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Title: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 27, 2020, 11:21:40 PM
Laois Shopping Centre SFC
Round 1

Portlaoise v Ballylinan
Courtwood v O’Dempsey’s
Rosenallis v Ballyfin
Stradbally v Portarlington
Arles-Killeen v Graiguecullen
The Heath v Arles-Kilcruise
Killeshin v Emo
Ballyroan-Abbey v St Joseph’s





Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on June 25, 2020, 03:08:40 PM
Laois GAA finalise fixtures and structure of football and hurling championships

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2020/06/25/confirmed-laois-gaa-finalise-fixtures-and-structure-of-football-and-hurling-championships/
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on July 03, 2020, 11:38:36 AM
With no league form to go on, it'll be interesting to see who adapts best to the shorter season. Challenge games, left, right and centre by all accounts!

I'd expect Portlaoise to be nailed on to win against Ballylinan.
O'Dempseys should be a bit stronger than Courtwood.
I fancy the addition of JOL to edge Rosenallis past Ballyfin but hardly a surprise if Ballyfin go on another run after last year.
Port should beat Strad based on the supply of young lads coming through.
Killeen and Graigue is a hard one to call. Maybe just Graigue?
The Heath have a shocking record in recent years. Been in a lot of relegation battles. But Arles Kilcruise are in decline too. Another tight game I reckon.
Killeshin had a great year last year but Emo are very tough to beat in championship. I'll predict a mild shock win for Emo here.
BA and Josephs is the hardest one to call. I honestly haven't a clue. Someone to win on penalties maybe? :)
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Batman!!! on July 07, 2020, 10:12:46 PM
One man we won’t see in the championship according to this: https://soundcloud.com/moore_tomas/episode-12-brian-bruno-mccormack/s-Rj9uHT4Db6r

Big loss for Portlaoise
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on July 08, 2020, 09:25:52 AM
One man we won’t see in the championship according to this: https://soundcloud.com/moore_tomas/episode-12-brian-bruno-mccormack/s-Rj9uHT4Db6r

Big loss for Portlaoise

He is indeed. I believe there are a lot of players not playing this year. A combination of Covid fears and the short campaign not being attractive in the main.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on July 08, 2020, 10:00:40 AM
Couple of our main players are missing for a combination of reasons, i've heard Rosenallis are in a simular situation which is a pity as i fancied them to go well enough, if it was a normal year you would imagine the 2 Arles's are getting precariously close to the drop
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: portlaoisekid on July 08, 2020, 03:43:49 PM
Lots of word around about players missing but its such a strange time that nothing is unexpected.

At the end of the day lads have to make the correct call for themselves, if they sit it out for a few months they can play next year and stay safe in the mean time.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Countyminor on July 08, 2020, 07:29:11 PM
Here's a list of 5 things that I would like to see happen this championship:

1. The relegation of one of Arles clubs - Just so I can sneer a good old-fashioned I told you so in their direction, to be honest. I have no time for their small-minded, parish loyalties trump what's good for our players and county mentality. Ideally both clubs would suffer the trapdoor fate but, as this unfortunately an impossibility, I'd still smugly settle to see one go (preferably Killeen). A very realistic possibility given both teams have a median age of about 47. This is nothing personal. Both clubs have great people involved and fantastic player commitment but they continue to hurt themselves and Laois so...

2. Stradbally struggle - This one speaks for itself. A club that fluked their way to a poor championship a few years ago and who seem quite content to just trot along as a run of the mill club, resting on former glories as being historically the second football club in the county after Portlaoise, while offering nothing other really than comic relief when they fall to a supposedly hurling club such as Ballyfin. Not entirely specific to Stradbally; could easily slap The Heath etc in there.

3. Rosenallis & Ballyfin go far - Hopefully neither club lose any of their key men. Two well run clubs thriving at both codes (a relative rarity in the country) and especially in Ballyfin's case, playing a nice brand of football. Take notes Stradbally, Mountmellick and co.

4. Portlaoise 2 - The debate of Portlaoise having a second club needs to be reignited as a necessity. The current club are cash-strapped as we all well know and, whether anyone actually wants to admit it, they tend to fish exclusively in certain parts of the town. A second club could be easily based on the Mountrath Road at the current Portlaoise College site, with the school used as a potential feeder, and serve a part of town that is not only neglected by Portlaoise, but by the county as a whole.

5. Credible challenge to Portlaoise - Only Port can realistically do this (although they might be a little preoccupied if you know what I am saying...) Nevertheless, Port have a good team and are well capable of challenging Portlaoise.

Anyways that's some of my thoughts, would be interested in hearing others.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on July 09, 2020, 05:31:23 PM

1. The relegation of one of Arles clubs - Just so I can sneer a good old-fashioned I told you so in their direction, to be honest. I have no time for their small-minded, parish loyalties trump what's good for our players and county mentality. Ideally both clubs would suffer the trapdoor fate but, as this unfortunately an impossibility, I'd still smugly settle to see one go (preferably Killeen).......

This is nothing personal.

It doesn't come across as "nothing personal"!!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on July 24, 2020, 12:32:45 AM
Laois GAA set to stream games live as crowd restrictions force their hand

https://www.laoistoday.ie/2020/07/23/laois-gaa-set-to-stream-games-live-as-crowd-restrictions-force-their-hand/?fbclid=IwAR0auJRsELeuqdHFkt3bPSv2sIaiBc73hTizVn3w92cvHkqCZr-UlySE5AE
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: KOTS3 on August 05, 2020, 01:31:04 PM
Any predictions for the first round lads.

Portlaoise v Ballylinan - Portlaoise
Courtwood v O’Dempsey’s - Odempseys should be winning this but courtwood will be ambitious to maintain senior again this year. Anyone have any update on if Niall Dunne is back playing yet?
Rosenallis v Ballyfin - Going to go with Rosenallis here.
Stradbally v Portarlington Port
Arles-Killeen v Graiguecullen Graigue
The Heath v Arles-Kilcruise - Draw, or kilcruise to Knick it
Killeshin v Emo - Killeshin
Ballyroan-Abbey v St Joseph’s - Joseph’s
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: smcder on August 05, 2020, 04:36:17 PM
What would be the best games to stream?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Zooming around on August 05, 2020, 05:09:35 PM
What would be the best games to stream?

