the club say they have had no direction from anyone. They have training tonight, as have the girls team and seniors. The club will be a hive of activity, as will most clubs.
Either the GAA have their heads in the sand or they have a clear strategy that they are following. Not sure which.

Nobody is sure... if they are following a clear strategy why aren't they telling us they're doing this??

Make a decision and explain it this doing nothing head in the sand nonsense does nobody any good!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Solo_run on March 12, 2020, 10:39:50 AM
GAA are part of the problem and it goes to show when there is a crisis they have no leadership. The GAA should have it's members as the number 1 priority. While some consider it an extreme measure playing games behind closed, it is a sensible measure. It is a better option than giving a virus free reign to travel from person to person across different parts of the country.



Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 11:17:00 AM
The GPA have even released some guidelines!!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: naka on March 12, 2020, 11:28:12 AM
call the season off
positions as is  deal with promotion and relegation
this is a serious issue we are facing and the suits in Dublin need to show keadership
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Last Caress on March 12, 2020, 11:49:07 AM
Croke park will surely be making a stated in light of the announcement by Leo.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 12, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
Forget behind closed doors matches. Cancel the matches. Players and back room team will still be at risk.

If there’s no All Ireland championships this year, well then, that’s just the way it is. It’s only sport. Peoples lives are far more important.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 12, 2020, 12:02:19 PM
call the season off
positions as is  deal with promotion and relegation
this is a serious issue we are facing and the suits in Dublin need to show keadership

Call the season off and forget about promotion and relegation.

Same teams in same divisions next year and go again.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: clarshack on March 12, 2020, 12:12:00 PM
call the season off
positions as is  deal with promotion and relegation
this is a serious issue we are facing and the suits in Dublin need to show keadership

Call the season off and forget about promotion and relegation.

Same teams in same divisions next year and go again.


so long as Tyrone can play Kerry and Dublin again next year on bad pitches.

in all seriousness, i have to agree that the GAA response has been really poor on this. they need to make a statement asap.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Angelo on March 12, 2020, 12:22:56 PM
Potential for this week's league games now to be cancelled going by Varadkar's statement?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 12, 2020, 12:25:44 PM
Potential for this week's league games now to be cancelled going by Varadkar's statement?

I took it as they were definitely going to be off.

If you were a player, would you want to play?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Angelo on March 12, 2020, 12:37:38 PM
Potential for this week's league games now to be cancelled going by Varadkar's statement?

I took it as they were definitely going to be off.

If you were a player, would you want to play?

You'd assume so but nothing official yet from the GAA.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 12:51:57 PM
Dublin have shut everything down. . . terrible that the a unit of the GAA is showing more leadership than the governing body!!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: ck on March 12, 2020, 12:54:21 PM
GAA are meeting this afternoon "to make a decision" according to recent release.

No panic there lads, take your time!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2020, 01:01:36 PM
Dublin have shut everything down. . . terrible that the a unit of the GAA is showing more leadership than the governing body!!!
Presumably all the CC delegates/members would have to be consulted plus Co Chairs etc before any announcement.
We wouldn't want the paid "suits in Croke Park" dictating would we?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2020, 01:01:59 PM
Antrim GAA have requested that clubs suspend all activities from tomorrow until further notice..
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: thewobbler on March 12, 2020, 01:20:45 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: ck on March 12, 2020, 01:33:21 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Ambrose on March 12, 2020, 01:38:01 PM
GAA will confirm in next hour that as of midnight there is a blanket ban on ALL activity at every age level.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 12, 2020, 01:38:53 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

You didn't need to make a decision on a shutdown a few weeks ago.

More like recommended advice on what to do now, what is the path forward and what the trigger points for any decisions will be.

With that framework in place, then everyone knows where they stand as the situation evolves.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: thewobbler on March 12, 2020, 01:40:59 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rudi on March 12, 2020, 01:47:48 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

I agree Wobbler - however we live in an age of social media crazed fanatics.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 01:48:33 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

But things changed this morning... why were Dublin Antrim and Meath able to make the call and the GAA weren’t?

Also their silence on the whole issue for the past few weeks isn’t on as the largest community organisation in the country it had a duty to communicate much more with its members and it didn’t!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Keyser soze on March 12, 2020, 01:49:45 PM
Wobbler you are wasting your time, anyone that thinks dealing with Covid 19 is the responsibility of the GAA is beyond rational argument, a wry smile at the idiots and let them post their nonsense unmolested. 
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: AFM on March 12, 2020, 01:49:58 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Did every u7 know where their managers / coaches visited lately, who they were in contact with, who had drank from the communal water bottles being fired around - stop trying to score points I know more than you and get the f**k of your high horse.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: AFM on March 12, 2020, 01:50:43 PM
Wobbler you are wasting your time, anyone that thinks dealing with Covid 19 is the responsibility of the GAA is beyond rational argument, a wry smile at the idiots and let them post their nonsense unmolested.

A ridiculous statement - who said it was!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2020, 01:52:42 PM
Could they not finish the last 2 rounds of the League in Dubai or somewhere there is no Covid 19 restriction ?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: thewobbler on March 12, 2020, 01:54:42 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

But things changed this morning... why were Dublin Antrim and Meath able to make the call and the GAA weren’t?

Also their silence on the whole issue for the past few weeks isn’t on as the largest community organisation in the country it had a duty to communicate much more with its members and it didn’t!!

Why were Dublin, Antrim and Meath able to make the call?

1. Because the government did it for them.
2. Most likely dictated by the chair/Secretary CEO, and agreed (ironically) on WhatsApp this morning. It’s a no brainer once schools are closed.
3. The GAA has a wider remit than any county board, including cross-jurisdiction.


——

Why the silence the past fortnight?

You seem to be confusing the GAA with government. When the latter is being covert, sensitive, wary, unsure, it’s not the role of a sporting association to ride in with guns firing.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: trueblue1234 on March 12, 2020, 01:54:46 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Having a different point of view from yours isn't being demanding or twisty. It's an opinion. I think the GAA should have taken the lead. It's a sporting organisation. So it's a much easier decision to make for the GAA than for the schools and businesses. You could argue that the kids sit beside each other in school therefore closing anything is pointless. It's not. It reduces the risk. Maybe not substantially but anything that can help at this earlier stage should be done.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 02:24:19 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

But things changed this morning... why were Dublin Antrim and Meath able to make the call and the GAA weren’t?

Also their silence on the whole issue for the past few weeks isn’t on as the largest community organisation in the country it had a duty to communicate much more with its members and it didn’t!!

Why were Dublin, Antrim and Meath able to make the call?

1. Because the government did it for them.
2. Most likely dictated by the chair/Secretary CEO, and agreed (ironically) on WhatsApp this morning. It’s a no brainer once schools are closed.
3. The GAA has a wider remit than any county board, including cross-jurisdiction.


——

Why the silence the past fortnight?

You seem to be confusing the GAA with government. When the latter is being covert, sensitive, wary, unsure, it’s not the role of a sporting association to ride in with guns firing.

The Government at least released guidelines the GAA didn't even have so much as a video on how to wash your hands properly . . . they have a far greater reach than the news or traditional media would. They have a health and wellbeing unit in Croke Park surely this falls into their remit!

I also don't buy the County boards shutting down before the GAA presumably they had to do this in conjunction with the GAA in which case should the organisation as a whole not have taken the lead??

Why were basketball Ireland able to call a full shutdown last night while they GAA had to wait until after it's individual units had gone ahead with it?

At the end of the day the right decision was made but the GAA should learn lessons for the next time we have a situation like this and going forward as there will be more hard choices to make before this situation abates.

They're called the leadership for a reason... they need to lead!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GaillimhIarthair on March 12, 2020, 02:26:37 PM
This has just been issued to season ticket holders -

   
Covid-19 - GAA Allianz National League Update


A Chara

In light of this morning’s Government announcement, the GAA, An Cumann Camógaíochta and the Ladies Gaelic Football Association have decided to suspend all activity at club, county and educational levels until March 29 (inclusive) from midnight.

This is to include all games, training and team gatherings at all ages and all grades.

We will continue to liaise with Government officials and review the situation between now and the end of the month, assessing the impact of these measures on our competitions.

In the meantime, the Association is encouraging all members to continue to follow the guidelines which have been provided by the Health Authorities.

GAA Ticket Office
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 12, 2020, 02:29:36 PM
Better late than never but was a little slower than it should have been.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: NAG1 on March 12, 2020, 02:42:03 PM
Better late than never but was a little slower than it should have been.

What less than a couple of hours after the government statement to the same effect, after following advice of government departments for the previous couple of weeks?  ::)
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: johnnycool on March 12, 2020, 02:42:29 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

But things changed this morning... why were Dublin Antrim and Meath able to make the call and the GAA weren’t?

Also their silence on the whole issue for the past few weeks isn’t on as the largest community organisation in the country it had a duty to communicate much more with its members and it didn’t!!

Why were Dublin, Antrim and Meath able to make the call?

1. Because the government did it for them.
2. Most likely dictated by the chair/Secretary CEO, and agreed (ironically) on WhatsApp this morning. It’s a no brainer once schools are closed.
3. The GAA has a wider remit than any county board, including cross-jurisdiction.


——

Why the silence the past fortnight?