Courtwood v O'Dempseys and Rosenallis v Ballyfin I'd say
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on August 05, 2020, 10:19:15 PM
Anyone have any update on if Niall Dunne is back playing yet?
No, he's not back yet and there are big doubts over the availability of Niall Donoher too due to Covid fears (as in his son).
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 05, 2020, 11:25:32 PM
Predictions:

Portlaoise to hammer Ballylinan.
Courtwood to upset neighbours O'Dempsey's
Rosenallis to make a flying start to Senior life by beating Ballyfin
Stradbally tend to be a bit of a bogey team for Port, they might edge it
Graiguecullen to comfortably beat Killeen
The Heath to edge Kilcruise
Emo to surprise last year's beaten finalists Killeshin
St Joseph's to defeat Ballyroan Abbey and will be closest challengers to Portlaoise.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on August 05, 2020, 11:57:03 PM
This of all years is Port's to win. I think they will not only win the senior cship this year but it could signal the dawn of a new super power in Laois football. Port to win this year and maybe even string a few together. Huge underage talent there.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 06, 2020, 12:28:03 AM
I wouldn’t underestimate how difficult it is to put county championships back to back in either code in any county! Winning a county final does not appear to be beyond Port. Talk of stringing a few together consecutively is nonsense.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 06, 2020, 12:31:32 AM
You can purchase and watch your games here:
https://laoisgaa.ie/live/
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on August 06, 2020, 12:32:13 AM
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but port are missing Paddy OSullivan , Sean Byrne , Alex Mohan, Robbie Pigott, Jake Foster , Ronan Coffey , Stuart Mulpeter all through injury or being out of the country .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on August 06, 2020, 12:37:47 AM
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but port are missing Paddy OSullivan , Sean Byrne , Alex Mohan, Robbie Pigott, Jake Foster , Ronan Coffey , Stuart Mulpeter all through injury or being out of the country .

They may just fall short of 5 in a row in that case. Pity.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on August 06, 2020, 10:03:03 AM
Portlaoise v Ballylinan - Portlaoise comfortably
Courtwood v O’Dempsey’s - O'Dempseys comfortably
Rosenallis v Ballyfin - Think Ballyfin will edge this but John O'Loughlin a huge boost to Rosenallis
Stradbally v Portarlington - Port but not by a huge margin
Arles-Killeen v Graiguecullen - Graigue should beat Killeen without Paul Kingston
The Heath v Arles-Kilcruise - This could be very tight. I think The Heath will scrape through
Killeshin v Emo - Emo will relish this and could pull off a mild surprise.
Ballyroan-Abbey v St Joseph’s - Word is Joseph's are going well and BA aren't but can't see it being anything other than close. Joseph's to win by 3 or 4.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on August 06, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but port are missing Paddy OSullivan , Sean Byrne , Alex Mohan, Robbie Pigott, Jake Foster , Ronan Coffey , Stuart Mulpeter all through injury or being out of the country .

Ive heard 1-2 of those are injured. Would be confident that at least 3-4 of those are available. Port are the team to beat IMO.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Helix. on August 06, 2020, 11:15:45 AM
I’m not sure if any of you are aware but port are missing Paddy OSullivan , Sean Byrne , Alex Mohan, Robbie Pigott, Jake Foster , Ronan Coffey , Stuart Mulpeter all through injury or being out of the country .

Ive heard 1-2 of those are injured. Would be confident that at least 3-4 of those are available. Port are the team to beat IMO.

Stradbally will give them a good game nonetheless. Had a lot of injuries last year and some new additions and Gary comerford back seemingly will be an addition. Wouldn’t surprise me if they manage to get a result. They’ll be at least better than last year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on August 06, 2020, 04:35:09 PM
portlaoise to win well
o dempseys to win well
roseanalis to edge it
stradbally to edge it
graigue to win well
heath to edge it
emo to edge it
st joesphs to win well
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: merman on August 06, 2020, 06:48:31 PM
Said I'd show how little I know about football.... :o

Portlaoise v Ballylinan - Portlaoise
Courtwood v O’Dempsey’s - O' Dempseys
Rosenallis v Ballyfin - Draw (Ballyfin in the replay)
Stradbally v Portarlington - Portarlington
Arles-Killeen v Graiguecullen - Killeen
The Heath v Arles-Kilcruise - Draw (Kilcruise in the replay)
Killeshin v Emo - Killeshin
Ballyroan-Abbey v St Joseph’s - St Joseph’s
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on August 06, 2020, 09:37:46 PM
Slight surprise tonight. Sounded like a poor enough quality game. I thought St Joseph's would have a real go this year with the management set-up they have, but doesn't look like it now. Ballyroan Abbey might make a quarter-final.

Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 07, 2020, 12:22:23 AM

 (https://www.4shared.com/photo/pjkrfOCNiq/Weekend_Fixtures.html)
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on August 07, 2020, 08:46:03 AM
i eat humble pie ,,great win for bally/abbey sounded a poor game it was the opposite they  got lucky i wont lie but another point of playing the game till the very end reminded me of strads final win,well done to them
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Moregroundhurling on August 07, 2020, 09:42:43 AM
Predictions:

Portlaoise to hammer Ballylinan.
Courtwood to upset neighbours O'Dempsey's
Rosenallis to make a flying start to Senior life by beating Ballyfin
Stradbally tend to be a bit of a bogey team for Port, they might edge it
Graiguecullen to comfortably beat Killeen
The Heath to edge Kilcruise
Emo to surprise last year's beaten finalists Killeshin
St Joseph's to defeat Ballyroan Abbey and will be closest challengers to Portlaoise.

I doubt anyone involved in St Joseph's Gaa slept last night. They were full value for their loss. Hang onto the ball and keep it away from one player and they couldn't do it. Nothing creative, nothing new and unfit aswel. Couldn't get back down the field to defend in the last five minutes.

Whenever teams get handed a favourites tag to topple the town they same to capitulate much like the Heath and I Dempseys in previous years. Joe's your up.

Well done Ballyroan, huge losses and setbacks but managed to grind it out with a new team.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: redsetanta on August 07, 2020, 10:54:21 AM
Joe's looked to be well placed to do something this year particularly with the management they had in place. Maybe they will use this kick up the arse to improve and learn some lessons.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 11, 2020, 12:21:09 AM
What happens to anyone who bought tickets to watch any of the games live on Laois TV, is it possible to get a refund?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on August 24, 2020, 01:14:52 PM
O dempseys close game
Roseanalis  close game
Portlaoise  portlaoise after half time to run up a big score
Clonaslee in the intermediate just in a close game
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Heshs Umpire on August 24, 2020, 01:16:38 PM
It's crazy that people now can't even see their own club's championship game via some online service with the exception of O'Moore Park.

I see that in Offaly they are able to broadcast all the games online regardless of what venue the game is in. The wi-fi is hardly that much better across the Barrow, is it?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: BallyroanAbu on August 25, 2020, 06:10:22 PM
My mother got some of Offaly hurling games, stream was a fair bit inferior to Laois one.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Pugwash on August 26, 2020, 10:23:47 PM
Surely after this year the county board will have to review how many teams operate in the Laois Senior Championship?

Having watched a couple of games over the last few evenings, it's fairly evident that the 16 team Championship nowadays is madness. There are 4 or 5 teams at least if not more, who are on life support and shouldn't be anywhere near a senior football.

One way to solve the problem would be to have a regional championship (the main one) where 2 or 3 small parish teams can join together ala Kilcruise and Killeen and then allow both clubs to field teams individually at a lower grade.

The standard of Laois club football is on its knee's bar the few top sides, who even still are operating at a level below of what it was a decade ago.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on August 26, 2020, 11:01:05 PM
I would totally agree with the above statement. I’ve been watching Laois football for years but never seen anything like the display Killeen put in tonight . Surely an amalgamation has to happen now ?  Killeshin who were in a county final last year seem to have really gone backwards almost overnight. I reckon the loser of Killeen and Kilcruise gets relegated. Courtwood have well and truly had there bubble burst after the other night and don’t look anywhere near senior standard . Portlaoise have deteriorated a lot but will still probably just about get over the line again this year .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on August 26, 2020, 11:26:53 PM
Laois SFC Round 2 Winners Group
Portlaoise v Portarlington
Ballyroan-Abbey v Ballyfin
Emo v O’Dempsey’s
Graiguecullen v winners Arles-Kilcruise/The Heath


Laois SFC Round 2 Losers Group
Ballylinan v Rosenallis
Killeshin v Courtwood
Stradbally v St Joseph’s
Arles-Killeen v losers of Arles-Kilcruise/The Heath
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Pugwash on August 27, 2020, 12:29:31 AM
I would totally agree with the above statement. I’ve been watching Laois football for years but never seen anything like the display Killeen put in tonight . Surely an amalgamation has to happen now ?  Killeshin who were in a county final last year seem to have really gone backwards almost overnight. I reckon the loser of Killeen and Kilcruise gets relegated. Courtwood have well and truly had there bubble burst after the other night and don’t look anywhere near senior standard . Portlaoise have deteriorated a lot but will still probably just about get over the line again this year .

The solution would be easy and simple in my opinion at least.

1. The current league calendar is far too congested, clubs playing 10+ league matches is madness and should be shortened to groups of 6/8 and no more.

2. One main senior championship with half being amalgamations and the other half being individual clubs, the winner goes on to represent Laois in Leinster (obviously with amalgamations not being allowed the best placed individual club would get the honour)

Just a couple of random examples off the top of my head whereby you might have the likes of Crettyard/Spink, Killeen/Kilcruise, Ballylinan/Barrowhouse, The Rock/Mountmellick, Courtwood/Emo, Timahoe/Annanough etc joining together to play in the senior championship, but will also be given the chance to play in specific grades below as individual clubs.

If an amalgamated side gets relegated, it's irrelevant, whoever wins intermediate will replace them be it a solo team or another amalgamated side.

3. In turn, a separate mini competition could be ran between the 6 or 9 strongest clubs who are happy to go solo this would be done on a straight knockout basis or in x2 or x3 mini groups containing 3 teams in each.

x2 groups of 3 teams - Top team in each group goes into the final, bottom two teams play a relegation final.

x3 groups of 3 teams - Highest scoring team (with points average of course) goes straight into the final, whilst the top 2 in the other groups play a semi final and in turn do the same but flip it to the lowest scoring/points tally side goes straight into the relegation final whilst the bottom 2 teams in the other group face off in a semi final.

4. Clubs want more competitive games, league games aren't worth a toss and at least if Laois are going well clubs will still have proper competitive games on a weekly or fortnightly basis that will really bring on players, I think anyway!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on August 27, 2020, 12:36:28 AM
Holy jays will yee shut up and just comment on the games it is wat it is the championship is set so shut up and give your comment on the games will yee
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SpeculativeEffort on August 27, 2020, 07:58:29 AM
Holy jays will yee shut up and just comment on the games it is wat it is the championship is set so shut up and give your comment on the games will yee

Townman1980 you're gas. Once again you come onto a discussion board to tell lads to shut up 😂
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on August 27, 2020, 09:13:55 AM
Holy jays will yee shut up and just comment on the games it is wat it is the championship is set so shut up and give your comment on the games will yee
Stop tell people to "piss off" and "shut up". The clue is in the name. It's a "discussion board". Leave the adults to discuss things in peace please.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on August 27, 2020, 10:11:12 AM
Surely after this year the county board will have to review how many teams operate in the Laois Senior Championship?

Having watched a couple of games over the last few evenings, it's fairly evident that the 16 team Championship nowadays is madness. There are 4 or 5 teams at least if not more, who are on life support and shouldn't be anywhere near a senior football.

One way to solve the problem would be to have a regional championship (the main one) where 2 or 3 small parish teams can join together ala Kilcruise and Killeen and then allow both clubs to field teams individually at a lower grade.

The standard of Laois club football is on its knee's bar the few top sides, who even still are operating at a level below of what it was a decade ago.

While i agree that regional teams (3 or 4 of them in the SFC) would be a good idea, I would just caution on judging teams on this year. It has been a very strange year and not having a league to build a team has been disastrous as you can see for the likes of Killeshin, Courtwood, Timahoe and the 2 Arles teams who all took a hiding.

Laois has too many senior football clubs though. 8 or 10 would be plenty with a few regional teams added in.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Pugwash on August 27, 2020, 12:15:11 PM
I would agree fully with you there, re the lack of a league campaign has really hampered sides and friendlies only tell so much.

My naming of said clubs/amalgamations etc was more brainstorming than anything and I for one know that I haven't got all the answers, but it's sad to see how badly the club game has regressed in Laois at Senior Level.

I know the fear for small rural clubs is that they will lose their identity and their club if they join with anyone and there's no other championship for them to compete in, I get that. "But" that doesn't need to happen, just because Kilcruise and Killeen (as an example) may join together to play in the Senior Championship doesn't mean in 4/5 years time both won't be competitive in the Junior A or Intermediate Championships separately.

I also don't buy this whole "hate" for eachother is as deep in parishes around Laois either, sure there is numerous examples of these amalgamations at underage level.

Anyhow that's my two cents on the matter  :-X

On the Championship itself, I firmly believe that one of O'Dempseys, Port or Graiguecullen will finally topple The Town this year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on August 27, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
If Joseph’s and Ballyroan pull themselves together they could be there or thereabouts too. Ballyroan were missing a good few the first day and still won .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Hospital Pass on August 27, 2020, 02:29:12 PM
The First round was really a mixed bag. some great games mixed in with some really poor standard, low intensity games.
I suppose that can be expected given the lack of preparation time teams have had. Id expect it to improve as the year goes on.
I think the Laoisgaa tv service deserves great credit. 5 euro is excellent value for money. if they were able to publish a weekly match programme that we could download it would be very welcomed.
On the structure discussion I agree now that we probably have too many senior teams. 2 or 3 teams are clearly getting cut adrift in my opinion which wasn't the case a few years ago. I like the look of that round 2 draw some nice looking games on paper.
I'll do me best to give a power ranking of where I see teams after round 1.