You seem to be confusing the GAA with government. When the latter is being covert, sensitive, wary, unsure, it’s not the role of a sporting association to ride in with guns firing.

The Government at least released guidelines the GAA didn't even have so much as a video on how to wash your hands properly . . . they have a far greater reach than the news or traditional media would. They have a health and wellbeing unit in Croke Park surely this falls into their remit!

I also don't buy the County boards shutting down before the GAA presumably they had to do this in conjunction with the GAA in which case should the organisation as a whole not have taken the lead??

Why were basketball Ireland able to call a full shutdown last night while they GAA had to wait until after it's individual units had gone ahead with it?

At the end of the day the right decision was made but the GAA should learn lessons for the next time we have a situation like this and going forward as there will be more hard choices to make before this situation abates.

They're called the leadership for a reason... they need to lead!!

FFS, are we wanting the GAA to tell us how to wash our hands now?

Come on people, get real now.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 12, 2020, 03:10:08 PM
They'll want the GAA to wipe their behind next  ::)
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 12, 2020, 03:59:54 PM
Better late than never but was a little slower than it should have been.

What less than a couple of hours after the government statement to the same effect, after following advice of government departments for the previous couple of weeks?  ::)


I expect us to lead that's all.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: five points on March 12, 2020, 04:03:08 PM
Nobody died because the GAA waited til the afternoon today rather than rushing an announcement ahead of the government.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: thewobbler on March 12, 2020, 04:50:10 PM
Nobody died because the GAA waited til the afternoon today rather than rushing an announcement ahead of the government.

Didn’t you hear? Two juggernauts are currently on a road not big enough for both, and look like meeting each other head at some indiscernible time in the future. Had the GAA been bothered to put a few “slow down” signs on the road last week, this surely would have helped.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: balladmaker on March 12, 2020, 04:58:00 PM
Personally, I'm disappointed, was really looking forward to Armagh v Roscommon on Saturday night, but we're in a unique situation at present.  I'd a weird feeling leaving Enniskillen last weekend that it could be the last game for a while, and here we are.  I think a resumption in 2 weeks is very optimistic, but here's hoping.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rudi on March 12, 2020, 04:59:40 PM
Better late than never but was a little slower than it should have been.

What less than a couple of hours after the government statement to the same effect, after following advice of government departments for the previous couple of weeks?  ::)


I expect us to lead that's all.

Why would the GAA lead on this, have they the relevant medical experts to come to medical conclusions. The government has medical advisors to advise - so the government leads and the GAA follows. This is exactly what happened here. Exactly how it should be.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 12, 2020, 05:17:58 PM
Better late than never but was a little slower than it should have been.

What less than a couple of hours after the government statement to the same effect, after following advice of government departments for the previous couple of weeks?  ::)


I expect us to lead that's all.

Why would the GAA lead on this, have they the relevant medical experts to come to medical conclusions. The government has medical advisors to advise - so the government leads and the GAA follows. This is exactly what happened here. Exactly how it should be.

As the largest community organisation in the country should the GAA not have been proactive with the authorities in assisting information campaigns/advice to members etc.? God knows how many millions of people in the country are involved in GAA Whatsapp groups across the country the GAA could definitely have done more!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: ck on March 12, 2020, 05:21:12 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: thewobbler on March 12, 2020, 05:31:00 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2020, 06:01:28 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 12, 2020, 06:06:17 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
I doubt it will last 6 months
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Solo_run on March 12, 2020, 06:09:43 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?

You take personal responsibility when it comes to your own personal hygeine. It's other people that don't.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 12, 2020, 06:12:23 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
I doubt it will last 6 months

You think shorter or longer?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Solo_run on March 12, 2020, 06:15:50 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
I doubt it will last 6 months

You think shorter or longer?

Longer with the approach UK and US are taking.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 12, 2020, 06:54:34 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
I doubt it will last 6 months

You think shorter or longer?
Shorter.
Lots of people saying viruses are less effective in summer
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 12, 2020, 07:00:41 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.
Can someone post that article up as its behind a pay wall for me.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Main Street on March 12, 2020, 07:29:10 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.
Can someone post that article up as its behind a pay wall for me.
I am not an IT subscriber but I could access it through a special portal


Abandoned GAA leagues and restructured championships on the cards

There may be no option but to defer the introduction of the Taliteann Cup until 2021


A major revamp of the GAA season will have to be considered with abandoned leagues and restructured championships on the cards.

These possibilities arise as the association reviews its position after Thursday’s announcement that the country would be subject to nationwide restrictions until the end of March.

The outlining of emergency measures came as an inevitable conclusion to a week of intensifying concerns about the spread of coronoavirus.

Sports organisations have all along been following the policy of being guided by public health authorities and up and down the country, organising committees for the various national league fixtures were planning contingencies for matches going ahead or being played behind closed doors.

The latter solution wasn’t considered desirable for a couple of reasons: control of those seeking to attend, concern for players, who would be in close proximity for well over an hour of physical contact and the necessity to act and be seen to act decisively.

The decision, announced later in the day, that all Gaelic games activities would be halted provides a clean break in schedules and will allow time for the relevant GAA officials to plan what to do with the remainder of the season.

“In all of this, public health is the first priority,” said one source, “and then second, business and people’s livelihoods. Sport comes third. We’ll be sitting down between now and 29th March to work out where we go from here.”

That will be no small detail. Despite the ravages of the weather, the leagues were within a couple of weeks of being concluded. Allowing for what even at this stage looks the benign interpretation that things will be significantly improved by the end of March, there is simply no room to find those weeks for the league.

It might be possible to defer the various divisional finals until later in the year but Division 1 of the hurling league is only at the quarter-final stage. Mobilising April, the month advanced as an inter-county-free zone in the past two years, does not appear to be an option.

First, it was created to benefit clubs and their players and there is no appetite to infringe on that except for maybe a couple of fixtures that might give clarity to next year’s league. Secondly, it would only arise as a possibility if there was a lifting or partial lifting of restrictions by the end of March - a prospect not viewed as a likelihood by any of the stakeholders.

There is, counter-intuitively, less interest in the destination of the prizes at stake in the league than in the orderly resolution of the competition’s composition for 2021 - essentially, relegation and promotion issues.

As for championship, it wouldn’t be hugely affected were the 29th March to prove the end of restrictions but in the more likely event that the public health situation still isn’t resolved more radical measures will be required.

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

One of the more contentious aspects of the championship has been the establishment of the Tailteann Cup, a graded football championship for counties in Divisions Three and Four of next year’s league.

Immediately there is the problem that as the league has not been concluded, the composition of those divisions is as yet unknown. Again, this will come down to how soon the season can re-start. Were it possible in the event of even slightly eased restrictions, a couple of relevant fixtures could be staged behind closed doors to give definition to the situation.

Realistically, though there may be no option but to abandon this year’s leagues and defer the introduction of the Taliteann Cup until 2021.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: five points on March 12, 2020, 08:30:32 PM
Nobody died because the GAA waited til the afternoon today rather than rushing an announcement ahead of the government.

Didn’t you hear? Two juggernauts are currently on a road not big enough for both, and look like meeting each other head at some indiscernible time in the future. Had the GAA been bothered to put a few “slow down” signs on the road last week, this surely would have helped.

An odd analogy, and a weak one. There weren't even that many games played in the past week.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: RadioGAAGAA on March 12, 2020, 08:36:14 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/abandoned-gaa-leagues-and-restructured-championships-on-the-cards-1.4201358

There is a desire to finish the All-Irelands by the scheduled dates, as not to do so would compromise club fixtures up and down the country. If maintaining that schedule requires the re-introduction of a knock-out format, last exclusively seen 24 years ago, that may well be considered.

There won't be a championship in 2020. This thing will last (at least) 6 months.

[at least, you better f**king pray it does, 'cos otherwise the health services will utterly collapse]
I doubt it will last 6 months

You think shorter or longer?
Shorter.
Lots of people saying viruses are less effective in summer

Well lots of people probably need to have a look at the weather in Tehran and then draw their conclusions.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: rodney trotter on March 12, 2020, 09:06:26 PM
A knockout Championship for the year would be interesting, if it came to that
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 13, 2020, 04:05:34 AM
If it goes to knockout make it open draw 32 teams forget provincials
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 13, 2020, 04:48:48 AM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

But things changed this morning... why were Dublin Antrim and Meath able to make the call and the GAA weren’t?

Also their silence on the whole issue for the past few weeks isn’t on as the largest community organisation in the country it had a duty to communicate much more with its members and it didn’t!!

Why were Dublin, Antrim and Meath able to make the call?

1. Because the government did it for them.
2. Most likely dictated by the chair/Secretary CEO, and agreed (ironically) on WhatsApp this morning. It’s a no brainer once schools are closed.
3. The GAA has a wider remit than any county board, including cross-jurisdiction.


——

Why the silence the past fortnight?

You seem to be confusing the GAA with government. When the latter is being covert, sensitive, wary, unsure, it’s not the role of a sporting association to ride in with guns firing.

The Government at least released guidelines the GAA didn't even have so much as a video on how to wash your hands properly . . . they have a far greater reach than the news or traditional media would. They have a health and wellbeing unit in Croke Park surely this falls into their remit!

I also don't buy the County boards shutting down before the GAA presumably they had to do this in conjunction with the GAA in which case should the organisation as a whole not have taken the lead??

Why were basketball Ireland able to call a full shutdown last night while they GAA had to wait until after it's individual units had gone ahead with it?

At the end of the day the right decision was made but the GAA should learn lessons for the next time we have a situation like this and going forward as there will be more hard choices to make before this situation abates.

They're called the leadership for a reason... they need to lead!!

And when they do lead they're called dictators. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 13, 2020, 09:55:58 AM
If it goes to knockout make it open draw 32 teams forget provincials
No thanks.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 13, 2020, 11:09:29 AM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?

Can't we have both???
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: ck on March 13, 2020, 11:57:23 AM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?

Can't we have both???

Of course we should have both!

Everyone needs to make the right decision for themselves first and foremost. As a coach of 2 teams in my club I have a responsibility to my players to provide direction and leadership in their best interest. I asked the club for a directive on it (as we have a match on Saturday which had not been cancelled) who in turn asked the county board. The county board said they were awaiting advice and direction from Croke Park. It came eventually, thankfully, but it was slow and was behind other sports. Had it not come we had made a club decision that we were not going to field.

Thewobblers assertion that the GAA didnt need to to anything in this instance is just nonsense.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Maroon Manc on March 13, 2020, 12:06:44 PM
A knockout Championship for the year would be interesting, if it came to that

Would be although unlike the soccer we've time on our side.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 13, 2020, 12:28:00 PM
Club county championships can be played off in 3 or  4 weeks like in tyrone 16 teams play every weekend no replays also can do it quicker if bring in mid week games  dublin can go to a 16 team knockout instead of groups
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Main Street on March 13, 2020, 12:37:31 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?

Can't we have both???

Of course we should have both!

Everyone needs to make the right decision for themselves first and foremost. As a coach of 2 teams in my club I have a responsibility to my players to provide direction and leadership in their best interest. I asked the club for a directive on it (as we have a match on Saturday which had not been cancelled) who in turn asked the county board. The county board said they were awaiting advice and direction from Croke Park. It came eventually, thankfully, but it was slow and was behind other sports. Had it not come we had made a club decision that we were not going to field.

Thewobblers assertion that the GAA didnt need to to anything in this instance is just nonsense.
Where did Wobbler assert that the GAA didn't need to do anything in this instance?
Now we have chinese whispers.

Personal responsibility overides, how one interacts in their home and outside with elderly people, smokers etc, and vice versa.



Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 13, 2020, 04:39:03 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?



https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/watch-gaa-president-john-horan-encourages-gaa-clubs-to-look-after-the-most-vulne/ (https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/watch-gaa-president-john-horan-encourages-gaa-clubs-to-look-after-the-most-vulne/)

Transcript below if you can't play the video. You've another person to object to as strongly as possible here.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: blanketattack on March 14, 2020, 09:48:03 AM
The Kerry County Board have confirmed today that David Clifford has tested positive


...for being the best footballer in Ireland
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: larryin89 on March 14, 2020, 04:35:46 PM
Is it the fancy dans who were due to play New York this may ?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 14, 2020, 07:34:33 PM
Why on earth would the GAA have ordered a full shutdown when all its members are still mingling daily at school and work?

The GAA can now follow up appropriately and will do today.

Some of you are demanding. Some of you are just twisty and nasty. Most of you are just unrealistic.

It's called leadership! The GAA has a responsibility to look after the best interest of its members and players. Regardless of what other activities its members get up to there is an onus on the GAA hierarchy to give a clear direction for matches and club activity. I'm sure they will get their act together soon following the Gov announcement but I'd have expected it to be sooner.

Again, unrealistic, demanding, maybe even twisty.


As of this morning, every u7, u9 and u11 rural Gael in Ireland was sitting in a confined space with all other children their age.

Even the under 7s would have been able to point out the flaw in telling them the GAA club had stopped their training.

Twisty?! Get over yourself!

I have an 85 year old mother, I'm at my club 3 evenings per week training teams. The last thing I want to do is carry something back to my Mum.
As a governing body the GAA has a responsibility and therefore needed to give some direction, not to sit on their hands.


I too have pensioner parents.

And I object as is strongly as possible to you claiming that the “GAA has a responsibility” in the subsequent sentence.

Just what does it take for people like you start assuming personal responsibility?



https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/watch-gaa-president-john-horan-encourages-gaa-clubs-to-look-after-the-most-vulne/ (https://www.gaa.ie/news-archive/news/watch-gaa-president-john-horan-encourages-gaa-clubs-to-look-after-the-most-vulne/)

Transcript below if you can't play the video. You've another person to object to as strongly as possible here.

Exactly the kind of thing the GAA should be advocating... this is leadership!!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Lar Naparka on March 14, 2020, 10:18:23 PM
Is it the fancy dans who were due to play New York this may ?
Yeah and I think Sligo are due to play London.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 14, 2020, 11:58:18 PM
Ros are due to play London.
Probably wont be happening......
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 15, 2020, 01:22:58 PM
gaa got lucky moving the club championships to january
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 15, 2020, 01:56:31 PM
Is it the fancy dans who were due to play New York this may ?
Yeah and I think Sligo are due to play London.


We've Galway or NY. Though I can't see it happening now.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: mouview on March 15, 2020, 07:37:47 PM
The Kerry County Board have confirmed today that David Clifford has tested positive


...for being the best footballer in Ireland

Galway county board mounting an appeal.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: An Fhairche Abu on March 15, 2020, 10:37:54 PM
For the Galway-NY and Roscommon-London matches, I can't see them going ahead at any point this year now, at this stage if we see any Championship this year at all we'll be doing well.

Shane Walsh in with a good shout for the best player in 2020 so far but it's only league performances and absolutely irrelevant in the face of the pandemic affecting Ireland and the rest of the world to be honest.

Sport is so small in the scheme of things but you would miss it all the same, you'd always read about the championships long ago completed in the following year for whatever reason, I think that's where we are at unless there is an unforseen and dramatic improvement in the overall global situation.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Itchy on March 15, 2020, 10:54:19 PM
Whatever about the response of HQ, the response of local grassroots gaa has been tremendous. Cancelled training before the order, meetings cancelled, lottos cancelled. Offers to the communities vulnerable to help get shopping etc. The grassroots are the glue that holds society together.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: marty34 on March 15, 2020, 11:35:43 PM
Whatever about the response of HQ, the response of local grassroots gaa has been tremendous. Cancelled training before the order, meetings cancelled, lottos cancelled. Offers to the communities vulnerable to help get shopping etc. The grassroots are the glue that holds society together.

Very true Itchy. Compared to the muppets in the Dublin pubs.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Last Caress on March 15, 2020, 11:51:13 PM
Whatever about the response of HQ, the response of local grassroots gaa has been tremendous. Cancelled training before the order, meetings cancelled, lottos cancelled. Offers to the communities vulnerable to help get shopping etc. The grassroots are the glue that holds society together.
Have to agree with you itchy. Our club has been leading the way with help and support for the elderly and vulnerable people in our community at this time.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 16, 2020, 10:59:38 AM
For the Galway-NY and Roscommon-London matches, I can't see them going ahead at any point this year now, at this stage if we see any Championship this year at all we'll be doing well.

Shane Walsh in with a good shout for the best player in 2020 so far but it's only league performances and absolutely irrelevant in the face of the pandemic affecting Ireland and the rest of the world to be honest.

Sport is so small in the scheme of things but you would miss it all the same, you'd always read about the championships long ago completed in the following year for whatever reason, I think that's where we are at unless there is an unforseen and dramatic improvement in the overall global situation.
https://www.the42.ie/galway-uncertain-new-york-championship-5047442-Mar2020/?

I'd think most would agree the chances of the London, New York championship games going ahead in May is between slim and none. I'd hope supporters that was to travel over will get some refunds on flights and accommodation.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: MayoBuck on March 16, 2020, 05:41:30 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/croke-park-to-be-used-as-drive-thru-covid-19-testing-facility-39048327.html

Another indication that there will be no games on for the foreseeable future
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 16, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/croke-park-to-be-used-as-drive-thru-covid-19-testing-facility-39048327.html

Another indication that there will be no games on for the foreseeable future

It is a good idea though. Croke park is a big site, not going to be used in present crisis, where everyone knows where it is.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Armagh18 on March 16, 2020, 11:24:11 PM
Whatever about the response of HQ, the response of local grassroots gaa has been tremendous. Cancelled training before the order, meetings cancelled, lottos cancelled. Offers to the communities vulnerable to help get shopping etc. The grassroots are the glue that holds society together.
Absolutely great to see. Makes you proud to be part of the GAA. One big family at the end of the day.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: screenexile on March 17, 2020, 12:00:14 AM
Great to see the GAA getting out and leading after being behind for a few weeks.

It’s what the organisation is about and I have no doubt the GAA’s role will have been huge when this is all over in terms of looking after the vulnerable and assisting the authorities with communication and offering club grounds and property to help.

Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 17, 2020, 09:01:25 AM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/croke-park-to-be-used-as-drive-thru-covid-19-testing-facility-39048327.html

Another indication that there will be no games on for the foreseeable future
It is like a state of war .
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Last Caress on March 17, 2020, 08:25:03 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/croke-park-to-be-used-as-drive-thru-covid-19-testing-facility-39048327.html

Another indication that there will be no games on for the foreseeable future
It is like a state of war .
https://twitter.com/JustinMcNu1ty/status/1240008612052963329?s=20
This is unbelievable...
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: J70 on March 18, 2020, 12:13:23 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/croke-park-to-be-used-as-drive-thru-covid-19-testing-facility-39048327.html

Another indication that there will be no games on for the foreseeable future
It is like a state of war .
https://twitter.com/JustinMcNu1ty/status/1240008612052963329?s=20
This is unbelievable...

I did not know Justin was an MLA.

Out of touch!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 18, 2020, 04:16:05 PM
Cork Co Board making Páirc Uí Chaoimh available to the HSE for a test centre.
Several Counties have postponed all proposed April Championship fixtures en bloc.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Blowitupref on March 18, 2020, 04:25:42 PM
New York and Galway, scheduled to take place in Gaelic Park, New York on May 3rd, has been postponed.

The future for this fixture will be considered at a later date and in the context of the anticipated overall re-drawing of the national fixtures calendar for 2020 as necessitated by the ongoing disruption to the GAA games programme.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 18, 2020, 05:05:27 PM
I expect that won't be played till May 2021.
Any Connacht Championship that might get played this year will not have NY in it.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 18, 2020, 05:09:36 PM
North American Continental Youth Championship, to be held in San Francisco this year, is canceled.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 18, 2020, 05:21:41 PM
I wonder if more GAA facilities around the country could be pressed into service, whether for testing or treatment. So many community halls in so many locations, it's a massive network when you think about it. Combined with the likes of the civil defense and armed forces, it might be possible to get enough manpower together to fight this thing.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Angelo on March 18, 2020, 10:32:50 PM
I expect that won't be played till May 2021.
Any Connacht Championship that might get played this year will not have NY in it.

As in the New York Galway game as the opener of the 2021 Championship or as in there will be no Championship this year?

I'm beginning to think with the latter, the window is shortening and I think this virus will only begin to peak in Ireland in April/May time and every precaution has to be taken.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eamonnca1 on March 18, 2020, 10:42:25 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Taylor on March 19, 2020, 08:44:50 AM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 19, 2020, 09:41:57 AM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: WT4E on March 19, 2020, 10:52:59 AM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 19, 2020, 01:19:37 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?

Why not? If people do not mingle then the virus stops. 
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: balladmaker on March 19, 2020, 01:37:56 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?

Why not? If people do not mingle then the virus stops.

It is as simple as that, nowhere to spread to then it can't spread.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 19, 2020, 03:16:35 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?

Yes, afterall China has been basically in lockdown since the end of January.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: johnnycool on March 19, 2020, 03:30:22 PM
Using that John Hopkins university data, off the 3,249 deaths in the whole of China 3,130 deaths were in Hubei province.

Some of the other provinces which are far larger than a lot of European countries in terms of population are posting 22 deaths and less.

That is some reduction in mortality from when it started in Hubei to when it spread to the other provinces, so they must have been doing something right when they decided that they actually had a problem.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: imtommygunn on March 19, 2020, 03:53:37 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?

Yes, afterall China has been basically in lockdown since the end of January.

Why would they continually report all these cases and deaths and then suddenly say 0 as well.

Even say they are say 20 or 30 cases out in accuracy which granted they may be it is still hugely improved so like others say they really must be doing something right.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Cunny Funt on March 19, 2020, 04:17:52 PM
I'd say all sport is done for the year. They're still claiming the Olympics are going ahead but I'll be very surprised if they happen.

Australian GP is off, and I'll be surprised if there's any F1 racing this season at all.

Not sure about the full year but I would expect nothing to be on before August.

A lot will depend on what happens in China over the next few weeks

China has reported no new local infections for the first time today, hopefully that continues.

Mid July at the earliest for the start of the championship I'd reckon with no games out in London, New York this summer as the UK, USA haven't taken this virus as serious as the ROI have.  With no back door and 2nd tier in the championship it can be completed in a 8 week window.

Do you believe that though?

Yes, afterall China has been basically in lockdown since the end of January.

Why would they continually report all these cases and deaths and then suddenly say 0 as well.

Even say they are say 20 or 30 cases out in accuracy which granted they may be it is still hugely improved so like others say they really must be doing something right.

Their last number of reported cases came from overseas travel which is stopped now and that might explain the zero figure. They are doing something right and others ourselves included no matter how stubborn must follow their lead.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: marty34 on March 19, 2020, 05:55:33 PM
I see O'Neills in Strabane are temporarily 750 workers.
Sad news everywhere.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 19, 2020, 06:41:04 PM
A lot of cases in ROI today, if you believe  the data 3 times that of whole UK.

Using that John Hopkins university data, off the 3,249 deaths in the whole of China 3,130 deaths were in Hubei province.

Some of the other provinces which are far larger than a lot of European countries in terms of population are posting 22 deaths and less.

That is some reduction in mortality from when it started in Hubei to when it spread to the other provinces, so they must have been doing something right when they decided that they actually had a problem.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)

If you can treat people then the death rate will be modest and  people in severe  difficulty anyhow. If the health service gets overrun then 5 times as many die, and these might have lived for decades in some cases. That what flattening the curve is all about.

I see Nowlan park now to be a drive in centre. 
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2020, 09:57:55 AM
Using that John Hopkins university data, off the 3,249 deaths in the whole of China 3,130 deaths were in Hubei province.

Some of the other provinces which are far larger than a lot of European countries in terms of population are posting 22 deaths and less.

That is some reduction in mortality from when it started in Hubei to when it spread to the other provinces, so they must have been doing something right when they decided that they actually had a problem.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html)
Are they classifying deaths correctly though?
They had stats like Italy and suddenly everything stopped.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 20, 2020, 10:27:50 AM
Lots of moving parts to this but in answer to some of the comments above the data is there to suggest:

1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.

2. Unfortunately, the west didn't learn the lessons and ignored the problem until it was too late. The west put their economies ahead of people with a tinge of racism and superiority and is now going to pay a hefty price unfortunately

3. Ireland is doing better in my view than most of Europe and the US but we're still not testing nearly enough and we should have had a full lockdown much, much sooner.

4. Spain, Switzerland, UK, France, Germany - stats look really bad when you look at infection rates and testing rates per capita. This is a huge worry for us in Ireland as I think while we're going to be in trouble, these other bigger countries will be much worse.

There are of course many unknowns such as how effective contact tracing and social distancing are from place to place. My read is that in Ireland the authorities are bullish about the success of their contact tracing efforts and hence we haven't gone full lockdown. I really hope they're right and my worry is that while our testing effort thus far has been better than some, it's still not at a level to give you confidence.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 11:18:32 AM
Back to the GAA.

Has any CB's frozen admin fees for clubs?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 20, 2020, 12:12:42 PM
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1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.

Yes, they did. This is largely because they had worked out strategies for SARS and redeployed these.

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2. Unfortunately, the west didn't learn the lessons and ignored the problem until it was too late. The west put their economies ahead of people with a tinge of racism and superiority and is now going to pay a hefty price unfortunately

This is only partly true. The virus spread to different places in Europe, making it hard  to pin down.

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3. Ireland is doing better in my view than most of Europe and the US but we're still not testing nearly enough and we should have had a full lockdown much, much sooner.

Remember too that places like Singapore have never had a  full lockdown, nor have schools closed there, they rely on testing and comprehensive contact tracing to keep a lid on things. As an island with a similar population, we could do likewise, if the DUP weren't scoring political points.





Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: bigarsedkeeper on March 20, 2020, 01:38:11 PM
Back to the GAA.

Has any CB's frozen admin fees for clubs?
We haven't heard anything anyway. They'll probably wait until the next phase of shutdown is announced. Surely that will come in the next few days? Ban at the minute only goes to next Sunday - do you think they'll call it for all of April like the soccer?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 20, 2020, 01:41:15 PM
I'd say they'll close all activity till 1st May at least.
Realistically are we talking 1st July though?

Páirc Uí Chaoimh and Limerick Gaelic Grounds to be used as Test Centres.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Angelo on March 20, 2020, 02:23:52 PM
Lots of moving parts to this but in answer to some of the comments above the data is there to suggest:

1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.

2. Unfortunately, the west didn't learn the lessons and ignored the problem until it was too late. The west put their economies ahead of people with a tinge of racism and superiority and is now going to pay a hefty price unfortunately

3. Ireland is doing better in my view than most of Europe and the US but we're still not testing nearly enough and we should have had a full lockdown much, much sooner.

4. Spain, Switzerland, UK, France, Germany - stats look really bad when you look at infection rates and testing rates per capita. This is a huge worry for us in Ireland as I think while we're going to be in trouble, these other bigger countries will be much worse.

There are of course many unknowns such as how effective contact tracing and social distancing are from place to place. My read is that in Ireland the authorities are bullish about the success of their contact tracing efforts and hence we haven't gone full lockdown. I really hope they're right and my worry is that while our testing effort thus far has been better than some, it's still not at a level to give you confidence.

I'd agree with this but I think Ireland benefited massively from being a small island on the outer West of Europe.