1. Portlaoise: no explanation necessary. on paper still the team to beat
2. O'Dempseys: move marginally ahead of Port after hammering Courtwood I think. 7-17 is a scoreline that few teams in Laois could post on their best days.
Didnt see the game.
3. Portarlington: Struggled over Stradbally, although conditions seemed appalling. If Colm Murphy is not fit to face Portlaoise I dont think they will have the firepower to down the town the next day. They have best strength in dept in the championship.
4. Graiguecullen: impressive display against what now looks like a weak Killeen team. rallied from a shaky start to completely dominate. Lee Timmons was excellent in attack. With Brian Byrne, Trevor Collins and Dicey back they have serious mobility.
No sign of Aaron Forbes on the match programme. any news on him. Big loss.
5. Emo: Beat Killeshin very comfortably. seem to have added a nice bunch of young lads into the team. could quite easily have had another bag full of scores the last day. be interesting to see if they can repeat that performance.
6. Ballyfin: looked nervy at the finish of their local derby against Rosenallis but they clung on. A nice balance to their team.
7. Ballyroan-Abbey: If you said to me before the game that Ballyroan would be without Tierney, Scott Conroy, McMahon and Marty Scully then I would have given them no chance. to their credit they dug it out and if they can add these 4 back into the group of impressive young lads they could surprise a few again.
8. Stradbally: The first of the first round losers in my opinion, id have them ahead of the heath. ran Portarlington close and have a few bodies back this year.
9. Ballylinan: gave Portlaoise a game, didn't get a chance to see it. I presume it was very defensive judging by the final score. still have the quality to make a run. looking forward to them vs Rosenallis.
10. Rosenallis: A young team that's full of running. a nightmare round 2 draw for them really. Regardless i cant see them getting into trouble this year and with the age profile of the team they will be senior for a good few years to come.
11. The Heath: again another Team that has added a lot of young lads in. really great to see. A notable omission from the match panel the last day is Evin Keane. anyone know why he is missing? without him I doubt they will have the forwards to beat some of the bigger teams.
12. Courtwood: again didn't see the O'Dempseys game but Niall dunne and Niall Donoher are two big losses to them.
13. Killeshin: looked a shadow of the team that was very impressive last year. their defense at times looked wide open. they need Attride back.
14. St. Josephs: for me the most disappointing performance in Round 1. I thought this year would have been ideal for them. with an experienced management set up and possible players returning from abroad. Dylan Doyle was abut their only forward the last day against a patched together Ballyroan team.
15/16. take your pick with the 2 Arles teams. Both look like they are waiting to be put out of their misery. they simply don't have the legs to compete with some of the younger teams anymore. Killeen's best defender Joe Mulhare was missing, anyone know if he will be back?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on August 27, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
The First round was really a mixed bag. some great games mixed in with some really poor standard, low intensity games.
I suppose that can be expected given the lack of preparation time teams have had. Id expect it to improve as the year goes on.
I think the Laoisgaa tv service deserves great credit. 5 euro is excellent value for money. if they were able to publish a weekly match programme that we could download it would be very welcomed.
On the structure discussion I agree now that we probably have too many senior teams. 2 or 3 teams are clearly getting cut adrift in my opinion which wasn't the case a few years ago. I like the look of that round 2 draw some nice looking games on paper.
I'll do me best to give a power ranking of where I see teams after round 1.

1. Portlaoise: no explanation necessary. on paper still the team to beat
2. O'Dempseys: move marginally ahead of Port after hammering Courtwood I think. 7-17 is a scoreline that few teams in Laois could post on their best days.
Didnt see the game.
3. Portarlington: Struggled over Stradbally, although conditions seemed appalling. If Colm Murphy is not fit to face Portlaoise I dont think they will have the firepower to down the town the next day. They have best strength in dept in the championship.
4. Graiguecullen: impressive display against what now looks like a weak Killeen team. rallied from a shaky start to completely dominate. Lee Timmons was excellent in attack. With Brian Byrne, Trevor Collins and Dicey back they have serious mobility.
No sign of Aaron Forbes on the match programme. any news on him. Big loss.
5. Emo: Beat Killeshin very comfortably. seem to have added a nice bunch of young lads into the team. could quite easily have had another bag full of scores the last day. be interesting to see if they can repeat that performance.
6. Ballyfin: looked nervy at the finish of their local derby against Rosenallis but they clung on. A nice balance to their team.
7. Ballyroan-Abbey: If you said to me before the game that Ballyroan would be without Tierney, Scott Conroy, McMahon and Marty Scully then I would have given them no chance. to their credit they dug it out and if they can add these 4 back into the group of impressive young lads they could surprise a few again.
8. Stradbally: The first of the first round losers in my opinion, id have them ahead of the heath. ran Portarlington close and have a few bodies back this year.
9. Ballylinan: gave Portlaoise a game, didn't get a chance to see it. I presume it was very defensive judging by the final score. still have the quality to make a run. looking forward to them vs Rosenallis.
10. Rosenallis: A young team that's full of running. a nightmare round 2 draw for them really. Regardless i cant see them getting into trouble this year and with the age profile of the team they will be senior for a good few years to come.
11. The Heath: again another Team that has added a lot of young lads in. really great to see. A notable omission from the match panel the last day is Evin Keane. anyone know why he is missing? without him I doubt they will have the forwards to beat some of the bigger teams.
12. Courtwood: again didn't see the O'Dempseys game but Niall dunne and Niall Donoher are two big losses to them.
13. Killeshin: looked a shadow of the team that was very impressive last year. their defense at times looked wide open. they need Attride back.
14. St. Josephs: for me the most disappointing performance in Round 1. I thought this year would have been ideal for them. with an experienced management set up and possible players returning from abroad. Dylan Doyle was abut their only forward the last day against a patched together Ballyroan team.
15/16. take your pick with the 2 Arles teams. Both look like they are waiting to be put out of their misery. they simply don't have the legs to compete with some of the younger teams anymore. Killeen's best defender Joe Mulhare was missing, anyone know if he will be back?
I'd have Josephs a bit higher, I think. Ahead of Courtwood and Killeshin.
On The Heath, yes, it was a good win but Arles Kilcruise are not a great benchmark. I'd have Port marginally ahead of their neighbours O'D's.
I didn't see Ballyfin v Rosenallis at all so I'm not sure where either of them stand.
Early round 2 predictions; Killeshin, Killeen, Josephs and Ballylinan to stay alive leaving Courtwood, Arles Kilcruise, Rosenallis and Stradbally to fight to avoid the drop.
Portlaoise, O'Dempseys, B Abbey and Graigue to go straight to q finals.
On Joe Mulhare, I believe he is not around this year.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on September 04, 2020, 10:23:54 PM
Emo excellent again last night. Nearly no weak links. Maybe the full back could be got at by a small, nippy forward. And possibly Langford and Gorman aren't that mobile. But I'm nit picking. Great, direct running through the middle. Owens is super when he's in the mood.
No one will fancy playing them in the quarter final. 
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 04, 2020, 10:31:29 PM
Fair play to them. Is Paul Lawlor the main man from a coaching point of view?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on September 05, 2020, 10:52:04 AM
Fair play to them. Is Paul Lawlor the main man from a coaching point of view?
I don't know tbh but John Strong is an excellent manager. Paul was player manager for the two previous years.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 05, 2020, 03:27:43 PM
Ah yes sorry, that was last year. They look well coached.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on September 05, 2020, 06:06:32 PM
The streaming service is excellent but a small criticism. I'm just watching Portarlington v Portlaoise at the moment and there's an analyst Aideen? Dunne who offers absolutely nothing. Zero insight. This isn't sexism either. If it was a man I'd say the same.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on September 05, 2020, 08:29:40 PM
We had chances to draw it but in fairness I think port deserved it Coffey and Murphy both injured for today Byrne only getting back fit and paddy o Sullivan to come back also,so they are definitely the team to beat this year ,, without Healy n Bruno we are nearer the chasing pack as ever ,port deserved winners,, joes were so lucky to beat Stradbally it might bring them on though it’s a win they badly needed ,,,ballylianin a good win for them on the back of a good performance too against portlaoise
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 05, 2020, 09:39:57 PM
I reckon that Portarlington and Portlaoise will meet again further down the line, possibly in the final. They are the two teams who have the  best squad depth in the county. It was more important for Portarlington that they got the win today and it will give them great belief going forward.