I think the South reacted much more seriously than the Tory/Unionist cabal up North, but travel should have been locked down on this island over a full month ago from infected areas. We were in a fantastic position to minimise the impact here but the horse had bolted long before the gate was shut.

The next few weeks will really tell us all.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: johnnycool on March 20, 2020, 03:04:06 PM
Back to the GAA.

Has any CB's frozen admin fees for clubs?
We haven't heard anything anyway. They'll probably wait until the next phase of shutdown is announced. Surely that will come in the next few days? Ban at the minute only goes to next Sunday - do you think they'll call it for all of April like the soccer?

April is a given, along with May and June at the very least.

We're not into the teeth of this yet, that's still a few weeks away.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Fionntamhnach on March 20, 2020, 05:07:47 PM

1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.

2. Unfortunately, the west didn't learn the lessons and ignored the problem until it was too late. The west put their economies ahead of people with a tinge of racism and superiority and is now going to pay a hefty price unfortunately

China initially made a complete balls up of dealing with the initial outbreak, largely down to the suppression of information between various levels of authority - a not uncommon problem in many authoritarian regimes given the way how bureaucrats & officials in them can be cowered to not speak of any report or suggestion that threatens to contradict the policy line of higher up's. Only once the information of the size of the outbreak could not be kept shielded from Xi Jing Ping did shit started to get sorted with the implementation of a major lockdown that locals were tolerating of knowing they live in a mass surveillance state. However in countries with stronger civil liberties, such restrictions to be imposed on their own residents would largely have been politically impossible to implement until the situation started to hit close to home - and unfortunately for Europe, it's taken Italy to be the Guinea pig to show how deadly it can be.

Experience also counts here. East and SE Asian countries have a good bit of recent experience in trying to deal with possible pandemics over the last few years and so have had action plans in place to deal with future cases. Europe? Less so, largely down to a lack of such outbreaks (your reasoning as to why may vary) and would in turn have less preparations in place. Indeed, the Swiss would be perhaps the most "prepared" country in Europe in having plans in place to deal with a scenario like this and even they are struggling to keep it under control within their borders.

In the current time, Ireland (the Republic of) would appear to be doing reasonably well in keeping a lid on things compared to some other western and central European countries and working towards the "flattening the bell curve". Geography is certainly a help here, but it perhaps also helps that the Taoiseach is a qualified GP whom you'd expect to very quickly pick up the public health consequences of such a pandemic, not to mention that the population has over the last few years not generally succumbed to anti-intellectual populism that has afflicted some other western nations. Indeed for a country which is often regarded as having an anti-authority bent, compliance with government advice and orders has been largely successful (bar a few pubs).
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 20, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/irfu-and-provinces-agree-payment-deferral-model-989206.html


Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Buckass on March 21, 2020, 10:33:14 AM
''perhaps also helps that the Taoiseach is a qualified GP whom you'd expect to very quickly pick up the public health consequences of such a pandemic''


Probably made a balls of that quote thingy but that's cheered me up this morning. Leo is a good speaker, presentable who had the sense to re appoint John Concannon to oversee the spin and get the right lines for him 'Not all superheroes wear capes etc', but please...don't give his GP status some super-insight to a pandemic when he was in Washington pressing the flesh the day after his expert group insisted there was no problem with people going to Cheltenham.
Is Fionntamhnach John Concannon?




Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 21, 2020, 05:28:19 PM
''perhaps also helps that the Taoiseach is a qualified GP whom you'd expect to very quickly pick up the public health consequences of such a pandemic''


Probably made a balls of that quote thingy but that's cheered me up this morning. Leo is a good speaker, presentable who had the sense to re appoint John Concannon to oversee the spin and get the right lines for him 'Not all superheroes wear capes etc', but please...don't give his GP status some super-insight to a pandemic when he was in Washington pressing the flesh the day after his expert group insisted there was no problem with people going to Cheltenham.
Is Fionntamhnach John Concannon?


And then they panicked and he had to announce school closures from Washington.

His partner works in the HSE - did you know that Buckass??  ;D
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Downtothewire on March 21, 2020, 11:15:06 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/irfu-and-provinces-agree-payment-deferral-model-989206.html

Tyrone might have to consider doing the same  ;)
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Clinker on March 22, 2020, 02:08:47 AM
Back to the GAA.

Has any CB's frozen admin fees for clubs?
We haven't heard anything anyway. They'll probably wait until the next phase of shutdown is announced. Surely that will come in the next few days? Ban at the minute only goes to next Sunday - do you think they'll call it for all of April like the soccer?

April is a given, along with May and June at the very least.

We're not into the teeth of this yet, that's still a few weeks away.

Sometime in August but then the 2nd Wave is supposed to start and whatever versions arrive with wintery weather so since there will be no point in starting something that cannot be finished....
Unlikely to be anything in 2020 games wise.
Nobody will be going out to watch games even if they were somehow to be played.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 22, 2020, 06:41:24 PM
How many GAA grounds are being used as testing centres? I see Páirc Uí Caoimh has joined the effort.
None in the 6 counties, of course.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2020, 07:15:11 PM
How many GAA grounds are being used as testing centres? I see Páirc Uí Caoimh has joined the effort.
None in the 6 counties, of course.

Seen Bettystown must be a testing centre at the minute
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 22, 2020, 07:28:07 PM
How many GAA grounds are being used as testing centres? I see Páirc Uí Caoimh has joined the effort.
None in the 6 counties, of course.
Croker, De Páirc,  Páirc na nGael and Nowlan Park that I've seen mentioned.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: clonadmad on March 22, 2020, 07:38:49 PM
How many GAA grounds are being used as testing centres? I see Páirc Uí Caoimh has joined the effort.
None in the 6 counties, of course.
Croker, De Páirc,  Páirc na nGael and Nowlan Park that I've seen mentioned.

Thurles and O’Moore Park on standby if needed
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 23, 2020, 12:06:48 PM
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2020/03/22/exclusive-players-unions-hold-emergency-talks-amid-fears-mental/

Player unions representing the UK's biggest sports will hold emergency talks on Tuesday to discuss the impact the coronavirus pandemic is having on their members amid fears of a mental health crisis among sportsmen and women.

Representatives from the Rugby Players Association, Professional Cricketers Association, Professional Footballers Association and PFA Scotland are planning to meet via conference call with growing concerns over salary cuts, job losses and athlete wellbeing.  Sports are expecting a spike in players seeking mental health support over the coming weeks and months, while the RPA is making arrangements for increased help in the area of financial advice after Premiership players discovered last week that they would be taking reductions in pay until the competition resumes.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 23, 2020, 01:03:08 PM
Must be tough being expected to survive on less than €100k per week.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 23, 2020, 03:21:58 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/se%C3%A1n-moran-could-coronavirus-give-the-gaa-a-chance-to-take-stock-and-reset-1.4205192

Back in 1996, with coffers swelled by the Meath-Mayo All-Ireland football final replay and the rise of Wexford hurling, the combined (index-linked) revenue from gate receipts and broadcast fees was in the region of €13 million or roughly a quarter of what was taken in last year, just over €50 million and that doesn’t include commercial earnings, which are realistically also tied to fixture opportunity.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2020, 03:59:33 PM
Lots of moving parts to this but in answer to some of the comments above the data is there to suggest:

1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.


Did anyone see the videos floating about with body bags lined up on the street in China? It could be edited shite but something not right with China figures IMO.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 23, 2020, 04:40:00 PM
Lots of moving parts to this but in answer to some of the comments above the data is there to suggest:

1. China and neighbouring Asian countries did a brilliant job of locking down this virus.


Did anyone see the videos floating about with body bags lined up on the street in China? It could be edited shite but something not right with China figures IMO.

Do not underestimate how much it could be worth to some countries, for demand to and from China for nearly anything to be reduced greatly long term.

Same reason as you are right to be wary of Chinese figures, the Chinese also need to be seen to be 'back on track'.

There is a lot at stake economy wise for lots of people here when everything 'gets back to normal'. I'd take any kind of videos or pictures or anything like that with a pinch of salt as it would suit a lot of Western Nations for the Chinese economy to never recover over this all.

Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: WT4E on March 23, 2020, 10:43:14 PM
Agreed ..... In summary..... Hard to know what the fcuk to believe these days.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 24, 2020, 07:03:22 AM
I’m highly suspicious of China’s numbers too, with Italy experiencing a mortality rate of around 10% and with no end in sight. However, China is the engine of the world economy and without its strong growth (and demand for raw materials), the global economy would stagnate - I’m not sure which western democracy, with the exception of the clown in the White House and some of his advisors, would actually relish an economically struggling China. It’s a brilliant and growing export market for western goods also.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 24, 2020, 09:57:05 AM
I’m highly suspicious of China’s numbers too, with Italy experiencing a mortality rate of around 10% and with no end in sight. However, China is the engine of the world economy and without its strong growth (and demand for raw materials), the global economy would stagnate - I’m not sure which western democracy, with the exception of the clown in the White House and some of his advisors, would actually relish an economically struggling China. It’s a brilliant and growing export market for western goods also.