Portarlington and Portlaoise look like the two top teams, while the likes of Emo, Graiguecullen and O'Dempsey's will fancy their chances on any given day. It's a more open championship than it has been in years gone by, but the quality has dipped in line with Portlaoise's drop of standards.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: thegreeenandgold on September 05, 2020, 11:08:03 PM
The streaming service is excellent but a small criticism. I'm just watching Portarlington v Portlaoise at the moment and there's an analyst Aideen? Dunne who offers absolutely nothing. Zero insight. This isn't sexism either. If it was a man I'd say the same.

The stream is very good, Camera Work is decent.  Before I would start on stats,  the commentary bar Killian Whelan is poor.  Jack Nolan painful as he is would be a far better alternative.  They are charging €6 for the stream,  that's a fair price considering NOW TV charge a €10 for a Premier League match.  Leo Turley the other night was brutal, if I wanted a coaching session with Leo I would make it my business to attend one !    At the end of the day it’s year one but one way or the other this is part of the future going forward.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on September 06, 2020, 09:00:25 AM
The streaming service is excellent but a small criticism. I'm just watching Portarlington v Portlaoise at the moment and there's an analyst Aideen? Dunne who offers absolutely nothing. Zero insight. This isn't sexism either. If it was a man I'd say the same.

The stream is very good, Camera Work is decent.  Before I would start on stats,  the commentary is absolutely brutal no flow to it.  Jack Nolan painful as he is would be a far better alternative.  They are charging €6 for the stream,  that's a fair price considering NOW TV charge a €10 for a Premier League match.  Leo Turley the other night was brutal, if I wanted a coaching session with Leo I would make it my business to attend one !   
I thought Leo was grand! As was Eddie Kinsella yesterday. Killian Whelan is a very good commentator. Pat O'Sullivan isn't a natural but he tries hard.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Butch Cassidy on September 06, 2020, 09:21:23 AM
The streaming will have teething issues and it's a new world for the commentators but think they are improving week on week so need to cut them some slack. It's great to be able to watch the games.

On the Portlaoise game, I thought Dillon was brilliant and hope he answers the phone call that will come from Quirke. Looks like it's the end of the road for the Portlaoise dominance. Bruno is a huge loss and they dont have the calibre of player coming through to match the teams of previous years. In saying that it's up to Port and the other teams to finally step up.

Ports corner backs were very good, Byrne and David Murphy were inspirational at times when needed. Port were missing some key players but be hard to drop that young Murphy lad the next day, good problem for their manager! Port will learn a lot from yesterday, they managed the Portlaoise black card very badly but first win over Portlaoise in 19 years should give them the confidence going forward
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: thegreeenandgold on September 06, 2020, 09:24:42 AM
If you want to know what Leo would of done in that exact position every time yep his grand !  Pat's grand but when he is continuous like yesterday it's poor as it's done with best of intentions but their is no flow to it.  It's a paid for service the odd match with Pat is fine but they actually have gone downhill from Killian & Greg the first night.  Also Pat needs to stop calling people by their nickname not everyone knows who they are.   
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on September 06, 2020, 10:23:14 AM
Ill go ballyfin ,kilcruise,timahoe
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on September 06, 2020, 05:51:44 PM
Both Laois and Offaly were subjected to two weeks of lockdown in August. Yet, Offaly now know the four semi finalists in their football championship because hey had the sense to modify their championship. We in Laois, however, will not play the quarter finals of our championship before another month passes. It seems crazy to me. Like Offaly, we should have modified our championship.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 06, 2020, 08:57:15 PM
Depends for whose benefit Chrimtain?

In reality both Laois & Offaly are probably going to have fairly short seasons at InterCounty level. What exactly would we be rushing the club champ for?
Better weather or better pitches or being able to play in daylight in OMP. All fair enough reasons.
If the reason is to allow the InterCounty preparations kick in earlier then I don’t agree.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 06, 2020, 08:59:16 PM
Sound decent enough scores put up over the weekend. Good signs in fairness that a decent style is being played. Or am I being naive?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: BallyroanAbu on September 06, 2020, 09:49:39 PM
Both Laois and Offaly were subjected to two weeks of lockdown in August. Yet, Offaly now know the four semi finalists in their football championship because hey had the sense to modify their championship. We in Laois, however, will not play the quarter finals of our championship before another month passes. It seems crazy to me. Like Offaly, we should have modified our championship.

I enjoy the club stuff
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on September 07, 2020, 10:44:46 PM
Looking at the games over the weekend it’s hard to see past Port winning the championship. Missing Colm Murphy , Ronan Coffey , Paddy O Sullivan and Diarmuid Bennett and still managed to beat Portlaoise . When I seen Murphy and Coffey weren’t on the teamsheet I thought they would really struggle to score and portlaoise would beat them no problem , but they proved me wrong . They were strong defensively and had pace to break out . When the 4 lads come back there is no doubt in my mind they will get over the line this year . As for portlaoise it’s the end of their era of dominance for sure . They are a shadow of them old selves and the well seems to have dried up with quality youngsters coming through .The portlaoise intermediates seem to be really struggling too . They will badly miss Bruno this year . But I suppose all good things have to come to an end , a bit like the current Barcelona soccer team actually . Portlaoise and St Joseph’s should be an interesting game the next day .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Silkyskillssunshinee on September 07, 2020, 10:50:54 PM
Not sure I'd be writing off Portlaoise just yet. They're not the dominant force they once were, but they still have enough experience within their ranks that know how to get over the line. Brian Glynn should be back for the Joseph's game, and maybe Cahillane or Healy will make a return yet.

Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 08, 2020, 12:11:52 AM
Is Healy injured??
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Helix. on September 08, 2020, 09:24:36 AM
Is Healy injured??

Gone back to London teaching I imagine.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on September 08, 2020, 10:49:31 AM
Is Healy injured??

Gone back to London teaching I imagine.

The problem for Healy is he has to isolate for 14 days if he comes back from the UK. So it won't be happening.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Butch Cassidy on September 14, 2020, 07:19:46 PM
Any new names called into the senior setup on the back of the club championship?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on September 15, 2020, 11:45:13 AM
Paul Lawlor , Bruno McCormack, Mickey Lawlor, Podge Conway , Jason Enright, Paul Gilly McDonlald, Chris Conway , Michael Hand, Barney Maher
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: town1980 on September 15, 2020, 04:13:36 PM
the heath
ballyroan
o dempseys
portlaoise

strad
roseanalis 
all the teams to win this weekend i will more than likely call a few wrong
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Helix. on September 19, 2020, 08:27:54 AM
Courtwood finding senior championship tough to crack. Granted it is hard to win with 13 players against Rosenallis who look physically decent side. Whether they will sustain it as a dual senior club remains to be seen.
You’d imagine Arles Kilcruise will finally drop down from senior ranks. Can’t see them beating Stradbally today in OMP.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on September 20, 2020, 04:22:46 PM
Lord Jaysus, I appreciate the service Laois TV provides but really it's ridiculous how bad the commentary on the O'Dempseys v Killeshin game was. A television commentary should be very different from a radio commentary. We can see what's happening so you don't need to do a play by play description. The less said about the use of nicknames and first names the better.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: High Fielder on September 20, 2020, 06:46:42 PM
I'd be more worried about the standard of football on show. Just awful. Some of the teams playing today looked like they were put together off the street. No plan. Basic execution of skills lacking; and very hard to watch. Thankfully I didn't pay a penny courtesy of a generous friend.

And despite the size of the main stand, what's with the supporters huddled together? Makes a mockery of the whole situation imo
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 20, 2020, 06:55:41 PM
Laois SFC Quarter-finals

Ballyfin v The Heath
Emo v Portlaoise
Graiguecullen v Ballylinan
Portarlington v O’Dempseys
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Helix. on September 20, 2020, 08:24:53 PM
Laois SFC Quarter-finals

Ballyfin v The Heath
Emo v Portlaoise
Graiguecullen v Ballylinan
Portarlington v O’Dempseys

Few decent games won’t be much in them. Best possible draw for Ballyfin and The Heath drawing each other.
O’Dempseys will have it hard without Robbie Kehoe the next day. Each games should be decent.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on September 20, 2020, 08:58:40 PM
Emo v Portlaoise will be an interesting one and with the form Gary Walsh is showing over the last two games his duel with Mark Timmons will also be one to watch..
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: on the hop on September 21, 2020, 11:18:32 AM
Big chance for emo, especially if they continue using the pace in their team. Hard to know where Portlaoise are. Still hard to beat and score against but still finding it hard to score in the absence of Bruno. While taking into account the massed defense Joseph’s employed and the frees and marks scored, still only one of the starting forwards scored from play. The strong bench gave them a kick near the end but at times they seemed obsessed with keeping the ball and crabbing over and back across the field which allowed Joseph’s back into positions. Bar Gareth Dillon, I don’t think too many others drove forward to commit Joseph’s. Second time I saw Joseph’s and hard to know where they are at. They employed a fairly strict  game plan doubling up on both wings and forcing Portlaoise to play out the field. Must have been frustrating for their supporters especially when they cut loose at the end and caused all sorts of bother with their pace. Josh o brien is an excellent target man and one for the future.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on September 21, 2020, 11:43:30 AM
Didn’t see yesterday’s game, but would it be fair to say that Joseph’s seem to have almost decided as a club to go with this type of game plan? It seems to have transcended a few different management teams?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: redsetanta on September 21, 2020, 12:13:10 PM
Despite underage success Josephs have been fairly poor the last few seasons at senior level. Locally they would have the tradition and consider themselves top dog etc but in recent times the likes of Kilcruise, Kileen and Ballylinan have performed much better in the championship. When was the last time Josephs made a serious challenge?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on September 21, 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Anyone know what the situation is with Colm Murphy , Ronan Coffey , Paddy OSullivan and Diarmuid Bennett from portarlington? Can’t see them going all the way without those four .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: The PRO on September 24, 2020, 09:56:07 AM
Laois SFC Quarter-finals

Ballyfin v The Heath
Emo v Portlaoise
Graiguecullen v Ballylinan
Portarlington v O’Dempseys

I think it's a very good quarter final draw. Both The Heath and Ballyfin won't have minded drawing one another one bit. Graigue and Ballylinan is not quite a derby but nearly and it will be interesting to see if Lillis can manage to get Ballylinan back to another semi final.
Emo v Portlaoise should be a decent game and despite the obituaries surrounding Portlaoise, they are still there and will be hard to beat.
Port and O'Dempseys is the one I'm most looking forward to. Port seem to have a huge crop of young talented players but I do think O'Dempseys will make it difficult for them.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Helix. on October 01, 2020, 09:38:26 PM
Arles Kilcruise relegated tonight 0:11 0:09. End of an era for them at senior for a while. You’d wonder what it will take to have them senior again: be it on their own or joining like juveniles na fianna og.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Hospital Pass on October 01, 2020, 11:42:25 PM
Delighted for Courtwood, odd year for them with so many players missing. Not that I have anything against Kilcruise but their race is run and from a senior championship perspective I think Courtwood will be stronger next year.
Seen a post on the Courtwood facebook page about the 1999 Intermediate final. went a had a look. Kilcruise actually had a number of players playing this evening that played in that final. Remarkable really.
Arles  Team in the 1999 final - E.Kelly, E.Mulhall, J.Conway, J.Wall, JP.Conway, P.Conway, M.Mooney, G.Harkins, N.Kelly, C.Conway, L.Wall, B.Conway, JM.McDonald, K.Kealy,E.Mooney, subs R.Munnelly, A.McElroy, K.Kealy, E.Warren, A.Hughes, T.Wall, F.Tully, M.Munnelly, J.Condron, M.O Shea

Whos the oldest player in this years Senior Championship is it Chris Conway? I reckon he's at least 43. some servant.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on October 02, 2020, 10:58:03 AM
Streamed it last night too.

Father Time eventually just got to Arles. It wasn't in their legs anymore. They gave it everything but the bit of luck possibly went with Courtwood on the night.

Feel for lads like Chris, JP, Ross, Davy and Digger. Have given a lot to club and county for a long time. Hard to see them bounce back quickly but one thing I'd say is never write them off.

Don't know what to make of Courtwood. Missing a lot of players to be fair. 6 to 8 starters apparently. Hope they can get some of them back for next year and build on the crop of young lads they seem to have. Donoher was outstanding. Absolutely ran the show. Still a class act at 34.

Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: redsetanta on October 02, 2020, 12:25:36 PM
Arles have a decent amount of young lads in the 12 to 14 age bracket at the moment with a few more younger still. Basically the next generation. Sons of current and former players so it's be a while before any of them are making an impact at senior.

The underage group are doing well though so the signs are not bad. The life of a small rural club.

At least this team went the whole way and can look back at the senior win as well as their final appearances against an all powerful Portlaoise team. With a bit of luck they might have won another one. Plenty of teams in Laois who haven't managed that.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on October 03, 2020, 12:03:56 PM
Arles have a decent amount of young lads in the 12 to 14 age bracket at the moment with a few more younger still. Basically the next generation. Sons of current and former players so it's be a while before any of them are making an impact at senior.

The underage group are doing well though so the signs are not bad. The life of a small rural club.