You need to understand the measures taken in the respective countries. The numbers make sense in that context. China failed initially to react and then brought in really tough, draconian measures. Sut everything down. The impact could be seen from outer space in terms of vast reduction in emissions. Built new hospitals. Unreal stuff that can't/won't be replicated in western countries. These measures worked and the outbreak is under control there for now. Italy effectively did nothing until it was too late to avoid major death and disruption. Even now, their lockdown isn't as severe as in China. Spain is closely following the same trajectory, as are several European countries, including the UK. I personally don't believe we're in much better position though we did close schools etc much earlier so may get some benefit from that.

I think a huge % of the population in Ireland are in denial of what's about to happen.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: tbrick18 on March 24, 2020, 10:04:36 AM
General question with the use of GAA facilities as testing centres in ROI....how do you go about getting a test as a member of the public?
Do you just show up?
Here in the 6, there's currently no testing centres that I'm aware of and policy seems to be that by April we'll be testing 800 a day. I haven't seen anything to say who will be eligible for tests, what happens to those testing positive and if there's any plan to increase the volume of testing.

I see the Swatragh club in Derry have offered their facilities up as a testing centre or field hospital.
Does Croke Park have a policy on this or is this a club being pro-active?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 24, 2020, 10:07:06 AM
I’m highly suspicious of China’s numbers too, with Italy experiencing a mortality rate of around 10% and with no end in sight. However, China is the engine of the world economy and without its strong growth (and demand for raw materials), the global economy would stagnate - I’m not sure which western democracy, with the exception of the clown in the White House and some of his advisors, would actually relish an economically struggling China. It’s a brilliant and growing export market for western goods also.


You need to understand the measures taken in the respective countries. The numbers make sense in that context. China failed initially to react and then brought in really tough, draconian measures. Sut everything down. The impact could be seen from outer space in terms of vast reduction in emissions. Built new hospitals. Unreal stuff that can't/won't be replicated in western countries. These measures worked and the outbreak is under control there for now. Italy effectively did nothing until it was too late to avoid major death and disruption. Even now, their lockdown isn't as severe as in China. Spain is closely following the same trajectory, as are several European countries, including the UK. I personally don't believe we're in much better position though we did close schools etc much earlier so may get some benefit from that.

I think a huge % of the population in Ireland are in denial of what's about to happen.

I comprehend that, and appreciate measures like building hospitals cannot be replicated in the west, but in Wuhan the first cases (of a random viral pneumonia) were discovered in December yet a lockdown wasn’t imposed on Wuhan until the 23rd January, after millions had left and travelled to other cities around China (and the world). A reduction in NO2 has been seen in northern Italy also. While I fully comprehend that the west won’t be as effective in combating this as China, a 2.5% death rate in Wuhan compared to 10% in Italy (not sure what it is in Spain) just seems fictitious to me.

Ireland is on the same path as Italy in terms of daily increase in cases, if not deaths, from the graphs I’ve seen on the FT. I agree that most people here don’t have a clue what’s coming down the path - they wouldn’t be queuing like morons for fish and chips in Howth if they did.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 24, 2020, 10:33:25 AM
General question with the use of GAA facilities as testing centres in ROI....how do you go about getting a test as a member of the public?
Do you just show up?


No. You have to be sent by your GP who interviews you by phone.

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Here in the 6, there's currently no testing centres that I'm aware of and policy seems to be that by April we'll be testing 800 a day. I haven't seen anything to say who will be eligible for tests, what happens to those testing positive and if there's any plan to increase the volume of testing.

There is no evidence of any concrete plan to test people in the 6 counties, until they are ill enough to go to hospital.

I comprehend that, and appreciate measures like building hospitals cannot be replicated in the west, but in Wuhan the first cases (of a random viral pneumonia) were discovered in December yet a lockdown wasn’t imposed on Wuhan until the 23rd January, after millions had left and travelled to other cities around China (and the world). A reduction in NO2 has been seen in northern Italy also. While I fully comprehend that the west won’t be as effective in combating this as China, a 2.5% death rate in Wuhan compared to 10% in Italy (not sure what it is in Spain) just seems fictitious to me.

there is a 0.5% fatality rate in Ireland, do you also regard this as fictitious?

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Ireland is on the same path as Italy in terms of daily increase in cases, if not deaths, from the graphs I’ve seen on the FT. I agree that most people here don’t have a clue what’s coming down the path - they wouldn’t be queuing like morons for fish and chips in Howth if they did.

Ireland is not on the same path as Italy, it is better compared to Germany.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: OgraAnDun on March 24, 2020, 11:27:39 AM
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1242226333012373505?s=21 - you’re free to look for it yourself, courtesy of the FT. And no, I don’t believe the rate here is fictitious, but we’re an a much earlier stage than China and are a country who isn’t known for massive secrecy and suppression of the truth.

Admittedly not quite Italy, but it’s not far away.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 24, 2020, 11:48:49 AM
I’m highly suspicious of China’s numbers too, with Italy experiencing a mortality rate of around 10% and with no end in sight. However, China is the engine of the world economy and without its strong growth (and demand for raw materials), the global economy would stagnate - I’m not sure which western democracy, with the exception of the clown in the White House and some of his advisors, would actually relish an economically struggling China. It’s a brilliant and growing export market for western goods also.

The Chinese biggest flaw was their biggest saving grace. Nobody took any action because they were afraid of the regime, but when the regime realised there was a big issue. They aggressively took to work, hospitals up in days, people battered on streets if they broke the lock down - you couldn't get away with that kind of thing here.

I'm in the boat that I tend to believe the Chinese numbers on current cases, of course you must be aware that they will present it as a triumph to the world their lock down is intended to close in April, sending doctors and nurses overseas etc but of course the question must be asked, in a country so populous and city wise dense....how did so few get infected/die? I would suspect the true tally is much greater than the world knows and something the Italians would never be able to cover up - How many of these citizens were deemed 'illegal' and not on registers since the 1 child policy etc? There certainly must have been a morphing of numbers somewhere.

The biggest problem is, this is going to happen again. The trading of wild animals I believe in China has now been made illegal - before this is was, as you were. But when things go illegal, there is always a blossoming black market. The Chinese will need to be ruthless in this going forward...in a kind of way, again, you wouldn't get away with here with a few fines here and there for the lads.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 24, 2020, 12:02:34 PM
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1242226333012373505?s=21 - you’re free to look for it yourself, courtesy of the FT. And no, I don’t believe the rate here is fictitious, but we’re an a much earlier stage than China and are a country who isn’t known for massive secrecy and suppression of the truth.

Admittedly not quite Italy, but it’s not far away.

It is always good to see data, but this data is not consistent as testing rates vary in the countries concerned. On that chart Germany is worse than the UK, reflecting testing levels, but the UK has 3 times the deaths of Germany which suggests that things are not as good there.

We'll see later this week as the measures start to take effect. The public health people no doubt have useful data on when people first had symptoms, the areas of the country where there appears to be transmission etc, so that data will provide insight that you or I do not have. 
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: armaghniac on March 24, 2020, 01:06:18 PM
The biggest problem is, this is going to happen again. The trading of wild animals I believe in China has now been made illegal - before this is was, as you were. But when things go illegal, there is always a blossoming black market. The Chinese will need to be ruthless in this going forward...in a kind of way, again, you wouldn't get away with here with a few fines here and there for the lads.

In the past the population tolerated this wild animal thing, I suspect a lot of people will be less tolerant now and this will facilitate strong action by the authorities.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 24, 2020, 01:50:14 PM
I’m highly suspicious of China’s numbers too, with Italy experiencing a mortality rate of around 10% and with no end in sight. However, China is the engine of the world economy and without its strong growth (and demand for raw materials), the global economy would stagnate - I’m not sure which western democracy, with the exception of the clown in the White House and some of his advisors, would actually relish an economically struggling China. It’s a brilliant and growing export market for western goods also.


You need to understand the measures taken in the respective countries. The numbers make sense in that context. China failed initially to react and then brought in really tough, draconian measures. Sut everything down. The impact could be seen from outer space in terms of vast reduction in emissions. Built new hospitals. Unreal stuff that can't/won't be replicated in western countries. These measures worked and the outbreak is under control there for now. Italy effectively did nothing until it was too late to avoid major death and disruption. Even now, their lockdown isn't as severe as in China. Spain is closely following the same trajectory, as are several European countries, including the UK. I personally don't believe we're in much better position though we did close schools etc much earlier so may get some benefit from that.

I think a huge % of the population in Ireland are in denial of what's about to happen.

I comprehend that, and appreciate measures like building hospitals cannot be replicated in the west, but in Wuhan the first cases (of a random viral pneumonia) were discovered in December yet a lockdown wasn’t imposed on Wuhan until the 23rd January, after millions had left and travelled to other cities around China (and the world). A reduction in NO2 has been seen in northern Italy also. While I fully comprehend that the west won’t be as effective in combating this as China, a 2.5% death rate in Wuhan compared to 10% in Italy (not sure what it is in Spain) just seems fictitious to me.

Ireland is on the same path as Italy in terms of daily increase in cases, if not deaths, from the graphs I’ve seen on the FT. I agree that most people here don’t have a clue what’s coming down the path - they wouldn’t be queuing like morons for fish and chips in Howth if they did.


If everyone can get proper medical treatment to mortality rate would be below 1%. The problem is when ICU's are full and people with serious cases cannot get treated - they all die. So basically China had less time in the situation where their health system couldn't cope. Italy is living through that at the moment and has a way to go before it returns to a situation where all people can be treated. The Italian number will lower over time due to a few other reasons. The number of recorded cases is likely understated due to people not realising they have the virus though I'm not sure it would materially impact the respective numbers.