At least this team went the whole way and can look back at the senior win as well as their final appearances against an all powerful Portlaoise team. With a bit of luck they might have won another one. Plenty of teams in Laois who haven't managed that.
Good to hear Arles have a few young lads coming through. It's been too long since they produced a decent crop. I'm sure there are a few young Conways and Walls!
And you're right. They will always have 2003 which a lot of other clubs don't.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 08:07:45 AM
Sean Moore for Laois?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Heshs Umpire on October 04, 2020, 08:45:23 AM
Sean Moore for Laois?
I've always thought Laois should be using him. This stuff about him being too light is rubbish. He is a class player and I'd love to see him playing off Evan O'Carroll. He's well able to win his own ball too.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 04:54:50 PM
While our neighbours, who were also in lockdown, are playing their senior finals, we are only playing our quarter finals today and we have no idea when our semi finals will be played. A farce! Will we have our county final by Christmas?

Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 04, 2020, 06:25:31 PM
No semi final draw for a month? That’s absolutely ridiculous. How did the clubs allow that to happen? Very disrespectful towards the SFC all round.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 06:33:47 PM
No semi final draw for a month? That’s absolutely ridiculous. How did the clubs allow that to happen? Very disrespectful towards the SFC all round.

I swear it would only happen in Laois
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 06:37:21 PM
Why not play SFC semis next weekend?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 04, 2020, 06:39:12 PM
If ever there was a cause for 4 clubs to unite and go to war with the board. Publically if necessary, I’m sure the likes of Midlands 103 would love a story like that to run with.
And I don’t say any of that lightly, I’d believe in things being settled rationally, by consensus and in house as a rule.
How the hell can you use the next 4 weeks properly to prepare when you don’t know what you are preparing for?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Countyminor on October 04, 2020, 06:39:40 PM
Portlaoise out at the quarter final stage. Unprecedented really, but very much in tune with their constant, agonisingly pitiful decline over the past while. Nobody seems to give a damn in the town anymore. Awful championship overall but at least we'll have a drought ended to bring this clusterf**k of a year to an end. Something very tangible on the line for every team left.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: steven seagal on October 04, 2020, 06:42:47 PM
Problem now for Quirke is convincing lads from Port, Graigue, Emo and Ballyfin to come onto county squad. They all have their best chance in recent memory of winning an SFC, not likely to win anything with Laois, so why take the risk of getting injured or not preparing with the club.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 04, 2020, 06:45:32 PM
Correct Steven, but a problem of the boards own making.
The championship could have been wrapped up this weekend or next without the need for huge imagination .
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 07:39:19 PM
Each of the four teams that won today must believe that they can win the championship this year and should be excited by that prospect. But that excitement must be dulled by the fact that they have no idea when the semi finals, never mind the final, will be played. They now face the prospect of training in the wet, cold and dark unable to plan for prospective opponents. It's crazy. Laois county board should make the draw now and play off the championship quickly.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: oneflewoverthecuckoonest on October 04, 2020, 08:23:21 PM
It is indeed a complete farce regarding the schedule for the remainder of the senior football championship.
We were in lockdown at the same time as OY and KE, yet they finished their championships in Football this weekend.
Of course, Laois county board instead of opting for a different format, continued with the convoluted system and now in early October, we find ourselves with two rounds remaining.
If memory serves, when  Arles Kilcruise won the championship in Laois, did they not play the following day in the Leinster Club?.

Given the rising Covid numbers, there has to be a possibility of a second national lockdown, and such an occurrence  may kill all gaa action for the rest of the year.
I feel sorry for the 4 clubs, they should play  the semis next weekend, Friday night and Saturday if needs be, and then have the final on Saturday week.

With a likely short lived effort in the Leinster Championship for the county footballers, if you were a current county panellist from one of the four clubs, the temptation must be to drop off the county panel and focus on the club, if the November date for the semi finals is an immovable object(Covid permitting).



Here is a simple question.....if you were told that the virus is spreading too dangerously and a nationwide lockdown is imminent, by the end of this month......if you were from one of the 4 clubs.....would you be happy to play the semi finals and final inside the next 14 days, or opt to wait until next March or April to complete the championship?.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 04, 2020, 09:29:12 PM
Looking at Kildare and Offaly, the championship could have been finished today. Given tonight's news, will it ever be played? If not, it would be a huge shame for the four teams left.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 04, 2020, 09:36:03 PM
I don’t think there’s a huge amount wrong with the structure (except for the number of teams in the championship!!). It’s inexplicable that they kept the huge breaks between rounds.
Complications coming!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Downtheroad on October 04, 2020, 11:59:52 PM
 
We are a dual county with dual clubs such as Portlaoise who are due to play a Premier intermediate hurling final next week. While their exit today makes it easier to bring the games forward, that could only be decided after the match today.  Kildare don't give a dam about hurling while Offaly have a round less.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 05, 2020, 12:06:30 AM
I don’t have all of the dates etc to hand and it’s a bit late in the evening to go compiling them all from Laoisgaa.ie, but notwithstanding the lockdown there were indeed extended breaks between rounds when there was no need.
I disagreed with Eddie Brennan wanting the hurling championship ran off ASAP (he didn’t quite say that), but this is the other end of the extreme!
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Uisce on October 05, 2020, 08:52:37 AM
Surely the CB will bring it forward now? Extremely unfair on the clubs involved. Obviously a decision needs to be made asap, I really hope they see sense.

Any reason why the draw was not made yesterday?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Zooming around on October 05, 2020, 11:32:22 AM
Surely the CB will bring it forward now? Extremely unfair on the clubs involved. Obviously a decision needs to be made asap, I really hope they see sense.

Any reason why the draw was not made yesterday?


Don't ever put those words together.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: redsetanta on October 05, 2020, 01:47:59 PM
Well it won't be finishing until 2021 with todays decision.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Chrimtain on October 05, 2020, 02:07:53 PM
Both Laois and Offaly were subjected to two weeks of lockdown in August. Yet, Offaly now know the four semi finalists in their football championship because hey had the sense to modify their championship. We in Laois, however, will not play the quarter finals of our championship before another month passes. It seems crazy to me. Like Offaly, we should have modified our championship.

In a year when we could have had new or novel county SF champions, e.g. Emo, Ballyfin or Graiguecullen, it looks like our championship won't be completed until the new year at least and, in my opinion, the blame lies squarely with Laois CB. Why, like all other counties, did they not take the opportunity to introduce a once-off knock out tournament when the problems were there for all to see back in the summer? The four remaining clubs must be sickened and disillusioned.

These clubs will suffer due to the short sighted planning of our clueless CB. Our county teams will suffer too.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laois Rising on October 05, 2020, 02:28:17 PM
Agree the championship should have been played as a straight knock out from the beginning-madness to have done otherwise, especially when Laois continue to want to have 16 senior teams in the championship for a county as small as we are. Furthermore, we are also a duel county so even crazier to expect to run both championships to completion in the timeline provided.

Teams beaten in first round of championship would still have got a second day out looking to preserve their senior status so minimum of two games for everyone. In the end, none of the teams that came through the backdoor made the semi finals so probably would have ended up with similar last four with a straight knock out. Had we had straight knock out championship the weekend gone could have been county final day in both hurling and football.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 06, 2020, 05:24:22 PM
I’ve looked at all the championship matches on the very good livestream service so far . Been a pretty poor standard championship with portlaoise now well and truly back with the pack . Not too many new players have stood out that deserve a chance but heres my opinion on who maybe deserves a look at that isn’t currently involved ,

Will Young , Eoin Dunne, Fiachra C Fennell, Sean Moore, James Finn, David Connolly , James Moore, Padraig Kirwan ,Finbar Crowley, Jack Owens ( the Emo one ) , Adam Ryan , Jason Moore, Ronan Coffey , Danny Lutrell , Garry Comerford, Eoin Buggie , Dylan Doyle , Seamus Lacey , Mark McDermott , David McDermott , Shane Bolger, Michael Doran, Evan Lowry , Ross Hennessy ,Danny Bolger, Gary Saunders , Benny Carroll , Cormac Murphy

Not a whole lot to work with but it is very hard to pick out players up to standard.
 
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 06, 2020, 05:58:19 PM
Great county for player welfare is Laois. Saying it this yonks. Unfortunately, because we love our format so much, we play irrelevant football for four fifths of the year, and unless you're in with the county, you're unfit and incapable of making the step up. Our format is fundamentally flawed and panders to club players too much. Covid has highlighted structural flaws, but our two month Championship is based on Laois never being successful or us playing our Championship in a fortnight because we were. Either way it's a mess.

And for what it's worth, I see no reason why football and hurling can't be played on the same weekend with a bit of planning. Jesus in other counties it's been known to play two matches in one day. Not in Laois though....
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on October 06, 2020, 07:28:54 PM
And for what it's worth, I see no reason why football and hurling can't be played on the same weekend with a bit of planning. Jesus in other counties it's been known to play two matches in one day. Not in Laois though....

Maybe lads have a life and interests outside of GAA, you say Laois provide player welfare like its a bad thing, ask the majority of the players and they will tell you they like the system as is
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 06, 2020, 08:30:58 PM
And that right there is why Laois will never amount to anything. I couldn't give a monkeys either way. It just seems to me that most counties have a different culture to ours. In successful counties, the GAA is your life and you accept that. It's not for everyone and it certainly isn't for us. But we can't have our cake and eat it. If we want a player friendly championship, we can't also expect club football to be a vibrant breeding ground for good players. Look at Sean Moore. Prime example. Fucked out and left out for years. No development. Just left to waste despite being one of the best forwards in the county. Wasn't he sent back to his club to "develop". FFS come on.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Ballyroan Abbey on October 06, 2020, 10:09:07 PM
So your argument is that lads should be treated worse by the fixtures comittees and dedicate their entire lives to Football, an amateur sport and have no social life or experience of the real world to appease the likes of yourself?

I'd rather see lads do what they want to do and enjoy their Football or Hurling while having a life than putting every waking moment and decision to it and hating it, and in the end getting nothing for it
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Keyser Söze on October 06, 2020, 10:19:55 PM
Major extremes there HF, and while I don’t agree with what you are saying, looking back I don’t see why we had full one code only weeks given the year that was in it.
Some sort of rolling schedule where teams played every 10 days or so (with at least one midweek fixture) surely should have been looked at.
Maybe it’s all easy say in retrospect.
I don’t get the connection you are trying to make between the format and player’s commitment levels? Surely the football format (where you have no idea who you are facing in the next round and must win to activate a safety net) is better than a group format where you know 3 months in advance which games will be tough & which will be less of a battle?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 07, 2020, 12:20:24 AM
I see portarlington haven’t conceded a goal yet in the championship . Has a team ever went a full campaign without conceding a goal ???
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 07, 2020, 07:44:54 AM
Lads it's pointless debating with you. If you like the format you have to accept when it fails, which it has done now. We insist on playing league football without Championship all the way up to August, thereby giving Club footballers all the freedom they want, which BA seems happy with. I would want the same for everyone too in an ideal world, but that's not happening in successful counties. Their attitude is far more professional in its outlook. We're not winning anything and they are. We won't be winning anything of note any time soon. Basically the standards are deteriorating year on year but sure it's grand; our players get 2 weeks between matches, they have no problems booking holidays and there is no pressure to get fit until May/June. Why doesn't everyone do like us? We're f**king revolutionaries. Oh wait a minute. We win nothing. Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: High Fielder on October 07, 2020, 08:02:13 AM
Major extremes there HF, and while I don’t agree with what you are saying, looking back I don’t see why we had full one code only weeks given the year that was in it.
Some sort of rolling schedule where teams played every 10 days or so (with at least one midweek fixture) surely should have been looked at.
Maybe it’s all easy say in retrospect.
I don’t get the connection you are trying to make between the format and player’s commitment levels? Surely the football format (where you have no idea who you are facing in the next round and must win to activate a safety net) is better than a group format where you know 3 months in advance which games will be tough & which will be less of a battle?

You've seen league football in Laois, right? It's like watching pub league soccer imo. You just have to be playing a couple of rounds of Championship football in April/May. How else can lads be expected to take their sport seriously? Listen don't get me wrong. I love our format and all debating aside, I think it's perfect for amateur sport. But I also have no doubt that it's a major contributor to our declining standards.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Laoiseabu on October 09, 2020, 11:07:33 AM
Anyone know why Aaron Forbes and Ambrose Doran haven’t made an appearance for Graigue yet ?
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: SCFC on October 09, 2020, 11:39:27 AM
Major extremes there HF, and while I don’t agree with what you are saying, looking back I don’t see why we had full one code only weeks given the year that was in it.
Some sort of rolling schedule where teams played every 10 days or so (with at least one midweek fixture) surely should have been looked at.
Maybe it’s all easy say in retrospect.
I don’t get the connection you are trying to make between the format and player’s commitment levels? Surely the football format (where you have no idea who you are facing in the next round and must win to activate a safety net) is better than a group format where you know 3 months in advance which games will be tough & which will be less of a battle?

You've seen league football in Laois, right? It's like watching pub league soccer imo. You just have to be playing a couple of rounds of Championship football in April/May. How else can lads be expected to take their sport seriously? Listen don't get me wrong. I love our format and all debating aside, I think it's perfect for amateur sport. But I also have no doubt that it's a major contributor to our declining standards.

I get your frustration but "a couple of rounds of championship in April/May"? Seriously? That's like the set up was 25 years ago when I was playing. A championship game in April, maybe another in May (colleges exams time remember). And then back to the league or challenge games for June, July, maybe August if Laois get a run going! Managers don't want to have to get lads match primed for two different sets of games three months apart. Next door in Offaly they play championship games in April and there's nothing only giving out about it. I'm not saying I have the answer but I don't think a split season for championship is practical.
Title: Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2020
Post by: Junior Ex Laoistalk on October 09, 2020, 12:37:17 PM
Anyone know why Aaron Forbes and Ambrose Doran haven’t made an appearance for Graigue yet ?

Not sure about Forbes but Doran was out with an injury. He was down to start last day but seemingly tweaked something just before the start of the game. Should be ok for the semi if it ever goes ahead..