I understand historically that data coming out of China has to be treated with a health warning but it doesn't look that far fetched to me.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 24, 2020, 02:00:43 PM
The biggest problem is, this is going to happen again. The trading of wild animals I believe in China has now been made illegal - before this is was, as you were. But when things go illegal, there is always a blossoming black market. The Chinese will need to be ruthless in this going forward...in a kind of way, again, you wouldn't get away with here with a few fines here and there for the lads.

In the past the population tolerated this wild animal thing, I suspect a lot of people will be less tolerant now and this will facilitate strong action by the authorities.

Yes I would agree with you on this - now if the Chinese general (peasant) population knows that it's not safe or not, that could be an issue. You would hope that the Chinese will do their part on a large scale with education but who knows what the people are being told there. Unfortunately I've never been to China so all I can do is speculate / throw out open thought.

Not really sure if Bat / Pangolin or whatever it was we are blaming is a middle class food or what, it's my assumption that it is because the Pangolin was the most trafficked animal in the world it had a certain value for the middle classes.

You would hope their people certainly will remember this long into the memory, however SARS / MERS wasn't all that long ago. I wonder if we in the West will fall back into old habit in the months / years to come.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: magpie seanie on March 24, 2020, 03:06:45 PM
The biggest problem is, this is going to happen again. The trading of wild animals I believe in China has now been made illegal - before this is was, as you were. But when things go illegal, there is always a blossoming black market. The Chinese will need to be ruthless in this going forward...in a kind of way, again, you wouldn't get away with here with a few fines here and there for the lads.

In the past the population tolerated this wild animal thing, I suspect a lot of people will be less tolerant now and this will facilitate strong action by the authorities.

Yes I would agree with you on this - now if the Chinese general (peasant) population knows that it's not safe or not, that could be an issue. You would hope that the Chinese will do their part on a large scale with education but who knows what the people are being told there. Unfortunately I've never been to China so all I can do is speculate / throw out open thought.

Not really sure if Bat / Pangolin or whatever it was we are blaming is a middle class food or what, it's my assumption that it is because the Pangolin was the most trafficked animal in the world it had a certain value for the middle classes.

You would hope their people certainly will remember this long into the memory, however SARS / MERS wasn't all that long ago. I wonder if we in the West will fall back into old habit in the months / years to come.


My understanding is the rich and powerful are the demand market for these wild animals, believing myths about the benefits of eating them. Transmission in this case was Bat to Pangolin to Human. Wet markets should never reopen.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 24, 2020, 03:24:03 PM
The biggest problem is, this is going to happen again. The trading of wild animals I believe in China has now been made illegal - before this is was, as you were. But when things go illegal, there is always a blossoming black market. The Chinese will need to be ruthless in this going forward...in a kind of way, again, you wouldn't get away with here with a few fines here and there for the lads.

In the past the population tolerated this wild animal thing, I suspect a lot of people will be less tolerant now and this will facilitate strong action by the authorities.

Yes I would agree with you on this - now if the Chinese general (peasant) population knows that it's not safe or not, that could be an issue. You would hope that the Chinese will do their part on a large scale with education but who knows what the people are being told there. Unfortunately I've never been to China so all I can do is speculate / throw out open thought.

Not really sure if Bat / Pangolin or whatever it was we are blaming is a middle class food or what, it's my assumption that it is because the Pangolin was the most trafficked animal in the world it had a certain value for the middle classes.

You would hope their people certainly will remember this long into the memory, however SARS / MERS wasn't all that long ago. I wonder if we in the West will fall back into old habit in the months / years to come.


My understanding is the rich and powerful are the demand market for these wild animals, believing myths about the benefits of eating them. Transmission in this case was Bat to Pangolin to Human. Wet markets should never reopen.

Completely agree with you, but look at the size of China. How do you stop that? The black market must be insane there despite the obvious detention never seeing light of day again threat.

Not too educated on the Wet Markets - But my assumption would be these are city based only, but the actual storage / trafficking of the animals could be anywhere. Seen a documentary there on youtube on the markets once, animals stacked on animals, all sorts flooding down through the cages to whatever poor creature is at the bottom gets the lot. This was always going to happen, just nobody cared until now.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 24, 2020, 06:55:18 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/gaa-to-reveal-league-fate-amid-expected-cancellation-989887.html
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2020, 11:28:45 AM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/olympic-postponement-triggers-sporting-backlog-like-no-other-1.4211311
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 25, 2020, 12:57:58 PM
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/storey-says-knockout-all-ireland-might-be-only-viable-plan-for-gaa-1.4210220

“Teams might have to play twice a week, depending on what schedule is there,” he said. “That will suit the stronger counties but it might be either that or nothing.

“The GAA has always been a bit too tied to Sunday games anyhow, in my opinion. What’s wrong with Wexford and Kilkenny meeting on a Wednesday evening? Or a Monday, Tuesday, Thursday or Friday evening? It’s only in people’s heads through tradition that it has be on the weekends.

“People will argue that players work but sure club leagues and county challenge games are played on midweek evenings all the time. I think players are professional enough that they could hack it, particularly in the circumstances we’re in. Let’s be honest, if it’s Plan A, B or C, everyone will be only too delighted to accept whatever is going if it means games can be played.”
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 25, 2020, 01:10:40 PM
i am big fan of friday night games
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 25, 2020, 01:34:20 PM
they could do a 16 team all ireland with a round 2a and 2b so every team gets two games at least and do the same with the  Tailteann Cup but id prefer a 32 open draw knockout gives smaller counties hope or as someone else said they could seed division 1 and 2 teams but they play a division 3 or 4 teams away in 1st round.The provincial councils will complain tho so there no way i see their being a open national tournament.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Blowitupref on March 26, 2020, 01:27:11 PM
All Ireland championship opener London v Roscommon that was set for May 2nd is now postponed. According to HQ A mid June championship start is talked about but too soon to speculate yet.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: An Watcher on March 26, 2020, 01:42:54 PM
I think this is a great opportunity to have an open draw all Ireland. No provincial championship, no seedings, no home or away, nothing.
First round could be tyrone v dublin and London v Waterford.  Great craic altogether
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: bannside on March 26, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
Exactly An Watcher what better year could there be to trial something like that. Plus play to the death on the night,  extra time, if still a draw first team to score!

You know what the biggest obstacle will be.....the provincial boards who would hate to lose their "presigious" competition s and the revenue that generates. Surely away could be found to compensate the provincial boards, some form of revenue share.

Need to get the county stuff over asap so that club scene can start.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 26, 2020, 02:31:33 PM
I think this is a great opportunity to have an open draw all Ireland. No provincial championship, no seedings, no home or away, nothing.
First round could be tyrone v dublin and London v Waterford.  Great craic altogether
There would be no finding your best team in the qualifiers . Best team out every day. It would be more interesting and then if the Dubs got dumped out in a shock second round match...
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: themac_23 on March 26, 2020, 02:58:33 PM
The more I think about it the better it sounds, just go for it straight knockout, as someone said every game finished on the day, even if we have to limit crowds to say 500 for early games make all games live on tv and free to air, every sat and Sunday games on back to back hurling/football be a great summers craic to lighten the mood
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 26, 2020, 03:30:40 PM
God Bless ye're innocence.
Anyway London v Roscommon is off - either cancelled or postponed.
I suspect it will be the former with that and the NY/Galway games to take place in 2021.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 26, 2020, 10:18:21 PM
dont see it happening they wont want a kerry v dublin scenario in 1st or 2nd round they willl go provincial knockout system i think thats the best way of getting dublin into the semis without a massive upset in lesinster and kerry should come through munster and say tyrone wins ulster and mayo wins connaght thats tyrone mayo dublin kerry semi finals.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 26, 2020, 10:21:24 PM
Also they be afraid of a open knockout being a success
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: marty34 on March 26, 2020, 10:27:20 PM
Also they be afraid of a open knockout being a success

If it happens, surely they'll be sell out games - even in the first round, due to lack of action.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: An Watcher on March 26, 2020, 10:29:48 PM
Imagine the interest from the lesser teams thinking if the draw is kind they could have a long summer for once
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 26, 2020, 11:32:37 PM
Also they be afraid of a open knockout being a success

HQ will abandon the championship rather than do an open draw. They can’t be straying from their tier 2 agenda

Imagine the interest from the lesser teams thinking if the draw is kind they could have a long summer for once

Yes. If you had that scenario, there’d definitely be more support to scrap this tier 2 bollix.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2020, 12:15:44 AM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Ball Hopper on March 27, 2020, 12:50:19 AM
How are  the sh1te teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Put Rd 6 of the league on AI semi-final Saturday.  28 teams can play.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 27, 2020, 09:12:47 AM
Also they be afraid of a open knockout being a success

HQ will abandon the championship rather than do an open draw. They can’t be straying from their tier 2 agenda

Imagine the interest from the lesser teams thinking if the draw is kind they could have a long summer for once

HQ love money. They would never drop the championship unless it was impossible to run it.
They also love competing against soccer and rugby. 

They could always say the open draw was due to the pandemic.
 
Yes. If you had that scenario, there’d definitely be more support to scrap this tier 2 bollix.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 27, 2020, 09:33:26 AM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: bannside on March 27, 2020, 10:33:48 AM
If this years championship goes ahead at all the only chance of that happening is a format that represents a total blitz.

Let's be optimistic and say that August is a month where county training can resume.

Sat 29th August (8 x first round matches)
Sunday 30th August (8 x first round matches)
After this weekend 16 teams remain, the rest can go back and begin club activity.

Sat 12th Sept (4 x second round games)
Sun 13th Sept (4 x second round games)
Only 8 teams left.

Sat 26th Sept (2 x by semi finals)
Sun 27th Sept (2 x by semi finals)

Sun 11th Oct (final)

A real blitz with in between weekends for hurling.




Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2020, 11:08:41 AM
Assuming Inter County gets up and running at all in 2020 the realistic way of doing it would be the 7 Division 1 teams (already relegated Meath excluded) play for Sam.
The rest of us finish our NFL games.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: An Watcher on March 27, 2020, 11:43:04 AM
On a side note, I wonder how many all Irelands kerry would have now if it had of been an open draw, likewise the dubs. Something tells me there'd be a few more ulster winners.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2020, 11:53:27 AM
How so?
If they weren't good enough to win it under the then system how would they suddenly improve if the system was different?
You might check Ulster teams  Semi Final results over the years - some awful batins (no more than some Connacht ones too).
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Taylor on March 27, 2020, 12:04:40 PM
How so?
If they weren't good enough to win it under the then system how would they suddenly improve if the system was different?
You might check Ulster teams  Semi Final results over the years - some awful batins (no more than some Connacht ones too).

I remember for a long time the only chance Ulster teams had of making the final was when we were to face Connacht opposition in the semi
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: WT4E on March 27, 2020, 12:10:28 PM
There wont be any football this year
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: befair on March 27, 2020, 01:32:03 PM
V unlikely there will be any GAA games this year. Might be a good time for reflection that GAA sports are a hobby, that shouldn't require a spartan existence, with training regimes, even at club level, that make it v difficult for anyone married with children. But once one team does it, everyone has to do it; it's running to stand still, and takes much of the enjoyment away from it.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 27, 2020, 02:04:16 PM
youd have to say the likes of dublin tyrone kerry mayo  would not want an open draw either they would not want it to be a success they want as many games as possible
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 27, 2020, 02:06:17 PM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: GetOverTheBar on March 27, 2020, 02:08:46 PM
V unlikely there will be any GAA games this year. Might be a good time for reflection that GAA sports are a hobby, that shouldn't require a spartan existence, with training regimes, even at club level, that make it v difficult for anyone married with children. But once one team does it, everyone has to do it; it's running to stand still, and takes much of the enjoyment away from it.

You can choose to follow/participate/let go a hobby at any time you wish, same with the GAA. Nobody is forced to play.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 27, 2020, 02:11:53 PM
Could they do a world cup style tournament 32 team knockout with mid week games
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 27, 2020, 02:12:12 PM
2 games per day
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 27, 2020, 02:16:03 PM
would the gaa ever put the hurling final and football final on same weekend one on saturday and one on sunday i would love that a weekend of finals
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 27, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.

Yeah, but is that such a bad thing?

The current format (even more than the pre-qualifier era) favours the big teams, and it’s boring as hell.

Look at the 1st round games we’ve had in the past: Dublin Meath 1991, Derry Down 1994. Who wouldn’t want that?

2008 FA cup. All the big teams went out. Portsmouth Cardiff West Brom and Barnsley were the last four. If we had the odd season like that, it would do wonders for the championship
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Ed Ricketts on March 27, 2020, 02:48:35 PM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.

Yeah, but is that such a bad thing?

The current format (even more than the pre-qualifier era) favours the big teams, and it’s boring as hell.

Look at the 1st round games we’ve had in the past: Dublin Meath 1991, Derry Down 1994. Who wouldn’t want that?

2008 FA cup. All the big teams went out. Portsmouth Cardiff West Brom and Barnsley were the last four. If we had the odd season like that, it would do wonders for the championship

Yeah, things like that happening have really seen the FA Cup go from strength to strength.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on March 27, 2020, 03:17:42 PM
given that corporate gaa is now all about the cash flow, the idea of intercounty games behind closed doors is not likely.

as I see it, with a recommencement in june or even july and trying to keep intercounty and club life alive in 2020.

1--the leagues will be voided.

2- the football championship will revert to the old style knock out...run the provincial series as drawn, then the winners into all Ireland semis....no backdoor..straight knock out...probably no London or New York in 2020.

3-- the hurling my need a ne knockout draw for munster and leinster....and then either let the 2 winners contest an all Ireland final...or allow all Ireland semis with the munster winner v leinster final loser etc.

4--you can finish the all irealand under 20s football,only 3 games left....the hurling equivalent cancelled.

5- most club games at senior level will not commence until late July or August and this will force most counties to revert to straight knock out championships.

6- forget about the club provincial and all Ireland series for 2020.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: BennyCake on March 27, 2020, 06:24:40 PM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.

Yeah, but is that such a bad thing?

The current format (even more than the pre-qualifier era) favours the big teams, and it’s boring as hell.

Look at the 1st round games we’ve had in the past: Dublin Meath 1991, Derry Down 1994. Who wouldn’t want that?

2008 FA cup. All the big teams went out. Portsmouth Cardiff West Brom and Barnsley were the last four. If we had the odd season like that, it would do wonders for the championship

Yeah, things like that happening have really seen the FA Cup go from strength to strength.

Granted, the FA Cup ain’t the competition it was 20 years ago, but just because Liverpool Arsenal or Man U didn’t win the cup that year don’t make it any less of a competition. Plus, you always had big shocks over the years, and lower league teams reaching the semis and final.

Would Cavan or Sligo winning Sam, mean the AI championship is a poor competition?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: marty34 on March 27, 2020, 06:29:48 PM
How are  the weaker teams going to get a longer Summer ?(assuming any sport takes place during the Summer)
If this wet dream 32 County knock out competition materialises most weak Counties will be gone after 1 game.
At least with the Provincial/ Qualifier system they get 2 games in Summer.

Well, if Leitrim draw Wicklow, and winners played Waterford or Antrim - that’s a lower placed team in the AI QF.

Likewise, Dublin Kerry in round 1. Winners play Mayo or Tyrone. There’s 3 big teams gone before the QF.

was about to say same thing if thats how a weaker team can realistically make it to qf
Big odds on that scenario but not impossible. Would freshen the thing up. I’d be all for the open draw every year, not just this year.

Yeah, but is that such a bad thing?

The current format (even more than the pre-qualifier era) favours the big teams, and it’s boring as hell.

Look at the 1st round games we’ve had in the past: Dublin Meath 1991, Derry Down 1994. Who wouldn’t want that?

2008 FA cup. All the big teams went out. Portsmouth Cardiff West Brom and Barnsley were the last four. If we had the odd season like that, it would do wonders for the championship

Yeah, things like that happening have really seen the FA Cup go from strength to strength.

GAA is tbe complete opposite to other sports in that the team who wins the league is the best team.

The All Ireland, up until recently was the GAA's F.A. Cup - just a knock out.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Rossfan on March 27, 2020, 06:39:46 PM
So Dublin haven't been the best team the last 5 years?
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: marty34 on March 27, 2020, 07:03:26 PM
So Dublin haven't been the best team the last 5 years?

They are and have been and could have won league...if they wanted.

I'm saying other sports' best teams are considering the best team in that sport - the Gaa do it the other way.
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2020, 05:01:54 PM
Loving all the old stuff on Facebook due to the virus stopping us from playing/watching/supporting/officiating

The games of the past, photos that represent your GAA life and the memories people shared, great to reflect on past wins/losses feats and achievements !
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: imtommygunn on March 28, 2020, 07:04:27 PM
Today in particular with the 89 semi. Favourite game ever and probably always will be lol
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 28, 2020, 07:30:57 PM
Today in particular with the 89 semi. Favourite game ever and probably always will be lol

Was brilliant, I got he chills down my back, even now thinking about it
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: seafoid on March 29, 2020, 08:44:40 PM
Today in particular with the 89 semi. Favourite game ever and probably always will be lol

Was brilliant, I got he chills down my back, even now thinking about it

There are a few seconds of the semi final from an Offaly perspective at the start of this

https://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/seinn/?pid=6112993261001&title=Michael Duignan&series=Laochra Gael&genre=Faisneis&pcode=491080
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Milltown Row2 on March 29, 2020, 09:18:37 PM
Today in particular with the 89 semi. Favourite game ever and probably always will be lol

Was brilliant, I got he chills down my back, even now thinking about it

There are a few seconds of the semi final from an Offaly perspective at the start of this

https://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/seinn/?pid=6112993261001&title=Michael Duignan&series=Laochra Gael&genre=Faisneis&pcode=491080

Very good, forgot he didn’t start final!
Title: Re: GAA Response to Coronavirus
Post by: Eire90 on March 31, 2020, 05:09:17 AM
are the gaa strict about having the final in august/September  because i wouldnt mind seeing the all Ireland final played at 5pm on a late october or november  saturday evening i think atmosphere be great.